return and that was a very different one and at the very end of the war every new japan had absolutely no chance of winning so the vice admiral of the navy team up a very crazy idea that at the nuclear age he felt the only means for japan was to use the japanese soul, s-o-u-l to face death without hesitation so they came up with a one-way mission and by that time the government had the

university twice so unless you are an educational science everyone has to be drafted so the kamikaze pilots about 4,000 perished at that day in the war, 3,000 or so or boy pilots, they were trained very early and they were much more susceptible to propaganda that nobody died without hesitation but we don't have any records whereas 1,000 of intellectual cream of the crop, graduates from the university of tokyo and other top universities and students read german, greek, french, philosophy, literature, all of that in their original languages and they were enormously

educated and they did not have a choice but quote on quote while i am here -- connect knous volunteers is what the researchers found? >> yes and so i went through the diaries and it was fascinating of course at some point they feel they should protect their own country and they say otherwise they are usually mothers and others would be raped and all that propaganda. like homeland attacks, that is a very much catchphrase whenever you want to strip patriotism -- was durham of patriotism. there is a tremendous interesting process where there

were vaccinations and all of that but none really die willingly. >> how were they trained and how were they chosen? >> while in the first place they were drafted. they didn't have any choice and then there was a japanese military notorious for their corporal punishment and so i don't know why they did that before the tremendous corporal punishment if one of the members of the corps would misbehave and then one day they were summoned in the hallway and told those who do not want to volunteer or who want to volunteer a step ahead and by that time they

became the comrades on the base through this corporal punishment so it was very difficult for them to say i am going to serve my life you have to go. so many of them volunteered unwillingly and if they didn't [inaudible] -- all seven fronts. so it really was a point of no return. >> where do you find the diaries? >> the very first published by the father of brother privately because they said it was meaningless but then they did not want them to just be

forgotten so when i started to contact them i was afraid they may not even give permission but in fact they can grateful i am introducing to the international readership. >> what myth do we have about kamikaze pilots that you this bill in your new book? >> i think there is a tremendous miffed that of 9/11 they started to say the kamikaze pilots were a role model for the jihadists and it was very difficult for americans when 1944 they were attacking very scared for people who risked their lives. the thing is they all told

soldiers to kill enemies but then this particular symbolism given to the japanese soul is to die. as the expenditure a blossom connection because it cherry blossoms on the front of the book also. spry with a given to the pilots? >> actually be a devout christian worked with madame curie and all of those for the league of nations wrote the warriors' way first in english and he said the japanese soul in the cherry blossoms are both indigenous to japan. so this so-called japanese soul which enabled them to die without hesitation was

symbolized by cherry blossoms and so when at the end of the war in 1944 they started this when we mention he adopted a cherry blossom symbolism and so all of the kamikaze pilots had one cherry blossoms on the side in pink. so another historical process whereby at the end of the 19th century when japan realized every other country in east asia was colonized and that is how they took place sleeping without realizing geopolitics. so from that on her before 89

imperial constitution on japan was drafted and actually they accepted article 1 were written by her german scholars, legal scholars. but any way from then on and on the started to use falling cherry pedals as the model for warriors and soldiers to die for japan. >> are there any surviving and did you talk to any surviving kamikaze trained pilots when writing your book? >> yes, there was one. the very well-known historian was being trained and he was on the base and was absolutely helpful in and telling me what the moral was at the end and if

you're seeing a patriotic song he would be quote by your comrades. >> why? >> because nobody believed in patriotism or winning a the war anymore. >> so they knew it was over? >> yes. it is very clear 1942 the start to write. there's no chance of japan winning the war. >> in 1942? >> yes. and they started to give all kind of rationalization why they have to die i think not outsiders know that marxism was very strong in japan and so so many of them would say if i die and then advanced capitalism is destroyed by attacking the u.k.

and u.s. as well as japan may be there is meaning for my death. estimate how did you find out about these dying rays and get interest in this topic? >> actually i did not know just like many japanese did not know that is part of the reason my book was very welcome in japan because people just forgot and they never connected this military militarization of cherry blossoms to other meanings of tree blossoms so i started out by going to the cherry blossom but the interesting part about one of the symbol is one end is the symbol of international

friendship which was started out [inaudible] last year i had a distinguished chair of modern culture the library of congress so i gave a talk when the cherry blossoms were in full bloom about this. so they inaugurated this custom of japan giving a cherry blossoms or sending an cherry plants all over the world. >> that was 1911? >> yes. >> where were you born? >> to pantry d'aspin and when did you come to the u.s.? >> in the stone age. [laughter] >> were you at all alive during world war ii? >> yes, i was little. i don't remember anything except

my mother who was always protected and never had to do anything except all the servants did started to go to black markets and the stock and good food for us so that when we were to be in the shelter we wouldn't be scared with all this good food. >> do you remember the shelter? >> i was nearly shocked and said japan could not afford to close the schools at the end of the war. so my elementary school kept open every day we go and then we would run home and one time i was running home and an american plan came and started to shoot me so i got into the ditch and went about contentious debate --

10 inches and it missed but my mother came looking for me. as the medusa lose your big house after the war? >> 75% of japan had a carpet farming summoning of them were bombed. it was the third big city to be carpet bomb. >> what was your father's profession? >> he was a businessman and in fact it was interesting because he was saved by two americans in 1923 earthquake and so they brought my father in and then the two americans were captured as prisoners in guam but were sent to corbeil so another

started sewing quilting clothing and we helped them not only the two fellows but others. >> you have to do it quietly? >> my father was buttressed by police. one time we were at the russian easter and the kids were fascinated by all that and my father disappeared because the police were following us. >> they thought he was disloyal to the emperor? >> anybody who had much to do with foreigners was a suspect. >> so how did you get to the u.s. and did you ever think you would come here after being bombed? >> they were prisoners of war left a will that his widow has to take but that didn't

materialize because i think the business didn't do as well so that this kind of a point of idea so i never had -- i was raised to be a housewife. so. [laughter] never had a mission to be professional. my parents spoke in french when they talked about money because we were supposed to be innocent. [laughter] >> did your parents come with you? >> no i came alone. none of us had any idea of the u.s. and i always think it was so nice i was so ignorant. [laughter] >> why? >> because you don't anticipate. it was wonderful not to be

raised to have no ambition because you don't suffer if you don't achieve anything. >> what do you get if it happens? >> it was a hobby and i was not terribly interested. >> so, kamikaze die aires was published in japan when and what was the response? >> there was -- it wasn't a translation. it always has to be adjusted to the japanese readers. >> and what did that mean? >> because certain things i have to explain more for their readers out slight and a son of the things i don't have to explain to the japanese readers. and so i believe it came either before or right after so right after this week i'm still going

to japan and i will be giving a lecture yes at the international house of japan. >> emiko's bouck kamikaze diary is reflection of japanese students soldiers published by the university of chicago press. who is this on the cover? >> this is a graduate of the university of tokyo and this is the photograph before the day of his death and his brother who was a professor gave me permission to -- >> his brother is still living? >> was his kamikaze mission successful? >> no. none of them are. other than the first attack the missions for all failures

militarily. >> thank you for sharing a few minutes with us. >> thank you. next a portion of book tv's monthly three our live program "in depth." >> i live in northwest washington near the walter reed army hospital with. if i go for a rum i can run into the spring from here just about a mile or so. dimare subway stop is the tacoma redline and not far from here is where we've recently had a huge accident where nine people were killed so that gives you the sense of where we are in washington. an area of the city that was

reserved for people who were on vacation when able lincoln was president his summer place was now on the ground of the veterans hospital and that is about halfway between here and a downtown washington. takes about 20 minutes to drive downtown. for the summer cottage for people who wanted to come even further up to get away from the small negative and humidity all-around foggy bottom and the potomac in the summer would come here, the highland tacoma a little closer to heaven is what it literally means and i remember when my dad first came here i grew up in brooklyn new york and when my dad first came and visited he said to me you didn't tell me i moved to the suburbs. it ought to live in the city. i said i do live in the city this is washington, d.c.. but the idea that it was a single-family detached house, you know, that was a with a

little backyard and postage stamp in front of the guard to him suggested it looks pretty suburban to me. but that is a guy living at that time on the 22nd floor of a big building in brooklyn. that is where i grew up. because i am a working journalist there is no typical day of working on a book for me. the books have to fit into my other responsibilities to fox news and national public radio and to the columns i am doing and speeches i am giving. so it has to fit into what is a very sort of scheduled, heavily scheduled life at the difficulty is i need structure and i need consistency because i think there is nothing more intellectually rigorous than doing a book.

what it requires is i get up a little earlier rye storrar delete kristen a little later. sometimes it requires that simply if i am traveling that day i make a commitment to myself with my laptop in my hand that i am going to learn something that day as to the content of the book so it could be i am doing research or it could be i am working on i think is key to the understanding of the subject for this larger chapter trying to refine it but i make a commitment to myself that no matter what is going on in my day the book becomes the touchstone of a comeback to and i will spend time with the but no matter what it requires in terms of losing sleep or taking time away from another task whether it is radio tv or newspaper work.

typically buy laptop save him to this desktop. but a lot of that takes place because i am moving around at my wife also uses it for her office for her business stuff and the family bills and the like and she plays games on the computer and she's got photos and things like that. this is the place where i received the material. but it's also a place where a fight truly am struggling with a concept and idea this is where i come, this kind of becomes my sanctuary and the place i can feel most i am at work on the book. if you look around this room it intends to get colcord with picks because the complaints of reference. so if i am working on a book a to queens and you guys can see the computers and the keyboards

and the screen but my wife would just complete about how junkie it is like how can it work in that environment. but for me it suggests i am in my element. i've got my books and the things i love and need and intellectual sparks that get me going in terms of my own writing and that is just too i am. i guess that is the way i work. so, for example there are three computers here. one is buried under a stack of newspapers here. but there is a third computer here hidden away and then there is this one and the big one and i can have three programs running. i can be riding on the big computer for example over here and then here i can have something like when i was doing let's say the marshall ebook, the marshall biography i would have a chronology of his life every day of his life lead out

those from the day that he was born in july of 1908 today that he died. every day have a notation and if i knew anything about that date it would and in a chronology. secure is a printed version of the chronology i was telling you about that i used on the marshall book to list every date in his life and then to list any advance but i knew about that took place on that stage. but in fact chronology starts even before marshall is born for example here is a date, july 23, 1867. and the reason that i have this in chronology is to give people and me as a writer the sense of what became before his life and here you will see on this site july 23rd 1867 an ordinance providing the education of the children of colored parents in the city of baltimore and here is all part of what is written as the ball of the period and

you can understand the kind of civil rights movement that is taking place in the immediate aftermath of the civil war in a city like baltimore maryland as black parents insist on some kind of public education for their children and of course this is directly relevant to thurgood marshall's story because he is the maestro if you will of prom the board of education of 1954. so literally, you know, almost a hundred years later is the child if you will let this moment back on july 23rd week of this ordinance providing the education of colored people in baltimore. and it would help me in terms of trying to map out significant moments and transitions and make sure that i was always in touch about moving forward in the narrative and then on another computer i could have research

material that would break out in larger sense for example beaches the documents come supreme court ruling, other works that had been done about and could be operating in that and interviews that i did so that the interviews if i pop up something on chronology and is says he was in new orleans' louisiana on this date and i know that he was visiting with someone and then i go to that person's widow suddenly iset interview and i can say that's the point of reference, that is what i am looking for then i can make a decision as to whether or not i want to reference eight it is just background yupik in passing or was it an actual quote i wanted to pull from her and use in the narrative that it helps the story along. then of course the big computer i would use for the actual writing of the book. the key i would say to any young person who said i want to do my

first book is this is not to be entered into lightly. you have to believe and the ability shoot a project and to get ready for those moments of doubt, and sidey, sleepless nights, the wife and my sleeping when i should be working. they just excess with book writing. why all eyes are tired? why shouldn't i try another hour and then you realize you are not getting anything done and why can't i get up an hour earlier and why am i agreeing to have dinner with this person and i could be working. everything becomes competition to your jealous lover and it is a book.

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greatest financial crime in history over the course of the decade he sold $65 billion from money investors all over america. so you are a chartered financial analyst holder as well as a certified fraud analyst and have a background in the financial industry and then as an independent fraud investigator. tell about what this means. what does it mean to be a quantitative analyst you describe yourself chartered. what does this mean in terms of for what you do every day in and why you were the person to sort out his fraud. >> guest: started in 2000i was a managing billions and portfolios and i noticed it was a fraud because i was asked to compete with him. my boss wanted me to develop a product and i knew that was impossible. obviously it was a fraud mathematically nothing makes sense. so i recruit