Skip to main content

tv   Book TV  CSPAN  February 6, 2010 12:30pm-1:59pm EST

12:30 pm
the end of 2011 it. they could renegotiate the agreed that, and maliki is made, he might want to do that. so we have that. people have taken even the iraq war withdrawal for granted. and i'm not sure we can, especially with the violence starting again. because with so much invested there. so i think, chuck is exactly right on that point, because in the vietnam war, when nixon came in he was a candidate i was going to get us out of vietnam. he started the being of his asian program. so i think just saying that, president just saying we're going to begin withdrawing in 2011, july 2011 from afghanistan, that quite a lot of the antiwar lessons who say problem solved. because we are eventually going to get out of here. i think chuck is exactly right on the. that doesn't mean we're going to
12:31 pm
withdraw from either these countries anytime soon i don't think. >> if i could say first though, i mean, let's be clear. congress authorized both of these wars. i mean, one may not like it, but in fact, they did do it and they haven't, they haven't repealed it. that authorization is there. i think of the president clinton's deployment to bosnia, which is also incidentally announced for a year. i went in with very significant force. there was no violence in that year. it was successful. and at the end of the year, the deployment continued with virtually no public opposition. and so what i imagine lies behind -- i think that president obama is sincere in what he is saying, the idea is that we bring in significant additional force, say to commerce omission as we did in bosnia. and then the situation is better
12:32 pm
and you hope you can withdraw. again, for the reasons i outlined, which are primarily, which have entirely to do with the absence of a credible local partner, i have reservations about the. on the issue of iraq, i certainly think that the withdrawal will go ahead. we never did have a strategic interest in iraq. and once we were there, of course we change things and so we do have some obligations. and i would think we would want to have at least the possibility of going back in if we have to do with al qaeda, sunni areas. and i've argued in the past and i still think it's true, that we have an obligation to the kurdistan which was on our side. it has been a reliable ally and an obligation can be discharged by a fairly minimal security commitment of the kind that we had from 1991 until 2003 with a no fly zone. >> okay. that is a. thanks for coming, and we're going to have lunch now.
12:33 pm
[applause] glen browder former u.s. congressman from alabama and artemesia stanberry, assistant professor at north carolina
12:34 pm
central university present a history of irish of cooperation in the efforts to advance civil rights. a former u.s. congressman from south carolina and eva clayton, former u.s. congresswoman from north carolina join the discussion that the national archives in washington, d.c., hosts the hour and 20 minute talk. >> the civil rights movement in this country crested a full century after the bloody civil war. and the subsequent constitution amendment outlawed slavery made the former slaves of united states citizens. and gave them the right to vote. but by the 1960s, african-americans have not yet seen the promise of these amendments realize. many counts of the civil rights moving of the 1950s and '60s have been written by distinguished journalist and historians as well as by its brave participants. tonight will have a different account. it's one that focuses on how
12:35 pm
white political leaders and black civil rights leaders work together quietly, away from you and legislative spotlights to change the way southern politics is conducted. a program will feature a lively discussion of this stealth reconstruction during the last decades of the 20 century. copies of the book under discussion tonight are available in the lobby after the program. cosponsors for this program are the i states association of former members of congress, the congressional black caucus foundation, a national archives african-american history society, and the boy state and university merit chapter of alpha kappa sorority. and i welcome it was up all those organizations here tonight. i also want to welcome c-span, one of our favorite visitors to programs here at the national archives. to moderate tonight's panel program, we're pleased to welcome michael.
12:36 pm
professor has been an analyst in congressional research service and u.s. commission on civil rights. is a regular contributor to the huffington post, has been published or quoted in a variety of print publications and has served as guest analyst on many radio and television public shows. at george mason school of public policy, he teaches american government, urban policy, civil rights policy, and the legislative process. he holds a bachelors degree from hampton university, master's and doctorate from howard university. he is a fourth generation washingtonian and lives in the city with his wife into. and i turn the program over to him. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you all very much for coming out this evening. we promise to give a very interesting discussion. and were going to touch on some things that i think, and i think you all will think will be quite interesting.
12:37 pm
as you know, this is a very distinguished panel, and if you don't know, i would like to introduce the members quickly. on the far right, former representative butler derrick from south carolina. former representative eva clayton from north carolina. former representative glen browder from alabama. and the most distinguished of them all,. [laughter] >> my former schoolmate, artemesia stanberry, on the faculty of nortel are essential university. please welcome them. [applause] >> so this evening we're here to talk about something called stealth reconstruction and how that helped supplement what was being done in the civil rights era, post-civil rights era, trying to move the ball forward, if you will. and so for the next hour or so we will probe this concept and talk in detail about the book
12:38 pm
and -- that describes all. at some point towards the top of the hour we will open it up for questions. there are microphones on each income and if you want to ask a court and at that time, i would ask you to do so from the microphones as they will be picked up by the national archives reporters and also by c-span, and they won't be able to hear it otherwise. before i do that though, i want to make one additional announcement. this coming saturday morning, at 830 on c-span, glen browder will be on discussing this book, "stealth reconstruction." so you can get a little taste now and aftertaste on saturday morning. also, and if i'm not speaking out school, i would also like to mention glen a happy birthday tomorrow. you shared birthday with an okay. and there's a bit of irony that we'll be talking about this topic at this time. so happy birthday. okay, so let's start from the
12:39 pm
beginning. i will start first with glen and artemesia. what are still policies? >> michael, still politics is essentially described as quiet, practical politics. it's the stealth politics that refer specifically to what we practice in the quiet practical of politics that we practice in the south. especially why politicians working with black leaders. obviously, it works the other way, too. black politicians historically have conducted quiet politics with white political leaders. but in this case, we narrow our definition to quite practical politics of the south, biracial transactions during the 1970s,
12:40 pm
80s, 90s. >> i know you agree with it for the most part, but are there any other aspects to stealth politics that we need to go by before we go forward? >> well, i think one of the key aspects of stealth politics is that these individuals are working towards a particular goal. in other words, the ball was given to them with regard to the judicial rulings, and are attended to institutionalize those events. and so i think it's important to understand it wasn't biracial politicians, biracial politics, for the purpose of just satisfying a few key people. it was for the purpose of institutionalizing some of the demand. >> okay. now, one of the things that i'm struck by is the fact that there was a need for stealth politics. so i want to ask you, glen, to lay out some of the context in
12:41 pm
which these politics were necessary, and why they were necessary. >> it was necessary because at that time, we -- a lot of southern politicians wanted to do things different. everybody in america knows about the high road, the civil rights movement of the 1950s and '60s. rosa parks, martin luther king, george wallace, that was a heroic clash between heroes and villains. well, a lot of us came along after that, or some of us came along after that, and we wanted to do things differently. we felt that we had to do things differently in order to deal with the problems of our region. but we could not do these things openly. for a white southern politician, and a black political leader to, you know, agree on -- to compromise. it we've gone out and held a
12:42 pm
news conference, or if there had been reporters there when we did that, it would have killed both of us. because whites in the south were not ready, generally, to endorse that. and the blacks leader, the black leaders supporters probably would not have appreciated him compromising or cutting deals with white politicians. so the setting of the '70s, 80s and 90s, unlike the he wrote, was a setting in which practical politics had to take center stage. >> so you're saying that's what the only way that things could have been than? >> yes. you all can read about in the '60s when there was some southern politicians went out and openly tried to be racial progressives. they try to openly bring together and black -- white and
12:43 pm
black constituents. and they got crushed. i was a political scientist for 10 years before i got into politics. but it doesn't take a phd to understand that if you tried that in the south in the '60s and even in the '70s, their career was going to be very limited. and you have to get elected in order to do some of these relatively aggressive things that you wanted done. >> not want to bring in butler and eva, and ask, is the lay of the land that glen just laid out in alabama similar? are you hearing some of the same things back in your own state's? >> well, i grew politically in north carolina, i am from the deep south. as a child and growing up, you grow and to kind of know your place. so what these kind of norms that
12:44 pm
we accepted been would not be tolerated now. but when i grew up in north carolina, as a politician, i think i didn't find the same resistance as glen has stated, but i am aware that in areas where we were, rural north carolina, it was unthinkable of having even a voter registration process. which is a logical piece. i was influenced by rosa parks, too, by direct action. particularly in nortel and we had the sentence which motivated us. but because i had myself a little earlier been influenced by quakers who were logical and regional, i've got a voter registration project would be something that north carolina would tolerate. but actually, there was such a violent reaction to that, the
12:45 pm
different reaction i had was that you had to be more direct. they wouldn't accept, you know, the kind of normal voter registration education project. so the savings became more of a tool for that. but i'm aware there were whites then who knew that something needed to be done. and they were released to that piece. now, i think i have problems with -- glen, i had problems with the words still. i thought of it as in negative terms as devious, a little coward. you know, a little unworthy. but you think of it positive as you said, logical. but even in quite, practical, logical we found that was difficult. so even when and blacks try to reason together, there was resistance. and that sometimes forced a more
12:46 pm
direct peace. because you couldn't reason together. you have to almost clash in making things happen. so i think the book makes an excellent read, and it certainly makes us reflect. reflect, how those in society, other people, other than the villains and heroes, how you take an unacceptable idea and normalize it means that average people have to begin to see how they fit into that puzzle. >> okay, and about her? >> well, i come from south carolina, rural county that has a reputation of being the most segregated and probably the most violent county may be in the south after the civil war. and during reconstruction. it's the home of pitchfork men, probably the most racist. and home of the strom thurmond, and races, at least in the
12:47 pm
beginning of his career. i think the main problem was with the white people, and i to stand, that eva said something needed to be done. but they were scared to death of their peers. they were scared to death of their peers. they were scared into coffee shops shops in the mornings and whatnot, and i visited them for 20 years to say something positive about the situation going forward. i experts that. when i got into politics, to give you some personal experiences, i was the first in my county, and it seems stupid now, to go around and to go into lack homes and shake their hands, ask them for their vote. i fired the secretary in my office because she refused to
12:48 pm
put mr. and mrs. in the front of an african-american name. and i remember very much one afternoon i was sitting in my office, it was a rainy afternoon. this good friend of mine, a well-educated african-american preacher came in, and we were talking. and he said, you know bubba, you must understand how we feel. he said, if i were to -- if i were to go out on that street and i were to fall down on the street, a cop would come over and he would be me with his billy a couple times and say just just another drugmaker. and said they would let me live there that i they would tony angelo upon a day or two later they would bother to find out if there's anything really wrong with me. but if you walk out there and you fell on the street, they would call an ambulance just
12:49 pm
like that. i went into politics in the state legislature in the late 60s, and i campaigned and met with african-americans and other support. i had to be very careful about because there was still that, you know, that racism baiting out there. whether you like it. and still to a certain degree. and i had to step lightly. towards the end of my congressional career, a black woman told me something that i will never forget. it was custom to have the politicians meet with a white folks and meet with a black folks in different terms. and i was doing that, and i was having a meeting with a lot of
12:50 pm
my black supporters. and this woman stood up and said, congressman, said, why aren't we meeting together with the white folk? and you know, it bowled me over, but i learned so much from the. and i think we, as we move along, and i think, you know, i will be quiet in a minute, but i think that era from 1970, 1965 forward after the voting rights act, was probably the most important period in the history of the south. in bringing the two races together. because as you just pointed out in your remarks, we all know about martin luther and we don't want to take any thing away from those icons, but the real ditch digging and the real work, and the real skills on balance i think we found in the period that glen has written about. >> if i met respond to something
12:51 pm
that eva said about the word struggle. we struggle with that because you can have negative connotations that the word itself indicates, connotes something possibly bad. but we picked it because we look in the dictionary, and it is an air force technology designed to develop a plain back and fly i noticed. and the best, i guess i will introduce a word that is common in the literature. depressurization. essentially that is what we did. what separated the stealth or the politicians i'm talking about from traditional politicians is that we are conscious of freaks. we weren't colorblind. but we build raise into the debate in a positive way. i will give one -- one example. when i was secretary of state,
12:52 pm
there was a federal court order that said we've had it with you, alabama, you haven't appointed black poll workers. you just haven't made any progress. and they threaten to hold the governor and the attorney general in contempt. i was a new secretary of state with good ties to the black community and the white community. and we talked to the judge, and enter the case over to me. what i did, i was a good, clean elections politician. we started pitching -- we never mention federal government forcing us to do this, something else. we pitched it that we needed clean and open and honest and efficient elections. and i pulled the local probate judges and county officials who had ignored previous orders together, and we worked with the black organizations, political organizations. to supply new black poll workers. and we sold it, sold it publicly
12:53 pm
as an effort to have better, cleaner, more efficient elections. and the new pages of the state just grab it and ran with it. we were so successful in getting those local officials to do with these black poll workers, that they've never dealt with before, that the judge ended up clearing alabama and releasing the governor and the attorney general from possibility of criminal action. >> i want to pick up on something that you just head on, and also that butler mentioned. and that's important of the voting rights act. it seems to me, and i'm happy to be corrected on this, that the overwhelming influx of new black voters forced some of this stealth politics that you're talking about. i just want to toss this out to anyone who wants to do with a.
12:54 pm
was that your recollection or your belief about the impact of the voting rights act in that regard? or is there some other impetus for moving the south in that direction? >> i'll answer it as a non-practicing politician at that time, and then my answer is, i have to answer this in my way because there's a black politician in the audience and he says he have to bring in what we learned. and that is, with regard to the voting rights act of 65. you asked the question of was this the only way. and as you know the 1960s were very turbulent. you had assassinations of robert kennedy, john f. kennedy, dr. king, malcolm x, and many others. but you also had many successes that you had the voting rights act of 65, civil rights activist 64, which is a phenomenal piece of legislation. you had to open housing act. there are many other positives. but you also had the election in
12:55 pm
19 city and there's a recognition that these rise industries, these constant protest, how sustainable would that be. and even african-americans had a convention in gary, indiana, to figure out where to go from here? a when you ask the impact of the voting rights of 1955, i think that definitely had an impact. you had new voters think that maybe we will attempt to work within a system, if we have politician to working within the. and thus we have fred gray, the richard arrington's, who were saying okay, we have these politicians who are responding to these new voters, let's see what we can do to sort of move this idea for. and that's what i would like to add, but they would have to discuss how 25 -- we're talking a politician who had a significant number of black voters in her district. majority of white, but a significant number of black voters. the votes did make a difference,
12:56 pm
because you know, you had people who said that they would never pay a black road, into a black people got to go, they started dating the black roads. spect well, let me just underscore that quickly by saying, in some of these districts when you had significant numbers of black people in your district who were disenfranchised, you could ignore them. the voting rights act change that and made it far more difficult to do. >> you know, i'm not sure the voting rights act change that. in, there's a good argument to be made, and i made no conclusion on it, but south carolina is an example. we have one of the brightest congressman in the congress, jim clyburn, who is african-american. however, he has a district that was gerrymandered and made specifically from minority candidate, to do that. they had to pull minority
12:57 pm
members at other districts to do that. now, those in the other districts now don't have the pressure in some instances to listen to their black constituents that they had before. and i'm sure jim, and you know, i certainly understand wanting to have your own people in these things. but there is a strong argument there about one of the things are better or not. i guess t are. >> i want to respond both ends of the question. prior to this redistricting, there was a significant member of african-americans and district that white politicians constantly ignored. when we moved to our county, icann has always been the majority of black community. there was not one single elected black officials that they have always had more than 60%. and we moved there after.
12:58 pm
i was foolish enough to run for congress in 1960, young. i am now mature. [laughter] >> but i remember part of the reason for wanting to do that is to bring a voter registration up. i lost were really. he was the congressperson. and that was the second district. so when i ran my first time, which had about at the time about 15 to 18% registration. and actually, it was he who sought to run in the south and i was the one who agree to do it. they wanted my husband. and he said he couldn't afford to leave his law practice. so i ran. but in losing, we also raised
12:59 pm
the voter registration fees, and people began to see some opportunity in doing that. fast forward now to 1990, they had the redistricting that you were speaking about. because the voter rights act had failed in turning to motivate white elected officials to have fair representation. and so they found a way to give those opportunities, you were the majority then, they found a way of getting these cluster of minorities, give them opportunity. maybe there is a better way. . .
1:00 pm
jackie robinson's number 42 decorates every major league stadium, an appropriate tribute to the man who changed the face of baseball wherever it was played. while robinson tmost visible step, many unsung pioneers followed in wake bl
1:01 pm
storteve jacobson gend basl there could be no debate -- jackie robinson deserves to be mention in the same breath as history's greatest pioneers. his legacy is one that simply of integrated sports, but of changing the mindset of an entire nation. now many other athletes contributed to that legacy -- and too often, their stories go untold.
1:02 pm
but writer steve jacobson brings to life the other names who helped pave the way from the negro l to sion basen th '60s, in carrying jackson's torch, jacobson plays tribute to the black men who endured and sack sacrificed so much but neverrifi their ja d your book, t abot feel then >> well this -- som bef theninge hav understand and i don't think a lot of young people know it now. if you grew up white in new york, you didn't understand how difficult it was to be black in the south in america or black anywhere in america in some of thees lik buck
1:03 pm
o'ne t bei in na thay anygd mber - war iiwas ansp onil g p of war vinwor nsass of w ofhe bla sail therisof ereorced to i back of thetr >> fhete baseball wo ugh asar perg o thefi lt the black baseball fiehen ado on the field, did youd i muc m icul was the thihey were used
1:04 pm
organization behin t blac w t miaguehaps 18 y daybecamea tive integratedh school. o the minor open the door once jackie went through. america tried very hard to push it closed. goes from oakland, california where hed o anegra ameregio it's the second s he had ve gooear. sa, g f the . sti -hea theyheirhes, the nhe ihe ofbhou the use ant w ingh tavean ormse seame. sshey o
1:05 pm
orm. flo the un the goes to sit down. by law, he has a separat ti u k ht in a isumm thbhou ant com by as al it goeough a o clotth trt pan ayson'tuts iith evy el he calls a black taxi to t t t a bla black section of t orms to come back clean the meanwhilod i ttinhis tf th oor schack until the second game of the double-header. an indignity like that through all their experiences. [ male announcer ] chocolates?
1:06 pm
1:07 pm
...or diamonds? ...chocolates? ...or diamonds? give her both with this exclusive helzberg box of chocolates and diamond heart pendant for just $129.99. because you're loved. helzberg diamonds.
1:08 pm
steve jacobson began covering sports by 1960. by that time, african-american ball players entrenched themselves with baseball's elite with players such as ernie banks, willie may, and hank aaron winning gold glove a a a ernie's all-star appearances. but while black talent could no longer be denied, at least in conversation, the fight for basic respect was still very much alive.
1:09 pm
robinson le t h ititit it probablyelpeern fe. but ther plaho c the tt talent but didn't want p with theabus onhe that vere frowats andsertasant him, were t said to heck and he said eddiey's char was -- was supposed to be a real hitter in this -- they talked about him in the houston organization when he was growing up. and eddie said he was the best playayayn the family. and one brother played with the giants, eddie murrays hame. andharl saideck this. i'm home
1:10 pm
told stories about unpleasant it oinggh ds whrow oneshemg h a ngang back to es tere s in an so somort of pn. theingy w f thnts up h saion't you t --y y nt to nig and i hiain. whaut l by? lby little? i think the pressure went on -- jackie broke in at 1947 and bob gibson was with the cardinals in the early '60s whenhe m n th pitcher'sng, wotrth cope with the brain session
1:11 pm
of the pitchers. gibson was strong, a good pitcher. he overcame a lot of that. well in to the 1960s for nearly 20 years after robinson, that ry t p werie eemstalk aboutt in book? w it. he tther ares it anymore. who hav en tst b o een t the ame out and went private, but he wouldn't talk about it either. and other players, like mauries will said nobody asked me those things before. he was very interesting. the different shadings, i u
1:12 pm
thatdeli leagues a toexpl t t thawas fro that he was looking to house a black man and theyted ve gone with him. >> robinson did as or but by writing this book, jacobson wanted to do more than just help jackie's legacy. he wanted to make sure we'd never lose sight of how much the black athletessss truly had to ov. n ysear ink jac toper that fight anding buse l
1:13 pm
a kurood? how e >>kiebvio or pers may hav er igues atme,ausee wall an he had been in college. he had been a star. he played for 100,000 people in college. beehe armyeen co hearria stlack n. he had all ofhe advantages ad the strength to withstand a lot of pressure because he ywa ckie wha todo. anuys who cam r, jac an d b tolen
1:14 pm
things were really unpleasant, they thought what would jackson do?
1:15 pm
in 1977, in johannesburg, uth , yearoy ed ugamelf hisr. by e oe wa alrutplhim. th of entl ng tior chamips e ag4? fn 16on. dds t sa akino th feurpro-tour fn 7 n.
1:16 pm
th of e "sy" g opepionnce and the u.s. chship? 780ion. e o rofel goavin a ciagnith ? 1 in erls eges tn ths ofm tism.org new york city is thi ball
1:17 pm
players, but they did so outs of ttlighist ch a. ingn nk ci ubs. and ple expe rawfr st w dirs ying kno fla you all bookook m ond y see ofaless
1:18 pm
ndanas on the experienced the hardship of t black ath >> a lot of people hav tal about, heard aboheblems at t the ricaicante h uph in ball. color baruge tory o united stat you hear muchut ball. you'rsold. yokut. ball yea itn black o pne the
1:19 pm
same stuff that the baseball l players did? >> definitely. >> tel h 37, 36, 37, coming out of high school downtown manhattan, dolly came up at thetime our time d r w fteenough. what was available sn'tailable. well, sch avai for african-americans ime y werwn ascolored. so red was a go t id y a id,well, i could eventually g nyu? yeahyork oyed.
1:20 pm
travel thesticum of $150 permo >> w put the that the when you played ll. y frip withhe nais welaye do. and at tha time, youn ing. bun w dec t am w g head so i i ionceeft ingtc.,nnn you're heading in to virginia, that's where you're heading, in to the cotton curtain. and i said my firstxper t knoxville. so, wet fro paf a tic
1:21 pm
enire a wi he w beh just likehh hisrms. m $1ill a a a a mailed it a hav a lant ge ease wer sgg hi the student and i were g. - look back, instead, $ it w i'm. i was in new york. and i said, tho i she what didididid you sy? i saidse me d i loo lioy lt jke so of my meou're sking . ll ythnd not?all, he w hav thenty p,e yht to the fl and you, first of all,
1:22 pm
en tng was that stu your tri al s theoney o wainin -- who was ht it yearsrsrsu de later when bacp
1:23 pm
1:24 pm
1:25 pm
some said that the renaissance played better basketball than any squad he'd ever seen. that man was hoops legend john wooden and the record bears out his observation. the team once ran off 88 wins in a row. and in 1989 won the tournament in chicago. joni isaacs recognized that those on the court were fleeting, able to be overshadowed by a defeat the next time out. his was the respect is hels it. >> jackets in 39, you cut off the color to jackson's here
1:26 pm
on ackew york cochampi they didn't -hey put d wo over and the w d. we went b way it hanging my ba said put my j j jt onse. he put my i sar. douglas, do you have
1:27 pm
zor that ? saiboy? he som id t soeave m theazor ade, le-edged gi. ient outside. jac. tighthrou the colo gh. were blocklett threm a a a a inhestre doing? you'rening sa noaking it little bit more real. i said we just get through winning w cond world professionaltball re o long list of courageous men and women
1:28 pm
pat he helped forge, one month isot nearly enough to spend remembering and celebrating them all the way they deserve. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com the images from haiti are heart-breaking-- homes, hospitals, and schools destroyed; families searching for loved ones; parents trying to feed their children. but we can all do something. we can help the american red cross as it delivers the food, water, and medicine that can save lives. donate $10 by texting "haiti" to 9-0-9-9-9. visit redcross.org or call 1-800-red-cross. thanks for your help.
1:29 pm
1:30 pm
1:31 pm
the sec men's basketball tournament. kentucky and vanderbilt with matching six ask one records in the league. and tennessee is five and two. and florida having won five of its last six with a five and three mark in the sec east. we bring this up because three of the top four teams in scoring offense in the league under that division. offense, the topic as we tip things off. >> yes. the object of the game putting the ball in the basket. here is a look at points per possession. this is what i like to look at. just looking at points per
1:32 pm
game, it can get skewed this sm times. the pace of play comes into it. like florida is ninth in the league. but they're second in offensive and points per possession. they have always been a phenomenal offensive team. billy donovan does a great job. you can see vanderbilt here scoring nearly one point per possession. excellent phonesive club can beat new a lot of ways. kentucky right there near the top in offense. a great offensive team as well. and john wall makes it happen. the trigger man from wildcats offense playing the point guard position as a freshman. and the expeer becoming better defensively and he handles it for the wildcats. >> two days ago 11 final finalists were announced for the bob kuzy award. freshman john wall is one of them. fourth in scoring and third in
1:33 pm
steals. kentucky 21 and 1. they turn the corner into february. seven games this month including our late game, today on sec network. how tough is the road from here on out? >> gets really tough. bam wam at home and tennessee at lsu. then, it gets nasty. four out of five on the road w this young club, it will be trog see how they handled that at starville in nashville. home against south carolina. then at tennessee a top 15 club. they wrap that up at georgia. that will be a difficult stretch. we'll see how the wildcats handle that. >> there is still one more to go against fla as well that. is turning out to be a pretty interesting game at the end of the season. still to come, deafen downey highlights. if you've not seen the guy play, you should stick around. it's tip off on the sec network.
1:34 pm
1:35 pm
today's sec network game is brought to you by giko. 5 minutes can save you on car insurance z by champion. it's how you play. back on sec tip off. a look at the west division standings now. a log jam. four teams have four wins. arkansas have won three straight to get to that position. mississippi state dropped three of the last four and
1:36 pm
have allowed to the field to get back into it. bull dogs in gainsville with gators today that. is where bob wenzel checks in. >> thank you, rick. mississippi state and florida what do we expect in this game? we've got the nation's leading shot blocker in jar advice varnado. and on florida side we have cardiac kids. last two games, one-point ghai. lost to tennessee ask won at alabama. so this game is going to be very, very exciting. we've got two stars in this game. the big guy is jar advice varnado. second all time in the ncaa and irving walker smallest guy on the floor. 55% from three-point range. how are things out there in fayetteville? >> key match up here today in fayetteville with two point guards there is 72 points,
1:37 pm
he's a jet up and down the floor. matched up today against senor point guard for auburn tigers dwyane reed. two players going head to head should be fun to watch. we'll check it out here in just a little bit in bud walton arena. back to you. >> guys thanks. those are the two early games on sec network. here is the rest of the schedule. kentucky at lsa 4:00 eastern, 3:00 central. alabama taking on ole miss. south carolina at number 14, tennessee and vanderbilt have to go on the road to take on georgia. and one of the brait stories this year has been devon downey of south carolina. he's five nine, and pretty much singlehandedly beat kentucky last week. the game cocks taking on tennessee today as you saw. when downey gets it going as he did against kentucky phenomenal. how do you storm down? >> you try to stay in front of
1:38 pm
him. make and take contested shots. then, you can't go and help so much. that his teammates get on the offensive back boards and kill with you rebounding. he's a nightmare with his quickness and ball-handling ability asks toughness just makes shots when he has to. it's unbelievable what he's doing for game cocks. >> leads in core scoring and sixth in the country. leads in steals. and tied for sixth in played threes per game. he's a tough, tough guard. volume run tears won after losing two in a row. wayne chism nice game thursday night. >> and tennessee contending in the sec east. only two losses for the ball. they're used to being at or near the top in the sec east. we'll see if they can keep it going and have done a nice job producing points around the basket. he's their key guy inside.
1:39 pm
rebounding and scoring. they have to get big performances from him. we take a look at the next five games, four of the next five on the road is where they host south carolina today. this is a critical stretch for the ball to. win today, then, taking care of business on the road. >> and south carolina has beaten cut kentucky this year, florida will get volunteers at the o dome. on the topic of georgia. number 20, vanderbilt better be aware today. facing bull dogs that have been tough on that building. two reason yz we say this every week. florida -- georgia is a better team than the record would indicate. >> they do a great job getting the ball around the baskets and there is less by ben traiting into the lane.
1:40 pm
and there have travis leslie was one of the most exciting players in the sec. seems like he has a real dunk or two n this series there is home team win owe more often than not. as we take a look at vanderbilt. steel maig outstanding basketball for the commodores. vabder built playing well lately. outstanding offensively thech have to pick it up at the defensive end of the court doing a better job pulling teams down there. but with ogilve scoring inside, they're tough to handle phonesively. >> they've been prolific this year. they seed leed in shooting and second from downtown. they're third in scoring adding up to a six and one mark in southeastern conference play. in just minutes some of you
1:41 pm
will see mississippi state at florida on the network. and uf won five of six, and the freshman has been outstanding. others will see auburn take on arkansas. tigers coming off a win over alabama last week. dwyane read and company are standing by. more from our studio in just a moment.
1:42 pm
sec football university of
1:43 pm
florida wraps up nashville signing day. alabama and auburn, third and fourth respectively, landing 33 of the uspn-u top 150. auburn and arkansas one of the early games today, giving me keys to that game, barry. >> i think the point guard match up is going to be the interesting thing in this game. dwyane reed got to keep courtney fordson from shooting in that game. >> arkansas surging in the west. florida surges in the east taking on mississippi state. who has been slumping. a key to that game. >> and bob wenzel mentioned, three-point shooting going to be key z there is seven three pointers per game. mississippi state shooting more threes. we'll have to watch today. >> we'll be here at half time with scoring updates throughout the afternoon. coming up on sec network some of you heading for gainsville against top shot blocker in the league jar advice varnado and the tippoff is 1:47
1:44 pm
eastern time. same time, sh auburn and arkansas. can the hogs maintain their hot streak? barry and i back here at half time. on the sec network.
1:45 pm
welcome to the here in gainsville.
1:46 pm
today, two schools in season. in a bubble. it's mississippi state and the florida gators. and florida they're in the middle of the pack in the sev east. top three in the east, kentucky, vanderbilt and tennessee all holding steady. out west, mississippi state finding themselves in a surprising tie with the arkansas razor backs. and arkansas playing auburn as we speak. so glad you can join us here in gainsville. with bob wenzel, i'm eric collins thchl is the first weekend in february. two team was a lot of potential. and they've got to start going now. >> there is no doubt about that. goting is going to be shot blocking on the part of mississippi state. we've got jarvis varnado trying to reign three threes against florida florida have been in two one-point games. lost at tennessee. won at alabama this, is going
1:47 pm
to be very, very exciting. >> and there is a lot of big names taking a look at the long and short of it. >> indeed, jarvis varnado, erving walker, that is just astonishing. >> and seems to have taken a look at starting line ups, mississippi, congratulations to barry stewart and jarvis varnado. it's a new mississippi state record. and for florida gators have won five of the last six games. they're playing great basketball. and there is ssec can be categorized by close gaichls i expect one is going to be that right. there is florida has been in
1:48 pm
tight games every game. and there is a lot of entense ti, here. mississippi state gets inside, and over, varnado, misses this side. >> there is is very unusual rg he's got great confidence for a freshman here. throwing 36% for three. and he's got that foul on the jump shot attempt. he's go to the free throw line. take a look at the florida starting line up. there is good front wall. and erving walker is very wet
1:49 pm
behind the ears in the back court. >> he didn't play point guard last year. and there is explosive and there is a score, with johnson with a couple three throws. and a tidy two.. >> here is gainsville, florida. this is one stop against florida in last years. full court pressure on the part of the gators right here, trying to turn the mississippi state team with their primary ball handler. they'll try to wear him down. there is mississippi state won their first road game.
1:50 pm
there is three consecutives on the road. >> they're a team making so much use of the three-point shot. now what does that mean? most in the secz that is a result when you're on the road as well. they've got to stand on the inside game z trying to do that early in the game. there is a left handed lay up. johnson has all three points for bull dog autos he's their leading scorer. >> normally an outside shooting threat of the year. he slides behind the zone. and it's out of bounds. there is chandler parks. >> you look to the weak zone, nobody is here, there is an easy one. >> there sit for back court.
1:51 pm
there is a shoots for a jumper. >> get out of here. >> oh, my goodness. >> we talked about how they rained down threes in their last game against vanderbilt. >> they make nine a game. when it's not going they have some typical when it is going, they're hard to catch. >> along the base line. and can't get it. knocks it up. >> this time doesn't use the window. and there is kodi augustus is
1:52 pm
a flor plan. he knocked this one off the glass. this guy is not shy. >> there is a lot of defense on the play. >> and there is a where it comes up a little bit. rebound, johnson. interest is three shots in a row. >> and this is offense, out to walker. >> one of the things is that he's doing a lot of ball games in florida these days. >> there is a call for a foul with a rebound. he's going to get pulled with a push. there is rick stansbury.
1:53 pm
and billy donovan coached his second longest tenure than rick stansbury. >> the winnest coaches in the history of their university. both. >> legal extreme called on kodi augustus. it's going to be florida basketball. there is three nitsx also in, 2000 they went to final four. >> there is back on the screen. nice steal. there is a pass. >> i tell you that right side against the zone ends in the fast break has been something
1:54 pm
florida is not guarding particularly well. getting back slowly on that transition. >> there is johnson already with a half dozen points four minutes into into this one. >> there is very nicely done. doing a good job before it gets the ball positioning. >> he doesn't have to deal with the shot blocking. >> there is where they look down over the rebound. there is the here yes of several games this year. clubs player.
1:55 pm
six-time, 210 free man oo. this is where florida has been struggling playing man to man. third reporter of the ball game taken by augustus. >> you can fall in love with the three and get jilted very easily if they're not going down. >> now, augustus is going to be called for the foul. so there is two fouls on augustus now. >> mississippi state getting off to a running state right here. tough there. bernardo doing a great job, of course. >> in every aspect of the game so far.
1:56 pm
1:57 pm
>> welcome back here in gainsville, florida there is miss miss state, the soap opera has has become varnado
1:58 pm
and friday, mississippi state accepting ncaa findings considering his starting to begin the reinstatement process. remember, all american possibly the most heralded recruit ever at mississippi state. and mississippi state seeking their reinstatement. there is a chance he can be playing by the end of the year. >> we talked before the game about this and problem is because of the situation, if he comes in, he's six ten, 280 and how much he can play in the season remains to be seen.
1:59 pm
is the first time today for the gators wearing number 33 in white. and number 21 dan werner. there is father, jay was fantastic at boft yoj college eagle back in the 80s. >> and koti augustus is out of the game right now, and varnado is going have to do work. >> and mississippi state welcomes phil turner into the game. >> interesting thing about turner is that turner is only sixty-three, but plays like he's about six seven. he's an excellent rebounder, averaging five per game. and very experienced guy

323 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on