history moving through east africa while i think we are doing well, the nature of the threat is always changing. >> let's open for comments and questions from the floor if the speakers could identify themselves and rate for the microphone we have the first question here. >> georgetown university. but thank you for your service to our country. the word file into extremism was tended to be used like the eight islamist never came out of your mouth and some people think the above the administration has turned his back and not

taken in the war on terrorism as seriously as a results of the fact that you don't grow it is from. of it reminds me brandy's you wrote the way and i helped to do that that meant madame albright said not use that term anymore is it a way to connect to the muslim world that is on is not the issue although there are extremist who were puzzled. is that the purpose? >> i get to this question with every appearance. i think the best way to put it is the issues of what constitutes true is on and what it does not the best answer among muslims them by

muslims and our concern is really with those who seek to use violence as a means to affect our policy and actions in the world. i would argue that as a sign of seriousness that we don't resort to that kind of language precisely because it had such a negative effect in the past when people have gotten themselves tangled up and issues of dr. and and i think it is counterproductive for political officials of any kind to start to hold forests of what a rigid says or does and. i don't think you'll get us anywhere in the future but that does not mean high as a scholar did not read about it and other people don't have legitimate work to do

in that field of from a policy perspective that has not gotten us anywhere. >> >> i believe during a recent visit, and sends them on by a tax your terrorism has turned this exponentially. plea-bargain. there has been concern in india because u.s. rose reluctant to talk about our india would have direct access and if they feel they can of his scouting they should be afforded a direct access which is not out of the door because of the plea bargain. and all of these from commentators six cetera the intelligence component will

you then head countered terrorism bureau and we it will stop support to groups that look like bruce ride out the head that indians keep talking about the fact the u.s. has double standards in terms of pakistan and military which is morale we were conceived as well as other groups so if you cannot address both of those. >> you are right there was in india last week and it is striking the continuity of the questioning i get on these issues. [laughter] >> also with the al qaeda and pakistan question? >> actually we're less able to distinguish precisely because many of the kashmiri

groups some groups have been called kashmiri like el vitti it are kashmir and they are from afghanistan and one of the trends we have seen increasing stitching together of different groups this is a great worry and we see a rise of freelancers of people to 158 we see when group contracting with another and it makes for a challenging aspect of the changing of counterterrorism but let me get to the gentleman's question. it is true i recesses question very often and in india. let me be quite candid york ethical issues. but what is not at stake is

the indy government gets every bit of the relevant information from what it requires. the issues of access are really best handled by the department of justice which handled the plea agreement because of the legal nature of this is really not something that is appropriate for me to be lobbying one way or another my concern is that as you said the counterterrorism corporation between our companies these countries continue to deepen and this is one positive story and counterterrorism the last few years i don't think anybody would have received we could come as far with co-operation as we have and it is in a first chance but a consequence of mumbai and the recognition this is a share threat.

as for the issue of a double standard we don't have one week made clear exactly how we feel it has killed americans as dade designated foreign terrorists association and i did not hesitate to speak about it and neither india nor pakistan at this rate we take very seriously as i suggested in my remarks. >> >> president karzai has just issued a statement i am sure you are familiar condemning foreign interference. this comes just a few days after the president's visit so i am wondering what

supplies for our ability to cooperate in our common effort against violent extremism? >> i have a feeling that was going to come up. [laughter] we had a lot of experience with a lot of world leaders who have said different things at different times and we have managed to work through our it differences and achieve a good outcome. obviously it is a very challenging situation on the ground and afghanistan and there are times when the partners feel fe are being stepped on and times that we feel they are unnecessarily constrained i will say that i was just there and my meetings with the minister of the interior and intelligence of the like i was not presented with any sense that we were on welcome or doing things that

in any way undermine to afghan interest so across their wide range of government enormous numbers of who we interact with every day i think the relationship is working pretty well and i will leave it at that. >> nicely done. [laughter] >> good day. from fox news service russia but i a not only have one question but to and my first would be as you probably know there are 40 people killed in recent suicide bomber attacked in moscow subway so what is your view of the effective methods of preventing containing investigation such terror

attacks that you might succeed with that. my second question would be more general what is a state of cooperation between russia and the west between the counterterrorism world? >> i will take the second one first. we have very good cooperation between the u.s. government and the russian government. i am pleased to say i have a close relationship with the opposite number of presidents special representatives for counterterrorism and i contacted him immediately after i got news of the moscow metro attack i think my colleagues to work russia policy issues would agree that to against of the background of all of the different issues influx of the bilateral relationship

counterterrorism is a constant in terms of the level of cooperation in the atmospheric and the outcomes and we will continue working on bad for example, of secretary of state and foreign minister lover of work together with fed gh meeting a few days ago. think we have a good basis to work on with a shared interest in expanding and further articulating the international organization said the with capacity building and i am hopeful we will have more things to deliver in the near term. i am reluctant to tell russians what they need to do to deal with their extremist. obviously the caucus remains a troubled area of. i don't think we have enough information yet how to carry these attacks out but in our

experience, some good solid police work combined with intelligence were combined with effective prosecutions will make the big difference to do legitimate terrorists and undermining the cause that they stand for. why don't die in the that that? >> just a quick follow-up is there any particular corporation were intelligence sharing systems both with moscow? >> we certainly have offered our assistance i don't think we have received a response we do exchange intelligence from time to time but i am not in a position to comment on current intelligence matters, nor should i.

and so i think we will wait to until a few more-- have passed to say if there's anything they want to discuss on that. >> on a very positive view of what our coverage is doing to assess the situation i would be interested when you go home at night and getting ready to go to bed with you are most worried about the weird not doing and achieving with low probability and high impact terrorist attacks? >> there are lots of things that worry me at night from someone on the september 11

holding a three week-old son when i got the call from the cnn i am aware to the issues of catastrophic terrorism. i don't want to say there is nothing that falls into that category we have incredibly complex infrastructure which we have seen will be used against us with an incredibly innovative opponent of aid generally are learning organizations who it is the things we have not figured out yet that ought to trouble us. i suppose when i think about it we are in a race in terms of keeping our technological edge against opponents who

are making very good use of newly available technologies and always enabled that the barriers to entry are falling. we do worry about to wmd and the fact that every year goes by there are tens of thousands of people more capable and adept at using the tools of biotechnology. or who are very insightful looking at the holes in the infrastructure we saw exactly this kind of thing on december 25th where we saw a essentially a new kind of explosive device being deployed. my biggest concern is we're always on the edge and i would make sure we're on

point* with the technological aspect. what i losses sick talk about the challenge of having to change minds and social circumstances it will move people away from extremism is a very, very difficult challenge. it is not one that governments that have not is directly attended to so i think we're breaking new ground and i'm always hopeful we do so fast enough because we want to finally answer the question and say there are fewer terrorists on the street so of those of the two big challenges. >> mr. ambassador i am from the person of hope for tomorrow we've

fayed -- focus on the five months of the young people. i come from kenya i was there when we were bombed by terrorists and my comment is what you think about the u.s. working with the international community's? if you don't to don't endorse countries like afghanistan and kenya and africa that will work also with the women because this is by the and people who are recruited. it was not in nigeria so they go around to africa at it was wanting new to walk with the communities to vote understand where many an

indian peoples you can work with them in kenya and other african countries trading in working with the other people and i think it will help to remove for a leave some of the problems. they know themselves. this is my comment and i think the secretary of state very much. >> let me turn them into a question. [laughter] you use the term micro strategies. that is exactly where we are going. >> first of all, i was just didn't kenya and the embassy there endure ambassador and is working on these sorts of things for example, very serious about radicalization in the in nairobi neighborhood which has an enormous popular proposition

a somali refugees and that is a problem. we fully believe that working as i suggested to my remarks that working for the empowerment of women is an important strategy in this regard because that is both a strategy for property protection and diminishing rattled the was a chanel lot of communities in which women today don't have the tools to oppose radicals. sell both of those things are very important and every community is different this presents us with a real challenge because we have to have the basis of what to do in particular communities and work with partner governments and also ngos because frankly people who look like me should not be walking into some of the

neighborhoods -- neighborhoo ds to do social engineering. it is a complicated task and something we are in the early-- regarding and it is a challenge for governments to operate this way. it is a a good thing we are this is what it should be but vs. say reflection. >> i am a student at georgetown university and my question related to what you said about combating the narrative of the al qaeda that you referred to a number of times with what you talk about the micro strategies and laid out some of the elements of what is involved but also may be combating extremism and what i wonder as an official do think there are lessons to

be learned from governments and europe that have dealt with this longer and what those are? i am thinking the british government when i was in rolled home as security developing focused on this issue. thank you. >> we have a lot to learn from others that is why a i have someone in my office working on these issues right now and why we are talking to our partners in another man's and if other parts of you name it to undertaking in this area. i think we would make a big mistake interprets being exceptional listen to see weird viewed from radicalization i think i wrote to in the book before going into statistical inevitability we have been fortunate thus far to have a low level for all kinds of

complicated issues having to do with social mobility origins but we have a lot to learn from others and we should be honest enough with ourselves to say that. >> final question? >> ambassador thank you very much. i am an independent consultant of energy he mentioned the fact within the last year there has been increased cooperation with pakistan. bruce roy dow has also noted the same development but it is unclear as to why in fact, this is taking place. is it just because they realize now that it is in her own interests and had not zero courage to them before or are there other

extenuating circumstances which may resend step up their activity and to comment on iran's role in the commentary of terrorists? barren bruce asked me exactly that question. [laughter] and i want to get too speculative but i do think that an important part of what we are seeing is due to their growth of trust. our sense for example, was at the end of the strategic dialogue we had a very good exchange to take in this relationship to a higher level. the issue of the pakistani relationship and as been deeply troubled. there have the kids to we

did not the their interest at heart trying to accomplish our own schools and ivy the check for a very serious engagement, the court the she equipment and the efforts to do with it tonight concerns but we are making headway. i am not predicting progress will always be linear but i am hopeful that we will have the strategic patients and wisdom to stay engaged and see this through. a lot of people are investing all lot in this relationship and i think it is paying off and let's hope for the best for as far iran, it remains the premier state sponsor of terrorism in the world today. and that is obviously a huge

concern for the u.s. government. darman however a this has involvement with the sunni extremist groups is a complex and often murky story. we now in the past iran has spend and with out private individuals have come across our you not but when we look at the iranian state sponsorship we look at hezbollah, hamas and other palestinian rejectionist groups. i think you have seen press reports. >> insurgents just to barack

and afghanistan august the iran has a lot of concerns of us being on both sides of these supporters. the but in the effort to open a new dialogue the iranians have not responded. we are in a challenging situation at the moment that way there is not so it is the ongoing story. >> i am afraid our time has elapsed and he will be directed to a reception in the adjacent room. like to think of all of you for attending today and those who are watching today on c-span please join me in thanking daniel benjamin for the excellent presentation. [applause] [inaudible conversations] m network.

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