levying wordpro so much she tells me you have to be careful. you will do they will be wiretap. there and is none of that. he have some innate events. can understand why bob woodward has gone on. he is often troubled the fact i am an e touche klum sparc rican nine. follows mirage ago. -- me wherever i go i think that is a fair description. >> host: we will talk more but another hour and a half with our gaston booktv in death and more phone calls and also on line at to

twitter.com. we will be back in a moment. >> host: what is a normal workday like for you? >> guest: most mornings after i just my two or three newspapers and increasingly i take those online i stomped by print editions after 30 years, i exercise, i have a gem in the house and say stairmaster or a bike or a treadmill. where i read i continue to read that as a replace to get the juices goinghen i come up here typically at 2:00 and start on the day. it depends what phase i and then right now the office is pretty clean because i have

not bought zero of the documents i am working on right now but i tend to stick things up on the floor in very precise stacks someone know where everything is and my wife accuses meet of being a hamster. one is so i don't forget to and very accessible right now this is my book kurt and i am diving fifth pat to give a general overview of that is not interested in the deep specifics at this point*. but when i'm actually in the writing process, i have papers every where. i spend a lot of time doing original research with the primary documents i am gathering right now 15,000 pages of documents i am on

my eighth trip back the still be another 5,000 pages i will sort that and go through it and i currently go through to double check and a missing things. when i am right thing i am mad at the keyboard because it is such a passive activity i keep my stairmaster or stepper and will jump up. have but clock and alarm on one of the computers i have the facility to concentrate i can literally lose the world around me and find myself to three hours without moving. i got a pretty good case of purple tunnel in my right to rest of the very problem of working and not realizing the time i was spending in a bad posture and a risk but actually now i use my mouse with my left hand. i have switched and no ims

fast but i try to break up the pace of sitting the endless hours by jumping up onto the stepper just for exercise, estimate circulation and read there and make notes there is a wonderful piece of software in march for her five months and now called it converts to tax i have my book great there are a may not or may take notes on and then i e-mail it to my computer it is very handy. but for the digital age relive been it used to take a lot longer to go to the library but i also you say voice recognition software

that eases up the rest of i have a number of passages i need to pull out of a book i will dictate those rights and to my machine. i am very digital in my work. i also as i prepare my next book with the coming of the ipad i am thinking about multimedia with mrs. unique with public domain information buydown 1/2 to screw around with at rights to have the value added to this work and not many people for example, referred to the nixon tapes while the office tapes are turbo i a have those wrecking into my thing there are other multimedia i am thinking iquique's what can you do with the ipad? that is kind of fun.

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they would say how is your pre-to the so wife? i discovered actually wind doing the good rule quist joins and he is a prisoner of the until i heard him during one-on-one with others for accuracy use for example, it would bring the worst out to with mitchell was talking for a long time with more of a piers seeking advice what do you think? but with people like cory price in to me. he does months where he

didn't turn out like others when he has different people on the staff. [laughter] >> i laughed out loud nixon's take on with some here are the writers to chase down to put to limit on the sepracor we actually did seriously consider a woman, lilly hero had she not been shot down by the all-male panel of the aba they would have been on the court and later looked at her credentials equally as good if not panera and some regards but when listening to these tapes he would say things like to

mitchell, about 70 women and mike advent. thank god but my cabinet is so lousy maybe it does not make a difference probably for a man should even be educated. [laughter] here he has two lovely daughters he is very complex been met please describe the relationship to what i would be reluctant to do so. for example, i have some estate matters that had to be dealt with when he was doing a state planning i was the intermediary and he had me get the information from his wife rather than he got it from his wife and said it with the emails not every time i do it i think it might be richard nixon and try to send him an e-mail

and do that very sparingly. >> host: and sunday there was an article in the near times he said he had a target with your picture that he would throw darts. >> chuck and i have vine and off-again relationship he was out when i was there and i was on and is still working with nixon very, very late for cry have broken ranks and he has tried to break me and using only the hatchet tactics, chuckle was disappointed i would not join him on the christian right and he really did a little proselytize thing there to get me to to or a net with him and i think he was disappointed but my writings about those without

conscience and those are his politics and he is transferring was set of conservative politics or another and they happen to be very different from nine to seven we welcome your phone calls. i filed a defamation lawsuit my wife and i guess a group of revision is to had created a new story of watergate claiming that i actually learned about bill whole issue when mike wallace called me early one money morning asking me if i knew i was in the middle of

a new book coming out explaining i had unbeknownst to the fbi are watergate prosecutor or the senate watergate committee or the house impeachment committee i ordered the watergate break-in price said that that is news how did i do that? he said that is why we call the last questions before we go forward with you should understand what they are claiming is that you learned there was a call girl ring through the teensy through your wife that was associated with the madam of the call girl ring i said i can assure you that is not true percoset i will go on camera but will use and read the book to explain how they reach the conclusion? he said i can it is st. martin's press we have an agreement we will not release the book and we're

under a confidentiality agreement but i will tell you that "time" magazine is going to do a release. we will do our show on sunday night they released money two weeks before the show. he said you might get something from time but after i a agreed but i knew the principal watergate reporter and i said what is the story? he said i don't know i will call new your canned check but sure enough we're doing an excerpt. i don't know how they could buy this without running by the people who know the most but apparently they sign a confidentiality agreement in new york they will not send it to me your carl bernstein who was boss partner and u.s. much as anybody and

said this has raised questions for me and hayes said i called all the people i knew and i knew many because i covered the democratic national committee to see if there was a day call girl ring and one said i was a bachelor i would have been the number one customer if it existed. hayes says "wall-e" how some doubts i am not sure how this will happen but to make a long story short i call back to "60 minutes" and got back to time they both dropped the story which gave me new respect for they're not he learned very fix the but his comment was you'll have plenty of time to read this in the bookstores price said you will have a lawsuit

and they did so renamed the publishers, authors, and quickly learn to the silent collaborator was g. gordon liddy so we named him as well. lawsuit went on for nine years. would relearned the they spend $15 million fighting the spur growth i was in a fortunate position i could literally shut down my business and go at this full time. i had two goals. one was to win the lawsuit also to get enough information to show for historical purposes that this was just pure fraud. they had offered to set told very early and they wanted to defame and they did not get that but they did get nine years of litigation. it would settle i wish i could tell you of the settlement but unfortunately

it was confidential. we're allowed to say we are satisfied and we were satisfied. >> host: going back to something we talked about the teenine 1/2 meeting that took place this is an e-mail who said during that meeting was there a description of the attendees of the contents that you're to be retrieved the night before? during the meeting it did you describe the content? >> guest: i never saw the contents at that point*. what happened in fact, i just learned this yesterday the first person to find out if fund had an office safe he worked for ehrlich man at the top time he chaired

space where the plumber's operated and told he was not supposed to talk to them about what they were doing your how much she learned by osmosis, i don't know but he was called that saturday or sunday after the break and said i was told hunt is involved and his name came up in a new book. have you seen him more talk to him? he said recently. he said find out of the has an office and he said yes. and then we went up and found out to do the office it was locked in a report of us back but he the other was instructing the safe to be opened. i was not around i was at another meeting. i asked war fred had acted to go get the contents when

they opened the safe and brought to me in boxes and we gave some of them to the fbi and some back to the state department and some directly to pack and some were destroyed. >> host: did you ever intend to be a writer? >> guest: dimas the english literature american for the undergraduate provided a lot of creative writing as an under graduate at colgate. when a and reminded me arrow my first book debt eight years of age. there must be some instincts. the short answer is yes. when i got in business i seven i would like to relieve to the blind ambition the first book i struggled how to doing it

right i do not use research assistance but enjoyed it tremendously then went into business and i always said to myself when i retire fairly early as 60 i will spend those retirement years cranking out books i have done one per year ever since. >> host: welcome to the program. >> caller: in 1949 congressmen nixon sent a letter to his constituents to explain his vote with both sides of the letter 18 letters a copy on one and pronouns and it changed my perception and i voted for goldwater because size of the break-ins were done because of his compulsive

desire to win by a landslide. thank you. >> it is interesting mcgovern what i have come to know i met him first while doing a profile for the rolling stone in the republican convention and went to see him and he was wearing a blue suit and i said this man is so much more presidential than the president i worked for. in recent years he and i have shared a stage and we had an even to to join me and we have an awful lot of fun up there. we have no pre-plan program and we seem to interact for everything he is 87 and may we all be half as a sharp as he is that 87 per isi say we

had a pleasant french up. >> karl rove who was working at the time for george herbert walker bush asked a fundamental question he said i found it increasingly difficult to what good could have gone from burglar raising at the dnc use of that was his way to be an enormous defeat. why? >> the first time i heard curl grove sayre is time with a small file that had to do with him giving glasses to young republicans but nothing really developed of it. but i think his perception it is right and carl has been politically perceptive and what they don't understand is nixon was not calling the shots.

msi finally got together in the appendix for the new edition how the flung happen starting a couple years before him where they wanted and they were good about the way the democrats were doing and he wanted dirt on the mocrand constantly pushing him to get the dirty and the way he pushed very few places they could get it then you add into it to the catalyst, the itt scandal that arose in the spring of 72. this is when nixon was accused of having his administration settle the antitrust case for the

campaigner bravery there's a whole special investigation by the watergate prosecutor but it did not have been. what is forgotten and i put this together in sequence, his administration and attorney-general designate former attorney general are having the big cheeses kicked out of them buy the fed did accredits that is how he comes up with the added the heck that it was reactive but it he had a tip the they were getting kickbacks but kevin provided this tip band-aid that it was worth exploring and this is what they are looking 47 going back to the ideology. >> guest: one thing. he is a racist type

campaigner he wants to make sure he is very ahead and once the best landslide he can get. >> caller: will the future be determined by moderates like yourself remaining active in the party? >> guest: i am the independent i cannot tell you how many friends of mine you are very good republicans provided a lot of money to the republican party and they have decided they're not comfortable with republican politics anymore. it is too bad a lot of people in the business community feel the republicans are best for them. i am the insurer that is true but many more are on declaring themselves independence they go and where they think they can best spend their money because politics does require many increasing amounts i thought it was wonderful when obama's could raise the kind of money he

did to the internet that is a great resource we will see if it works against the united decision troubles me because it want corporations to be the backers of our presidential elections. >> host: you left the white house after spiro agnew was forced out did that surprise you? >> i did. in fact, we used to laugh and i saw him after the fact he was going on the up escalator i was going down in palm springs where he retired and we sat down he waved me to come back up and we sat down and reminisced over the last visit on one of the government small planes i think we were going to chicago they could not get the landing gear down. [laughter] we thought this might be our last flight. i was very surprised at what

happened to him and of course, the awful was timing just another thing i will appreciate how quickly things disintegrated. that was part of the picture to seven why jerry ford? >> guest: near-record indicates he was the most strongly recommended by a broad spectrum of people and i think nixon also thought he was a pretty good insurance policy because there would not be a push while he was confident that they would not push nixon out because he had little experience in foreign affairs so if nixon did have to leave the and there was a confident man but they would not want to shove him out. >> host: joining us from virginia beach go-ahead.

>> caller: it is so wonderful to talk to you mr. dean for car watched watergates in my early fifties one thing i have not heard about is loss of mitchell i used to watch this program and they said she was drugged and kidnapped and sent to california because she was talking too much. is that true? am i she was in california when that happens. i like martha and knew her well. she was a wonderful terming personality and southern and always the life of a party but unfortunately she had a drinking problem. if she had martinis she would give of the phone and most of the things she said

were terribly a century and and that was a sad part but it sheet is well remembered. >> ahead. thank you mr. dean for coming onto c-span and also when you are on the road but my question relates to your book which is fantastic and i appreciate that. i often ask my friends like you said why don't they take the republican party back? i wonder that it seems they narrow their focus on who can participate in their politics to the point* where i worry about them even though i appreciate the values i want tow