>> coming up on "espnews," tiger woods entered the final round of the master necessary contention, just four shots back. we have the latest on his spot on the leaderboard. his rival phil mickelson, had the crowd in awe of back-to-back eagles yesterday. how close lefty is to a third green jacket. >> the n.h.l. playoffs have not begun yet. don't tell the rangers and flyers, the winner post-season bound and the loser goes home. >> two of the best pitchers are going head-to-head, a showdown between two guys named roy. >> we are keeping you current

here on "espnews." along with ducis rodgers, mike yam with you. we will have everyone covered with plenty of afternoon baseball and pivotal basketball games. it is all about the masters. >> both golfers looking over their shoulders for a lurking tiger. another golfer they should have kept an eye on, one k.j. choi. take a look at him today. >> k.j. choi began the day four strokes off pace. he is four under on the day at 12 under par in a tie with phil mickelson for the lead. lee westwood gave one back on number nine. he's now in third place, one stroke behind the leaders. how about tiger woods? up and down day for woods. woods' final three holes on the front side, eagle on number seven, birdie on eight and nine and just parred 10. tiger woods looking at his card, as i just mentioned.

35 on the front side. tiger woods trying to get back in contention. k.j. choi's best finish at the masters? third back in 2004. he made the cut last year. >> reminder, once the masters champion is crowned, make sure you are right here with us, we will bring you complete coverage, including an interview with the winner and the losers, along with unmatched analysis. that is all here on "espnews." >> friday it could have been over. 82 games valid been it for the rangers and the flyers would be in the playoffs. two days ago new york came back to beat philly. both teams are playing in the playoffs, sort of. on final day of regular season,

rangers and flyers sit at 86 a piece and play for the final spot in the east. it is as close to a post-season field one team will have this season. rangers with momentum heading in to 7-1-1 in the last nine. first period, no score and jody shelley changes that with deflection there. second goal of the sen for him. both against the flyers. and breaking free and henrik lundqvist, though, the sweet. he is basically just a wall. another scoring opportunity for the flyers and they cannot punch it home. rangers up one after one and where we stand now in the third period is just the one goal difference off the stick from jody shelley. contest mark the third time in flyer history a playoff spot will be determined in the final game of the season and first time since 1972 flyers' fans, you got this stat? phillies 14-5-1 since the start

of january at home. >> two top teams in the eastern conference. lebron james sat out the last two games and today. mario moon there. fourth quarter reddick and one. converts three-point play to put orlando uch by four. five-point average. howard out for nelson. and book it. magic up by eight and nelson 17 points. 2:30 to go. nelson returns the favor. alleyoop to howard. get up and down and howard leads orlando with 22 points. magic win it 98-92. cleveland has lost three straight games for the second time this season. this is howard's 33rd 20-point 10 rebound game for the season. the two team split the season series. the magic win for the 13th time in the last 14 games. get this, orlando with 21 and five for the all-star break. the best mark in the nba during

that span. >> rubber match between the nationals and the mets at citi field. johan santana two-time cy young winner. bases loadd and josh willingham off the wall. and ball remain necessary play. two runs come in to score and rolling over rod barajas. and thrown out and willingham fans tis okay, the umpire reviews the play. they overturned the ruling and grand slam, fifth career grand slam and francisco rodriguez on the hill against willie harris. jogging to first base and tempers flaring a bit. low blood sugar, if i had to guess, if i had to guess here. i might be hungry right now. hernandez against his former

team. last time he threw seven plus shutout innings, he was a met and doing it against the nationals.  he is not far away from being able to contribute in the majors. >> baseball insider keith law is talking about that man, stephen strasburg and his performance. harrisburg senators. he was pretty impressive. five innings, four hits, only one earned. he struck out eight, throwing 82 pitches.

this guy can hit 102 on the guns. >> i'll see you and raise you one. >> the cuban player starting against toledo. four and two-thirds innings for chapman. five hits, one run, not earned. one walk. and get this. nine strikeouts, nine strikeouts making his pro debut in triple a louisville. >> mike leake , first player to be picked in the draft and skip the minor league completely. and brandon phillips there. fifth inning leake facing derek lee and lee has the number. back up the middle and a run comes in. still a strong start for leake , only run he will give up.

bottom of the seventh and soriano, don't got it. the reds tie the game later in the inning. bottom of the eighth, tied at one. and hernandez draws a walk. bases loaded and reds tack on one more in the inning to hang on for 3-1 victory. numbers for leake six and two-thirds innings. five strikeouts and seven walks. he gets a no decision. jay bruce one for 18 coming in, not the starting 6-foot-1-inch. he excelled in baseball, soccer, basketball and football. he chose to attend arizona state and went 16-1 with a 1.71 era for the sun devils last year. >> still to come, cc sabathia nearly no hits the rays yesterday. see what a.j. burnett does for an enchore. worried about your taxes ?

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>> ducis rodgers and mike yam back with you on "espnews." taking a look at the leaderboard, final round of the masters at augusta national. k.j. choi and phil mickelson,

neck and neck, each at 12 under par. k.j. choi, four under par on the day. he's now birdied two of the last four holes to move into a tie for the lead. lee westwood, one shot off the pace, he's plus one for the day. kim is nine under par. as far as tiger woods, up and down afternoon for him. he's at eight under par, four strokes behind the leader. once again, k.j. choi and phil mickelson. by the way, k.j. choi's best finish at masters was third all the way back in 2004. >> day after cc sabathia almost no hit the rays, new york, tampa bay, back at it. jorge posada, one on. hit off the former yankee. posada second of the year. last april he had three hits and almost has two home runs this

season. alex rodriguez has no problem hitting the baseball and hitting well. two for four. two rbis for him. yankees get it done and taking two out of three from the rays. 7-3 the final score. a.j. burnett improved to 6-0 with 1-7-6. he's 5-0 since joining new york. only two earned runs and seven innings. yankees scored six run necessary four of the first six games. ring position. >> blue jays trying to complete the sweep of the orioles for the first time since 2004. top of the eighth inning and batista just getting over the wall. getting it done. his first of the season. blue jays getting it done, they won five straight games. olex gonezalez seventh career multi-home run game.

lost five of six this season. >> white sox trying to avoid a fifth straight loss. remember that man? used to be a stud with the braves. he's pinch hitting here. that is stud lee. jones' third career pinch hit and first since 2003. scored in each of the final five innings of the game. twins down by one and jim thome off bobby jenks. pierre , get it in, son. j.j. thinks he can score. think again. not even close. gunned down base running. someone has to pay for that one, i would think, someone will get chewed out. >> chicago snaps a losing streak. three of the six hits, they are long ball variety. >> what is in a name? plenty if your name is roy. roy halladay and roy oswalt

share more than that. over the past decade, they have been two of the more dominating starters in all of baseball. today's phillies astros game is today's first meeting between the two roys. the astros and major league winless at 0-5. first batter is jimmie rawlings. his first of the year. 1-0 phillies on fielders choice. two runs plenty for roy halladay. and lee swinging in the fourth. in the fifth, j.r. breaking the ball. bottom of the ninth inning, pedro feliz, halladay still in and pop up and end the game. complete game for halladay. seven hits, one run, eight strikeouts. phillies sweep the series with 2-1 victory. that home run by rawlings, 34th lead-off home run of his career.

as far as houston, astros fall to 0-6, worst start since 1983. that year they began 0-9. as we mention, this was the first matchup between aces' roy halladay and roy oswalt since 2001. tied for mos in our image of how we, you know, take up arms and defend ourselves and then even in the end reach down to the defeated, the germans and the japanese and rebuild a society to probably where it's never been. everything about that was noble and good and turned out in a way, you know, obviously there may have been parts not down on the ground. but in a general sense it did. and ever since then, we've been trying to repeat that. and the kinds of conflicts we found ourselves in, whether it's a vietnam -- i spent two tours there as bruce mentioned. whether it's an iraq or afghanistan or whether it's a somalia. these aren't the same kinds of conflicts. in the war in vietnam, our

soldiers did not come home to crowds that appreciated them and gave up their seats on an airplane. we couldn't wear our uniforms by the way as those of you that are vietnam veterans might remember. we at least learned a lesson not to turn antiwar or anti a particular war to our shame, i think, in our culture. and we go out of our way not to let that happen. but we have to remember the kinds of conflicts today put that greater strain -- i sat at a table at an event next to a man that had received the medal of honor in world war ii. and the extraordinary heroism that this individual demonstrated as a young officer was beyond belief. and in the course of the discussion, you know, the speakers they were talking about somalia and vietnam and these other wars that had come after his time. he turned to me and he said, you know, i couldn't do that. i couldn't do what you did. meaning the young people who

were out there in the audience. i said you got to be kidding. a medal of honorary. you're legendary in the corps. he said, you know, i knew who the enemy was. i knew where the front lines were. i knew when we were going to fight and when we were going to stop, you know, and he said to know that you don't know -- you don't know that individual is the enemy, you don't know if there's a rear area or a front line -- you have that continuous pressure on you 24/7 of not knowing. you have that unbelievable feeling when you try to do something good and noble when it backfires on you. when someone don't appreciates what your intentions are. when you take a you think quoperson that's 17, 18, 19 years old in any war and expose them to the carnage and the brutality that some of us in this room have seen, that goes against everything a young mind has experienced and knows the difference between right and wrong and what or shouldn't be. what is morally correct and incorrect. all begins to blur.

and trying to piece it together and trying to understand it. and i think only now are we beginning to recognize this. and we're just at the embryonic stages of understanding how to treat it and prevent it. we put our young soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines under tremendous pressure. and expose them to things that are unbelievable. things that they could never imagine in their young lives they would see. and to try to take them from that environment within hours flying them right back and put them back into civilization, into a family, into the, quote, normal life, that is tough. for an 18, 19, 20-year-old to put all together in some cases. i think we are beginning to make the right approaches in understanding and appreciating that these issues need to be dealt with in the chain of command, the leadership. this isoát not just a doctor's a psychiatrist problem. this is a leaders problem.

they have to see that their leaders understand. their leaders want them to do well. their leaders appreciate what they're going through. because in the past to admit to something like this was unsoldierly. was unmanly. we've taken that down maybe not in all cases but we recognized this is as much a problem as if you had a physical injury. but we have a long way to go. >> the question is what -- the one individual item that maybe the most important in management and what the success of that organization. i have been in management my entire life practically and i come up with the idea that there is one overwhelming item.

and interestingly enough, i have not heard that word from you. and this word is stressed. unless the people working for you can trust you, you will not be able to get your ideas through even if you have great ideas. if the people working on there you don't trust each other, the organization won't work. and if your boss doesn't trust you, you are doomed in that organization. so i think the trust is probably the most important there. i would like to hear your views on that. >> well, first of all thank you. and i think that's an excellent point. my question is how do you build trust? you build it through competence, proper behavior and the right way to treat your people. that builds trust. and i think those were the three things that people fail in, in leadership. if you accomplish them. but it begins with competence. i'm not going to trust somebody who is not competent.

that person may be the nicest person in the world and the most honorable person in the world. but you know the old say good old dog but can't hunt. and so number one i want that person to know what he or she is doing. because the success of the organization -- my personal success the accomplishment of the mission will be based on that person's confidence and competence. trust is given. and trust is only given if you earn it. and i should have used the word. i take your point. but i think the things -- i would hope the things i mentioned, competence, moral and ethical behavior, doing the right thing, and treating your people well are the three ways you earn that trust. >> general zinni, speaking to your point of organization, adapting to the present

realities perhaps terrorists with cell phones or whatever, in terms of roman history where the roman army switched from a conventional army fighting army in a conventional battle to doing border work-type patrols and change its capabilities, do you perceive a danger of -- if the u.s. army -- for example, reorganizes to optimize their structure towards terrorists, that we will lose the ability to fight a conventional war with tanks and bombers? >> i think what you're hitting on is one of the most significant problems that our military faces because of the budget constraints and where you invest in other issues of how you get resources. what kind of military should we have now? one of the things i've always said is you never fight the war

you prepare for. you know why? because you're prepared to fight it so nobody wants to take you on. always -- the corollary to that is always prepare for the war you don't want to fight. when we didn't want to fight the soviets in the folded gap and exchange nuclear weapons, we prepared ourselves. we made statements of policy like first use. we created a tremendous arsenal. all of which is, you know, oh, my god, what's happening? but it deterred the bad guy. the purpose of it was deterrence. and containment. and so no one wanted to get into that. what we have now in the military is they're facing a decision. and you use the term "optimizing." you're going to optimize at one end. and you're going to hedge at the other end. so where do you optimize and where do you hedge? if you optimize and invest in the conventional or worsened, because you want to ensure you don't to have fight it. you want the capability to deter adventure by potential enemies, it's going to leave you not as

prepared at the other end. and so you're going to be doomed to fight those kinds of wars. if you go back to the cold war, the way our enemies -- communists wanted to engage us was through surrogates, through insurgencies. and so they wanted to make sure those never blossomed into a confrontation that could lead to something bigger between china, the soviet union and you say in the west. so we fought them in vietnam. and latin and south america and other places and we fought them through surrogates or we fought them on our own. and so the enemies we face today are going to look at where we are best or least prepared. and so that becomes a tough decision. you're not going to invest tremendous amounts of resources in something that maybe less a threat to your very existence. so i would predict that you'll probably see some major programs cut. like we've just seen that the

f-22 was cut, the army future combat system was cut. but we'll still preserve enough of the advantage in these areas to make sure no one gets too adventuresome. we have to be careful of the risk. if you cut your advantage too close, there could be a surprise from the enemy that jumps a generation or two ahead. and we will handle these other kinds of conflicts, counterinsurgency, counterterrorism as best we can within the context of that kind of military. that isn't to say we won't write the doctrine. we won't do things to at least try to train, organize and equip to meet that. but the priorities will be for the larger, more dangerous potentially threats, i think, in the long run. but what you've hit on is exactly what the secretary of defense, the chairman of joint chiefs, the service chiefs all the combatant and commanders to have face. where do you optimize and where do you hedge? there's in the enough in terms of resources we know to be all things to all people in both areas. thank you.

>> good afternoon, general. i wanted to ask a question based upon your experience arising to high command in the military. and now being on boards of directors for 10 years, about the crisis in american business leadership. we have the example of ceos that are paid 20 times what people on the floor are paid due to compensation committees in boards of directors. we have the enron case where the smartest men in the room led a large company right off a cliff. and, of course, we have our current banking crisis where the same thing happened. did you learn anything in the military that would help american business? >> yeah. certainly. and i think -- and i can speak for the companies i've been responsible for. the first thing -- let me take those individually. leadership compensation, i don't think anybody should be -- especially when it comes to the

area of bonuses and other things that go on top of a salary. those things should not be given unless -- not only are they personally earned but the organization in the company has met its goals. in other words, you know, you could -- you could say well, here's tony zinni. he's the ceo of x, y, z company. well, we on the board we think he did a good job. we think we'll give him an 80% bonus to this money. and the company hasn't met its goals or the top line or the bopping line. -- bottom line. the leader should not be compensated in a different proportion to the success of the organization. i mean, to me that's a definition of leadership. ... hear now that well, he did a great job, the company did so well but because of other factors, the economy, doesn't matter. again going to your other point, the person on the floor is going to fill that. there'll be layoffs, salary cuts, maybe not bonuses pays or phrases.

the top in the bottom by the boards of directors, by the stockholders have to be held accountable in the same proportion. and they grew too. the extraordinary about the salaries and bonuses and other awards that are not rated aced on the performance of the companies have gotten out of sight. the second thing i think which is a reality and were going to have to face and i think is necessary is we need more regulation. we need more inspection, we need more regulatory organizations, we n securities exchange commission that really has teeth in it goes after. i also think in some industries icp is not as much as i would like. some industries are beginning to self regulate, create industries that are both dependent and can come down on industry and members of the industry and that's their purpose. now what you have to be sure if they are monitored commandeered sure not to have people in there that are someway benefit from

protecting or covering or not investigating. unfortunately, we've arrived in a position in almost every area where we need this kind of scrutiny. we do have no greater media scrutiny in all this. we do have now overall better informed stakeholders, meaning for the direct your and stockholders and others that are becoming more demanding and all this, which i think is good. part of my job in the company and what does a parent company that is british, but we have the american subsidiary. part of my job on the board as enough a direct dirt is to ensure that this company not only complies with the american rules and american ethical standards and regulation, but this also complies with our security and other things that we do. so they hold the outside direct roots of the board accountable, the u.s. government. him and a government security committee that reports to the

defense security service has to answer to this. data and unique in this given structure, but the idea that board members now, not just ceos, beauport members get held accountable, that's a good thing because in the past you just said your four meetings a year, you listened what the president that, voted yes on everything and you collected your check and went home. nowadays you better have insurance to protect yourself because people are going to sue you. stockholders will sell you, there's government regulation have to be have to be on to and maybe that's where we need to continue to put the emphasis to ensure these kinds of things that don't happen, that is no shock to follow. fortunately, these kinds of things, just as you mentioned, are coming out in enforcing the industry to correct to. my advice to people that i talk to is you are the ultimate controller of the. don't buy something from a company if you don't like the way they do business.

don't put your savings account and your cds, don't do business with the financial organization. you have the greatest power over all this. you know, put your money in your investment and your business to where you are satisfied that there's moral behavior. i'm getting a green sign telling me it's over. [applause] so thank you very much. [applause]

>> arundhati roy talks about your new collection of essays on the u.s. war on terror, democracy in india on india and pakistan relations. during this, ms. roy reads from her book in an essay she just wrote entitled walking with the comments. seattle arts and lectures hosting our 35 minute talk.

[applause] >> thank you beard thank you area much for that reception. so, i'm going to read a little bit from "field notes on democracy." it's really a kind of meditation about what democracy has become. and then, i'm going to read from an essay i just wrote called walking with the comment because i just came back from spending a few weeks a couple of weeks in the jungle with the indigenous resistance to what's going on in a war that's been announced by the indian government. so let me just start with reading from democracy is failing light.

while we're still arguing about whether there is life after death, can we add another question to the card? is there life after democracy? what sort of life is there going to be? by democracy, i don't mean democracy as an idea or an aspiration. i mean the working model, western liberal than democracy and experience such as they are. so is there life after democracy? attempts to answer this question often turn into a comparison of different systems that government and end with a somewhat, tape defense of democracy. it's flawed we say. it isn't perfect, but it's better than everything else that's on offer. inevitably, someone in the room

will say afghanistan, pakistan, saudi arabia, somalia, is that which you would prefer? whether democracy should be the utopia that all developing societies aspire to as a separate question altogether. developing is an inverted common. i think it should read the early idealistic faith can be quite td. but the question about life after democracy is addressed to those of us who already live in democracy or in countries that pretend to be democracies. it isn't meant to suggest that we lack into older discredited model subtotal terry and ortho taurean governors. it's meant to suggest that the system of representative democracy, too much representation and too little democracy needs some structural adjustment.

[laughter] the question here really is, what have we done to democracy? what have we turned it into? what happens once democracy has been used up, when it has been hollowed out and emptied his meeting? what happens when each of its institutions has metastasized into something dangerous? what happens now that democracy and the free market have fused into a single predatory organism with a thin constricted imagination that revolved almost entirely around the idea of maximizing profit? is it possible to reverse this process? is something that is mutated go back to what it used to be? what we need today for the sake of the survival of this planet is long-term regime. and governments whose very survival depends on immediate extract the short-term gain provide this? could it be that democracy, the

sacred answer to our short-term hoops and prayers, the protector of our individual freedoms and are sure of our avaricious streams would turn out to be the endgame for the human race? could it be that democracy is such a hitch with modern humans? precisely because it mirrors our greatest folly, our nearsightedness. our inability to live entirely in the present like a most animals do, combined with our inability to see very far into the future makes us strange in-between creatures, neither beast or profit. our amazing intelligence seems to have outstripped our instinct for survival. we plan to the earth hoping accumulating material surplus will make up for that profound unfathomable thing that we have

lost. as a writer, a fiction writer, i've often wondered whether the attempt to always be precise, to try and get it off actually write, somehow reduces the epic scale of what's really going on. is it eventually mask a larger truth? i worry that i'm allowing myself to be rerouted into offering factual precision when maybe what we need is a transformative power and real precision of poetry. something about the coming grammatical intricate era craddick, filed bound, applied to proper channels nature of government and subjugation in india seems to have made the clock of the knee. my only excuse is to say it takes our tools to uncover the

maze of subterfuge and hypocrisy that cloaks the callousness and the cold calculated violence of the world favorite new superpower. repression to proper channels, sometimes engenders resistance through proper channels. as resistance goes resistance enough, but for now it's all i have heard perhaps someday it will become the underpinning for poetry in fort the fear of house. listening to grasshoppers, the essay from which this book draws its subtitle, i gave in january 2008 on the first anniversary of the assassination of the armenian journalist, around being. he was shot down on the street outside of his office for daring to raise a subject that is forbidden in turkey, the 1915 genocide of armenians in which more than 1 million people were

killed. my lecture was about the history of genocide and genocide denial in the old almost organic relationship between progress and genocide. i've always been struck by the fact that the political party in turkey that carried out the armenian genocide was called the committee for union and progress. most of the essays in this collection are in fact about the contemporary correlation between union and progress, or in today's idiom between nationalism and development. those unimpeachable twin towers of modern free-market democracy. both of these in their extreme form are as we know now encrypted with the potential of bringing about apple at destruction, nuclear war or climate change.

but the battle for land be live at the heart of the developing debate in india. before he became india finance minister, he was a loyal board of a number of direct heirs of a multinational mining corporation that's currently devastating -- perhaps his career graph informed his worldview other way around. but in an interview last year, and he said that his vision was to get 85% of india's population to the insidious. that would mean moving something like 500 million people off their land. that process is well underway and the quickly turning india into a police state in which people who refuse to surrender their land are being made to do so at gunpoint. perhaps this is what makes it so

easy for government to move so seamlessly from being finance minister to be in home minister. the portfolio that separated only by osmotic membrane. underlying this nightmare masquerading and vision is a plan to free up mass tracts of land in all of india's natural resources i'm a lead in memory for corporate lender. in effect, to reverse the postindependence policy of land reform. already forests, mountains and water systems are being ravaged by a marauding multinational corporations backed by a state that has lost it moldering in this committing what could only be called ecocide. in eastern india, bauxite and i know my name is destroying whole ecosystems turning fertile land into desert. in the himalayas the consequences of which can only be catastrophic.

in the plains embankment built along rivers offensively to control flood has led to rising river bed, causing even more flooding, more water lobbying, more agricultural land and the destruction of livelihoods of millions of people. most of india's holy rivers, including the dog a husband turned into unholy drains that carry more sewage and industrialist fluid than water, hardly a single river runs its course and meet the ocean. based on the absurd notion that a river flowing into the sea is a waste of water, the supreme court to an inactive unbelievable hubris has arbitrarily ordered that india's river the interlinked like a mechanical water supplies than, implementing this would be turning to mountains and forests, altering the national

contours of drainage systems that are based and then destroyed dealt a. in other words, wrecking the ecology of the entire subcontinent. the judge to pass this order joined the board of coca-cola after he retired. nice touch. [laughter] the regime of free-market economic policies administered by people who are blissfully ignorant of the fate of civilization that grew too dependent on artificial irrigation has led to a shift in cropping patterns. sustainable food crops suitable to local selling possessions have them replaced by water guzzling hybrid and genetically modified cash crops, which apart from being wholly dependent on the market are so heavily dependent on chemical fertilizers, pesticides, irrigation and indiscriminate mining of groundwater. as abused by her man saturated

with chemicals, gradually becomes exhausted and inverts out, agricultural input costs rise. and daring mall stables in a.job. over the last few years, more than 180,000 indian farmers have committed suicide by junking pesticide. while the state turn generates are bursting with food that literally rots, starvation and malnutrition approaching the same level as sub-saharan africa stock the land. truly 9% growth rate is beginning to look like a downward spiral. the higher this kind of -- the rate of this kind of growth, the worst i've knows this any oncologists will tell you that. it's although an ancient society didi under the weight of feudalism was turned in a great machine.

the churning has ripped through the qualities, recalibrating some of them but reinforcing most. now the old society has coded in separated into a thin layer of cream and a lot of water. the cream is in the us as many million consumers of cars, cell phones, computers on the valentine's day greeting cards. the envy of international business. the water is of little consequence. it can be sloshed around, stored in holy ponds and eventually drained away. or so they think the amendment to. they didn't bargain for the violent super war that has broken out in india's heartland. so this was written a few months ago and that actually the government went ahead and formally announced they were.

it's called operation green hunt and it's a war were 70,000 military troops are closing in on the forests of central india to quash what the government calls a maoist rebellion. there is a maoist rebellion, but there's a whole stack down of resisting like a biodiversity of resistance, and you know, from nonviolent to armed struggle and everything in between. everybody has been called a maoist. i mean, the atmosphere is so ugly that it's hard to explain. the television channels, many of them are like fox on coke coming in now? seriously. [laughter] they have -- many of them have mining industries. of course 90% of them comes from corporate advertising. so they're completely invested in this process.

and recently basically the privatization of my name means that the government to less than 10% of the royalties, i don't how to say it in dollars. that can be a problem. anyway, if the government gets something like 27 i think that 30 cents or some thing. the private corporation makes more than $100 on everyone. just the bauxite worth $2 trillion. so there's such a lot of money at these companies can buy holy governments. they can buy the media, they can by judges, they can by journalists. they can run newspaper channels. so it's a very, very bizarre

situation and the people in the forest, the indigenous people are living in conditions which can only be described as close to famine. and these are the poorest people in this country against whom this board is being declared. and of course, the usual thing is happening. you know, anyone who was trying to be speak out is labeled a terrorist or called a maoist. in fact, in 2000 but come and they started this people militia and forcing them to move into police camps in this district. it was like the u.s. policy in vietnam. you know, strategic county were you make them come and live on the roadside of that you can control them. and something like 50,000 villagers moved into police camps, but 300,000 just went off

the government radar. they were hiding in the forest or they migrated to other places. and you know, there was something like 600 villages were emptied, you know, many of them were burnt. many hundreds of people were killed. and you know, the maoist army became stronger and stronger because people started to join them. but then the government started calling anybody who spoke up a maoist. so even the people's union for civil liberties, the peaceful union for democratic rights, all of them have been named a front organization. laws have been passed which makes even in games and antigovernment tort on a shovel by seven years in jail. the public security act, special public security act. they actually announced that

those who don't move into these camps are a terrorist. it's a bush doctrine. if you're not with us, you're a terrorist. so suddenly just staying at home and looking after your chickens or so in muirfield became dangerous terrorist activities, which qualified you for execution. so this is the kind of terror that has been unleashed in these areas. so a few weeks ago, i'll read it to you. i got a note left under my door inviting me to go into the forest spirits of the government has more or less around this. no one is allowed to go in. journalists are not allowed to go in. in fact, there's a recording that i have of the superintendent of police in that area was instructing his men to burn villages that don't surrender and to shoot any journalist that comes into

kabul. so it's a kind of black hole where there's only this kind of noise and the noise is actually providing a wall of silence, and you know, a noise, a sort of propaganda within which is a well of silence. so, a few weeks ago i was invited to -- i got a message from the resistance asking me whether i would go and. so i did and i spent two and a half weeks in the forest with them and came out and wrote this very long piece. it's about 20,000 words and i'll just read you the beginning of it before i actually, you know, reach the heart of it. it's published. you can read it on the net. it's called walking with the comrades.

the typewritten note slipped under my door in a sealed envelope confirmed my appointment with india's greatest internal security threat. that's what the india prime minister said, that this ragged army was the greatest internal security threat in india. then he said the stocks of the mining company shot up once they realized that he was now ready to do something about it. the conference my appointment of india's bravest internal security threat. i've been waiting for months to hear from them. i had to be there monday to the temple as any forgiving times on two given dates. that was to take care of bad weather, blockades, transports, and sheer bad luck. the note said, writers should have camera, chica and coconut.

hindi outlook magazine and bananas. last night [laughter] the password will be -- i wondered whether the meter and creature would be expecting a man and whether i should get myself a mustache. [laughter] very many ways to describe ponte right off. it's an oxymoron. it's a border town >> in the heart of india. it's the epicenter of a war. it's an upside down inside out town. the police were plainclothes and the rebels were uniformed. the jail superintendent is in jail. the prisoners are free. 300 of them escaped from the old town jail two years ago. women who've been are in police custody. the gives speeches in the bazaar.

across in the area of controlled the maoist is the place the police call pakistan. they're the villages are empty but the forests are full of people. children who want to be in school run wild. and the lovely forest villages, the concord school buildings have either been blown up and lie in a sheep or they're full of policemen. the deadly war that's unfolding is a war that the government of india is both proud and shy of. operation green hunt has been proclaimed as well as tonight. india's home minister and ceo of the world does it doesn't exist, that it's a media creation. and yet, substantial funds have been allocated to it and tens of thousands of troops have been mobilized for it. the antagonist in the forest are desperate and unequal and on

most every way. on one side is a massive paramilitary force armed with the money, the firepower, the media and the hubris of an emerging superpower. on the other, ordinary villagers armed with traditional weapons backed by a superbly organized hugely motivated now it guerrilla fighting force have been extraordinarily and violently free of armed rebellion. a maoist in the paramilitary rl groceries and afford each other several times before. each time it seems as though the maoist are their previous have not just been defeated, but literally physically exterminated. and actually the maoist party, or at word of precursor sometimes in 1967 in west bengal in india. and since then, the state has

crushed them i mean just in the 70 something, like 80,000 people were killed. an earlier than not in the state in the 50's when it wasn't the maoist party, the communist party. but it's been a very, very violent legacy. but each time they reemerged more organized, more determined and more influential than ever. today once again beat insurrection has spread to the mineral rich forest of west bengal, homeland to many of india's tribal people, dreamland to the corporate world. it's easier on the liberal conscience to believe that the war in the forest is a war between the government of india and the maoist who called elections a sham, parliament a pig sty and that openly declared their intention to overthrow the indian state. it's convenient to forget that the tribal people of central

india have a history of resistance that predate them out i centuries. this legacy of rebellion has left behind a serious people who have been deliberately isolated and marginalized by being a government. in 1950, the indian constitution ratified colonial policy and made the state custodian of tribal homelands. ..