affordable option for every person, and taking on the abusive practices of private insurance companies. that rate increase in california was outrageous and certainly can't justify that with the type of profits that company was making, and i think you confined at the end of the day if we can get health care done, we will have major reform in the private insurance market place of those types of practices cannot take place. the acorn issue is -- of course, baltimore had a role to play in all of that. the bottom line is that the person who did the video recordings broke laws and i think that person will be held accountable. host: your colleague orrin hatch has an op ed saying we should start from scratch, that really the process on healthcare should be started from the beginning. republican senator from utah, what do you think? guest: we have a been talking about for decades, taking small steps or finding something everybody can agree on even though it is small or minor.

the bottom line is, it is time america takes on the cost issue and take on access to care so every american has access to affordable care. we are the only industrial nation in the world that does not have a plan where everyone is guaranteed access to affordable care. we spent much more than any other nation. it is making our economy not as competitive. it is time to take on this issue. we are very close to the finish line host: glenn, a republican line, wichita, kansas. caller: good morning. i have a couple of points -- a question mostly. the point i want to make is, with the economy being what it is and expenses going up all the time, this is a real complex issue -- talking about the health care, talking about the

pharmaceutical companies, talking about -- each state has its own health care system set up now. i would like to say -- see them put this on the back burner for a while. don't take it off the table. put it on the back burner and let the economy get rolling it did before we bring it back again. guest: of we are convinced that by getting health care cost under control it will help the economy, save jobs. right now many companies have to choose between playing insurance premiums and keeping people employed. small-business owners can't afford to hire new employees because they have to pay these ever increasing health care costs. we have to deal with the realities of our health-care system. i agree with you, it is not easy. i want to make sure we get it right. that is why we have taken time. all of 2009 and in 2010. this has been an active debate =ujt last year and it has been

under debate now for the last 40 years how to get all americans covered by health insurance. this issue has been around for a long time. i think we have the right plan. is it perfect? nope. but i think we got to believe -- move forward, deal with cost issues, and i think we have the best proposal moving forward. host: democratic caller, dennis, in new york state. caller: nice to speak to you. i like c-span, because i did not i would have to leave a message for you instead. i have a way to get a single payer public option. on the website,www.democ ratz.org -- democrats with a z. nobód6 -- people need to take their political fight to some of the companies that give money to conservatives.

for example, for the single payer public option, although what page -- host: adjusted to the point of your content. caller: people are going to boycott write it corp., a conservative contributor, inveterate one, and they are going to e-mail from that position -- people are going to boycott rite-aid. either you will give us a single payer public optionç or we refe to buy from you. the weakness for the conservative movement is the cash registers of those a give them money. guest: i agree with the caller, i am for a strong public option. fcess as compromising but not the principles. if you take a look at the provisions of the senate bill you will find many of the goals of the public option are incorporated in that legislation. much more competition, many more

restrictions on what private insurance companies can do, subsidies to help low-wage workers to be able to afford health insurance, more opportunities for small companies and individuals entering the marketplace, guaranteed products available for everyone so you will have choice. so those who have been advocating for the public option, they have had a major t(impact on the bill being considered in congress and if we can get the senate bill with the modification the president talked about enacted into law, i think you will be pleased with a framework in bringing down health-care cost of making sure there is a plan available for every person in this country. host: let's go to maine, where ben as on the independent line. caller: senator cardin, thank you, and i want to let you know as a person who seems to have no voice, i want to let you know i feel you are doing the right thing. again, thank you.

guest: thank you for the comments. this is certainly an issue that has been around for awhile, time to get it done right. pete host: howard, a republican line from california. caller: good morning, senator. can you give me a quick explanation of what you mean as the public option, and then i have a follow-up question. guest: the public option as originally proposed means there would be a plan that would be sponsored by the government -- it would not be subsidized by the government. it would be a plan where the premiums would pay the full cost. but it would not depend upon private profit motive. it would have a guaranteed benefit. it would be here forever. you don't have to worry about a private insurance company leaving the market. it would be here and be a reliable plan, and affordable plan, and would be a comparison between what is available to the

public sector versus private competition. it gives you a guaranteed product. much of that has been incorporated into the bills moving forward. in the senate bill, there are certain benefits every private insurance company will have to offer. there are exchanges either sponsored by the state or region that will give you different there are provisions in the public option that have been incorporated into the senate bill. the one that the president's -- president has indicated the way he would like to proceed. but a true public option is similar to medicare, where it is sponsored by the government, the premiums -- have a -- how to pay for it is in for private insurance. caller: is medicare doing fine financially? we go back to the great society

and the war on povertyç in -- d these social issues that the democrats seem to ask for, and my only question as a conservative is basically how are you going to pay for it? excuse me -- we all understand we want the best for every american. we don't want poor people going into emergency rooms and bringing up the bill for everyone else. pulling the wagon instead of in the wagon. host: i will go to the senator -- guest: i wanted to make the point on medicare which is a public insurance option, and we have private insurance. same doctors and hospitals, private doctors and hospitals. the same quality. the question is how you pay for it. medicare has been successful in helping to keep down the cost of health care for our seniors. you can't bring down the cost of

medicare until you bring the cost of health care in this country. that is why the president is right to focus on health care reform by saying, the principal objective is to bring down the growth of -- cost of health care. if you do that, medicare will be on a sounder financial footing and part of the bill reduces some of the growth of a cost of medicare as we bring down health-care costs. host:

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mr. durbin: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from illinois. mr. durbin: ask the quorum call be suspended and consent to speak in morning bits bis. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. durbin: last week i joined sherrod brown on a trip to south africa. we went to tanzania, congo,

ethiopia and sudan. we went there to observe american development assistance, to look at programs that help with victims of h.i.v. and aids, tuberculosis, malaria, child and maternal mortality, victims of sexual violence, clean water, sanitation issues, democracy, governance, refugees. in a matter of six days traveling on the continent of africa, senator brown and i didn't have much time to ourselves but we weren't planning any. we spent a lot of time meeting with people, meeting with government officials, meeting with individuals who are part of the current political environment of africa but also touched many of -- many of their lives are touched by programs that the united states is involved in. i couldn't help but notice as i traveled the extraordinarily dedicated americans who are in our foreign service. many of them are posted in places around the world that are not glamorous, by any means.

their jobs are hard and sometimes dangerous and they go to work every day without complaint. we really need to tip our hats to them as americans. let me add, there are peace corps volunteers and many who work for the nongovernment organizations, the n.g.o.'s. many americans serve our best interests around the world every day without fanfare or praise. we went to tanzania. in malanza in tanzania, we encountered a group of young baylor university doctors who are doing part of their residency at a regional hospit hospital, one that serves a population of several million people. can you imagine one hospital serving that many people? that's what people are up against in africa. we met a representative from abbott labs from my home state of illinois who was there helping to build a modern laboratory and train local staff for the hospital. in a small rural village just several hours down a dusty,

bumpy road from the nearest ci city, we witnessed a program by the nongovernmental organization "care" that helped build a rudimentary but critically important health clinic. it's hard to describe this to an american what an african would call a health clinic. it is, in fact, a building without windows but with openings for air to flow throu through. it is a building that is so basic that it doesn't have running water or electricity, but it is, in fact, a building where 168 babies were born last year. when you see this and meet the people who are delivering the babies, you realize that in many parts of africa, health care is very, very basic. the man who runs this clinic has about a year or two of education beyond high school, and the woman who serves him is one who

is gifted with not only personal skills but a lot of human experience in delivering babies. what happens if there's a complication in the middle of this village, in the middle of nowhere, with no means of communication? well, they try to get the message to the man who runs the ambulance. the ambulance in yuanza is a tricycle, a tricycle with a flatbed on the back. and they take a woman who is needing a caesarean section, for example, put her on the back of this tro tricycle and take her f to a four-hour trip to the nearest hospital. that is maternal and child care in africa, in tanzania. we are trying to help through the organization "care" that i mentioned earlier. with their help, they've not only brought them the money necessary for their ambulance,

this tricycle, they've helped the local residents develop a savings and loan, where their modest earnings that they make by selling agricultural produce are banked away for a better d day. they're allowed to borrow small units of money for buying sewing machines which can just dramatically change a life in these poor villages, or livestock or to help to pay for their kids to go to school. in tanzania as a whole, the pepfar program, which is the united states bi lateral program for hiv-aids, tuberculosis and malaria, and the global fund program, a much larger undertaking from many other countries, have made real progress on h.i.v., t.b. and malaria. we also visited ethiopia, a country that i had been looking forward to seeing. it is -- it has the distinction in africa of being the only country in africa that was never colonized. there was a period, a short

period of occupation by the italians, but they have been a kingdom under their own control except for that period of time since the early parts of the third and fourth century and maybe even before that. so they're very proud of their own language, their own customs, their own history. they have tremendous international efforts underway to help the ethiopian people, who are basically poor, struggling people. they are struggling against the economics of a poor nation as well as h.i.v., aids, tuberculosis. they're resettling refugees from the war-torn neighboring state of somalia, and they're trying to build a health system. one program in particular was provided by a nongovernmental organization called ombref in the cachina slum area of the capital of ada sabbaba. senator brown and i went to this area. it is a slum with 380 people living there that has basically

had to carry in water for years because there was no running water. but because of an amref project, they were able to build 22 water kiosks in the country and one in this slum area. it seems like something so simple but it has changed their lives. they now have a source of safe drinking water very near the small, little lintus that they live in. they have two showers for 380 people that they share and can use, where they had none before, and they have basic sanitation and toilet facilities, which they didn't have at all. we were greeted by tw beautiful little girls who gave us flowers and invited us to a coffee ceremony, and they couldn't help but beam with pride as we took a look at this source of water and sanitation that just didn't

exist before. so many thousands of people in africa spend hours every day carrying water back and forth, young girls were often denied the opportunity to go to school because they've got work to $. they've got to carry the water. something as basic as water that we take for granted becomes a centerpiece in their life every single day. improvements are being made in ethiopia and other places. i returned to goma in the democratic republic of congo, in the eastern section of that country. the capt capital kinchasa is far west and removed not only physically but also politically from many of the things happening in eastern congress goavment i tried to describe goma to people who haven't been there, and it is virtually impossible. imagine, if you will, one of the poorist places on earth where people are literally starving where their facing the surge of disease, where malaria is the

biggest killer of women. imagine, if you will, hiv-aids and the problems that they face with that. then superimpose over that misfortune an ongoing war that has been taking place in the eastern part of the democratic republic of kongo for years. there is an ongoing debate about how many people have been killed in tha this war. the debate ranges from the low number of about 2.5 million to the high number of 6 million. and they debate very violently about whether it is 6 million or 2.5 million, regardless of which number, it is an outrage. it is a genocide which is occurring in the section of africa with little or no attention from anyone. what has caused this? well, they enabled in rwanda -- i believe the year was 1994 -- a terrible genocide killed 800,000 people in a span of just a matter of days. those who were accused of the

genocidal acts, many of them escaped into the neighboring country of congo and set up their armed militias. they continued their violence because, you see, not only is goma an area that the surrounding towns and villages that fought over, it also happens to be an area that is dominated by a volcano which erupted in 2002 and killed hundreds of people and destroyed thousands of basic shelters. it's also an area that is filled with minerals and timber, gold, diamonds, basic minerals that are needed for the cell phones that we take for granted every single day. there's money to be made, even if you just take out your shovel, to go out and dig into the hillside and find some of these for sale. and so it is a rich area in mineral resources. it is also rich in other

resources. diane f fauci has her operation there for the silver-back gorillas. they are caught in the middle of the cross fire of this civil war. i came back to goma -- i'd been there several years ago -- and i was surprised at how many people remembered that i had been there and then thought i'd return, because few people do. it is just a hard, difficult place. we visit add hospital there called "hal "heal africa." the woman said, welcome back. i thought she made a mistake. she thinks i'm somebody else. it turns out that i had visited her hospital five years ago. it had changed so much, i didn't recognize it. but she was still there. her name is lynn lucy. her husband joe is a congress goalies surgeon general. they married years ago and said toed to start a hospital for the poorest people in that part of congo.

they focus on people with club feet and cleft palate. they focus on trauma victims, setting fractures, victims of fires and other accidents that occur. but their major area of focus are on the women who are the victims of the civil war. one of the most horrible things is just that people die, but they have now built in hideous torture techniques as part of the civil war. women are raped and gang-raped and children are mutilated in hideous, awful ways. they bring them into this hospital and try to rebuild their bodies and rebuild their lives. god bless them for doing it. joe and lynn lucy -- i might also add that when i was there last, i worried because they only had a handful of doctors. this time i walked into a classroom filled with doctors and standing in front of them was a doctor from the university of wisconsin, right smack dab inned middle west that i'm proud to be part of, from madison,

wisconsin, training these doctors on how to treat these poor people in the congo. so there's evidence in the united states of our caring and compassion of people all around the world and this sad situation in gmen goma, it is needed. we have a 20,000 member unit of the peacekeeping force trying to bring peace. but unfortunately rebel groups continue campaigns of brutal violence, known war criminals like john bosco in tegonda continue to play a role in the violence despite being wanted for awful war crimes. the congolese military has tried to root out other groups but has embraced others. it is hard to figure out the good people and bad people in this conflict. but you can certainly figure out the victims because you see them everywhere. we went to what's known as an internally displaced persons

camp, i.d.p. camp, just south of goma. i find it hard to imagine how people live there. there are 1,800 people living there. imagine, if you will, that they are living on volcanic rock. it's hard to walk on it, even with shoes, because it's jagged and hurts your feet. they live on it. they pitch tents on it. they walk their kids to school on it. we went to a little health clinic there and a baby was handed to me that was just a heartbreaking situation, clearly malnourished baby, who'd just been brought in for a few days. they were trying to rescue its life. many of the children there struggle with basic health needs. they have a school, which is better than most would find in their home villages, and some security. but each of them told me, we don't have enough food. you look at their sources of water, they're limited. it is a tough situation.

these people are there because they were caught in the cross fire of this war that just continues. they didn't do anything wrong. some of them are trying to rebuild their lives and stay safe in a very, very difficult situation. finally, we had a chance to visit sudan. i wanted to go there because i've stood on the senate floor so many times and given speeches about darfur and the genocide that occurred there. in addition to that troubled part of sudan, there's been an ongoing battle between north and south sudan, which appears to have resolved itself peacefully with an election that's going to be held in the near future for the national legislature and then early next year to decide if south sudan will be a separate country. there are about 8 million people living in south sudan. we traveled on the only road in south sudan. we met with the man who is vice president of sudan now and would-be president, i believe, of the new south sudan,

mr. salvokir. he is a former rebel who fought in the bush for years, surrounded by governors in south sudan who went through the same experience and just a few months, they may need to build a new nation. it is a daunting task. i worry about it because when there is a power vacuum in a failed state in africa, people move in on it, and they use it for exploited purposes and terrorist purposes. we then went to car tiewrnlings which is a -- we then went to khartoum, which is an historic city in africa. we talked about the status of darfur today which is more peaceful than in years gone by. one of the more interesting conversations that we had in khartoum was with one of the ministers, and i brought up the issue of global warming, wondering if this man in the middle of africa near the

equator felt that there was a need for us to be concerned about global warming. he said, i can it atake you 300 meters from where we're meeting now. i'll shoi the nile river and show you the impact of global warming. we can walk out onto stretches of lands that used to be under the nile river. so many people in that part of africa depend on the nile for irrigation, for their agricultural crops and water to live on. they said, we believe in global warming and if you want to know one of the causes of the genocide in darfure darfur, it s because that area was a desert and people are fileting over the land that can be cultivated. i think about the debates we've had on the floor of the senate. there are senators who proudly stand up and say, there's no such thing as global warming. irwish i could they could have been with me in khartoum and spoke to this man about evidence he has seen in that faraway place about changing climate and change in lifestyle, genocide

and war that have followed global warming. it is not just an environmental issue. it is a security issue. mr. president, there are frequent debates about the values of u.s. foreign assistance and americans are asked, well, how much do we spend on foreign aid? the most common response is, oh, about 25% of our federal budget. the fact is, it's just over 1% in foreign aid around the world. we spend far less as a percentage of our gross domestic product than many 0 other nations, but the work that we do with it is so absolutely essential. essential for maintaining life, for fighting disease, for making certain that young people have a fighting chance. president obama recognizes that, i hope we can have bipartisan support to continue our help with foreign aid, even in this difficult fipple. th-- even in this difficult fipple. the last issue i'll talk about is without fail in every african

nation, i would ask them the same question, what is the presence of chinese in your nation and the they would say, s interesting that you would ask. the chinese are moving into africa in way that we should not ignore. they are providing capital assistance and loans to countries all over africa which can provide them with minerals and resources for their economy and ultimately with markets for their products. and leaders in africa such as the president of ethiopia, say to me when the west walked away from africa, china stepped n well, the chinese have a strategy and a goal, and if we don't become sensitive to it and what it will mean to the next generation of people living in each of those countries, then we are going to pay a heavy price. we have to understand that these people now may be in underdeveloped countries and struggling, but tomorrow they'll have a middle class and they'll be purchasing goods and services and they will remember that their highways and state stadiums and schools were built with loans from the chinese.

and incidentally, those loans come with strings attached. when the chinese loan money to a country like oath open yarks it is so that the chinese construction company can come in and build the project using chinese engineers, technicians, and workers. so they are providing work projects with the money that they're loaning to each of these countries and being repaid in local resources like oil and minerals. we can't ignore this reality. it is happening all over the world. the chinese have a plan. i'm not sure that america has a plan, and we should. mr. president, i ask that my next statement be placed in the record separate from the earlier statement that i made. mr. president, in recent weeks my republican colleagues have directed a bar percentage of criticism at president obama for handing of terrorism cases and i like to take a few minutes to look what the they've will to say and to respond. let's start with the case of umar farouk abdulmutallab.

he was the man who tried to explode a bomb 0 a plane around christmas when it was landing this detroit. my colleagues on the other side have been very critical of the f.b.i.'s decision to give miranda warnings to abdulmutallab. senator mcconnell, the republican minority leader, said this, "he said, he was give an 50-minute interrogation probably larry king has interrogated people longer and better than that. after which he was asierched a lawyer who told thoim shut up." that's what the minority leader said. but here are the facts: experienced counterterrorism agents interrogated abdulmutallab when he arrived in detroit. according to the justice department during his initial interrogation, the f.b.i., "obtained intelligence that has already proved useful if the fight against al qaeda." after the i. interrogation, abdulmutallab refused to cooperate further with the f.b.i. only then -- only then, after

his refusal, did the f.b.i. give him miranda warning. what the f.b.i. did in case was nothing new. during the bush administration, the f.b.i. also gave miranda warnings to terrorist terroristd in the united states. i respectfully believe thatit a do it gracefully. i mean with the greatest of ease. >> benji will, so his game and personality were -- wilson, his game and personality were electric, a future star in the nba until one morning when everything changed. get an inside glimpse at the man the nfl mayors have chosen to lead them in -- players have chosen to lead them in the fighnewtive rgaient. 'll uce emar ith. >> t our stin >> and a truy th abou inws tvie'

hello and welcome to this edition of net impact. we've seen nfl commissioner roger goodell and nfl players association executive director demaris smith exchanging pleasantries through the media and have even been in front of congress as the two sides attempt a collective bargaining agreement and as they do so the atmosphere will get more tense. we know goodell he's within on the job three years now but who is this man that the players have chosen to be their voice in this turbulent time? here's comcast sportsnet's mid- atlantic's jill sorenson. >> for our last practice we could play head coach.

>> yea! >> we do head coach. >> reporter: this is fun for demaris smith the executive director of the nfl players association by day and a coach for his 10-year-old son allen and his baseball team in silver vince, maryland, by night. >> tag -- in silver springs, maryland, by night. >> tag him! >> reporter: the intensity and passion you see here is smith's day job as union smith named the successor to the late and edge legendary gene upshaw in march, the man everyone calls dean has not slowed down. >> i've been on the job six months. i've probably been on the road three and a half, four months solid. >> reporter: he was seen as an outsider to get the job with former players as the front runners. his background as a trial lawyer was far from the experience of an nfl player. >> i definitely think that's a positive that he was an outsider, you know, guy coming in, he doesn't have all the connections or, you know, any

preconceived notions of what was happening before and, you know, can he come in and kind of look at things clearly. >> i'm very confident. i'm confident, that you know, he can get things done, whatever that may be. he's presented himself in such a way and i think he's broken it down to the players in such a way that we can understand it. >> reporter: as much as he's an outsider d. is a d.c. insider having grown up a stone's throw from fedex field. >> you come out of the room in d.c. and get smacked and then you're injected with burgundy and gold. >> reporter: on his resume counsel to then deputy attorney general eric holder and he also served on president obama's transition team. >> business worldwide in some way, shape or form always touches washington. it's one heck of a sports town. so yeah, those are things that are inextricably tied to who i am. does it affect what i do? probably. but hopefully affects it for the better. >> reporter: with the possible lockout on the horizon demorris

smith has made it a priority to visit each team to help them understand the process. >> this was in one of the file drawers in our office and it slowly but surely i'm going through every drawer, every cabinet. >> reporter: why? >> a great deal of our history on what we have done internally to be a stronger union is there. the one thing i'm blessed about is gene was an incredible note taker. here on the back he'd clearly written out in longhand a speech that i don't know whether he gave or was going to give, but the most interesting part at the bottom is you see it in quotes, the nfl has always been willing to take a short loss for a long term gain. >> reporter: in the midst of negotiations or perhaps because of them d. and the union have made national headlines on a regular basis. >> as executive director, my no. 1 priority is to protect those who play and have played this game. to me it is probably a little

bit of a combination of half negotiation, half trial lawyer. i mean both of those things are things that are in my dna for some way, shape or form. i think about my grandfather in the pulpit. there's probably a little bit of that, too. as a result, i'm really not afraid of my question. i want guys to be actively involved. truth be told, i probably lean on them in a very hard way, but this is their union. it's not my union. it's their union. >> reporter: always in the line of fire demorris smith is used to the heat. >> i thought that was a -- 17-year-old ben benji wilson was a rising star, a young basketball phenom with a definite nba future. in fact, in 1984 wilson was the no. 1 ranked high school basketball player in the nation. he'd been described as a magic johnson with a jump shot and kevin garnett with a better

handle of the ball and a better perimeter game. luke stuckmeyer of comcast sportsnet chicago shows us wilson's wizardry on the court. >> reporter: chicago may be a football town and baseball crazy in summertime, but at its core in the city basketball is a way of life. we're not just talking about the m.j. glory days. we're talking about the kids who built their games here like isiah thomas on the west side and more recently dwayne wade and derrick rose on the south side, but 25 years ago somebody else owned these courts in chicago, a skinny silky kid with a smile named benji. >> and center for the wolverines a junior, 6' 7, no. 25 ben wilson. >> if you haven't seen him, you're in for a treat, 20 a game. >> i would go and i want to be successful and i do what it takes to be successful and that

is when i go home i study and do my work and go to class. >> kind of corny stuff. >> well, it works. >> reporter: everything seemed to work for benjamin wilson, but especially basketball. >> wilson two. >> reporter: born and raised on the city's south side, he was the middle of five brothers and it wasn't long before that orange rock was the fiber of his life. >> looked like bruce lee with two basketballs. he approached the basketball hoops. just unbelievable what he could do with that ball three fingers pawning the ball like this. >> reporter: and with ben and his ball around the wilson's neighbors were always up early. >> the neighbors used to be furious about being woke up in the morning because he was always dribbling the basketball and one of the next-door neighbors mr. robertson said benji was the alarm clock to

get him up and go to work in the morning. >> reporter: by 16 wilson could still play like a point guard but now he soared like an eagle with his new 7' 3 wingspan. >> bankston drops it down to wilson for a turnaround. >> we used to imitate ben when he shoots his jump shot. it was like he'll shoot it and then put his wrist back like this and run down the court but everybody used to emulate him in high school. that's how big he was in high school. >> reporter: and everybody wanted to be around him. benji's game and personality drew in friends and admirers from all over including the nba. >> ben wilson steps in, scores. >> 6' 8, 8 1/2, can do it all. i mean when i say do it all and do it gracefully. i mean with the greatest of ease. i mean and it looks so pretty

when he was doing it. i mean it was smooth. it was silky. it was just you had to -- he had that camera that captured that moment. i mean he was that type of player. >> wilson slide down the lane. >> reporter: as a junior he was a starter on a lineup full of seniors. benji was third team all state and the wolverines went 30-1 for the 2a state title. that put simeon on the map. >> i think he helped push simeon into a more global nationwide type school, basketball power. i remember our senior year, you know, we thought we were world beaters, we could go anywhere and play anybody any time. >> reporter: after winning the state championship in the spring of 1984 ben kept

improving stunning scouts at the nike all american camp. he left as the first kid from illinois to ever be ranked as a no. 1 player in the entire country. >> he was clearly, clearly benjamin wilson was the no. 1 player in the country. no one came close. >> reporter: ahead how benji wilson's life changed in less than a second. >> ben's thumb was rising and then at midday. >> reporter: a horrific crime on these streets in chicago is

benji wilson's future seemed secure. just a few years in college before fame and wealth would schuler follow in the nba -- would surely follow in the nba, but it wasn't meant to be. instead there was a tragic turn of events and now 25 years

later benji wilson has never been forgotten. let's get back to his story. >> reporter: ben wilson had it all, sizzling basketball skills and an electric personality, but on november 20th, 1984, it was a gray cold fall day a on the like this one and on vinsenz avenue right in front of simeon high school the day was about to get even darker. >> the old guys, they've served their times and lived their lives, when the sun is eclipsed or the sun is rising it's so different. ben's sun was rising moving towards midday and then it became midnight at midday. >> reporter: at 12:37 on november 20th ben wilson was walking with his girl friend and mother of his 10-week-old son brandon. they were a block from the

school. he liked to gather at a small store around lunchtime but benji bumped into two freshmen from calumet high school on the sidewalk. they pulled out a .22 caliber handgun and shot him twice, one bullet piercing his aorta and the other tearing a hole in his liver. >> to this day i still don't know the story. i've never tried to seek out the story because the only person that could tell is it and while the chaos continued at simeon benji's brothers were miles away with a sibling connection that still haunts them. >> i was in library class and i heard somebody say i got shot.

i got shot. i was in library class and i was like i'm going crazy, but then i thought about cain and abel when cain slew his brother and the most high said where's your brother? i heard his blood cry from the earth. right there something let me know that he got shot. >> and as a matter of fact, i had a dream two nights in a row before he died, somebody or something tried to tell me, had a dream that night benji was dead. next day i had a dream benji was dead. at that moment i heard my brother's voice say i got shoot just like i said to you there, came to me like. so this was something there and i was like what the hell's going on here? my mama always say you want the most high to talk to you, you got to be in a quiet place and

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we seen ben on the floor by himself. that's what brothers do. >> they weren't supposed to. i don't like to talk about that but they had to see him. >> they was telling us that he's in stable condition and kenny allen pulled the sheet back and we saw him. we had to see him and we knew he was gone. >> reporter: early the next morning the day his senior season was supposed to start ben wilson was pronounced dead at the age of just 17. even president ronald reagan called the family to offer h

is dead. >> involved in extraordinary young man. >> he was gunned down. >> it's not how long you live. but how well you live. >> then i seen my brother in that casket. oh, tried to wake him up like man, you ain't dead. get up, man. get up. get up. you ain't dead. get up. then seeing those two guys who did it. >> did you know ben wilson? did you know him? >> reporter: after the shooting cousins billy moore and omar dixon were taken into custody charged with murder and attempted robbery. moore was later sentenced to 40

years for pulling the trigger and dixon 30 years as his accomplice. on the day that benji died his simeon teammates decided to play their first game of the season without no. 25. earlier in the day students sobbed at simeon simply overwhelmed with grief, but benji's mother stood tall in the gymnasium. >> so today i speak in love of all of you who keep benji's memory and dignity and be strength v and strength and love alive -- strength and love alive. >> reporter: the wake was held on the gymnasium floor and 8,000 people came to see benji lying in his no. 25 jersey.

the line stretched blocks outside of the school, mourners waited seven hours. >> i still have dreams about him like, you know, he came back and he was able to play again, but just dreams. >> sometimes i sit down and, you know, when i'm going through things, you know, i speak, you know, just like i would to my grandparents, you know. hey, benji, how you doing, that type of thing. i just can't forget about him.

this is very emotional. >> reporter: still an emotional story 25 years later. there are some updates to this story. at the time of his murder benji wilson left behind a 10-week- old son named brandon. well, brandon would go on to become a talented high school prep basketball player himself. even played some college basketball at the university of maryland eastern shore but he would leave after his sophomore season according to a school official and as for the two young men convicted of this horrific crime, william moore is still in federal prison for wilson's murder and omar dixon would tack on additional charms when he was arrested for aggravate -- charges when he was arrested for aggravated unlawful use of a weapon in a separate attempted murder case. let's move on. next summer south africa will play host to the 2010fifa world cup but it was back in 1995

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became more of a focus for me and piano you put on the back burner a little bit. it was always secondary for me, always a hobby but something that i always kept up. >> reporter: inside his home today heitmann employs both a piano and keyboard setup inner it connected with the apple program garage band. it is here where the stanford graduate composes his best work in the form of cinematic sound scapes. >> my style is more of a movie classical theme sounding stuff i guess i would characterize it. >> so dramatic it plays well essentially. it's dynamic. >> yeah. i'd like to think that. you guys can be the judge. >> reporter: while football is the profession and composition is the passion, it's the music that gives eric an escape from life when he needs it. >> i'll be home sunday night or after a big game and maybe there's something you need to crank out on the piano to kind of relieve some emotions or something. i use it as an escape. it's a good way to kind of

release frustration or whatever emotions you're feeling at the time. it's something i've done for so long, you know, i've played for so long i don't ever really want to let it go at this point. i enjoy playing and i'm going to keep doing it as long as i can. >> reporter: it's only natural to expect eric's musical endeavors will outlast his football career, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's planning for a future behind the keyboard. >> you never know. we'll see at some point maybe if there's something you can put out there. i'd love to get in a recording studio at some point, maybe not for profit, just something i could show my kids at some point. i'll continue to do this for as long as i can. >> reporter: brody brazil, comcast sportsnet. >> he's pretty good. his team's not doing bad either. that's going to do it for this edition of net impact. i'm your host and for all of us thanks for watching, see you again next month.

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>> it's a busy college basketball night in philadelphia where the flyers and the men are in need of the road victory. the success of the number one- ranked temple owls led by juan fernandez and ryan brooks are here >> all around the atlantic 10, there is important ballgames

and one of the big games will take place at the center on the campus of temple university where the temple owls ranked in the top 25 again and we'll get them to take on the dayton flyers. why is this important? let's look at the standing. the temple owls are a half game behind the richmond spiders. the dayton flyers are in seventh place in the conference. hi, everybody. i'm tom mccarthy and joined by john griffin, former saint joseph's head coach. and this is a really important road game this is a critical game on the road. there is not a lot of separation between seventh place and the all-important fourth place to get by in the atlantic 10 tournament. >> the dayton flyers will have to contend with three guys for temple. ryan brooks, juan fernandez and

lavoy allen. lately, it's been ramon moore. >> it couldn't have happened at a better time. this is crunch time. ramone moore had a huge game this past week. week. we had a game-tieing lay-up in the closing seconds of the game. look at how he can get to the basket. ramone moore has been the sparkslug for duffy. >> look what he's done the last six games, earning 17 points per ball game and started when he was filling in for juan fernandess. the other side of the story, the dayton flyers. when this season began, they were a preseason number one pick to win the atlantic 10 title. thigs have changed compared to last year. they had 11 wins last year and in games decided by 5 -- five points or less. it's different this season. y that outscoring their opponents by 8 1/2 points in the victory 10 and they outrebounded the opposition in a friendettic pace during the

victories, they are ranked as high as 18 in the poles and -- poll and we talked to brian gregory about that. >> hopefully what they do is build character a little bit. they have been difficult. they have you have to play well for 40 minutes to be successful. hopefully we'll be able to do that these last four games and into the a-10 tournament. >> brian giggory is benefitting from the chris-chris show, that is chris wright. an extraordinary athlete, shot clocker and clock dunker extraordinaire and how about chris johnson, improved the scoring this season, 12 points a game. last year, only 6 and got a terrific shot from the perimeter and is a lefty. two great scores for ryan greg -- gregory. >> gregory is trying to change things up and will change up the starting lineup.

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job that is part of his coaching resume. the dayton flyers control the pick and misplaced the zone tonight and wright nearly loses it, lowery picks it up and there is the first turnover of the game and turnovers are a big story, john. the last time out for the dayton flyers. >> john: brian gregory talked about how important it is for the flyers to protect the basketball and get a good shot

with each possession. >> tom: one of the captains for the temple owls running the point making his 69th start of the career. ramone moore with a shot clock under 10 and finds ryan brooks. michael eric picks up the loose ball. and the jumper. >> john: i'm not sure if brooks got that shot or intended to make the pass. nonetheless, it worked out well for temple. >> tom: first foul call, this is against michael eric, the first team foul, rather. >> john: michael eric is not necessarily the first option. ryan brooks is a guy who is going to take most of the shots in addition to -- and we talked about ramone moore and juan fernandez. >> tom: carson, the receiveree for tonight's ball game is at the scorers' table with brian o'connell and they going to look at the video.

i think to see if the game clock is correct. that is my assumption, the game clock is correct. >> john: i will say this, temple's defense has been extraordinary all year long and one of the things fran dunphy wants to do tonight is to make sure that the dayton flyers stay out of the lane. >> tom: let's look at the game clock and the shot clock. the game clock is at 19:15 as brooks makes the catch and spinning down and that was a shot clock that hesitated for a moment and that started right away. 19:01 is where the clock should be. sixth to the right spot. difficult, john, to figure out what the officials are chatting about when they on the other side of the floor and it

sometimes is an assumption on our part, but that was a fairly clean play and knew the foul was against him and knew the shot clock would reset. >> john: teens -- sometimes whether you're a coach or fortunately, you miss a -- official, you miss the five- second here and the clock is set at 19:02. >> tom: the inbounds pass to chris wright. the black and the rebound is taken out by eric. ion john a express with defense and does a terrific job on the offensive end. in terms of getting a good shot and doing so and defensively, they're one of the better ones in the country. >> and they allowed, you saw 57.8 points per game, sixth best in college basketball. and that shot clock under 10 for the owls. and air ball. and that shot clock and

realizes that on. [ indiscernible ] wow! >> john: you get a sense of the upside of lavoy allen. >> tom: and trys to answer. nice steal by chris wright and he can't answer. the loose ball and the rebound is picked up by guzman. >> and on. >> john: the hustle with chris wright. he as a 40-inch vertical and -- >> tom: temple leads yet 4-0, under 18 minutes to play in the first half. >> john: you don't often see that. >> tom: no. >> john: missing the shot in the lane and goes for the dunk, it matters. >> tom: almost -- [ indiscernible ] allen and this is unbelievable athleticism here. >> john: you get a sense of lavoy all knowen's -- allen's. [ indiscernible ] and you have to hang on and he found a way to come over this. and that was over the back of chris wright, by the way and finished with a slam.

>> tom: the first 35 off the foul by the flyers and the inbound for temple. the last couple of possessions, temple was wowing the shot clock down and -- no good and a rebound. let's look at dayton. >> john: they going to have to rebound the basketball, that is the critical issue for dayton and they're winning games when they outrebound the opponent and they have to take good shots. they have to be able to take a good shot and much higher percentage. >> how about the other side with temple owl? >> john: one of the things is defend. they have to keep the ball and they didn't do a good job against saint joseph and i think -- and a lot of confidence. >> tom: perry with the bench and off the -- with the offense. fran dunphy was preaching

defense the entire time. they ran offense when he was still preaching defense and stopping the penetration into the lane. >> john: when you look at fran on the sidelines, you think he's awfully mild-mannered and everyone -- he is a real -- in practice. he really knows what he wants to accomplish and he demands a lot from the players. >> tom: nice pass from johnson to the cutting perry. that is a great find there. ion john an easy basket and i think brian gregory would like to get more of those tonight. >> tom: loved it and chris johnson to check into the ballgame and out of bounds. john john this is great team, and great execution and transition finding mickey perry open for a basket. >> the transfer from wisconsin, brian greg or will play a lot of players. if you haven't seen dayton play yet, you will see 11, sometimes 12 guys coming in and out of

the ball game. the defense -- [ indiscernible ] >> john: you know what is amazing, when you look around the league, you will see stats like this guy is an iron man and plays 37 minutes a game. the iron man is a guy like chris wright who plays 28 minutes a game. [ laughter ] >> tom: shot clock under 10. brookes with the shot clock down to 3 and now 2. good defense by perry and that is all individual defense right there. >> john: the tremendous defense and i think dayton does a great job of playing perimeter defense, brian gregory goes to the bench a lot and part of the reason is the guys that come in have to maximize their effort. look at the bench outscoring opponents lie 11.2 points a game. he has good players on the bench and they keep getting better. y that getting quality minutes. >> tom: two games ago, they outscored two 22-15 and the bench was the storyline against duquesne. they were outscored -- scored by duquesne 20-9 and duquesne

wound up winning the balm game -- ball game last time out. going to the 15 1/2-minute mark in the first half. va vox lavoy allen get chris wright. warren covering guzman outside. the shot clock is down to 10. allen finds moore and can't ni sh. searcy with for dayton and -- [ indiscernible ] starting interference and again searcy. 15:09 to play, tied at 4. it

gorgeous night outside in philadelphia. there is a snowstorm brewing. this is the last play before you went into the time out and still peached here. >> great work here and you can b e baon r l tending and what -- you should have let that ball fall, perhaps, and then he could have just pushed that back in. that is offensive interference. >> he was probably taking a page to lavoy allen's book and that followed slam and he came down under. 15 minutes to play here in the first pass, the game tied and the team shooting numbers so far and the first five minutes

of the game. no good. offense and battle four. london warren out of the file and that their is a file. >> watch how they throw the ball in the lane and they like to play off of the ball going into the lane and that ball is in the lane and kick it back out. they have a johnson. they move at a very good pace. 18-footer for london warren and the good offense for the -- [ indiscernible ] and seriously. >> and there was a good ball and nobody came out. tried to challenge the next shot. >> williams left that jumper, no good and allen with the rebound.

>> that is something tom gregory, taking the shot and have to make them. it looked like -- the projection and dayton got two pretty good looks. >> tom: won the last two games between the two schools, excuse me. this is the 26th meeting. temple has the edge. 14-11 and again, as we said, there is one to the last three meetings between the three schools. >> john: i think this is an important game for dayton as well. in terms of establishing and they're going to win games, the conference games on the road and they almost flawless at home. >> the bucket is good by jefferson. the freshman from chester, pennsylvania. and gets temple a 2-point lead. and to the first 6 1/2 minutes and to lavoy allen. >> fran dunphy is not hesitant

to go to his bench and we talked about ramone moore providing a spark and another guy, only a freshman who is capable of getting double-digit points. >> and to the baseloop. >> >> john: you can't forget about ryan brooks. he's the team's leading scorer and taking a secondary -- and he's capable of getting whyet in the game. >> and no good. the rebound is down by avenue haveer -- jefferson. >> john: so far, temple's done a good job of limiting dayton to one shot in each possession. >> tom: 7 minutes gone by in the first half. temple leads it by 4. fernandez trying to cut ryan brooks and the nice job on defense. williams should be credited with the block. lowery, go steps behind and no good. dayton, 15 to the left, 17 the last 35 from outside of the ark

the last two games and they're a little off tonight and johnson hasn't gotten the flow offensively. >> it's going to be important. chris johnson's had a terrific game and due cape, two games, actually and they're going to need the outside shooting and he's going to have to knock down a couple of 3s tonight. >> inside and back again lavoy allen. upper body strength for huelsman. >> john: expected this to be a low-scoring game. both of the teams are very good defensive teams and the best in the league and dayton is number 4 in terms of points. >> tom: dayton is only allowing 51 1/2 points per ball game, a good number this late in the year. moore, and shot block, no good. and with the second board. chris johnson, first three

attempted of the night. >> >> john: he didn't seem to have and was a little bit off -- >> tom: low-scoring and what you expect. >> john: it s i think both teams should have probably, you know, almost twice as many points. >> tom: the rebound and the putback to lavoy allen, resulting in a 3-point play- off. 11:18 to play. temple leads it by 6 with a free-throw c

>> tom: so far, temple leads it by 6. lavoy allen has a free- throw line coming on the time out. several to finish fifth in the atlantic 10 in the preseason poll polls and -- polls andy that turned things around. best record of 24 games since '99 and 2,000. people haven't talked about fran dunphy being coach-of-the- year candidate. she right now. >> john: chutely is. people discounted the players returning and fran dunphy's ability to -- and get the most out of the players and he will not promote him, not trying to be gq on the sidelines here. >> -- to be and will roll-up his sleeves. and is doing it here, not too

far away from them on broad street. >> tom: 387 career victories for fran dunphy between 10 and temple and the league -- 10-4. lavoy allen the loose ball picked up by chris wright and can't finish. going to be an offensive foul against dayton and again, searcy. >> john: chris frustrated and searcy as well, brian gregory knows that chris wright is capable of finishing, probably not a better player in the league cable of doing that. >> and chris is averaging under 15-points per game and has that 22 double-digit games this year and that is about finishing. he's not able to find the bottom of the basket. >> tom: six-point lead for temple and fernandez. the 3 and that is good. >> john: what a dangerous player fernandez can be.

villanova, 7-3 and this guy can play the role of play maker and can be a legitimate scorer. >> tom: leads the atlantic 10 in 3-point field-goal percentage, someone with an awkward shot and he makes it work and that works arriving here at temp will. >> john: i think this is a dangerous juncture. we're 10 minutes into the game and dayton has had good luck and they have had four points. >> tom: checking foul called against fernandez and. >> john: like the way temp will moves the basketball. fernando has a lot of space to knock down the 3. >> tom: you see fernandez averaging 3.7 assists per game leading the team and that happened off the bench the last few weeks and as john mentioned, 33 points against villanova and the sky is the limit for him. london warren picks up the offensive board and warren finds chris wright and nice,

the pass. no more for searcy on either shots and off the hands of lavoy allen. >> and that looks like a little in the basket and this is lieak. they have an easy basket and it doesn't drop. and they can't have it back in as well. >> tom: marcus johnson off the inbound and another board. that is six boards for lavoy allen. >> he armies's double-double on the season and on the basket. >> tom: against fernandez and that is the second turnover. he does the teams and doesn't turn the ball over that match and they're averaging over 11 turnovers per game,. >> john: reminds me of john cheney and -- about not turning the basketball over and i think the players at temple here have been -- and part of their dna

almost. >> tom: perry misses the shot and another assist and this is on the side. almost the basket is a half a foot taller than what they used to. >> john: brian greg or asked what do we have to do to get a basket leer? it's a good opportunity. >> tom: fernandez. and put that one on the hep and called for the double dribble. >> john: three players are coming in the game for dayton. i think brian gregory is looking for any kind of complimentary play amongst the players here and to see who can put the ball in the basket. any combination that might work. >> john, you -- >> tom: john, you coached for a number of years here and tried different things as a coach. tonight, brian greg or decided to reinsert marcus johnson in

the starting lineup and start rob lowery, another seenion and -- another senior and hoped -- and they haven't scored in over seven minutes and hasn't given him the spark they're looking for. >> john: you try things and the the coaches know best. they have a better feel than anyone else. >> tom: a good shot for the base line to ramone moore and gives temple a 15-4 lead into the 11-0, the owls and the blocking foul called on ryan brocks. -- brooks. the first. michael eric checks back in and lavoy allen with the breather. >> john: just wondering where dayton is going to get the next field-goal. maybe the best opportunity to score is on the foul lines. drive the ball to the basket and get temple to foul. >> tom: against the foul.

lowery. the pass outside for johnson, no good. wright, though, with the rebound. boy, he can get up there. there is johnson with the drive. nice touch off the glass and the bucket, the first more than 8 minutes for the dayton flyers. >> john: that was a good tough drive to the basket for marcus and sets up here at a time when dayton needs the basket. >> tom: under eight minutes to play. and temple with a nine-point lead. this is -- contempt to run some. this decision by jefferson to pull it out. the shot clock down to 10. moore tied up and here's fernandez, too long. eric with the rebound and drops it out of bounds. 731time left to play here in the first and the dayton flyers, can they find their groove? maybe they hope that marcus johnson's last basket will send

them on their round.

>> back inside, temp will leads it 15-6, 7:31 left to play in the first half and hello, with john griffin, i'm tom mccarthy. we have seen the round of 8 minutes ending for dayton where they got a field-goal. coach, there is no doubt if dayton is going to do anything in the post season, they need marcus johnson. >> john: ironically, everyone talks about chris wright but johnson has a huge effect on

the outcome of the game. when he scores, he's averaging seven points a game and with the field-goal percentage, not that great and in games where dayton has lost, he has not really scored. he's not been a factor in games where they have won, he's a factor. >> tom: in their 8 losses, he has five points or less in five of the losses, including two shots in the duquesne game this past weekend. he was 0-2 from the floor. >> and with the ball, the right side of the lane and doubles team and with war own the bench and sits back for the long 3. and still without the 3 in the first half and the foul called against chris wright. >> john: i like the hustle of chris wright. as a coach, you don't mind giving up the foul and brian

gregory is going go to start with full-court pressure to try to force the temple a little bit faster and may be get a turnover that could lead to an easy basket in transition. >> the pressure by the flyers, under seven minutes to play. >> and when we talked about johnson, that is not the points the players get but the contagious effect that they have on other players and when a guy like marcus johnson has -- and i think it may help to settle down the teammates. >> tom: shot clock under 10 and -- [ indiscernible ] caught by lowery. the defense right there by dayton. >> and. >> john: terrific hands by liary. they could put a lot of pressure on the temple perimeter players. >> and from lowery to marcus johnson. we talked about how brian gregory's team struggled on the

road, 4 and 5 this year and look what they did. they scoring 78 points per game. the last three road games and in scoring over 70 points per game. that is the difference when you look at dayton and temple. temp will has one game on the road and dayton hasn't within the conference. that is what separates the teams, their ability to win conference games on the road. >> and on that that we saw, the number of points they have allowed on the road and that difference of 11. >> john: when he watched dayton play, they had a different personality and that are the aggressor. you're almost invading the home. >> tom: fernandez with the shot clock winding down and he's having himself a heck of a half on the boards alone. ion john sometimes gets frustrated with that and he sees what he's capable of

doing. act identify both sensed of the court. >> tom: eight rebounds already for lavoy allen. lowery takes that and -- here's williams in transition. in for the first time for the flyers. he played a few minutes against duquesne. they missed him in the games prior to. that he was balling -- battling a back problem and a knee problem and he can shoot for 3. >> john: forces the defense to stretch out and that could open it up for guys like chris wright. >> tom: with the board off the big -- the shot clock doesn't reach, by the way. lowery doesn't realize that williams left him and just as the clock was winding down to zero. >> >> john: a guy like williams might be the guy that makes the difference. this is the guy coming in off the beach and almost the dayton platoon system and --

>> tom: allen was wide open underneath and with a little too much on that. dayton scored the last two picket -- buckets, although there is a good amount of time. ion john they're still in the game, though. they have 9 points, okay? and we're under five minutes to go here and they were in shouting distance. temple has 15. >> tom: against jefferson and jefferson with a piece of it and allen with 9 boards already in the first half. ion john he's on pace to get 20 for the game. i like the way they execute in the half-court and their offensive -- they have a lot of confidence in each other and trust each other. they'll take time to work the ball from one side to the other and inside or out to get a good shot. >> tom: the bounce back to allen inside and temple with 8

on the shot clock. the defense

>> tom: the two teams average 135 points per game. tonight, 24 points and that will play out. he's the man on the board.

>> john: he's on the defensive end and offensive end. he's an extraordinary in the first 15 minutes of this game and he's all over the place. and he's stepping up here for fran dunphy and the temple owls. >> tom: he's got 9 rebounds so far in the first half and not going to get a breather. i thought he was going to get a breather and dayton scored 9 points. lavoy allen with many rebounds and he's on the way to averaging a double-double and being the first guy who played in the nba for 9 years and to average a double-double in the season and that was in the early '70s. >> john: there is great players in the history of basketball and you get a sense of how difficult that is. >> tom: with the shot clock under 10 and brooks misses the 3 but moore is there to clean

it up. >> and we saw how he found that. >> >> tom: the eight-point lead and here's chris wright with the nice drive and allen with the 10th rebound. >> john: chris wright is 1-6 from the field and dayton as a team is 4-27 from the field. and in a shot, that is -- . >> and that is too easy there, brian greg or wants's time out with 2 minutes and 58 seconds to play and the team is known for defense. little defense on both of the place. >> john: here you can see a good putback by moore. a 10-point game and i think temple can start to separate here and if they continue. going for a mock tournament selection bracket.

to see how the field of 55 are chosen. and a look at atlantic 10 tournament resumes and that is a hot topic and that is the first of the year and there are a host of other atlantic 10 teams with the same opportunity and there could be five or even six teams from the atlantic 10 in the ncaa tournament this year. >> i think a lot is going to be decided. you can see the rpi indices and they're strong. in dayton, i think this last week of the half of the season is going to be important when you look, for example, at the remaining games like dayton and charlotte. that is coming into play. >> tom: another mix from the flyers and call the buddies give me and they not

everything. 2 1/2 to play. wright. [ indiscernible ] the foul underneath and that is who you're talking about, getting the free-throw line and get some rhythm and points. >> john: i think dayton is sensitive at the foul line and that will give chris wright an opportunity. the temple fans thought it was a walk-on and, nonetheless, fran dunphy explaining his version of the last play. >> tom: wright converts the game's first free-throw for the flyers and temple had one attempt on the line and lowery checks back in and chris johnson comes in and in the last ball game. >> john: we talked about chris wright and how he missed 19 games in the freshman year and

how quickly he would have gotten to 1,000 points and that would have been sooner. >> tom: more of the drive and the rebound and out of bounds. chris wright, look at some of his biography over a thousand points, 42nd player in dayton history to do that and one thing not on that, you can look at all the numbers are, preseason first team selection this year. he's a wonderful kid. >> john: everyone talks about him and what a great ambassador he is for the program. dayton basketball is a big part of the community and in the city of dayton. >> tom: on the run to the temple owls and you the putback, no good and with the rebound. lowery should have finished this but instead, does it with

an exclamation point to chris wright. >> >> john: and chris wright having some trouble finishing, no problems for the last possession. >> >> tom: all the talk of how they struggling and down by 6 and they have forced back-to- back turnovers for temple. johnson in the paint. >> john: i know fran wants to keep dayston out of the lane and you see them do that against saint joseph's and they can get the ball in the lane and dumping yet off. >> wright, with the shot clock. off the screen and by him. they call a foul and he moved his feet a bit. the last sequence of event for dayton. >> the good hustle and you can

see with the partial block. look at number three, rob lowery. that shows you how much he also plays a part on the defensive end and he gets down the part and is part of the offense. >> tom: an 11-sec, make it 12- second difference between the shot clock and game clock and 32 combined points. ion john and when you think about it, dayton is shooting 15% and they very much in the game having scored 13 points in the first. and this is a throwback. this is like taking basketball back and to where teams on a short 40 points in a game. >> tom: under 10 seconds to play. >> john: you ask anyone, dayton scored 14 points in the first half. how much are they down?

6, are you kidding me? >> tom: brian gregory's squad with 13 points. the latest in a half was 23 earlier this year and 13 is the lowest for brian gregory's team. guess what, he's down by 6 and temple, 19; dayton, 13. a little togetherness and resulting in little points the first 20 minutes. coming up on the halftime show g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8g8

>> tom: halftime, temple leads it by 6, 19-13. last week in indianapolis, 20 members of the madia went through the same process that they will embark upon next month when they were selected and seeded the ncaa tournament

and one was our own clark kellogg. let's look inside the mock selection exercise and learn about how the break set put together. >> you're going to feel like you're in the movie groundhog day. we're going to do the same thing over and over and over again. you'll wonder why. you will think it's maddening. the reason is because if you're one of those teens being considered, you want the committee to have every opportunity to max sure it's making decisions relative to similar teams in the mix. all you're doing is selection now and you're not worrying about seating or the bracket. you're trying to determine the 34 best teams, teams with qualifiers in the tournaments and you don't need to worry about them. you're focussing on teams not yet in the tournament and teams as committee members, you believe are no-brainers, teams requiring no discussion up to

34 and of those. or committee is determined, consensus on 19 no-brainers for the at-large board. what we're doing now is our committee selected 53 teams to put on the considering board, that would be code for calling the pillows and sleeping bags, that will be a long night. >> and i have

field as at-large and now you're tie breaking between illinois and xavier. >> and you're judging the team based on their merits and not looking at the part of the conference. >> stronger and they make it four, they get 10 and 4 and 6 and if not, it's not a conscious decision. >> you may look at some of the things and say i can not believe that we did that. >> the actual selection committee? they would be on day 3 of day 6 to give you an idea of how long and arduous this process is. >> guerrero will look in the room and say i have to go out and defend this ask can't figure out how florida is not

in the tournament already. >> a lot of handling and knots in the stomach. >> now change your mind set real quick. these are in the tournament now and all you're doing is dealing with best to works and not deciding if that is in the tournament. that is decided. [ indiscernible ] >> right now. >> and we can start to bring the brackets together and that is what we're looking forward to. where are the teams? where are they going to be playing and the matchup and that is the most -- part of this process. >> you are the committee now and what is your first suggestion regarding kansas? >> st. louis. >> anyone have a objection? okay, we're putting kansas and to st. louis. syracuse, where would you like to send them? okay, syracuse to houston, okay? texas? send them to houston and all

part of the fast right-wing conspiracy. you have to decide what you're going to do. that is the bracket that you're going to see and have the biproduct of your work and we'll like at it and you, too, can be criticized by the rest of the world. >> tom: one of the greatest days of debate is coming up. they will meet sunday, march 14th and decide who goes to the big dance, how many teams from the atlantic 10 will make the tournament and we'll have to wait and find out and we'll talk about that about when we return.

>> tom: it's the kind of history the dayton flyers don't want to abe part of, 13 first- half points, the lowest total for a team since world war ii, the previous low was 14 and now, good news/bad news for the

flyers. >> do you give a lot of credit to the defense and perhaps do you. at the same time, you have to say the offense is not working. both teams are shooting poorly and we'll see what happens in the second half. >> tom: the day line -- dayton flyers were ranked the top 25 in college basketball and speaking of the poll, let's look at kansas and with one loss and kentucky. >> john: i'm going to say at the top and that is anybody's guess. >> tom: new mexico is in the top 10, they have had a good run tonight and villanova, they're sitting in number serve and there are the temple owls, 17 and gone zaa is, again, going to smock up on folks. >> john: this is the fun time of the year, where everyone has a chance for an opinion and created a cot am industry of people making a living and

making predictions. >> tom: we saw the selection process by the members of the media and all those in the selection process are part of the niche. >> well, look, someone can take issue with any of my pick here and in the final four for duke, kansas, kentucky and philadelphia. >> how about the next question? who is college basketball player-of-the-year? this is a tough one and i picked evan turner of ohio state. he does everything. >> tom: the final question in the griffin's goady -- get bags of question, which will go farthest? >> john: after what you watched in the first half, i picked temple. and in part, they played well on the road and against the top 50 teams. >> tom: y that hoping to get to the ncaa tournament.

i think a lot of folks might agree with you and take a look at the teams balling for the ncaa tournament. rhode island and jim baron's squad, they're one of the teams. >> john: certainly, the rti is high and have 20 wins and good wins out of conference, particularly out of oak oak state and they going to have to finish the season strong. i think dayton is in the same spot. very good rpi and strength of schedule and they going to have to finish the next week and a half. tom time a couple of questions about a st. louis team arising and in that second half we'll have the second half w

>> tom: it's a 6-point ball game, we're set to start the second half and that is not a misprint. the team is cooking from outside the ark.

>> and not checking in terms of the offense. the field-goal percentage is poor and on the other side, both teams doing a very good job on the defensive end of it. lavoy allen is -- and to temple. 10 rebounds in the first and he scored six field-goals and has been the low rainfall -- lone ranger for the temple elves and for dayton, it's chris johnson and stepping up. , and chris wright is the guy that scored a bit and not a lot. 2-7 from the field and got to there and has six first day points and five rebounds. >> and that is part of the story, too. he had a lot of open shots that he could not get down. >> john: he was almost automatic and not able to finish on the number of occasions. >> tom: temple falls, we begin

the second half and they lead it by 6. i thought he was going to go and to the high post and read it beautifully. >> john: actually, temple has a way to play and the other guys in the court are in positions set. terrific finish. >> tom: speaking of finishing, and allen sales it away. moore tracking the ball down and resets the offense. >> john: you get a sense that both teams are going to pick it up and this is clearly in the first half. >> tom: lowery to guzman and calling for the blocking tall -- foul. this is an impressive play to start the sec half. >> john: there i

for the owls. and moore is falled into the -- and things got a run going here. >> and that starts with the defense. you can see the good execution and he's a good example of -- the ability to get to the basket as marcus does -- and finishes at the rim. >> tom: fresh notify off the foul, perry checks in and so does seecy and brooks, the pass. >> john: quiet in the first half and has the ability to score and with it, creates some space and against a good perimeter defender. >> tom: penetrates on the side of the rim and rebound by guzman and brookes, back-to- back and talking about him

getting into the play. >> john: he can score in bunkes and ramone moore is open ahead of the pack and was looking for the long -- and brooks decided to pull up. >> tom: 3 1/2 going by and here in the second half. temple leads it by 8 and owls rank top 25 the last 10 weeks. johnson for 3, good and brocks gave chris johnson a glimmer of light and took advantage of it. >> john: this is a guy who shot the ball well and is a guy with a quiet first half. >> tom: chris johnson 0-2 from back side and 0-2 overall. boy, the high low to michael harris and shot blocked by chris johnson and here is warren and the flyers, perry did a nice job getting position

and laying that in. >> john: he used the rim to protect the basketball and able to finish. that is the second breakout, now, and the dayton flyers are having success scoring transition here in the second half. >> tom: they cut the lead to 3, 25-22. >> the pick-and-roll. he had the first in the game and a similar shot, moore on the angle and to the basket there to get that to go down. >> john: nice to that shot and is this their is a guy who hasn't played formal basketball. the soccer player. >> tom: searcy, no good. brooks with the rebound and leading the break. a foul on warren and gets a couple of free-throws and the defense by the dayton flyers and not only helping but also

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>> tom: 14:43 to play in the second half. let's revisit tonight's ball game. what do you think so far? >> >> john: they have done a good job shooting the ball well and rebounding, an a, shooting the ball well, i think they get a d

or d plus and in that same situation. i think he did a good job of that all in all and just within the flow, they did not shoot the ball well and they get a good score for the defense and not for the offense. >> tom: there hasn't been a flow for either team offense elf in the first half and second half. >> john: i think we're going to see more of a flow in the remainder of the game. both teams are cable of better offense. >> tom: ramon moore to the free- throw line and the second for temple in tonight's game, moore with seven points, earning over 16 the last games. juan fernandez checks in. >> ask fran dunphy about having moore and must love to have the

offense of play in the year and he said i knew he could score. >> john: fran wants to play the complete game and is not going keep him in the game because he's scoring a lot of points. he wants him to play both ends. >> tom: eric with the foul and the loose ball blocked by lavoy allen and johnson. >> johnson did a great job. has a turnover. brian gregory's team down lie only -- by only 7, despite the fact that they have scored 22 points and allowed 29 in this game. >> john: i thought he had a great comment in the beginning. we talked about the number of games they could have won and he said you know what? we can learn something from it

and hopefully it will remind us in the season. >> for the remainder and shot clock at 10. fernandez with the 3-pointer. and. >> john: looks casualty when he took the shot andy going the ball to the basket and. >> tom: fernandez with the two 3s and this is -- . >> john: can make a difference here and is being defended by lowery. you have to remember he's 6'4" and creates space. >> tom: from earn t.j.a, came to temple last year and what a pick up he does. people talk about codie ellis for st. louis and to dunphy last year when fernandez came over. another rebound for allen and

six points and 11 rebounds. defended outside by johnson. >> jeff jefferson with the nice drive and a couple of free- throws and really carried temple in the victory over villanova this year. >> what an amazing game, shot 11 for 15 from the field and he was unconscious. this was a huge win for the temple -- >> >> tom: that was the first time people took notice of temple this year and villanova for a long time, that was their only loss and that was their only loss and temple was not supposed to be this good and they lost. >> john: you're right, tom. i took notice and thought what the heck is happen something finished the top four and go out to see the nationally-

ranked team. >> and have an 11-point lead. the ball is rolling off the fingertips and 13:07 to play, temple ball after the turnover. >> the largest lead of the game for the owls. >> john: fran dunphy has a luxury in having juan fernandez and guzman on the team at the same time. both are capable of running the offense. >> and. >> tom: called the offensive foul and -- >> john: fran dunphy's offense, nobody has to play under control. there is enough obligations in terms of reversing the ball and throwing it inside and out. on the perimeter that you will get a descent shot if you take

your time. >> tom: the same offense he had and launches it and makes the 3. fran at 10. >> john: you're exactly right and running the same offense. central for him at university and of pennsylvania. can make a difference and we talked about it earlier. there are guys making the games because of a back injury. >> tom: the finish by ryan brooks, six points and for ryan brocks. >> john: to defend temple. they had so many obligations. >> tom: feels good and driving to the basket. >> john: when he is away, he's not looking for the shot and finds brooks. >> tom: a couple of free-throws

here and seniors making 127 consecutive starts. finished with dayton his father to the play and all a teacher and a coach. that is the impact brian gregory and his staff has had. >> john: he's been a lead or this team for four seasons and the thing, starting -- [ indiscernible ] you can kind of jockey around with some of the other players and he's not touched him and understandably so. >> tom: under 12 minutes to play and misses one. allen picked up another 3 malls and sets things up offensively and to more for 3. the rebound, 11-1 and tied up on the

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>> tom: here's the lead, the home of the temple owls, enjoying a lot of success during the 13 years and also a lot of success under fran dunphy, 38 wins and years here at temple. 10-1 inside the building. the only for kansas, the number one team in the country. >> john: i think a lot of people forget how good temple is, not just at home but on the road and here for us, it's been a terrific venue for the temple

owls. with fran dunphy and before that with john cheney. >> tom: john cheney, the class of 2001, in basketball hall of fame in spring feel. had the same look andup done -- undone, and looked like that and --ion john he was inducted into the big 5 hall of fame and with mossimino and speedy mark. >> tom: coached under at la salle. >> and heading to the 11 minutes. here in the second half. williams and johnson for the rebound. dayton made five shots from the first half and made five shots here in the second half. you figure things would change and that is still not what they would like. >> john: you get the feeling

they're in the game and 9 with a little under 11 minutes to play. >> >> tom: the possession ball game and the shot clock under 10. off the fingertips of marcus johnson. ion john at the end of the day, this is a simple game. you have to make sure, you have to ask for your oponents. you have to talk about all the intricate things and you know what? the ball has to go in the basket for you to win. >> tom: temple shooting under 37%. at 24 1/2%, the defensive board. dayton with the transition here and the low allen

misdirectioned that entire graal. >> and greg or wanted the foul. there was contact on the play and roy allen has done a good job on the defensive end here, changing shots in the low posts. >> tom: under 10 minutes to play in the second half dayton trying to win it, 19; temple trying to win it, 23rd. lavoy allen with a no-look pass to ramone moore and he was outside and disrupted inside. >> >> john: i don't know if you can think of lavoy allen as a passer and made a couple into the lane. >> tom: nice turnaround jumper and has 3 points. >> john: i like the way he's challenging allen and hasn't worked out. he showed you his ability to get the turnaround jumper. >> tom: you figure there is not much going shootingwise and to

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time tom two of the tom -- >> tom: two of the top teams, and lead it by 9. not a lot of offense. you coached a long time in the college game. you have games like this? >> it just happens. there is a little in the basket

for both teams. at the same time, going to give credit to both teams for the defense and both outstanding, especially perimeter defensive teams. >> tom: we look at the final 9 minutes or so of the ball game and wonder if the team will continue to step up. london warren, lowery, johnson and lowery, johnson for dayton. >> john: there are a lot that can have a effect and moore did is doing a great job with 10 owns and london warren is not -- and he's a good defender and they going to need something whether it's rob lowery or something else. >> and following the efforts of both of those guys. 7:48 to play in the second half.

37-28 john john you and fran dunphy saying it's an important game and it is. you have a favorable schedule remaining. fran dunphy can't afford those to let his team let up and that is the point. >> tom: temp will's got games against la salle, and let that one fly and lavoy allen battling with johnson for the loose ball. there are the final three games for fran dunphy's squad. two here in philadelphia and one in la salle. a tough one and in st. louis. >> john: you want it, not only in the last time of the season but last year, for example, duquesne started playing wellality the