polarization's though they say that w theoment american democracy died and i think for some young americans who lived there 9/11 they have a similar perspective, that this was the moment when a country tha had been prosperous and on the right track somehow went off the rails so they want to look back to that event it makes sense of it. >> host: that is also compounded b what we were constantly told after 9/11 and i still find appalling. everything changed with 9/11. we were told that for a long time that many people and many different walks of life and i think that leads to this kind of concerned too if everything changed it couldn't just be th grp of whatever, somewhere between a dozen and a few dozen people who put it together? it couldn't be. that is the notion that kind of makes the conspiracy theories

saem a viable. >> guest: writes, it is used a lot that they could not have done it. ..

how is an average person to make the distinction? hw were we to know? is the devin really out to get us creating conspiracs or is th really just another wrong exanation?

>> i tell my students it isard work being a citiz of bay democracy 1/2 to read and keep yourself and for dan have to question authority 1/2 to question the conspiracy theorist out of how are you have a government officials telling you things also people who are out of power and you need to demand an explanati and not just say that sounds right or trust that person or distressed that person. you need to investite and make use of your resources of the media and allf the information available in the information age and make your own decisions. >> host: is anything you can point* to that distinguishes a real government conspiracy om one that is a magic and/or no way to do that except for that investigation? >> guest: evidence. that is the only thing. watergate was a conspiracy

theory among reporters at "the washington post" but then the tapes came out and approved it iran contra conspiracy theory until the evidenc comes out. the other conspiracies we don't have the evidence yet. that does not mean they did not ppen but it does not mean we need to demand the evidence and keep looking for it. >> host: thank you very much. it has been wonderful. >> guest: thank you. [applause] thank you very much. i am glad toee there's a big crowd here to speak to "pay to

play" how d blagojevich turned political corrution into a national sideshow". elizabeth brackett will sign copies of this book right after in this event and i urge all of you to read it. this is one of the first bks that i do this every year this is the first time i have read the book. [laughter] but what they assigned me to do the author. i was the eager peter parker as a lo of peoe in illinois have been because as the story of our govern there were so many different dimensions i will ask her some questions you havea conversation for a short time that i would like some of you to take the microphone halfway through and i would like to hear your questions as well. by 12 start the conversation with with patti blagojevich in

the governor's wife is on a reality tv sw called i am a celebrity, get me out of here. anody watching that. [laughter] >> this is a very wise crowd. >> i want to know have you been watching it? >> guy quist missequite few minutes i watched the first 90 and that is enoug i was note after the tarantula went down. a there the former first lady or her sband cannot shy away from the camera. it is critical to them they're dog a good job on the media to were. >> host: in what way is understanding the relationship between broad and pty

blagojevich and her character, way is this important? >> it is very important pt of the puzzle. rod blagojevich political career began after he married patty. his days her father s a car for all dman and he really launched his political career no dot blagojevich would not be where he was without richard. >> host: whawas he doing when they met? >> guest: he was a former state's attorney then he just set up practice with his law degree set up a storefront law office and his motheras his receptionist for theut is what he was doing when he met d a. after he met her some think it was by design he wanted to meet the daughter of a polital

aldermen they've met at a fund-raiser she wasind of moping around the house and the father said come to my fund-raiser at the german restaurant on the norther side. that is where they met and patty said afterwards i think if i go out with him i will have the time of my life. [laughter] she was right about thatark about launched his political career. >> host:o you think he was a storefront lawyer, did he still have political dreams or had he always have political dreams? >> guest: i think he had some. the one subject he loved was history.

he had a fascination and with politics with american presidents rod blagojevich can name every preside backwards and forwards he can tell you what president was in each year. when he was in eighth grade he organized mock elections of who was the most famous or an important president. his mother gave him a collection of little american plastic figure president's. he would ashe other kids played wittheir baseball's he would organize his presidential figures then run mock election is. he always had an interest in history and politics for i am not sure he set out to become a politician. butt was in the back of his mind. >> host: it does not seem his trajectory was political you do

not go from being a storefront lawyer to a powerfuloliticia. >> guest: why did you want to become a lawyerracks may be in the back of his mind he wanted to get into politics. he wanted to do something important for he would be known. he wanted to do something to live up to his parents' expectations of all the sacrifices they made for him and his brother. >> host: there was not a says was a brilliant person w have all of this potential. right? refresh my memory on his academ career. he did not to several of high-school and trouble getting into college? >> guest: it was probably his academic career was forgettable. he did okaand school. his brother, 15 months older and they are very, very close, he is

the start of the family. more athletic, more academically gifted, he won a baseball scholarship to the university of tampa. fad is where rod when he followed his brother he did not kit the academic or athletic scholarshiand when his brother gruated he applied for northwestern so his grades were good enough tere probably he was always in the middle of the class and he wanted too to law scol, his graduate record exams were really not good enough to get into the school he wanted so he finally applied to pepperdine in the california and got in there and the law school roommate, who remained a frid and former chief of staff and is

now indicted with him. [laughter] told me ask a student, even if law sool, rod did well in the subjects he liked with history, politics, even if n law school. he read a lot but not necessarily what w assigned and his law professoraid if you would aly yoursf to all of the subjects to the way you do in e ones that you enjoy, you would do better. he did what he wanted to do and ignored everything else. >> host: pepperdine is conservative and he is also known to be a real fan of ronald reagan. he voted at least wants, maybe twice. he was a young republican? >> remember his real hero was richard nixon. primarily because he is the son

of a serbian ammigrants and most immigrants wereepublica wn they came to the united states because they were rery angry #1 at rose of all because of what happen to in yalta becausehey felt that he was given away to the iron curtain. they really love to join the eisenhower because they liberated the nazi prison camp for so many were staunch republicans and eisenhower was

passed on to nixon and so in this home where all the serbian was spokane, the republicans re the party of choice except his mother s the first generation. she was born in the united states her parents wer from bosnia hers of no. >> she had a job as a ticket taker so she was a route chicago democrats. there is a clash in the household between demrats and republicans and his brother is also a staunch republican and and he is also indicted he figured hisolitical career would be better if he runs in chicago is a democrat so he

moved over to 71 of his first political jobs was worth gaming with the but democrat who was a big time chicago aldermen who converted to republican partin the '80s? and i am wondering, this is a larger question, how much of his political philosophy is what truly animates him it is videologic all? >> guest: th is hard to figure out pricing his public political philosophys populism. he is concerned for the little guy his anti-tax comes from the in a gntor values of his father that theseere lo out for the little guy. his father worked in the steel

mill and in the alaskan pipeline. his parents sacrificed everything to be successful and you could see that in some of rod blagojevich politics. but when you look at his persal life and ethics, there is not a lot of indication that those values of hard work, honesty, and performan translated into the personal life. >> one of my strong impressions is he was my state representitive and mike congressmen on the northwest side. one of the early boats that he took is the amendment to ban desecration of the american flag. i thought that was a foolish idea a republicaidea be he voted for that amendment and my

thought was then i began to look harder at his rord and i thought wtore values does he have? what makes him a democrat? i looked at him as the opportunt. he looks whathe public when did he wanted to be what he thout the voter wanted him to be. he was forming himself as a candidate but not a core set of principles. >> host: that is another good analysis. he was and that e only in illinois democrat o roach for funding the iraq war. that was surprising as well. >> host: if i could rewind to patty blagojevich, what we know about her or 1/8 influencehe may have? who is she and what is she about? >> cell whnle story hasn't

shakespearean tragic overtones. [laughter] it does. dick melwas a very strong family man, and wind patty mehta d originally dick mell was very pleased thought this would be a terrifi match. but his wife on t other hand, was somewhat concerned about rod blagojevich from the very beginning. she just did not trust him. she w not sure he had her daughter's best interest that part which said they turned out to be the case. she wound up with a horrible brain disease and diedbout five years ago. so you have dick mell who at one

point* had a son and law, the governor of illinois, lovely wife, great kids, suddenly his wife dies, he is completely estranged from his daughter, a grandchildren, it was very tragic. >> host: can you tell the story? where it came about in the family? it was over the landfill? >> guest: but it began earlier than that when dick mell was critical to rodlagojevich election as a state representative and congress man. when he thought aboup governor he remainedcritical buts a gubernatorial campaign went on, rob blagojevich srounded himself with a difnt crowd ich included christopher calle and stuart levine and rezko who

saw him as governor but also went along with the dre of becoming president of united states purdue have to understand how important that was to become president of the united states. people began to look adick mell thinking maybe he would not ay too well in a presidential campaign and old chicago democratic politicians so they began to freeze them out. by the time to 17 @ecame governor that really frozen out which irritated dick mell to no end. whate really wanted, he did not necessarily want to be on the staff but he wanted to be a player inhis strategy committee meetings and his organization that worked so hard

forob blagojevichrom the time he was elected to the illinois house and all the way through the governor's race was livid because rob blagojevich wanted notng to do with them the ere. are not only did they get the state jobs, he gave them no respect. there is a small incident when his name was still on the 303rd ward stationery. becausehey thought they were proud and blagojevich saw his na on the stationery and had christopher kelly call up dick mell and arrange a meeting say his son-in-law wanted his name off of the stationary. >> host:he meeting was with calle? that is interesting suddenly blojevich will not deal with dick mell he has his

intermediaries will do this is awkward can you take the name of? then when we get to the other incident with the landfill the thing that struck me is not that he had a pblem with dick mell but the way he handled the problem whicit is so telling. >> guest: that exactly. he said why didn't you just call me up? you are my son of a lot. it was christmas eve in the first year of his first term the family christmas party and suddenly there is a nephew of dick mell wife talking about a man felt he is opening d he is sayi i'm not having any trouble because rod is governor and rod heard this and was livid and instead of saying, lay off, we have to dohings

correctly, he went to the illinmis epa and have them shut down the landfill. this was the last traw four dick mell per our . he went ballistic are remember the prs conference he originally talk to a "icago sun-times" reporter she had a terrific story and basically what he said that he repeated you know, my son-in-law he is selling the state jobs hard to think of these people are getting a point* did to commissions? $25,000 a pop for everybody was a little stunned. then a couple weeks later he was talking about christopher calle who threatened to sue so dick mell took it back but it was to the eighth. said genie was out of the bottle

the attorney general started the first investigation that's morphed into the patrick fitzgerald invectigati probe dick mell created his son-in-law and basically planted the seeds to destroy him. >> host: why did rod blagojevich have dreams to become a president and why were they possible? if you go back seven years you would say there is a young politician a young democratic politician who will become prident of the united states bere 2010 everybody would think you were talking abo rod blagojevich. it makes him sound like he is a character on a "saturday night live" bute had a gre deal of political skill. i not necessarily mean governing but polital skill. can you talk about he is not

just a cartoon character. there's a lot to this man as a politician. >>uest: have so they when h won e governorship and first-time 2002 and seriously inking aut runnng for president, it was not unrealistic. he just one governor of the fifth largest state, a pulist campaign, he was appealing, the voters responded he knew how t raise money and as he was being talked about it was not unrealistic for our remember doing in in to do that i think blagojevich hi thinking for presidency and many contemporaries agreed. en you look at he fact there wasnother young politician

exactly the same age elected to the endwave legislature at the same age where is in no national experience became elected at the same age blagojevich was the govern and guest why? he is our president. [laughter] >> ht: if you look at the first inaugation were the first inaugural speech it was a wonderfustoring up 15 this is theawn of a new era of e politics of gold i over a new era of cooperation and getting things done it was an amazing mome. but it was quite a moment when he took office and a lot of people thought he had a ton of promise. >> guest: absolute 81028 -- 25 years democrat control both

legislature. the governor that he followed, could george ryan was in a bit of trouble. he was not indicted, i mn he was not convi. it was a new era of reform, a progressive politics coming to illinois and blagojevich looked like the man to lead it. >> host: put on your haft and tell us what went wrong? what was his tragic fl or his tragic mistakes? >> y have to understand how badly he wanted to be president. i w standing behind dick mell on election night and i heard him say to a friend, he is on to the whe house. it was all around h.

when you run for president you will either tryo run and ornize a base with every fund raiser or chicken dinner you will build organizations through the internet or a fund-raising operatn but you will start to build an organization throughout the country which is what obama's did zero or you will decide or raise as much money as i can weren' that is why will realize my dream. the way he wanted to do with it is to use hisosition as governor of illinois in order to be able to hd out favors and corol the seats on the board and if you wanted one of those positions and wanted to do business in illinois, you have

to pay to play. part of at money would go into the rob blajevich campaign fund. friends fo blagojevich. that was the key what was a criminal enterprise for the benefit of personal benefit and politacal benefit of fraud blagojevich when you put that national fund-raising operation and take other, most people who wanted to purchase a page in illinois government got part of the access by contributg to the political campaig that is what send him down the road to ruin. >> host: you have to sl yourself to a national audience and you cannot raise enough monefor a presidential campaign. weaw how much they hado spend. >> guest: he was doing a pretty good job. >> host: you can have enough

to re-elect but the idea to raise your way into the white house? >> guest: he wanted to build a naonal fund-raising operation. when he spoke to joe kerry who pled guilty to corruption, he was a fund-raiser for al re, bill clinton, and a ver prominent national democrat from the chicago. blagojevich turnedo him how to put together aational fund-raising operation in about e third yearr second year of the firsterm. he wanted the roots how to put together this organization and he also turned into a political strategy firm in washington d.c. brought the same time there were

crafting the national fund-raising strategy, they were trying to position blagojevich to be a national candidates. that is what happened to his politics because many policies that he was soasonate about with universal health care, even the all kids program which was successful, he believed in these but there were also wod position him very well for a run fnr the presidency. he likes the big national sues that could get national press to put himself in a position to run. he was governing by a press conference on these national issues that he never built a real constituey for in illinois and certainly not in the legislature. >> host: i seehis strategy of i want to create an imagef the a governor. third gu who worked the

illinois miracle. this is what happens in a national campaign. somedy says look what i did in arkansas. you show people what you have done. at puzzles me is he wanted to get things done but he thought he woqld pick a fight with everybody. the main political strategy is to throw down the gauntlet and he was always picking fights putting its reality -- ideology and illegality aside, who gave him that idea? was that a bad csultant? it seems like a dumb way to go about working eight illinois miracle. >> that w both his own

character and the way he envisioned himself as a scrappy fighter. that is how he saw himself maybe it was the son of immigrants raced on the northwest side broker at northwesrn he felt the outsider. he felt that somebody who had to run against the status quo. fact is who he was. then we found consultants who agreed with him and took that course sinn and turned it into what they thought would be a winning strategy on a national campgn. you are right. is such a puzzling charact because he seems to be such a dichotomy brothers one man who can care for a terrific speech, works a room like nobody's busine but on the

other hand, he absolutely dad not build a single strong political relationship in illinois. he was at war with the legislature from the very moment, even before he was elected. he liked about. he like to set up the problem and he word, then and concord and emerge the victor but it did not work. >> host: i feel like i m for taking over with my questions i will a you to come takeover but while you are lining up, i will a you this the best to tell me about, you interviewed a number of people who were close to blagojevich in his first admistration. what did they tell you either on the record or off the record? whatmpression did that have and what did you learn in talking to those people?

>> guest: he did have a very loyal staff which is puzzling because he never paid any attention to tm. he never had a staff meeting. he never held a cabinet meeting. ever. the way he ran illinois government was puzzling. it turns outarticularly in the end, he was runningrom a speaker phone in his living room. not only did he not go to springfield he did noto tohe office and the chicago eithe it troubled his staff to put it lightly and it was almost as if as if he had a real psychological problem. i have talked to enough people that i finally went in to talk to several psychiatrt who were good enough that would not give a diagnosis but did point* me

toward clinical definition of a narcissistic pernality disorder for somody who has the overall neefor attention and pass to be in the middle of things muc of which is to cover up aasic lack of self-esteem and many staff members sought at fitim at 280. they remember en they cannot get him out of thoffice or out of his house to go to a political event. to talk about his policies he did not want to go. he did not want that computation with anybody that would challenge him which makes y wonder about the basic lack of self-esteem or self-confidence. but when he did go, he was fabulous and turned around the room. ey were just as troubled and puzzled as everybody else. he is a man he had his demons

and we saw them play out and illinois >> host: that is erious to discuss whether somebody who is meally ill who is govern of yourtate. or is he a garden variety politician who has bad moves along the w? >> guest: he is not a fee no politiciane is very likable if you can get him out of his house. [laughter] >> i will not did -- diaenose him but i do think this must days narcissistic personal disorder it is not psychotic werechizophrenict is a disorder i think some kind of diagnosis could be used to interpret many of h actions. right now, as we named the bookseller hold national media

spee lev, the national sideshow for every defense attorney this it is crazy. if you're going to be under indictment you are supposed to be at home preparing for trial you're not supposed to be going public at every opportunity but he cannot leave alone his press secretarsaid the status think -- saddest thing wn he is out of office and no nger able to talk to the press because theeeded that adation and to be on stage. he could not let it go and he cannot. >> host: he is supsedly writing his own biography. areou looking forward to readg that? [laughter] i am wondering do you think he has the insight and knowledge to write his own biography? >> guest: yes. i know how hard iwas to write

a ok. i cannot wait to see how he does bring it will be interesting to see what he says aut other illinois politicia because he is in a position to say a l with especiallypringfield and what he s us to say about my cohmad again. about insight? we will see if he has a ghostwriter. >> . >> it is great to listen to you both. i agree with that observation of him being very opportunistic. can you put into ntext of th rest of illoisolitic to read joe's look at blagojevh is just a case of rob blagojevich or how does this fit and to the rest of upstate chicago politics and what has gone on if they governor's office? is this the illinois affliction? >> guest: i do have a chapter

devoted to the histo of illinois politicalorruption. host: just e chapter? >> guest: it could be longer. [laughter] we live in a state that has a strong sordid history, 1853 governor mad sen from $200,000 which he said he founded his shoe box. i thought it was funny when i read the stories about how wall, you wanted to get a license plate you just wrote a check to paul -- powell and it turned out they really did. [laughter] and four of the last governor's row end up in jail if blagojevich is convicted so there is a history but i do like what patrick fitzgerald said it was paid to play on steroids

brokee did take it to a n level. >> host: so the answer is whether blagojevich willry his harper valley pta moment? we wonder if he gave his speech to the woman says i have done wrong butou and you? >> guest: he did some of fact. >> ht: may be a little taste. but the other question is will he or can we put this into common this is how businessot do? on steroids by just a vsion of what everybody else was doing. that seems to be his own view. everybody does this all along >> absolutely i thought he was

much too harsh i think before the senate who was about to and teach him what is master fall. it shows whatlagojevich and the talent of what he could have been. it was a terrific speech. i believed a lot of it. but i do have to say i was a bit disturbed when the eleanor form commission which had all of these reforms coming out of what happened to blagojevich, the chief prosecutor in the george ryan case and he did a magnificent job they're all before the state legislature whichs now richard without passing hdly any of them. they were watered down. was beginning to think blagojevich was the exception of th now maybe i am willing to say after the dismal performance

to change the culture. >> his argument is the house to raise this money because the house to go around the pow structure in did general assembly which was not going to budge. >> guest: there is some truth to that part of michael madigan did not want to have bgojevich pass any meaningful legislation primarily because he wanted to see his daughter windup become governor which she may. there was entnched interest but of the other hand he did absolutely nothing to form any political relationships with any of these people. host: but he did have a w alance withormer senate president which made a paid gridlock because nothing was moving either way to one exactly. i did interview him he is sti

ve angry with blagojevich and characterizes it as a lynching did have some support in the senate in springfield but he made no attempt to ha any kind of relationship rather tn e of total anchor. >> about the ethics of the landfill should it have been stopped on its merit? ar was stopped should it go ahead? >> guest: a good question i do think there were some questions but in the end after the illinois epa shut down there was more hearings anthey reopened it and eventually it did get a clean billf health. >> host: weave another question it is not so much and the same thing it is not what he

122 do but how he went about it. >> did anybody to urge him to leave the house and go to wor you justave to show up. >> guest: yes he was frequently urged to leave the house press secretary told me that she would go over there every morning and it's a to go over the day's events and it was his job to drag him out of the house and get him to a political event. but he lived four blocks away he would go over there every morning and he was never invited intois house. he would sit in his car for an hour to get that governor out of the house. he did not rlly wanted to leave his house twonder how much it has to do with how much to apply to

believe what the politicians say. were you surprised how he behaved from the beginng in a way inconsistent with the things that he said? allot of fuss field we knew ahead of time that what happened. >> gue: if the voters ew it come a day elected him again we did not hear enough. i was surprised at the eent to how rly the corruption began and his whole plan for raising money it began when he was running for governor that many seeds of the criminal enterprise began. >> we have me forne mo questioná >> the way i see it livingn

the chicago since 1974 as a member of the media you go into his madsen's and he loves to be on tv and the statement but living in chicago has become almost impossible what could you do to sway it to make it better for us? at about a better life in this city of chicago? or call the techs? -- politics. >> i am no sure that is our job as the media. [laughter] at we're trying to do is bring u.s. much information a we can to whais happening in the government. somebody said what about the media? why didn you tells? by then i have lunch with the sun times reporter at the feral building who said i wrote 247 stories on what was going on with rod blagojevich so we may take some of the blame.

but we try to dig out as much information as we can and put it out there has to react to the voters to read it and respond >> host: and unfortunately giving fed governor another hour of their time. thiss the book, "pay to play" by teenine per or i urge you to come out and meet elisabetand have er sign a copy and those of you watching this to buy it from your bookstore. thank you very much. [applause]

>> good to see everyone. i have a new book out and the spsor has asked me to come and share some thoughts. a couple of different parts come a first is to establish there is a crisis because it is not

intuitively clr and certain portions there is a crisis. second comment to explore the options there are firewall options and others that i would call sir real then fally i there a new way to look at water in the united states? if there was never one he once suggested there is plenty of water and th mojave desert unless you try to establish a city where no city should be of course, that city would be las vegas so now we have a city was one point* 8 million people in a metropolitan area, a city with the strip with fotains and lagoons and canals andome of the most ostentatious w use a magical in the middl of the mojave desert that creates a problem and las vegas has run out of water and they get it.

the executive dirtor of other southern nevada water authori has had an about face almost a religiou conversion a few years ago she wasot worried n that is all she worries about and she is taking very aggressive steps to try to secure water for las vegas future and f its growth. she has embarked on a proam to pay homeowners to rip out their lawn $2 per square foot or with a golf course to take out the qtr facility she has agreed with other seven nations states to alw her to create a storage facility located in california but she would get the water diverted out of lake mead. 8,243,000,000,000-dollar pipeline to take groundwater from central nevada hundreds

miles away and move it dto the las gas valy. they have been very, very aggressive and still growth is occurrinho many if you are familiar with the city center? it is the largest construction project in histo with $9 billion. seven kors hours come if you look in the shadow of the monte carlo one of theiggest casinos thetrip it looks like a tinker toy. there will be 50 or 7000 people living in this community it is a city within a city growing up, not elsewhere but what ee will she do?

this is aublic-service announcement that ray and on the las vegas television station. >> can i help you? [laughter] [laughter] las vegas has a different sense of what is appropriate for televion than some communities. she ishreatening the residence with bodily harm but what about the strip? she is taking out pieces of lawn but what about the canals and

fountains? how does she justify that? pretty easily. when steve wynn wanted to do the belagio fountain, he said i have to have a fountain. do not tell me i can't butust tell me hoi can do it hit she said are you prepared doubl pelosi hotel am prepared to put date system in the basement and take the contaminated groundwater at and reuse that? she said find then that is what every casino has done since then. it is a rise. it is all recycled water. what they have with the fountains and elsewhere is recycled. the hotels themselves have low foe flow fixtures and measurements to aid wasting water. fussing about the strip that is quite remarkable is little new uses 3% of las vegas water.

3% that is the economic driver in the entire state. farmers use about 80% and they generate an economy that gerates 6,000 jobs. that is the same as a single casino. when we look at the sry of las vegas we're looking into the future preferot just the average area where people gamble, it is where the people of united states and how they will respond to the crisis one of the founding father said when the well is dry reno the work i done. he was wrong. we are spoiled. get up in the morning to non that tap and out comes as much as we want for less than repay for cellphones service for cable television but the reality is we treated as tugh it were air

an infinite. when for all practical purposes it is finite and exhaust a ballpark every time that toilet goes down and los angeles as much as 6 gaons of water and set in the pacific ocean that will not be available for reuse four decades or hundreds of years to come. let's examine the crisis in the united statesroke in the last 18 months all of these thing have happened. colorado farmers have had the wells turned off by the state engineer, other crops withered, theyatched investments decline and it was a very sad sight. in the tennessee, the town literally ran out of water and had to bring it in from elsewhere. from lake mead scientists have predicted that the supply of

water f phoenix, arizona and los geles could go dry by the year 2021. a company in that south carolina, closed its doors and hired -- fired hundreds of workers cuts it could not operate because there's not enough water. the regulatory commission denied permits for two new power plants in georgia because there was not enough water to run tm. and california's central valley as we sit here from the farmers are in tough shape some have cut the tops off of perfectly healthy avocado trees in a pathetic effort to keep them alive. lake superr is too low to flow to fully loaded cgo ships requiring the offload which erratic increased the cost of of thpacific coast of california

commercial fishing season has been canceled two years in a row decimating fishing communities. in the west, threetates have denied permits for new power plants on the grounds there was not enough water and in riverside california scores of residents and commercial projects have been canceled for lack of water and atlanta of it came within 90 days of running out of water. led to the i'm not talking about enviroental issues. of this is not about endangered species or low flow ordered dried up river, it is all about economics. we may fret about running out of oil but water lubricates the american in the economy just toss the oil.

let's tk about atlanta. anybody from george? they use water but this is the principal water supply for four and a half million people what do they do in the drug? the governor played the blame game and blad the federal government, regulators, army corps of engeers the way the releaseater from the lake. of the blame game is always successful. stay politicians know you cannot lose with a cstituent by aming. what else? theypposed modest restrictions come a tempora bans on washing cars, filling swimming pools and watering the lawn. beyond that he said i he to do something else. he said i will hold a prayer