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>> what is the best way to secure america? tom ridge upset a terrorist threat, his tenure as first head homeland security and what led to his resignation, part of a three day book tv weekend tonight on c-span2. >> university of colorado graduate and award winning journalist dave cullen provides a comprehensive account of t shootings at columbine. this is 45 minutes. >> dave cullen, who are eric harris and dylan klebold? >> the two killers at columbine. eric harris was a psychopath and dylan klebold was not. they were completely different people. i spent the 10 years onhis book and i get asked most often, y did they do it? it took me a year to figure out that that is the wrong question, at least in the wrong dirtion.
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there is why eric harris did it and dylan klebold, they are completely different people. eric harris was a psychopath, classic. he is the mastermind of the plot. he spent a couple years trying to figure out how he could desty the entire world. that was the real fantasy. white out humanity. always believed three fouor five people, for a psychopath, the power of life as well as ath, makes a more powerful, a god, give life, take it away. not delusional enough to think they are god but they are as important as god. the key thing with a psychopath is no compassion, no empathy, no regard for the welfare of others or anything. to decrease their non-violent because it is just about meeting
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their own needs. ponzi schemes, con men, crooked politicians, you might be able to think of a few that come to mind, that is classic psychopath, someone who would destroy other people's les for thmost trivial gain on their own part. that ia psychopath, to the green on violent but when a person has aadistic streak too, you typically get ted bundy, jeffrey dahmer or eric harris. that is where this comes from. dylan klebold is completely different. polar opposite personality. he went along with the plan, but was not driving it. when you look at their journa, eric harris's journals filled with hate, the opening line is i hate the fingworld, hate everything.
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hetarted wanting to kill a ended up killing in the course of the year. with dylan klebold it is completely different. he spent two years wring his jonal, at his word is law. completely unexpected. dylan klebold of the revelation. he was a lovin sensiti boy with a lot of anr, but his anger was directed in word. it is anger at himself for being such a loser, such an outcast, it was objectively and true but that is how he saw it. dylan klebold tried hard loving the world and felt the world wasn't loving himack. gradually, a very slow evolution, he was aggressive, diagnoseas -- that doesn't tell you enough. the interesting thing is watching for two yearshe looks like he would never ki, and to
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the influence of eric harris, turned the anger that is turned inward, the rest of the world. instead of blaming me, blaming all the rest of you people who did this to me, i will take you with me and show you the way out. dylan klebold committed suicide the to the lot of people with him. >> in your book, "columbine," you write dylan klebold analyze, the constructed, he was 15, he tagged ang on the mission, he was eric harris's number one go to g and none that matters. >> the missions were really early symptom of something going awry. their sophomore year, eric harris and dylan klebold, they were just cranks, but eric harris called emissions beause his grandiose about everything, a big thing where we are showing people how great we are,
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shooting off firecrackers, busting windows, then they get nastier like super glueing mailboxes shot and so forth. what is interesting to me about the mission's is easy a progression with eric harris going from petty vandal to pc if to felony theft to murder. he did not start a mass murderer. he had his gradual criminal progression. you had to know something about columbine, he would have become a career criminal of some sort. he had sadistic streak. he wanted to kill people for the simple reason, his own aggrandizement and because he enjoyed it. he wanted to have fun. he wanted to show off. understanding a psychopath doesn't take a lot to understand, a fairly simple complex. it is hard to believe but it is true, that somebody will kill
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someone, hwanted to kill hundreds of people, but will do that for theost pet gain for himself. that was enough. >> deegan 20, 1999, the columbine massacre. eric harris started planning this in 1997. >> yes. how did he discover that? jefferson county release the thousand pages of writings of the killers, they left the journal, school assignments, eric harris wrote on his web site about what he wanted to do and they made video tapes explaining themselves but that wasn't enough. th fbi agent on the case deserves a major character in the book, underlining the impact the story, he said -- >> what ihis name? >> a special agent.
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who -- the famous psychologist, happened to be on the case. he said in his attire fbi career he had never seen a killer who died leaving this much material explning himself. we have an extraordinary amount of information together. i spent the last several years digging through all of this information and talking with various psychiatrists and psychologists to understand them. it is very clear cut once you get through the information, hard to make out their handwriting, took awhile to decipher what they wer doing but once you understand their psychological condition it is a lot easier to undetand them too. you have to understand what a psychopath is to understand, very classic pattern. >> did wayne and katyrris
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recognize that eric was trouble? >> he got in trouble, they had no idea the extent of trouble. almostobody recognizes a psychopath. think about somebody like hannibal lector, a hollywood version. your the last o to know, the first classic book on psychology, the mask of sanity, the total lack of empathy. more important characteristics, the ability to disguise the lac of empathy, psychopaths are the people we turn to to trust, a bankruptcy court or divorce
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court. he had gotten trouble some time a psychiatrist put them on the loft. when you want to throw out another idea, for people to consider, eri was gobbling up shakespeare, writing papers on keen lehr and macbeth, euripides, he would write the most amazing apologs. you have a kid whoct up, gets in trouble and when he explained himself he quotes shakespeare when he is talking to -- he
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learnea similar thing, you give a kid like that a lot of latitude, you have a brilliant kid tseems to be doing really well, sometimes gets in trouble and act out, they knew they had a problem cld but what parent thinks he act out sometimes, i wonder if he is considering mass murder? >> did dylan klebold ask paren recognize anything? >> they knew he was deprsed. they had no idea how bad it was, that it washat extreme. they didn't know he wac suicidal. he talked for two years about suicide. they assumed they had a shy kid who had been painfully shy. when he wento high school he felt like a fish out of water. he had been in the gifted program in high school, they spent years, a small cluster of kids where it is cool to be a brain but he went to high school in -- he felt awkward, he didn't
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talk to people right away, he got to know them. they knew he w struggling but they had no idea, a lot of teenage ki, that was a scary thing about columbine, dylan klebold was such a typical high-school kid. a kid le that who ets involved with eric harris, that happens in any icicle in america. >> you wrote in your book that eric harris was typical, at a lot of girlfriends, he was smart, he had friends. >> he led a typical life b psychopaths lead a double life. what is going on on the inside, they're planning on ripping you off for planning to kill you, they lead a life as their cover, it is what they need to do, ted bundy was working on the texas hot line helping icide people. he wasn't interested in helping other people but that is what
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they do. he was feigning a normal life and buildi his cover. very dferent this going on. >> who ikathy furnall@? >> the christian martyr who said she believed in god. it became one of the biggest stories frmm columbine, the biggest redemption story. there are a lot of great redemption stories in columbine. i tried to go through a lot of them in the book, very uplifting thgs. that particular one didn't happen, it was misunderstanding. the story went tt she was hiding under a table and the killer came up, asked if she believed in god at gunpoint, she said yes and waskilled. it became this huge christian martyr worldwide. there was a following of her. it turned out there were two girls, what happed with her is she was hing underneath a table prang for her life, eric walked up to the table, said e
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peab peekaboo, put theose of the shotn under the table and shot her, she died instantly, never had a chance to say anything, terribly tragic. another part of the library of second girldylan klebold shot so people with a shotgun and she was hit by the blast, pellets up andown her body, bleeding, crawling away. dylan klebold kenna crosser and started talking her, asked if she believed ingod, s said yes. the a her why and they talked about it, then he got distracted by something eric harris was doing, he didn't care who lived or died, he let her go. she lived to tel. that is an uplifng story, a girl w is asked if she believes in god professes her faith and live there was another boy under o of the tles who overheard this, didn't know either of them
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and somehow mistakenly thought it was caddy who said it, started telling people, an honest mistake, the story spre, and reporters never did their job of checking in and asking grieving victims, how wellid you know her? did you recognize her voice? those tough questions. we ran with the story and it became a big myth. speaking of myths, there was a headline in the denver post two days after, this was the actual denver post that day, healing begins, april 27, 1999. why is this a miss in your view? >> who -- they regretted, everyone involved in columbine regrets, one piece of advice to future communities, don't rush the view, when you talk to any
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mental health worker or any pastor who has done a funeral's, it takes months and years for people to deal with their grf. we tried rushing that intuit, a day and half, you now, a couple weeks and back on this. many of the peoplreally didn't start understanding their own grief until a year or more t. crisis gup was brought in to the high-scho. trying to take a grieving person a day and half after, start geing better now, the are no ready to get tter. you need to back off and give them space bause they felt terribly rushed, they felt bitter and resentful f yrs because of that. how did you approacthe writing of this book?
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>> it took me several tries. my first stab at a book a year after columbine, goi to be a small book, i approached it that way, at that time, based on the killers and also on rattling the myths, there were so many myths, most of what we think we know about columbine is wrong, the basic thinabout them starting as jocksven being a school shooting, i was trying to unravel both myths and i wrote the first draf trying to unravel this and figure out what happened. the story of what really happened in columbine. i was trying to understand the killers better, really understand what happened. the story just wasn't ready. it was really to leave your -- a five year point that i decided we have the fbi team for the first time diagnose a killer and i startedr at that point and
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realize i wanted two stories, the story of the killers, how they evolve as killers, such a gradual process, interesting to see how they developed and i wanted to do the after story, e victims, the survivors, what these killers did to them. i into cuthapterso get both stories simultaneously but i wrote them separately. i wrote all of eric harris's story of a five months, dyla klebols story after near the fiveonthly death threat was done with eric harris college it would read s journal,isten to mic he listened to, watch the films he liked, a nurse myself in his world, write about him, talk to a psychiatrist abouhim, trying to work out puzzle i didn't understan about him, complete eric harris immersion in five months, the same thing with dylan klebold.
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i actually got depressed riding the dylan klebold story. kept channeling his personality. i wasn't able to convey dylan klebold's depression and loneliness until i got that way myself. what i tried to do was not sit here saying you are in charity, i tried to turn the camera around and be inside you and project what the world looked like to you, what you were seeing, what you were feeling, present each of the killers and the other charactersf this book as if from the side. that is what i intended to do. >> youay you got depressed when writing about dylan klebold. how serious? >> not serious. that wasn't actually the word -- the more serious was writing
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about the victims. i had secondary posttraumic stress disorder, which medical workers -- dealing with tragedy, i had that in the first year and i thought i was fine with . i got a relapse 7-1/2 years in when i wrote two of the most difficult chapters, i wrote the chter about bleeding to death for three hours, that was the hardest by far, the hero a teacher who ed. and bled to death tragically. one of the main chacters in the book. there's a lot of uplifting stuff in the book @ut that was the hardest to right, and unexpectedly, the chapter about dylan klebold's funeral and his parents and their grief hit me. ortly after tt, there were copycashoothngs, in ten days, the amish shooting in
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nnsylvania and very close to columbine in colorado, and i couldn't take that for a month. i couldn't work, in pretty bad shape. but it helped to have studied posttraumatic stress disder for the book and understand it. i was still naive about my situation and got help, and it helpedhat i spent time with the world's foremost authorities, dr. rice spent a lot of time with was othe committee that created the diagnosis about 30 years ago, one of the world's leading authorities. i had gotten to know him, he
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kicked -- took me through it. i had been going to a psychologist myself but frank really helped me. he was an expert on columbine, had been through it. he understood me, got me through it. therwere a couple dark days. i love writing, i don't wt to complain about my job. i love what i do. >> talk to was a little bit about some of the survivors, the victims's families. >> they ar all across the map. something that wanted to dispel was the idea of the universal viim, the unirsal response. one of the thing that bothers me, with allue respect to victims, whenever i see wh there is a plane crash thagets a lot of news corage, when they are interviewing victim a person on the plane, frequently they slipped into the second person and they will start
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saying when you fir hear the flood you panic and start doing this, we have inrnalized this idea that there is a universal response. now that i have beenhrough this i wouldn't s this as a person, on the plane, i start thinking that that tre's somebody behind you who didn't panic at all, was thinking logically, someone who fought this is kind of exciting, everybody looks at things completely differently. with a tragedy like this, columbine, responses were all over the math. i have ten major characters to follow through this, a boy girl,adult, people who were injured, people who died, people with diffent kinds of response an angry dad got very angry, linda randers was the widow of da sanders, really fell apart, dave sanders -- she was put in a
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world oil situation and without the person who supported her. the family with an amazing upliftg experience of having a daughter they thought was a martyr, writing a book about it and getting tremendous ratification from that and having that pull out from under them. patrick ireland, the boy in the ndow who went out the window on live tv, millions of people saw him tumble out of the second story window, he hadhrapnel in his body, d an amazing recovery and forgave the killers in the first week or two, extraordinary. people were allver the map in how they dealt with their grief,
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how painful it was, the principal lead the kids out of this. frank deangelo. this person deals like this. this person like this, this one here, you get different facets of this, these people had an interesting personality and a fainating story. i also wanted to make it interesting for the reader. i didn't want this to be a book, you read abo columbine to learn sething, i wanted it to be an engrossing tale and luckily for me as a journalist and a writer, thousands of people were invved in this story. many thousands of people re involved in different ways. i snatched out ten of the most interesting people who had fascinating experiences that were different from onanother, to try to give you the whole story of columbine. >> did the victims and survivors
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and victims's families and their survivors wilingly talk with you about -- while you were riding with -- >> most of them talked to me. i selected a handful. i had met nearly all of them at different points along the way for different rsons. some early on were resistant to talking, some were more open. overtime, they had their own reasons, there was a huge controversy over the library whereost of the killings took place. the families of the 13 dead wanted that library torn down so no one would set foot in it again. they did ithrough a pre conference and other meetings with the press where we got to meet them. overtime, there were oer stories. i got to meet them through various means along the way and once i selected a different people i was going to focus on,
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all themccept for the bernard family, agreed to partipate. her m had written a memoir with a great deal of information, a journalist who had been close to th actually gave me her field notes which really helped, she spent a lot of into that hours with them, i talk to friends, the few characters not willing to participate, there w a great deal to draw from. for the most part as the law of time with them personally. >> our most of the families in the littleton, colorado, area? >> most of them are. i don't know if they stayed in e same homes because i kept closer with thfamilies that i don't with closely, most of those, the burnalls left, i wanted to come back to the a couple families, i suldn't use the names, left early on, they needed to get out of the
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pressure cooker and some them regrette it and came back because they felt their friends and support bse was also there. that was there, and that was wher they felt comfortable. that is where they ended up coming that. a lot of kids went to college. >> what about t harriseand the klbolds? >> the klebolds are in the same house, the harrises sold their house and i'm not sure where they are. ey get that low profile, there still in the area but i am not sure about that. those families had a difficult time. i have spoken to many people much closer to the klebolds. they only talk to david brooks one time, years out, never went to any others, spoken to no one. i talked to people close to
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them, they have a rough time. they lost a son too. they also had a mass murderer in their house. course that is terrible for them. they were taken by surprise. they were grieving two ways, their pastor referred to them early on as the two lonelies people in the world. because no one thinks o the parents of charles manson or jeffrey dahmer or someone like that. they don't have anyone who understands wh they are going through. they are in uncharted territory. they have a lot of great frnds, the pastor who is a wonderful man, wonderful lyman, everyone looked into him. >> tell us about dylan klebold's
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funeral? >> dylan ebold's funeral was very private, less than a week after columbine. the family was afraid to have a funeral. they did it in secrecy, they had not been going to a church regularly, they had attended lutheran church and a friend got word to the pastor that they needed somebody, they didn't have a pastor, they needed someoneo bury their son. he agreed to do it and there are fewer is an ad doz people there. he prepared something but when he got there he realizd they needed to throw that out and talk. he had everybody in the group, close friends of the family, dylan klebold's parents and brother, talk about dylan
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klebold and the brother paibularly was distraught, didn't know what to make of it. what to do about it. they selected a passage in scripture which was just perfect. i should know how to pronounce the name, absalom from the old testament, king david's son who at one point plotted to overthrow king david as the king of israel or judea, he led a revolt to overthrow davi they had to put it down, but gave explicit instructions to save his son, not allow his son to be killed. word came back to him that they had won the battle, he had died
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so david no down and cried, dn't remember the exact quote, something like oh lord, why did you take him? and john realized in the entire bible, that was the pasge that they could most empathize with and could understand, have him taken away, he had done a horrible thing but he was their son and they which they could have their son back. . that is the kind of guy he is, to understand that people, to have that compassion. to him dylan klebold was a mass murderer who did a horrible thing at he wasn't going t kill anymore. that was the best way he could help them.
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a two human beings who needed help. >> dave cullen, have the victims's families and survivors moved on, holding on to this? what is the status? >> they are all over themap. i just went to the ten year commemoration on the tenth anniversary and it was surprising to me. it was a little different than other events. the have been so ma therings ever time. a lot of them are things that have come up, evidence relf and some on anniversaries, five or ten years, the big things, the memorial, bill clinton spoke oquently and when the memorial was open. allhese things, these different events where everyone came back together, early on, we never knew how many more these
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would be. there could be five more, moore, nobody knew. by the time we got the opening of the memorial, everybody knew e crisis had paed. that one was different. there is a feeling we are almost done as a group memorializing this. it was interesting -- prepared speakers, so many of them spoke about closure. sort of angry at the concept of closure and people trying to impose this, closure, are you still complaining about that? wrap this thin up. you have had eight years to grieve, move on with your lives, th is the pressure they're feeling, there was a push back of quit telling us to quit grieving, that was really the
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main theme that day. everybody knew it was the second to last one and they wou not be seeing each other anymore. interestingly enough, i think they got over the hump at that one. because the ten yr annirsary, it was much more tranquil, there was no talk about closure, no push back beuse clearly they felt they dn't need to push back on anything, most of the people were at peace, were moving on. the girl who really said she believed in god, she spoke on behalf of thvictims, an amazing girl, she quoted robert frost, wish i could get this right. she quoted him saying all i need to know about the rest of my life can be summarized in three words, it goes on. that is how she feels. she also told me on facebook, i
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bear no ill wl towards dave cullen -- eric harris and dylan klebold, she moved down with her life. that a her, her pain, just holding it on, she is without it. not everybody is in that place, they don't need to be. lot of them are. this month it was different. >> has the school change? >> there are new procedures, it is not that different, the library did get torn down, the family's won that battle, the library is above the cafeteria where the bombs were planted, the story of the holding. that was taken down, the library's open entrance area can
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see the rocky mountains, they built an addition, parents raised $3 million to do that. the place where danny and rhel were killed outside, they be configured that a little bit. for the most part, they did cosmetic changes but mostly left it the same. it was important for the kids, the survivors to feel they hadn't lostheir school. there is an important psychological concept that kids can feel things th take away from them. they don't want to feel that the killers won. they had to make subtle changes, carpeting purses tiles, shoes on the floor sounds a little different, subconsciously kids know something is different but they can't put their finger on . new paint and that sort of thing. they changed that but mostly it is the same, nothing ever happened here. >> dave cullen, there had to be lawsui and money exchange, who
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paid, who got sued? what is the standing? >> there were a tremendous number of lawsuits. everyone you can imagine got sued. starting with the killers's parents. the school district, the principal, all of the sheriff's department, the maker of the drug that eric harr was on, anyo involved in a gun transaction, a huge list of people. most of those were eventually thrown out. the lawsuits, several were settled out of court, where the killer's families agreed to settlement. most of the moneyas paid b the killers'parents's homeowners's insurance policy. at the school district. the school district and sheriff's department made minor payouts, the bulk of the money came fro the killers, parents's
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insurance policy. if your son kills someone that is part of your home insurance. that was stunning to me. there was a lot of money distributed to them. their rich five holdout families, six initially to true to their word, the lawsuits were not about money, they wanted information. when they offered the money, they said w are n taking this money, we want information. finally, the deal was brokered where those five families and their lawyers sat down in a court room with the four parents of the killers andere allowed to ask any questions they want, got the complete answer, david answer every single question. itent on for about a week of depositions. the deal was those five milies could get the answers they wantedut the rest of the world could not. e parents would be free as to
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damage -- to talk as freely as they wanted and as the positions would be stroyed. after this happened, the transcripts were sent by a magistrate to be destroyed as pretty agreement and an outcry arose over that, a federal judge t involved deciding whether davis should be made public, after several more yearsnd two years ago, before virginia tech, he made the decision thathose records would be released in 20 more years. in 2027, we will find out what the parents had to say about their kids. right now they are in the national archives under seal and in 18 years we will find out what the parents had to say. hopefully they will speak sometime before that and shed some light on this, the one remaining element is what the parents can tell us and hopefully they will. >> i you done with columbine? >> and i done with columbine?
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i laugh because i think so, but i have said that before. after maybe a year or less, the new rk times asked me to do a piece on the national barbie convention in denr, and i spent four days doing that, and i was so thrilled to do something so light-hearted, nothing violent here, just fun, interesting people having fun. i am never doing another story on murder as long i live. it was a huge emotional relief. i kept cominback. i think i am almost done with columbine. my editor talked to me about a paperback edition, a brief afterword or something, i am
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still talkingo you, but i think i am just about done. i would like to be ne. i felt a huge relief after i turned in the final pages, i didn't even notice right away, in the next month, friends started asking me, what is going on? use seem happier, are you dating someone? is something going on? no, i guess i turned that book in. it was finallyff my chest, it was for better or for worse. i was marking tse pages, i got in trouble for doing too much. i wanted to do this right. for better or worse, i couldn't change it. i felt done. i knew in a different way that i was done and i am a much happier
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person. >> dave cullen.com in case you're interested, this is the book, published by 12. here are some of the journals of dylan klebold, copies of dylan klebold and eric harris's journals, you can also find them li at dave cullen got, and here is the denver post from two days later. columbine. dave cullen, thank you very much. >> thank you, i really appreciated. >> dave cullen is a journalist and intrigue to the -- contributor to the new york tis and salon.com. is a graduate of university of colorado at boulder has written extensively about the shootings at columbine. dave culn is the recipient of several society of professional journalism awards as well as glad media award. for more information, visit dave cullen.com. >> what is the best way to secure america?
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toridge taken inside the terrorist threat, his tenure as first head of homeland security and what led to his resignation, a three date book tv weekend tonight on c-span2. >> steve marriott be talked about teaching under current orship to inner-city youth. this was held in las vegas. >> of want to tell you what i did with my career the last 30 years. in 1981, i was a small businesspers and i got mugged in new york city during one of
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the crime wave, attacked by some kids over a small amount of money, $5 or $10. the question that haunted me was why would somebody humiliate me over a small amount of money when, had they asked me to invest mon or tried to sell me something, i would be eager to invest in a busess or to buy something, being a big fan of capitalism and markets. that began a big time in my life. in 1981 i sold my business and i became a special teacher in w york city. i specialize in working with children that were dropping o of school and i focused primarily on the south bronx, theargest prison system in america, three i schools their for children who were incarcerated, primarily for drug
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offenses for car theft. i had a lot of proems my first year, 1981, i couldn't control the class. moay night was torture, i could barely stand going to work. finally, my principal came dow and said we have to do something here. your class is out of control. you can hear them all over the building, it is destructive, you have to do something. i went back in the class, not very proud of this, i would wait for a child to do something wrong, then i would take the child down and i would say we are in school, a school that is about to be taken over, it is either me or the child has to be expelled. one by one, i got the really troubled children out of my classes. the end of the term, i had 16 children, i had started with 85.
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i was the antidrug coordinator for the school. something was wrong. in february of 1982, the kids, 16 children that i got through the term, had a party for me in boys and girls high school. they gave me a plaque, best new teacher, i am of there, you have probably had this happen to you, i am getting an award and i am thinking do i really deserve this? i lost 70 kids that i'vis supposed to keep in school. so i did something i am really proud of, 27 years ago, like it happened the yesterday, total recall, i called the young people that i had these quarrels with and brought them up and we had a party and said why did you to humiliate me in class? why did you turn on the radio? why did you try to put me out? when i was teaching math, why were you disruptive?
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one of the children said -- this will be hard for you to believe -- he said you were so boring we could barely stand it. another child said, mario rodriguez, said he would teach us like this, three times three, 4 times 4, how do you spell cast, u would embarrass me in front of my girlfriend, it was humiliating being in class. ilways felt terrible about that. i said was there ever a te when i taught you something tha the words that a teacher is always afraid to ask, asked it, was i ever a good teacher? this one wonderful young person said when you would tell us about your small business, how yowould bring in ladies's shoes from indiana at $5 cad a dollar to the insurance and sell them by the container loads in new york city, ur income statement would be $150,000 in
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revenue, it would be 130, gross pripould be 20, that comment is what i have been thinking about nonstop for 27 years. how do you teach capitalism, how do you teach the ownership, h do you tea people to contro financial assets, their time and their thoughts, people who have been excluded from the system, people who have not been given a chance to participate in markets and capitalism and instead many time had markets used against them by accident? that is what i have been thinking about. for the next 7-1/2 years i rotated around going to difficult schools as antidrop our coordinator working on one
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thing over and over again, to develophe teaching method ology, developed lesson plans, to be able to teach children in poverty, children having issues in school and didn't have much money -- seven years goes by, 1987, i wanted to create an organizationhat could become a worldwide movement so tha every child in this world born into poverty will learn the basic prciples ofcapitalism. i suggest to you today that that is the biggest social issue of our time and our best chance to liberate the world from so much tyrannaround the world and so much poverty. >> thank you, [applause] i founded nifty in 1987 and it has grown.
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i want to give you a sense of the growth because we're very proud of it. our purpose is to teach children from low income communities how to start small business. our vision, every person will find a half way to prosperity, and we do that by teaching basic entrepreneurship. we work with 15,000 children a year, we have 3,000 graduates, we are in 22 states, we have a budget here in america of $17 million, and overseas, look athi we are in 13 countries. from china to india, we are the official entrepreneurship owners to program in south africa. new zealand through europe, bringing the power of markets to low come children. this is key, ts is an income statement. you know, you're here, you are fascinated by it, nifty is one of the few programs in the world that focuses on teachg
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c@ildren about net profits, so they can become owners, benefit from multiple earnings, benefit from the wonderful power of ownership. most educators run the world focused on the direct labor line. i urge you to raise those issues wi your schools and your communities because i think that is a mistake. i want to tell you this past year was one of the highlights of my yearof my life. they picked business week, kicked the top 25 young entrepreneurs in america, the top 25 young and turner -- entrepreneurs in america, out of the 25, two were nifty graduates. we outperformed the ivy league. thank you. thank you. i wanto quickly show you a two minute trailer of a movie that was done about the field of vie
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entrepreneurship coming add in october. i hope you go see it. it is not about new fee, just capitalism for low-income children. it is two minutes. i want you to see the trailer and i want to introduce you to the star of that movie w will speak for a couple nutes and we will be done. if you could roll the trailer, that will be awesome. ♪ >> i feel i have been cheated. >> ronny can't aord to feed. >> you try again. >> he is motivatin >> youave a life ahead of you. my brother didn't make it out. >> i went down the wrongath. >> paying for greatness.
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>> i don't want to end up under the regret. >> the regret of not fulfilling life. >> not being a disappointment. ♪ >> i am working in sales. >> nobody knows the business better than you do. >> i'm so nervous. >> i will be crossing my fingers. >> did you do any market research? >> was it a deposit? >> i will be succesul. >> believe you will succeed and you will do it. >> i want to be a parent. >> i can do anything.
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>> it matters not house trained the gain, how charred the punishment, i amhe master of my faith, i am the captain of my life. >> that trailer is on youtube. when i watched it on youtube, i watch it 35 times. i can imagine that is the reason there are so many hits on it. e movie was great.
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i went to aspen, colorado, to see the movie. it w one of the most wonderful experiences i ever did in my life. not just because i am in the vie, it is very fantastic film. me and six other young entrepreneur ors competed in the national business competition and told their story throughout the movie, at extvagant experience that we have overcome to this point. >> i and college of theoung students to join nifty and see what wonders it may do for their lives. i am only 19, gd to pass on what if he has taught me throughout my life.
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it has contained f me on a nsistent basis that a national competition that wwere exposed to in this program has hte every october, i came in second place in the national competition. with that -- [applause] >> with that eerience came a lot. i me a lot of entrepreneurs who were as ambitious as i was and i gained some initiative to go back in my cmunity and tell people about this program. it is foolish not to settle for anything they don't want. nifty teaches you that throughout ts program. the network of entrepreneurship has been profound, a profound impact on me in many ways, education, it influenced me to come to school every day, get involved in a lot of the activities that otherwise would have meant nothing to me. my business was a video production business, we create
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custom music, special events and occasions and record video and making movies. it is like shooting vhdeo of a birthday party, going back and customizing and making a movie. it has become very successful to this point. through my education, mentors, very successful mentorshat are look up to. and model my lif after instead of what has been seen in my community which has been a very drastic measure for me to overcome. having mentors through nifty, traineby nifty has given the leverage throughout my life, gave me portunities and exsures i didn't even know what entrepreurship and that, didn't know what t conpt was, how we can elaborate a person's life and take advantage of it. that in itself is what gave me
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the push to go ahead and create my own business and to create wonders for my life. on a personal level it gave me a means of finding myself a creating a place for my life. i am a student who has grown up with a lot of tough measures. i attended ten elementary schools, i have been through eight neighborhoods in chicago and through all of that i have not had a consistent communication with my family. i was able to find my tru family when i was , how they are doing, just to know that they are still impoverished, they suffer from drug infestation, gained affiliated neighborhoods, things of that nature. that icoletely different and opposite lifestyle because i choose -- nifty has given the leverage to move my life in that direction. ..

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