really, lots of room in this store, enjoy yourselves. shop! we would love that! please, please, enjoy yourselves. >> i understand you came all the way from florida for this sarah palin book signing, can you explain why. >> yes, yes, for sure i did. i had to see this woman, who represents middle america. she's our voice. >> why is that, can you explain for about that. >> everything she says, pertains to the middle people, she is dynamic, she is for middle america. she is... knows the issues. and i think that she is going to represent us more than we apt. >> when you say middle america, what do you mean. >> just the commoners. people who don't know where to go, to get information. don't know where to go, to have representation. i think that she will be their voice. >> and did you vote for

mccain-palin in '08. >> by all means, i did. i did. >> so why do you think they didn't win the election? >> i think there was too much outside influence and i don't think that she was given the opportunity. i think there were too many people that were strategizing and kept her from speaking out. >> a number of people i talked to seem to be upset about how she is treated by the media. would you agree and what would you say about that. >> i think she was treated unfairly. i think that she should have been able to speak more openly, and, have her own platform. >> and are you a lifelong republican? >> no, i used to be a democrat. but when she came on the scene, george bush, too. but when palin came on the scene, i felt that i needed to vote for somebody who was in my corner.

>> thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> what about you two? >> definitely, palin. >> i'm sorry. you said that she knows what the country needs. what does the country need? >> the country needs honesty, they want to hear the truth. and we're not hearing the truth right now. we're hearing a convoluted information that we have... totally confusing on the matters. and you think you are voting for one thing and really it could be twisted around and tied up into another piece of legislation that will then make it something we haven't really voted for and that is what scares me. i think we need someone that tells us the straight story and we're not getting that. >> and your name and where you from. >> i'm linda hogan from cincinnati, ohio and this is my daughter, jill.

>> hi. i think that sarah palin is a real voice for america, and she has a platform to stick up for us, and to give america the change, actual, people are talking about change, she is the change that we need. >> you look familiar. >> yes. do i look a little like sarah. >> what is your name. >> carolyn from kings mills, ohio. >> are you dressed up to look a little bit like sarah palin on purpose. >> well, actually, this is my look, and we just happen to look-alike. >> why are you here today. >> absolutely to meet sarah palin. get my book signed. >> and what do you like about sarah palin. >> you know, i like her because i believe that she is... just real, she seems like one of us,

and, raising her children and also, doing everything that she does, you know, running for environment and hopefully she'll continue. >> so if she were to run for president in 2012, why would you support that? >> i support it because i believe that she is a woman who, you know, knows what she is doing and i just support her and i like her. [cheers and applause]. >> goodness, thank you so much for being here. we're going to have a blast, thank you. [cheers and applause]. >> i appreciate your boldness

and your courage, even for being here, especially those of you carrying that book under your arm, going rogue with me! i appreciate that, thank you! [cheers and applause]. >> really, it is good to be here, on the book tour and i appreciate those of you who want to read my words unfiltered, refreshing for me to get to call it like i see it and not worry about what anybody else will say, get out there and speak truth and i know that is how you guys are wired, too, otherwise you wouldn't be here, thank you so much and we'll get to work and sign these books and i want to shake every one of your hands an thank you so much for being here, god bless you guys! [cheers and applause] [audience chanting sarah] [inaudible conversations]

[cheers and applause]. >> very much from her today on the... the news media, no sound equipment or things like that, in the signing area. and... may be able to see sarah palin on your own, you are out of luck. all of the slots for the book signing have been given out and, in fact, the store remains officially closed to the public until 3:00, when the book signing is over. back to you. >> phyllis, thank you. appreciate you. so nice to meet you. thank you so much for being here. appreciate you so much. make it to you. >> >> right there. >> the lady in the green. >> thank you so much for being here. >> do you have two?

oh, okay. all right, good, thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. i want you to be comfortable, guys, and everybody, you will get through and we'll get you through quebec quickly with a good time. >> why did you come here. >> she's like a rock star to me, believes everything i believe and a great girl, and conservative, you know, i just love everything about her. great mom. >> thank you for being here. what is your name, god bless you, too. i appreciate the encouragement. >> it was so nice to meet her. >> did she talk to you at all. >> yes, a little bit. i had a few words to tell her. i told her i was the radar czar and she needs to readjust the radar and we'll see here in 2012. >> can you show this is signature, the signature there. >> i have my signature.

[inaudible conversations]. >> nice to meet you. thank you so much for coming. what do you do...? oh, very good. okay. [inaudible conversations]. >> thank you so much. thank you, appreciate it. thank you. hi, how are you? [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations].

>> joe dimatto, from senate. and. >> what brings you out here to the book signing today. >> i mean, first of all, i believe this woman is a lot different from the average politician you see today. she actually answers the question, without trying to dodge it. and i think that's the best thing i like about her and also if you look at the political books you will see she dedicates it to americans just like mark levin with his book, i saw his liberty and tyranny. they are dedicated to the people. most politicians are dedicated to themselves. and i think that is a difference. look around you. there are no northeastern or california people here, they are all midwestern and, you know,

people that are like her, i think. which is not like the normal politician we see today. >> now i'm going to have to ask you, what is wrong with people from the northeast or california. >> nothing i was born in new york but, you know, they think when you are leaving new york city you are camping out. and that's not true. it's, you know, again i think she sounds like the average american and when you ask her a question, she answers it, like the average american would, instead of the politicians today, that run away from most of your questions. >> do you think she has a chance to be president someday? >> i think she has, my own guess would be her plan would be to get on the campaign trail, with other conservatives, she'll raise a lot of money for them and will be able to stand next to them and i think show they are somewhat like her and not

again like this average politician and i think after the election, next november, she'll sit there and say, i have enough people out there that really think like i think, and i think she can. >> do you consider yourself a conservative? >> yes, i do. you know, yes, i do. >> what does that mean to you. >> that means that i don't think government is... should be as large as it is. i think most of the freedoms we enjoy, we should continue. and, you know, i think the health care thing really shows you the problems we have. we have got somebody with a broken leg and want to take his heart out be, and there are a couple of things we can fix, for the reform being one of them and i can buy insurance across-state and we should be able to do that and that will solve most of the problems without having to go through extra -- the extra taxes we'll be put on ourselves and my

grandchildren will wind up having to pay for this. >> thank you. >> work with us, otherwise... nice to see you that thank you very much. mike signals thank you very much. >> rachel kaufman from loveland. >> you came down to get your book signed. what was it like. >> it was amazing. actually i just drove from ohio state today, i'm a student there and got in the car and came down and my sister told me she had a ticket and it was amazing. i love sarah palin and saw her on opera this week, it was phenomenal. >> do you have a lot of fellow students, at ohio state who also follow her and like her. >> yes, i'm part of the college republican's club and we have a strong following up there. >> what are you attracting to. >> i think she's a strong woman, like, a good family, like a great mom, and just a great, nice person. >> did she say anything to you. >> she said, it was wonderful, really nice to meet me and she's

glad i came from columbus, today. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> michael link... manager for joseph beth book sellers in cincinnati. we're about halfway through the sarah palin book signing, how is it going today. >> really well. you know, it is still very early in the tour, so just having them come in and get situated, and there is still i think a little, you know, working everything through, but the people are incredibly excited, and, they have been going right through there, a lot of people who are very, very passionate about sarah palin and so, it has been a remarkable experience. >> oh, i appreciate that. wow. >> thank you for everything you do. >> what is your name. >> thanks, nice to meet you. hi, how are you. nice 0 see you. thanks for being here. >> appreciate it so much. >> hello, sir, how are you. thank for you being here.

>> the book officially released this past tuesday, and the signing is today on friday. so, there was a couple of days in between, so they pre-ordered the book, by a voucher, actually for the book they could swap for the book and when they bought the book that ged a line letter, a, b, c, et cetera. and, so, we called people up in groups of 50 and they'd line up and allows people to browse the store and sit where they are comfortable and only actually stand in line for a very, relatively short period of time and bring them up in groups of 50 by letter and go through and get the books signed and shake sarah palin's hand and then, are free to shop or go home. this is certainly i think a unique situation as far as the national media goes, we are fairly familiar with all of our cincinnati media partners, but, the national media, network media, we have in quite a bit, and we are thrilled to welcome, as you say, german tv, canadian tv, and some of the network

entertainment programs, that have been following the sarah palin tour and of course, our good friends at c-span. >> finally for people who don't know joseph-beth book sellers, how could you describe it senate a regional book stop. began in lexington, and we're in lexington and cincinnati, and then, we, after the first couple of years, the women who started davis-kidd book sellers in memphis and nashville decided to retire, and their succession plan was to... kind of selling to bantam, the owner of the company and she expanded into cleveland, his home town and charlotte, and pittsburgh. so, 7 stores, 7 stores and, yeah, we focus on being regional book sellers. [inaudible conversations].

>> sarah palin served as a republican governor of alaska from 2006 to 2009. and, was a republican candidate for vice president in 2008. to find out more, visit facebook.com/sarah palin. >> deborah gordon in 2009 how main cars are on the road in the world today. >> just over a billion cars on the world's roads, not just cars, motor vehicles, cars, trucks, buses, lots of scooters and two wheel,in asia. on the road today. >> how many in the u.s. >> in the u.s., about 300,000. >> 300,000, 300 million? >> 300 million i'm sorry. >> is that too many? >> is it too many?

this is the issue, if we want... if what we have, mobility we have which is wonderful, if we want to replicate that to the world, we cannot do it the way... the world can't do it the way we've don't. in terms of oil, internal combustion, it is just, there is not going to be enough air, enough, in terms of climate change, enough oil, to do what we have done, for the growth toward 2 billion cars. >> has the world tried to emulate the u.s. >> it is at a crossroads, china, india and, brazil, russia, most of asia, are all following us. affluence has made more mobility which is wonderful, and the way has been gm going to china and saying, buy cars. so, we're at the crossroads where it could be conventional or really could be different. and that is a lot of what the book is about. >> when you say, there are 1 billion motor vehicles on the

world's roads today the title of your new book coauthored by daniel spurling says 2 billion cars. >> over the last 100 years, we have invented the car and fueled it with oil and have risen now to a billion. in the next 15 years, we expect to double that to 2 billion and that is the road we're on. it is incredibly fast. >> why? >> for the sake of affluence and mobility. and, right now the only technology we have for mobility is a motor vehicle. >> where is the growth, tro. >> the growth is in china, number one, india, number 2, brazil and russia, also, indonesia, rail, throughout asia, largely throughout asia, and in america we have over one car per person and we will be replacing our cars and that is a big question, what will we replace or cars with, with the 20 mile per gallon suv we own or

something really novel. >> is the american dream and the american car dream gone in your view? >> i think that the dinosaur vehicles we drive should be gone. i think mobility is not gone. we'll want to be as mobile as ever. but we'll have to think of far more creative ways to be mobile. in cars that get 80 or 100 miles per gallon, using our blackberries to hook us up with automatic car share services, using peratransit to pick us up where we have to go and e we are telecommuting and not traveling and when i wrote the book with dan spurling, i think we ended up getting together five times and there were not a lot of miles or airplane trips in the book and that is the type of productivity we have to think about? >> when it comes to transport and moving people? what is this solution. >> probably choice.

right now, we have no choice. if you want to go somewhere, you got here and drove presumably and if you want to go somewhere, 95% of the time you are driving and 98% of the energy moving you in that car is oil and we have no choice in vehicles and no choice in fuels. and that is the biggest problem, we have to really think about different types of cars that are more fuel efficient using different types of fuels, electricity and, you know, cellulosic biofuels and having different types of mobility options and it is not always a car, if you are old, young or disabled or injured or poor, you don't have a car. cars are not an option and that is a big part of the population here and everyone where in the world. so' we need to have much more creative, inventive differ run shated ways of moving ourselves around. >> in your book you talk about alternative fuels, former administration of president

bush, put a big investment into hydrogen. is that sustainable? >> hydrogen is a really interesting case, it always has been 25 years out, and when i started working in the field 20 years ago, it was 25 years out and today it is still 25 years out and hydrogen is in everything and finding it and getting it and it is very small, the smallest molecule an containing it an storing it is challenging and many of us think it could be the carrier ultimately but in the meantime we will have electric motors, electric vehicles, seeing plug in hybrids now and hybrid electric vehicles on the road and more and more work is going into liquid biofuels, not corn ethanol, that is what we have seen so far, not going to food and bringing it back to fuel, but grass and algae and garbage. that will be useful for truck, liquid fuels in trucks. >> is that 25 years out? >> no, that is closer in and the big part is the last 25 years of

cheap oil and we've had 25 years of stand still. we have not done much research, haven't, the oil industry, the auto industry, the government, hatch done that much, the economy was such that oil was very... and we had a bump last summer and people realized it might not be a stable, many of us have head for a long time oil could be any price, it is a global market and a confused market and an irrational market and, you know, caught up in wars and skirmishes and so the price could be anything looking ahead and that is what the -- gives the impetus for change. >> some of the energy crises that we faced in the country, this 1970s, 2008, have they improved our efficiency? has the marketplace responded? >> it is interesting to see at the moment of crisis back in 1973, and 1974 an 1978, and 1979

and last summer how quickly people respond to price, that is heartening to say there are price points where people will change their behavior, companies will actually change their products and the government will say this is actually a good thing and what happens in between has been the valley of death and in between the crises we have had plummets and the last 25 years a long floor on oil at $40 a barrel, $50 a barrel and now 1.85 at the pump, where there is no motivation to do anything. >> so, is it a... do we rely on the mark place in your view or should the u.s. government step in? should it be a global effort. >> i don't think we can rely on the mark place, the mark will not do it alone. it is too cyclical and very much caught up in the global market which is dysfunctional. so it will take government. it will take federal policy, policies that are going to have more efficiency built in,

alternative fuels, basic research, incentives for consumers. again, consumers are reacting to the prices they see. so when the price rose to $4 a gallon, that summer, everyone stepped away from suvs and trucks and now, in december, suvs and truck sales are back up. because the price is low and we'll need the government to stabilize, whether the price war on oil, and then fuel economy standards, it will take regulation, incentives, to change the behavior of consumers and corporations. >> how did you become a transportation analyst? >> i started out actually, very interesting, in alternative fuels during the second oil cries in college as a chemical engineer. and when i graduated from college, telling my age here, when i graduated from college, it was 1982 and the price of oil plummeted and every job, every exciting future oriented job i was interested in dried up overnight. and i ended up doing transportation, the energy side

of transportation policy, as opposed to alternative fuels because there was no market. and there has been no market, now, one big transformation could be energy companies instead of oil companies, and it's interesting we've heard little from exxon in this time when gm is, you know, in crisis. exxon is not really speaking up. and, i find that curious because they are the other side of the coin, the car and the oil, both sides now with transportation. so i'd like to see you energy companies, true energy companies, thinking beyond oil. >> you have worked with china. and is there a national policy on transportation in china that you think the u.s. two perhaps draw from? >> china actually adopted fuel economy standards a couple of years ago and are more stringent than america's, which tells you something, because we have our fuel economy standards from the first oil cries and they sat at a very low level, sat 27-and-a-half miles per gallon for cars and 20 miles for trucks

and they've just been raised after the price of oil spiked and already china is jumping in with its feet first and the reason, interestingly, china and i think india will both jump in ahead of america, on this is they don't have oil indigenous oil, either, like us they have a lot of coal and not oil and here you have the u.s., china, and india, the three, largest transportation oil consumer, us, and the two growing oil consumers, china and india, and they have some oil but don't have the oil that is going to really fuel the fleets they are imagining they'll have and that will create either tremendous political turmoil, on the downside or the upside, tremendous innovation and the hope is that america will be the innovator and will sell the world cars but that is left to be seen. it might just be china and india sell us their cars. >> everybody watching this is wondering, do you have a car?

>> i do have a car. and i have a car that i am breathing life into. it is 11 years old, it is hobbling along and i desperately want a very fuel efficient hybrid station wagon gone and they don't make one. >> you lived in southern california, in northern california and now here in charlottesville, virginia. are you able to get around on public transportation? >> not to get around here, this is a rural county, i was able to get around in public transportation in san francisco, and oakland and l.a., i walked a lot. where i lived and here it is reviewer and really, is not, you know, charlottesville is gorgeous but not, to my mind, the look of the most sustainable development patterns with large lots, so we have a beautiful large lot with trees but it is far away. and i try to combine trips and try... and i do telecommute and send a lot of time in front of

my computer at my desk which saves my daily commute but i would like to be more on foot and be closer in, eventually. >> down where the picture on the front of the book is taken? >> i believe, i need to check, i think that is the border crossing to mexico. >> and, who is your coauthor, daniel sperling. >> i have known him for 25 years, u-at uc davis and i spend so much time at berkeley with the union of concerned scientists, i know him very well and we five years ago met and decided we wanted to write a book like this, and, we did and like i say, got together very few times and wrote it all virtually, basically on, you know, the computer, back and forth, back and forth, and he now is on the california resources board poised to be able to really help regulate these policies in california, which we both argue, there is a chapter on california in the book, is ahead of the game in terms of pushing innovation and certainly, california is ahead of the u.s. in terms of thinking ahead.

the u.s. has been much slower, as a nation, compared to definitely all of the western european nations, much slower to innovate and much slower than california. >> and forward by governor schwarzenegger. >> yes. >> what does he say? >> governor schwarzenegger has been... it has been nice to get it to be a bipartisan message, for many years we talked about having the environment and the economy not being em battling, and don't... not pitted against each other and is good for the environment and economy when the environment is clean and the economy is working and in california, that has been a big issue, climate change is a huge issue and oil imports a huge issue for california and he says, listen, take heart in these messages because we need to think ahead and california hopefully will be the exporter of these technologies. >> deborah gordon, coauthor of 2 billion cars, driving toward sustainability. :