>> jim: yeah. i would think that -- you know, of course, i'm a not a pitching coach, but i certainly did pitch, he needs to go down there and rediscover his sinker. and the only way to do that is throw it. it's funny. dave trembley was saying his best pitch was the changeiam. he hardly threw any last night. his slider has been evaporated. he needs to find his arm slot. the best thing to do is go down there and fight it. >> gary: one-ball, two-strike count. lopez. two down, nobody on. play has to be made at 1st base. wieters throws it down there. the strike out is the second for hernandez and a 1-2-3 innings. he has retired seven in a row.

>> gary: orioles baseball on masn is brought to you by obama administration tand t. rethink possible. jim palmer and gary thorne. a 2-1 ballgame. mariners lead it. the runs coming in the 1st inning. nolan reimold, a double rbi first time up. red sox came back against texas tonight. they were down by two going into the seventh. they won it 7-6. down the line and fouled. the game winning rbi for boston darnell mcdonald. >> jim: oh, the former number

one draft choice of the orioles. >> gary: as they are trying to get some help with their offense and darnell mcdonald came up. >> jim: i would imagine mike cameron had abdominal pains yesterday. he never really lot of center field at fenway. >> gary: no. never. red sox get a win. toronto beat kansas city in the division. chicago beat tampa bay. tampa bay on the road putting up big numbers. yankees are in oakland. they have an early 3-0 need. vargas has walked one and struck out two. reimold, scott, and wieters for the orioles. one and to. reimold on a ball down and away becomes strike outvictim number three. >> jim: there is that change-

up. again, learn a little bit of a lesson. that was a fastball in the mid of the plate. he turns it over 80 miles per hour and nolan goes fishing. something easy to do here in seattle with puget sound and lake washington. >> gary: salmon, good fishing, great views. >> jim: we are about three weeks early for the river salmon. if you are ever up here, it's unbelievable. that's when you want to schedule the orioles in town. >> gary: luke scott, 1-0. scott popped out his first time up and asked for a time up. luke hit .260 off of the leftys last year. three points better than he did against right-handers last season. that pitch, nobody would get that one because it was down and away and a 1 ball, 1 strike out. vargas has struck out three of the last four oriole hitters.

an the delivery bounces away. we welcome those of you joining us, having watched the washington. colorado with a 10-4 victory. we are at safeco field in seattle. both ball clubs getting runs in the first. mariners have 2-1 lead. luke scott, 2-1 delivery, pops that one up to left. byrnes, who came in for bradley. wigginton picked up the double. that would go all the way to the wall, getting the rbi and the orioles getting the early lead. the mariners would come back against hernandez on bradley's line drive. that was good for a go-ahead run after gutierrez had a sac fly. bradley came out of the ballgame. we are not sure why. but after that 1st inning he was replaced by byrnes.

two down here. nobody on. wieters had a double and has a four game hit streak for the orioles. one pitch down and away. and a 1 ball, 1 strike count. >> jim: come on you right- handers, because as we mentioned, leftys now on the year, 2-19 off of jason vargas. >> gary: another slow roller. lopez charging. finds the handle and throws it wild. he just didn't find all of it. >> jim: there's your inexperience. don wakamatsu, the manager, was talking about jose who played 2nd base. sometimes the arm angle may be a little low. again, he had plenty of time. a lot of crow hops. doesn't get the arm up. the ball bounces 6789 kotchman, who is a very, very efficient 1st baseman, he has gone 200 games without an air, unable to come up with it. >> gary: let's see if the orioles should take yang now.

the inning shook over. atkins who flied out to center field with two down takes the pitch outside for a ball. interesting talking with the manager today before the ballgame, wakamatsu talking about the fact that he waited in spring training to talk about figgins going from second to third and wigginton going from second to third and the reasons why. wakamatsu said, look, we have been trying to move lopez to 2nd base for the last two years. i told him, if you want to stick around and play some ball, you probably got to go to third. he said i get the mess on. two zero delivery. a baserunner left on. pitchers controlling for the moment. 2-1

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them. the proceeds go to the oriole charitable foundation and the jackie robinson foundation. the bidding closes at noon. two down. here's kotchman. hernandez with a couple of walks and two strikeouts. david hernandez giving up the two runs on two hits in the 1st inning. since, though, he has really had it pretty much under control. >> jim: we talked in the opening, the key to him, he has a good arm, he can throw 90 to 94 with ease, but can you get your breaking ball over. that is what he has been doing the last couple of innings. so less predictable than he was in the 1st inning. but if you go back to the 1st inning, the sacrifice fly and then did not make a good pitch, and it happens, to milton bradley, an 0-2 pitch sliced it into left for a second run. >> gary: that is going to be in

there, and the count will go to 3-1. for david hernandez it is his 23rd game. 22nd start in his career. and that's going to be fouled away. he has pitched here in this ballpark before at safeco. his record against seattle is 0- 1. two starts against the mariners last year. both here. 3-2 delivery. and that one to 2nd base lugo. the other way will backhand it. and another solid inning for hernandez. he set the side down in order. three innings in a row and has retired ten in a row. 2-1 m's.

>> gary: join us again tomorrow for the series finally. millwood against hernandez. begins at 9:30. followed by game coverage at 10:00 on masn 2 hd. all the action you need right here on masn. and there are the starters. >> jim: kevin millwood down in texas knows him. they know each other. felix hernandez second in the cy young last year. >> gary: decent year, wouldn't you say? >> gary: here is lugo batting

eighth. lugo on a big count of the breaking ball from vargas who has walked one and truck out three. vargas has an 0-1 record against the orioles for the 27- year-old. orioles would like to make that 0-2. it's his fourth career start against the o's. >> jim: that should be part of julio's game plan. a lot of times we have seen him in the past push the ball. lugo will make his way back with a one-ball, two-strike count. these two pitchers have really settled into this ballgame. the teams were hitting .289

against vargas. 1-2 delivery. figgins. and there is one away here in the 5th inning. the o's return to camden yards next week. new york yankees will be coming to town. good seats remain for this great rivalry. we hope ul help to paint the park orange. tickets start as low as $8. go to orioles.com. the fans are indicating it's slightly cool. it was 53 degrees at game time. it looks like a football crowd here tonight. and the roof is closed. but bare in mind, it's open. it's a canopy roof. >> jim: that's part of the charm here. you are covered from the rain, but you do get the coldness and the dampness from outside. >> gary: you might say you are

covered from the waist down for the entire ballgame. a two ball 1 strike count. foul back, and it's a 2 ball, 2 strike count. >> jim: i don't do a lot of caffeine. but when you are a east coast guy doing west coast games, you got to go to the catch even. i noticed last night you didn't lack any of it. >> gary: it doesn't matter where i am, you know how much coffee i drink. >> jim: actually nisn't a hot dog. it's a hand warmer. >> gary: it will serve for that purpose. >> gary: and fouled again back over the screen. and the count remains 2 balls and 2 strikes. >> jim: we mentioned jamie moyer, the all time victory

leader that won the year at 21. vargas is the same type of guy. >> wicho: lopez up with it. gets it over there. and another out on the ground. and there are two away here in the 5th inning. >> jim: you throw enough changeups at 80 miles an hour with great late depth and action, it's going to make that 86-mile an hour fastball look a little farmer. >> wicho: that will bring up adam jones. two down. nobody on. 2-1 mariners lead. >> jim: you get an idea of how offensively this team is struggling because they are 14th in runs because he is pitching up in the strike zone. not a guy that you would think, even though it's come down a little bit over the last couple innings, that would be very effective there. >> gary: orioles have been on top of the ball even though he is throwing up in the strike zone. these groundballs. that's going to miss away.

1-1. he has grounded out. struck out so far. jones looking for his first it in this set. fenway is still there. who did they play? the yankees. it went 11 innings. it was just an indication of things to come back in 1912. that one in the air towards center field. he has it, and a 1-2-3 inning. a very sad day in major league baseball, and the commissioner issued a statement today on the death of kelley mcgreger. as president of the colorado rockies, he was one of the games' rising young stars. he was a great athlete and equally great as a baseball administrator. he was also a great human being. all of baseball will miss him. i offer my condolences and deepest sympathies to his family, friends, and rockies ball club.

that from commissioner bud selig.

>> gary: good ballgame here at the safeco field. two ball clubs with pitchers who gave up runs in the 1st inning and then have settled in. david hernandez looking for his first win against two losses on the year. two walks, two strikeouts so far for the orioles 23-year-old right hander. >> jim: has really settled down. a lot of people thought david would be better suited as, you know, maybe a closer or a late inning guy. but all of a sudden when you give him the breaking ball and he worked hard on it at spring training, he is a good starter. the two-seamer which allows him to pitch down in the strike zone more. he had a tendency that he wants to go visit the 1st base dugout. he falls off a lot. when his lines are straighter at home plate the ball comes

down. he can finish his pitches. more velocity. >> gary: adam moore pops that one up. lugo has the best able. 2nd baseman gets over and puts it away. moore is retired. he is 0-2 in the ballgame. hernandez, he comes in with four wins, 12 losses in his young career. 2-# on the road. 2-7 on the road. e.r.a. of 5.68 in road games. he will try and make that a little better here if he can get it going tonight. he gets one down in the fifth and that brings up the number nine hitter jack wilson. he was out his first time up. >> jim: he hit one right by ty wigginton. the breaking ball that stayed up on bergesen. he said, yeah, i usually bunt once a game. of course, the ball, they take that away from him. of course, last nighter doubled to left, doubled to right,

singed. as you mentioned, three hits. >> gary: season high. said a big difference between the national and american league, a lot more breaking balls in this league. and there is one there. and the count goes to 1-0. milt be bradley who came out of the lineup has a left calf tightening. so that will be a day to day situation for bradley. and byrnes out playing in left field. inside. herb -- hernandez backs him off. >> jim: that's that two seam fastball. it runs in. if you make it dance a little bit. they are coming back on the inside part of the plate. >> gary: that to 2nd base. a big hop to lugo. over to atkins for the out. there are two away. a busy night for infielders for both of these ball clubs with the number of groundballs and ball clubs. ichiro coming up. two away. this is the way the orioles pitchers like it. get ichiro to the plate with

two down and nobody on. if you have to face him. he is the lead off spot. he has singled and scored and been called out on strikes. rbis picked up by bradley and gutierrez for the mariners in the 1st inning and a double by reimold in the first. the only runs of the game. and that slash is fouled. strike one. >> jim: i would imagine when we didn't see him run early on, his first year in the american league, 242 hits, but led the league with 56 fields. last year second least at age 35, with 26. >> gary: hernandez coming right at him and he fouls that pitch back and a two strike count. he pulled even with jay buhner in the mariners record book with games played in doubles in the ballgame played last night. so he continues to get to the point now of establishing some seattle records. there's an ichiro hit. just punched it into center field, and he's two for three.

>> jim: again, he had 59 infield hits last year. that's obviously not an infield hit. let's take a look right here. dave hernandez totally different pitch. strike one. good fastball in on the fist. there you go. you think it's a good pitch. maybe a little too much of the plate. especially to eachio. speak of jay brunner, he is here. >> gary: he is doing some radio work. >> jim: i told him is that counter programming to "american idol" on tuesday nights you appear? he said that is exactly right. >> gary: there you go. somebody always trying to find an answer to quality programming, which that isn't. chone figgins.

>> jim: how would you know if you never watched it? >> gary: quick assessment. two down. >> jim: that darryl, young wife, beautiful wife. she watches it, i watch it. so the point is, they don't really sing very well. >> gary: they don't? >> jim: no. and it's not really about -- in some cases it's about entertainment. it's a popularity contest. >> gary: 1-0. throw over. hernandez a good throw. >> jim: but it does get amazing ratings. so figure it out. i don't want you to have to figure it out tonight. just think about it. >> gary: there are a number of things that get amazing ratings that you don't want to talk about. >> jim: that's right. >> gary: 1-0. there goes ichiro. here comes wieters' throw and not in time. ichiro gets a stolen base. >> jim: you can almost predict it because he has the ability. everybody marvels the fact that

he is 36, he plays left field like the best of any of them. but you just know that that's what you are trying to do after that one-run lead. >> gary: 4 out of six stealing bases for ichiro. first strike against figgins. 2-1. figgins trying to get out of an 0-12 as he has had a walk and a groundball out. importantly here, with two down, a runner in scoring position. both these clubs have struggled, trying to get these two out rbis this year. .236 a team average for the seattle mariners in that department. figgins on the count 3-1. gutierrez waiting on deck. >> jim: and if you can't catch it, knock it down if you are an infielder. try to keep it from going into the outfield. >> gary: wieters 5-11 catching base steelers now. here is the three one delivery on the way.

it's a strike. it goes a full 3-2. chone figgins, one of his best games was out in anaheim where he was able to i think run through six and 2/3 innings last year. that was one of those nights he had a good fastball and a good breaking ball to go to it. >> gary: approximate-2. two down. ichiro off second. inside out to left field. good job by hernandez. no runs. one hit. no errors, and a baserunner left on. we have completed five. it remains 2-1 seattle. let the celebration begin. verizon is the nfl's #1 pick. get nfl mobile and watch live nfl draft coverage. plus view real time draft tracker. download it now to get it free through 2010. only on verizon.

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>> gary: our geico highlights. all the action in the 1st inning. david hernandez pitching pretty well now with a breaking ball. vargas, the change-up specialist, there we are thomas kincadeer right there. hernandez gives up two runs in the first. vargas one run in the first. through the first five innocence, kind of a pitching dual here. and the orioles will have wigginton batting two, leading it off here. down to third. that's going to be a base hit. fair ball by lopez racing over byrnes. it will be an easy double, though, going in. for the lead off double is wigginton. he is on for the second time. he scored the orioles run after walking in the 1st inning. >> jim: got him out with a change-up the last time. right here is another one. again, you touched on it, a lot

of pitches up in the zone. this three-game is a hanging change-up and ty able to double into the left field corner to get at least a potential tying run to second with nobody out. >> gary: so the orioles get in this case markakis up. markakis has popped out and struck out 1-6 in the series so far. and that is the strike on the outside corner. each team now has three hits in the ballgame. the orioles had a runner in scoring position 1st inning. could not get the hit. they had three chances in the second inning after a wieters lead off double and could not get the hit. now they get a shot again here in the 6th inning. 0-1 delivery. nice block made by moore. and a one-ball, one-strike count. >> jim: go back to the second inning, gary, the lead off double by wieters and garrett atkins couldn't get him to third. you don't want to really over if you are a hitter.

but in this case you would love to be a roll over and make sure you hit a ball to the right side because i would imagine don wakamatsu, he is going to bring the infield in. >> gary: you have to move him up to 3rd base here at a minimum from this at bat. big hole at short there as they move the shortstop over behind the runner wigginton. see both of them in the bottom of your screen. >> jim: it doesn't mean that you have to give yourself up. but you want to look for a pitch that you can hit for the right time. >> gary: markakis, .312 lifetime against seattle with a couple home runs against mariner pitcher. 1-1 delivery. that's outside. vargas has looked back a couple times after delivery as though he is catching his back foot on something on the mound. both times he has done that he has missed that strike zone by a lot. two ball 1 strike count.

wigginton checking behind him off 2nd base. 2-1 delivery. markakis takes it. down low again. 3-1. >> jim: and remember how good he has been against leftys. 2-19 on the season. he already has scott out twice, and the same with nick. but this is your hitter's count. >> gary: reimold, clean up batter, right-handed, on deck. 3-1 delivery. markakis not going to get him moved up. gutierrez shallow center. and there's the first out of the income. one down here in the sixth. and the orioles not having luck with those important at bats, even if you don't get a hit. that will leave it up to reimold here with one away. nolan reimold doubled. got the rbi in the 1st inning and drove wigginton home. he gets another shot with wigginton out there at 2nd base. he struck out his last time up.

wigginton big secondary lead. and a strike taken on the inside corner. >> reimold against then left- handers. he has had five hits in 15 at- bats on the year. here is the 0-1 delivery. good offspeed pitch. again away. >> jim: that's that great change-up. and again when you have already doubled on a fastball because you got behind him, he was able to score wigginton all the way from 1st base, i don't think -- you may see a fastball, but it's not going to be in the middle of the plate. special when the count is 0-2, unless he makes a horrible mistake. that's the luxury of pitching ahead in the count. >> wicho: ahead here 0-2. the delivery. and that's outside and high.

one-ball, two-strike count on reimold. reimold with three hits and eight at-bats, including a home run off vargas. and the difficultly it seems is that his best pitches are a change-up with 2 strikes, you still have to hit off the fastball. if you have a change-up and you throw a fastball, just won't catch up. >> wicho: 1-2 delivery on the way. that's going to be in the air. easy play to wilson. >> jim: that was a good fastball. right in on the fist. so maybe in the back of his mind after the 1 strike change- up, he is just thinking i got to wait, i got to wait. and then jason vargas just gets in in enough right on the trademark. unable to get it over will son's head into left. >> gary: the orioles for a potential of the repeat of that second inning when they had a lead off double and could not only convert it into a run, but let the runner at second. >> jim: every team talks about a situational hitting. you know, the inability to

execute that. at least on a couple of occasions tonight. >> gary: luke scott will take it inside for a ball. luke is 0-2. he has popped out and flied out to left field. scott tried to get this ballgame tied up. wigginton will take off on contact here. luke scott has not had a run with a hitter in scoring position yet this year. 0-1 tonight. 0-10 on the season. 1-0 delivery. he may not get one here. see if it goes behind the screen. it does. his at bat will stay alive. 1-1. >> jim: he did such a nice job of adjusting. after only hitting .215 as an oriole against left-handers. >> gary: 15,931 tonight. last night they had the smallest crowd ever at this

ballpark. 14,500 plus. it is the fourth smallest crowd at a ballpark already recorded this year. toronto, washington, seattle, and baltimore. here is the 1-1 delivery. scott will take it. it is outside. and a 2 ball, 1 strike count. vargas trying to keep the runner wigginton out there at 2nd base with just a one-run lead to work with here. the orioles, half their wall games have been decided this year by one or two runs. seven of the 14. the o's of course have only one 2. 2-12. >> jim: they are 1-6 in one and two run ball games. not where you want to be. >> gary: train going by outside. vargas steps off. >> jim: you talked about it last night. the mariners 35 and 20 one run gamesful. you talked about the fact that very rarely can you duplicate that the next year.

they are already 0-2 this year. >> gary: 2-1 delivery, and i fouls it off. >> gary: vice versa, generally it picks up, for reasons that are yet to be advanced. >> jim: you would like to think that you play better defensively and maybe you get a good situational hitting and your bullpen is a little better. >> it probably has something to do with that. it certainly did for the rays. they had a marvelous year. >> gary: 2-2 delivery. luke scott. a strike out vague tim and he is tagged out. vargas has four k's. wigginton is left stranded. pitching dual continues. [ audience groans ] since this competition has been continuing for 48 hours and we have yet to eliminate anyone, it is the decision of this board to declare all 20 contestants winners.

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>> amber: the first thing was to not get behind in the count. of the 20 batters he has faced tonight, 15 have been first

pitch strikes. that's when he gets in trouble. so he has really improved on that. that's all the orioles are asking from him here. >> gary: david hernandez learning, amber. a two to one deficit right now. but he has been very effective. 1st inning he faced seven batters, gave up two runs, two hits, two walks. since the 1st inning no runs, one hit, no walks, and a strikeout. and ichiro has two of the three hits on the board for the mariners. a strike taken. gutierrez, lopez, and griffey. gutierrez a sac fly in the 1st inning and flied out again to center field the second time up. >> jim: 87 pitches and he goes back to that 1st inning, close to 30 in the 1st inning. so the pitch count decelerated. >> gary: that one towards the hole. gutierrez has a base hit. nothing new there. he went 2-2 last night against the orioles lifetime now.

he has 25 hits in 49 at-bats. he is hitting about .511 with two home runs and ten rbis. >> jim: what we are finding and that's the breaking ball that amber was talking about he has been able to get over. behind the hitter. didn't want to throw him a fastball. threw him a get knee over curve ball and that will not do it against franklin fought rose the way he is hitting the ball this year. >> gary: the pitch is outside to lopez. >> jim: the bullpen, i would imagine, because you are still very much into this game, you would think dave trembley, a lot of the guys getting loose because they look at the pitch count. the last couple of games for david hernandez pitch count at 98 and 99. >> gary: lopez at the plate. reached and scored, getting on in the fielder's choice in the 1st inning and has struck out four hits now for the mariners. and they have all been singles. a very tough 1st inning. hernandez with a wild pitch

that moved runners to second and third. cost him in the inning. a chance for two right here. a double play off the bat of lopez. and there are two down here in the 6th inning. >> jim: back-to-back nice double plays off the bat of jose lopez. last year he was one of their home run guys at 26 home runners. right there perfectly turned. >> gary: third double play that he has hit into. and lopez assists the hernandez cause in a big way. ken griffey junior, he has walked and grounded out. two down, nobody on. and the breaking ball will be taken down low. >> jim: the amazing thing, he is 40 and this is his 21st year in baseball. 31.5 at -- >> gary: that's a foul ball i. >> jim: 31.5-ounce bat. i said, you know, frank

robinson used a 35. he said, he is the godfather of my youngest son. >> gary: so there. >> rick: and frank uses a 35. that's three and a half ounces lighter. it's about that speed. >> gary: and i got that one. right field. back and off the base of the wall. a long single for griffey. a line drive. markakis thought he might have a play. >> jim: boy, that classic swing. and again, just hits it too firm for nick to get back, but plays it well. >> gary: griffey is on at 1st base. hit number five off hernandez. and byrnes coming up. he is second at bat. came on for bradley after bradley singled, got an rbi in the 1st inning. then bradley came out of the ballgame with a muscle pull.

now byrnes with two down. for byrnes on the season, ninth game that he has appeared in, one extra-base hit, a double. he came in hitting at .143 on the year. hernandez, breaking ball will miss up high. ball one. big double play, obviously, in this inning. mark hendrickson will be the first in the bullpen to start throwing. short lead at first. 1-0 delivery. that's going to be a broken bat. pop-up to short. handled by izturis. that's t 2-1 mariners. anncr vo geico glovebox app...

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pretty good team if they want to play. cliff lee is supposed to be back to pitch for the seattle team by may 2, they hope. the league is still ruling on a five-game suspension he got at spring training, throwing at a batter. >> jim: i think they waived that. >> gary: good for him. >> jim: but they don't want to rush him back because he had an abdominal injury when he was with the indians and it bothered him all year long. they hope he pitched last year when he was 22 and 23 and won the cy young award. you talk about that may 2nd. he said that could happen. >> wicho: we card is still out and not expected back at the earliest the end of may.

>> jim: i think when you are a finesse pitcher like jason vargas, even though matt hit a breaking ball for a double, when you get ahead you can go out of the strike zone. that's the luxury of pitching ahead in a zone. even a breaking ball like matt wieters, a breaking ball hitter, it goes right over. >> gary: atkins with one down and nobody on, atkins has flied out twice. orioles have stranded four. three in scoring position in the ballgame. that one to 2nd base. figgins is up with it. and he gets the out. a couple of quick outs here in the seventh. the orioles host the red sox for the first time 2010. beginning friday april 30. good seats remain for each game. they will not last long. come out to bird land. for tickets call the orioles go to orioles.com. saw a note today, the red sox

it's the third time in the last 25 years the red sox have been six or more games out this early in the season. they did win today. >> gary: luke owe takes it for a strike. >> jim: one of the great lines was out of the tampa bay tribune where he said there are no such things as mulligan in april in the east. >> gary: exactly. especially the way tampa bay is playing. >> jim: that was his point. they are getting back to at least playing hard and playing like they did in 2008. >> gary: came tach to beat texas after being down in the seventh. >> jim: tampa bay, they started out 7-0 on the road. they go to chicago. they get burley tomorrow and then they get jake peavy. so you know know in this game. and that's what makes it so special. >> gary: lugo 0-2. vargas up

high with a fastball, and it will even the count up at 2 balls and 2 strikes on lugo, getting the start at 2nd base. fifth time for the orioles to have him in that position. 2-2 pitch. misses outside. three-ball, two-strike count. >> jim: for jason vargas, that was the 99th pitch. that's why the bullpen is up. >> gary: here is the 3-2 delivery, and through owe is able to -- lugo is able to fight that one all. three walks total. one by vargas. two by hernandez. the only one that scored was the one surrendered by vargas in the 1st inning to wigginton to the orioles so far only run. 2, 5, and 1 for the mariners. the offense still struggling to

get going. a 3-2 delivery and a walk with two down. so there is the second walk surrender. >> jim: 100th pitch. >> gary: and izturis is am coulding up. he has had an 0-2, grounding out twice to 3rd base. izturis against vargas now. one hit. 11 at-bats lifetime against this seattle starter. guarding the line at third lopez. fouled away. interesting. you see the orioles. they do not have a stolen base in ten games over 100 winnings without a stolen base. brian roberts what had the last one on april 9. 0-1 count. reached for that one. fouls to back, and it's 0-2 on

izturis. vargas probably working into a final batter here in the seventh inning. david hernandez hoping for a little offensive help. a quick turn over to 1st base with kotchman having to move back on to the bag. he was playing off the bag. as you can see there, he was trying to cut that hole down between first and second, because izturis will shoot a ball into right field once in a while. again 0-2. and izturis off the fist that time. >> jim: yeah, so many changeups and so many well located change- ups that 87, even in the middle of the plate, he has been able to get by some of the oriole hitters tonight. >> gary: vargas having to work hard here to try to find this

final out in the top of the seventh. 0-2 again, and that one toward 2nd base this time. figgins goes to wilson. it is a 2-1 mariners lead. seven inning stretch brought to you by jack daniels tennessee whiskey. please drink responsibly.

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the orioles. we go to the bottom of the seventh and the bottom three in the order for the mariners. kotchman, moore, and wilson. kotchman 0-2 in the game. he has a five hit streak still. .324 against right-handed pitchers. three home runs. 12 rbis off the rightys. tonight not so against hernandez. 1-0 delivery. fas ball at the knees. 1-1. >> jim: remember when he broke in in 2004, he went 48 at-bats. his first 48 at-bats in the league without a strikeout. only bob baylor more with 51. >> gary: the third, yellow, wigginton. >> jim: glad you were standing there, ty. real estate. position, position, position. >> jim: casey doesn't bunt. area seeing him bunt. right now if you are ty

wigginton, you are playing deep, elevates the ball not where david wants to be. he needed to throw a strike. and sometimes you just get fortunate. >> gary: one down. here is moore, who has flied out and popped out. adam moore doing the watching in the ballgame. and a towering fly ball left field going back. looking, looking, that's going to fake a hop. center field. jones, a double. add am a gets it in. big tag by moore. one-bagger. two down. >> jim: the pitch count up over 100 now, and both of these balls belted here in the seventh. just inside middle. as we mentioned, adam moore, always a catcher, always a pretty good hitter in the minor league. it may be an indication that somebody is getting a little bit tired. either that or not using all of his pitches. he has gotten this far by really using that breaking

ball. >> gary: moore's first extra- base hit. one down. obviously, a very big potential run out there. here is wilson, 0-2. he has grounded out twice. and then you have ichiro. hernandez. breaking ball, and a good one. >> jim: you're hoping if you are dave trembley jack wilson is one of several runners in scoring position, hernandez can get him out. >> gary: 0-1 count. one down. good lead at 2nd base for moore, and a breaking ball. wieters. a little knee walking right there. and blocked it. so matt albers and will ohman in the bullpen. lefty righty getting ready. 1 one-ball, one-strike count. moore getting officed here. that secondary lead important

here on a base hit. here is the 1-1 delivery. break ball again. that one didn't and misses inside. and a two ball, 1 strike count. it's been a heck of a ballgame. well played. started out like the offense both might be able to do something in this game, and it ended in the 1st inning. all three runs scored then. pitchers' dual ensued. fastball down le low. >> jim: big outs. and then unable to get them in. >> gary: wilson has drawn only one walk this year. struck out ten times. 3-1 delivery and he lays that one. that is a fair ball. moore is going to come around to score. wilson is on his way to second. a very important rbi double and

a 3-1 mariners lead. >> jim: they are all balls hit hard in the seventh inning. your ford drive of the game is going to make it 3-1. young pitcher had to throw a strike. he looked on deck. he knew who was up there. and very difficult position. didn't make a quality pitch. and jack wilson all over it. >> gary: our ford drive of the game your local ford dealer invites you to experience ford like never before. ford, drive one. an outstanding performance by david hernandez, but not enough at least as he leaves. as seattle now has a 3-1 lead and the left-hander will ohman will come out of the bullpen. boss: so word's gettin' out that geico can help people save in even more ways -

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>> gary: this cop righted telecasts presented by authority of the orioles may not be reproduced or retransmitted in any form. an the accounts and descriptions of this game may not be disseminated without the express written consent of the orioles. david hernandez will now spec state. six and a third innings. three runs, seven hits. a couple of walks and a couple of strikeouts. he is responsible for jack wilson on at 2nd base. will ohman on to pitch. >> jim: this is obviously a match up situation. you see the five innings, four hits, a couple of walks.

leftys. against ohman this year, he is a face -- three base hits, a couple of walks. so 5 of the 11. again, with ichiro, it really doesn't matter. he actually hits left-handed pitchers better. no history between those two. >> gary: 1-0 delivery to him, and not going catch up with that one. and a one-ball, one-strike count. ohman will try to leave it right here with that runner at second. >> jim: you wish he made contact on this one. not in the same zip code. that ball is just a quality pitch that dives down and away. >> gary: ohman a special list now to get out left-handers. broke the bat on that. izturis gets it, and the runner moves up. heads up base running right there as wilson made the decision to go. ichiro is retired.

two down. >> jim: terrific play by caesar izturis. a gold glove in 2004. 59 infield hits. if you don't make the perfect play, and wilson is going to make sure, this is a shortstop watching a shortstop, he knows the urgency that seeser has. he gets into third. with two outs, it doesn't make a big difference because a breaking ball in the dirt puts more pressure on matt wieters. you want to bury your breaking ball but not bounce it. >> gary: figgins, 0-2 in the game and a walk. 0 for his last 13. ohman will stay on against the switch-hitter. and that is in there for a strike. >> jim: if you look at numbers, and i think this move is all about you let him hit against leftys because he is 8-22. 2-24 are domcomming in the game as a left-handed batter.

so he is a little different hitter. but then gutierrez is on deck. >> gary: 0-is delivery on the way. he was thinking that and wigginton was, too, as he moved in. figgins ability to lay the ball down always has to be respected because he had -- >> jim: it also has something to do where he comes from. small ball. play the game the right way. it doesn't matter if you get a base hit or a bunt or whatever. by faking a bunt earlier in the count you bring the infield in. >> gary: outside, and a 2 ball, 1 strike count. wilson getting that jump as far as he can off the 3rd base bag, talking to mike brahamly down there about doing just that. he has to be a little careful because ohman is in the stretch and wigginton is not far from the bag. 2-1. and the deliver troy figgins. no play.

foul ball. 2-2. good match up. good game. these both teams looking to live on their pitching and defense. the orioles hoped they would have some much better offense, and should as the season goes along. but both these teams are going to rely on some close ball games and winning by getting fundamental things done. here is the 2-2 delivery. good stop by wieters and a three ball, two strike count. >> jim: that's what we were talking about, jack wilson moving from second to third on the ichiro ground up. wigginton can now, there are 2 strikes, he will allow figgins to, if you want to bunt go ahead, i am playing bat. i am going to make sure i get to a groundball on the left side. >> gary: ohman with a 3-2. figgins pops him up. and it will be beyond the screen. no play.

and the count will stay at 3-2. matt wieters turning into the workhorse that was expected for the orioles. he continues to be in just about every game. and dave trembley talking before the game about not many davis are going to be coming wieters' way. he doesn't want to dh him. he prefers him to be right there behind the plate. 3-2 the count. a runner on third with two down. so one run in on a couple of hits. now david hernandez is going to hope some offense can come the orioles' way.

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again, that extra run makes it a little bit easier. >> gary: lowe will face the top of the order here in the top of the eighth. it's jones, wigginton, and markakis up against him. and the fastball is in there for a strike. >> jim: it was at 96. >> gary: lowe allowed a run on a couple of hits last outing against detroit in an inning. that was four days ago. 75 games last year. the fastball, and that is right there for a strike. and the count goes to 0-2. >> jim: a little bit different. a finesse lefty. maybe the hardest he threw was 88. change-up at 88. that's what jason vargas was so effective with. and now all of a sudden you -- you talked about it, you bring a flame thrower in in the mid 90s. >> gary: he chases this one away. two strikeouts jones has had tonight. lowe gets that one. one down. >> jim: a big kid of 6'3".

the tilt on your slider, in other words, the angle. you saw 96, 96, and then the good slider looks out of your hand the same as a fastball. and a wave by adam jones. >> gary: one down. that will bring up wigginton, who has doubled, walked, grounded out. wigginton has scored the lone run that came in the 1st inning. down the line right field, and that's going to be a foul ball as it will make it to the seats. the bullpen now trying to hang on to the sleeve for vargas. he did a great job. the orioles only got three hits off him with that run in the first income. he walked just a couple and had five strikeouts in the ballgame. the mariners pen ranks fifth in e.r.a. they do give up hits, though. they have given up the second most hits for nine innings for a bullpen in the american league. but they are able to prevent the runs from scoring. wigginton waiting on the 0-1.

and outside with it. 1-1. >> jim: and the best pitcher in the american league, the best starting pitcher last year, at least earned run average, and the third pass best out of their bullpen. >> gary: 1-1 delivery on the way to center field. it's going to stay up. to gutierrez. two down. >> jim: he hits that ball about as well as you can on the line. but right to the wrong guy. >> gary: so lowe gets the first two outs here in the eighth. that will bring up in this case markakis. markakis has popped out, struck out, and flied out. for the moment, the big plays in this game are not what happened, but what didn't happen. wieters, a lead off double in the second. never got moved. wigginton a lead off double in the sixth, never got moved. markakis on a chopper to short.

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whole family. gary thorne, jim palmer. the mariners leading to 3-1 of the years struggling with the offense as they have had two or few are runs in eight of their last 11 games. matt albers on to pitch. >> jim: matt will come in. he will last ta, 2/3 of an not guilty out in oakland. as a matter of fact, after gym johnson came in -- jim onson-in- law came in and saved a couple of gomes. albers would have been the closer last night. if he would have gotten the opportunity and hopefully closed a game. >> gary: gutierrez. outside. gutierrez extended his hitting streak to six singles in the 6th inning. got a sac fly in the first.

right now the single of bradley is the go ahead game winning rbi. he got it right in the 1st inning. right off the end of the bat. albers makes the play. gutierrez is retired. one down here in the 8th inning loam pez and griffey to follow. >> jim: matt, you know, when he sinks the ball, he is a very effective pitcher. when you go back to his last loss, he came into the game in his defense was his third straight game. he tried to get guys out with breaking balls. couldn't do it. he -- for him to be effective, he is just going to have to be a little bit better against left handers. otherwise, he is a pretty one- dimensional pitcher. >> gary: 1-0 outside.

>> jim: my theory was if -- and that was a fastball -- i was a fastball pitcher, if you are a fastball pitcher, that's what you do best. matt is a sinker ball. >> gary: lopez will foul that one way a. lopez trying to get on here. obviously, they would love to add another run or more here in the 8th inning. the orioles will have reimold up next for the save if the score stays as it is. two ball 1 strike out on lopez. and foul tipped. he scored in the 1st inning after he reached on a fielder's choice. has since struck out and hit into a double play. so the orioles, if they do not come back, will have waste add great start by david hernandez with three runs. two pitchers whose lines are so close in this game.

down to third. scooped up by wigginton. >> jim: as we mentioned, david hernandez at least failed to so are inist first two starts. tonight they got him one run. you don't need me up here to tell you when they on the get you one run. >> gary: two down. nobody on. griffey a single, grounded out, and has walked in the ballgame. griffey has got a 2-6 here in the first two games. way off the mark on that one for a strike. griffey's 2-3 against albers, and both of his hits have been home runs. 0-1 count. and here with two down, griffey swings for the downs. he hasn't had a home runner yet in season.

he does have rbi. >> jim: don't you think if he hit 630 home runs and you were 40 you would be tired. >> gary: he is tired. he is still going to hit a couple home runs. >> jim: all the mariners were talking about the fact that he should be a stand up come median. when he failed to score on the double by bradley, bradley said ten years you would have scored that gun. >> jim: line drive. base hit into right field. so griffey gets his second hit of the ballgame and keeps the inning alive here in the bottom of the 2008 with two away. aardsma is ready to go in the bullpen. their closer. byrnes will come up. he has gone 0-0-2 after coming on for milton bradley. >> jim: it actually played in his hands where he guttier offense earlier. it's held up and then you get a better defensive player in left

field in byrnes. >> gary: and byrnes swings and misses on that one. .260 lifetime player. he got in 52 games back in 2005. he came over from oakland. byrnes will take that inside. now get a shot here. best season '07 when he hit .286 with the diamondbacks. >> jim: then he had some injuries so he didn't get to play a lot. >> gary: 1 ball, 1 strike count. breaking ball is going miss outside. and the count goes to 2-1. albers with griffey on at 1st base. 2008 inning. two down. there is that train you hear going by literally right outside the ballpark, outside the outfield fences. and there is the 2-1 delivery. and that is in there for a

strike. willie nelson has a new album out, purer country. and it has tbone pickins produced it, who is one of the great country producers. i thought about it because there are a bunch of train songs on that album. the three ball, two strike count. 3-2. two down. griffey will have the 1st baseman atkins move behind him. matt albers. griffey running. 3-2. fouled off. right back here tomorrow night as kevin millwood will be making the start for the orioles against felix hernandez. the stage is set after a day off thursday in boston.

friday, saturday, sunday games guthrie against lester in game one, mad disagainst lackey in game two, david hernandez and tim wakefield both starting ball games will start on sunday. 3-2. griffey running again. a ground towards the middle as it's bobbled and everybody's on. >> jim: i imagine that's going to be an error. the one thing about eric byrnes, you don't have to worry about him running the ball. he plays it on the short hop, i think because of the speed. when he does that, it becomes a tough play. always talks about shortstop, you can pick your hop. but by picking the hop, because of the speed of byrnes, it comes up. >> gary: first error this year, and it keeps this inning alive a 3-1 ballgame. kotchman, who has had an 0-3, will stand in against albers.

and take the pitch outside for a ball. a dangerous situation right here with kotchman. >> jim: it goes back to what we talked about leftys. left-handers are now 5 for 11 over matt albers. >> gary: 1-0 delivery to him. missed and the count goes to 2- 0. got a couple of relatively easy outs against gutierrez and lopez to start the inning. ohman were 2/3 of an inning and had 1 strikeout coming in for hernandez. 2-0 delivery. kotchman takes it. it's a strike on the outside corner. 2-1. casey kotchman only a .214 lifetime average against the orioles. but he does have four home runs against those pitching, including the one he added in the ballgame last night. griffey off 2nd base.

byrnes off first. 2-1 delivery. strike taken inside copper. 2-2. kind of surprised there is not a pinch runner out at 2nd base for junior here in the 8th inning. that could be a very big run here. and obviously ken griffey junior not fleet of foot. here is the 2-2 delivery. and it goes full. 3-2. so with two down, griffey and byrnes will be running. >> jim: a big advantage. you know, you are running with two on contact and with two outs. again, if they hit it to markakis or jones, it's going to be pretty close at the plate. even with the two outs. >> gary: kotchman readjusting the gloves. here is the 3-2 delivery.

a groundball ball toward the middle. and they make the nice play. that will do it in the inning. no runs. two are left on base. 9th inning coming. it will be reimold, scott, and wieters.

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it's on. the cool night in seattle has not diminished the mariners from getting what may be enough. and david aardsma with that 5-5 out of the pen. >> jim: well, a power arm. we were talking between innings. he had 38 saves last year. 18 of them which led the major quality in other words, one run or you came in with the tying run on base, which doesn't happen very often. power guy. we talk about jack zephyr inzik, who came over as a general manager, changed the whole club. this was a major part of it, with 38 last year. and he is 43 out of his last 47 in opportunities. >> gary: so aardsma goes to work. the years need to get some base runners on here. as reimold has doubled. picked up the only rbi back in the 1st inning. he has since popped out and struck o and the fastball is up-

and-in. so aardsma looking for the save. the controls looking to put a accident -- the orioles looking to put a dent in his numbers. inside. riviera had 42 for the yankees last year. joe nathan had 41 for minnesota. and aardsma and few en ta for the angels were tied for first in saves for the american league. got the fastball in and will even the count up at 2 balls, 2 strikes. you still have time to vote. very, very close. text in your vote a, b, or area. the results on the o's extra post game show. >> jim: a tall kid. and i watched him pitch early last year. occasionally, he has trouble getting over his stuff. not the case there. so, again, can you get your arm up to throw downhill?

and you can see he gets over the front side there but occasionally pitches up on his own. he has a big slow curve ball. but as a closer, it's pretty much fastballs. >> gary: one away. aardsma, who is 28 years old, faces scott, who has had an 0-3 in the ballgame. the orioles, since that 1st inning, a couple of chances to score, couldn't get it done. and vargas giving up just the three hits. mark lowe retiring the side in order. and now aardsma held the orioles just that one 1st inning run. 1 ball, 1 strike count on scott. luke takes it in the air. center field. gutierrez. two down.

so the orioles with only one out to work with. it will be wieters coming up. he has struck out double and reached on an error in the ballgame 2 down top half of the 9th inning. he has faced aardsma only once. 0-4 against him. and aardsma gets it in there for a strike. >> jim: yeah, they got him from the red sox for fabian williamson. not exactly a household name in boston. >> gary: orioles have never had a hit off aardsma. they are 0-16 against him. two strike count on wieters.

the 0-2 looped in the air it left field. byrnes coming. cant get it. and the orioles will get the potential tying run up here in the ninth inning. wieters gets his second hit as he has a double and a single in four times up in the ballgame. >> jim: that broken bat base hit, you'll certainly take it because the mariners are looking for their 27th out. and the game doesn't end until they get it. >> gary: atkins is 1-3 off aardsma. 0-3 in this ballgame. fastball there for a strike. >> jim: cooper calling that a low, knee high strike. they play them about a step to right center field. that's of course where he used to drive the ball. there's your breaking ball. first one he has thrown. allen cockrell was his hitting instructor. he is now the mariners' hitting instructor.

he said when darren was hit at his best, it was right center, left center for power. 24, 25, 26 home runs for the rockies. >> gary: wieters on first and a chopper towards 2nd base. this game is in the books. so the orioles have lost the first two in this one. 9th inning, no runs, one hit, no errors and one left on base as the mariners come away with a 3-1 victory.

>> gary: stay tuned. we are coming right back with o's extra post game as the orioles drop it 3-is. this is a familiar story line. when is the team starting to hit? not the case tonight. one run on four mitts. so the mariners with it by a

final 3-1. we are coming back to wrap it up and recap it. let's head back to safeco field. gary and jim. >> thanks very much, there is the line. vargas wins it 2-1. he has six saves and eight wins. game two tomorrow with -- game three, rather. millwood against hernandez. our coverage on masn presented by ford. game coverage at 10:00. for all of our crew, thanks everybody. this has been a masn presentation. how it all came down. coming up right now. to's extra. >> hi, everybody. o's extra post game presented by verizon. the birds have lost back-to- back games in seattle after finally winning a game on sunday in okajima as the

mariners win it 3-1. it was one of these situations where there were very few opportunities score. and who knew that the only one they would cash in on is the 1st inning. six of the nine batters in this lineup were hitless. wieters had two of the hits. when you have that few men on base it's the same story line. in order to score, you have to get on and come through with hits. >> even though it's wanthill thing after the other. you have to learn to get guys over from 2nd base. wigginton started off with a double in the 6th inning. never moved up one base at any point of the rest of the inning. they had their opportunities to play small ball which would have at least made it a tied ballgame and given them some opportunity. those are the kinds of things we are missing in this offense right now. >> let's get a look at the game highlights. the orioles got on first in this one. top of the first, runner on.

reimold up. reimold gets into this one. it's amazing it didn't carry out. instead it hits the base of the wall. it goes as an rbi double and 1- 0 orioles. bottom of the first, it's a 1-1 game. milton bradley with a hit to right field. that bottom of the seventh jack wilson doubled to left field. adam moore who ducked ahead of him, that makes it 3-1. aardsma comes on to earn the save. so vargas gets the win. he is now 2-1. aardsma saved number six. he is 6 out of 6 in save opportunities. and david hernandez, the tough luck loss, he is now 0-3. david hernandez has gone 12 consecutive starts without a loss. they got him a run, they got him one run. they hadn't scored for david hernandez since september the 25th of last year at cleveland. that was the second to last start. it was 15 and one third

scoreless innings while he was in the game. that was all they got for him, one run. >> you have to give hernandez a little credit here because it's very tough to pitch in ball games when you get no support at all. you can't make a mistake which eventually did in the seventh inning. too much pressure for a rookie. a veteran guy can work through these kinds of things. a rookie who is looking for something to happen good and positive, he has not been able to get it since sent of last year. >> david hernandez gave his chance to win. for more on how he looked let's head back to safeco field to rejoin gary and jim. >> gary: he looked pretty good. as you saw, david hernandez pitched the ballgame well enough to be a winner, really. as you said, if you don't get the runs you can't win. >> jim: i think last year was more of a thrower and it reflected itself in the 27 home runs, the fact that he gave up

13 home runs in his last 27 innings pitched. but tonight, early on he tried to establish his breaking ball. until the seventh inning where he elevated a couple of balls, he really pitched well. and i don't mean threw the ball, but pitched. but the at end of the day that's now three runs or less in 11 of the 15 games the orioles have played. you want to get good starting pitcher. you want your starter to go later in the ballgame which they did so you can kind of sequence your game through the end of the ballgame. again, opportunities to situationally hit. and the disappointing thing to me is there was an effort to do it. there was hitter's counts both to atkins and in this case mash mark. when you are strugglings, you have to help the guys behind you. luke scott didn't, you know, want -- 1-0 in the ninth inning. didn't take a strike. little things when you are struggling, i think you want to

do it and put it on yourself. that's not the way the game things. >> gary: the little thing that you didn't know that mattered so much for david hernandez, that wild pitch, took away a potential groundball double play make with one extra run scoring in the 1st inning that otherwise. you say you probably will get over that as inning goes along. when you are not hitting those things come back to haunt you. >> the assumption is you want to use all your pitches. i think i had 573 starts in my career. the toughest inning is the 1st inning because, you know, the breaking ball is such a feel pitch. it's something you worked on in spring training. if he gets it over, he is a very effective pitcher. as it turns out, he threw it about 50 feet and 60 feet six inches. it got by wieters and a couple runs on the board. you still don't think that will beat you. >> orioles one and five on the current road trip. they will try to avoid the

sweep here in this three game set concluding tomorrow. >> gary and jim, we will head back to them shortly. they will be joined by dave trembley. the at&t player of the game as voted by the fans, but david hernandez with a strong outing tonight. tough luck loss. he goes six and a third. it's 37% nolan reimold and jason vargas who got the win tonight 30%. david hernandez is your at&t player of the game. seattle wins if by a final 3-1. four base hits for the birds. the mariners made a back-to- back wins in the series. let the celebration begin.

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the first two games in this series. it seems to me every time the orioles play the mariners, but ichiro has a few hits. >> he does because he is such a great hit are. he is a great contact hitter. the harder you throw the ball to him, the harder he hits it. it is so easy for him and a lot of great hitters in the ballgame. to look for hard stuff all the time and lay the head of the bat on it. you have to make a pitch like hernandez did like there to get this guy out. overall, it doesn't matter where you throw it. he takes that ball right off the bottom of the ground, almost bounces to home plate. he had such great hand-eye coordination that you absolutely have to make a perfect pitch on a guy like him to get him out. the orioles have to find a way to approach him because he kills us every time we see him. 20 game hitting streak against

the orioles. seven rbis. he has scored 15 runs. there is the lead off man causing havoc on the bases. four bases. a career .386 hitter against the " the amazing thing about ichiro suzuki if he wanted to hit 30 home runs eprobably could. if you have a guy like this that flat out owns you, how would you go about trying to get this guy out? >> i faced a lot of great hitters in my time, too, and you have to figure it out with experience. some of the great career hitters, all of a sudden one day, strictly by mistake, i watch the anatomy of a hitter. in order to get him out, you have to make him roll that top hand over. to power hitters, they swing the switch, but they have that little end where they roll the hand over. i did it a million times and i hit a million groundballs to shortstop. i once said to palmer who gave

up four hits to rod carry and and the harder he hit it, the better he got it. i said lob the ball up to home plate and see if you can make them use their top hand. right away he hit nine consecutive groundballs to 2nd base. the thing was he finally cut him down from one to ten. from that approach we god to wade boggs. he was another one, too. the slower are you throw it, the more power they to use their own power in the infield. and they get their base hits the opposite way. he started rolling over. we cut him down to .250. same thing with tony gwynn in the national league. i said to the pitchers, just lob it up there and we cut him down to .250 alsoments use that top hand, they are not going to hit much for average. >> i realize this guy does it against most of the opponents.

it's amazing how individual players can own individual teams. he is the best there is against the orioles. there is no doubt about that. >> our book has not changed on him. you will see his hand right there every time he gets a hit. >> we have been talking about how difficult it's been for the orioles to win because they can't score. let's get an update. as gary thorne pointed out, they are 1-5 on this west coast road trip. these numbers are just anemic. a .209 batting average for the team. they have scored only 18 runs. keep in mind eight of those runs came in on oakland. only ten runs combined in those five games, an average of three runs per game that's elevated because of the eight runs on sunday. three home runs, 14 doubles. they have walked 11 times. they are striking out 39 times. jim palmer touched on this, and i'm wondering because we heard

a lot in spring training about fundamentals, we are going to do them correctly, situational hitting, we are going to master that, we are going to get some runs, right now when the team is struggling, i am amazed at how little we are seeing that. jim pointed out at two at-bats we looked at during the game, matt wieters leads off, atkins comes up. but no attempt to hit to the other way by atkins. same thing happened to nic markakis in the 6th inning. wigginton led off with a double. i know markakis is an rbi guy. he is not exactly on fire right now. he doesn't pull the fly ball to center field. you have to get a guy to 3rd base with less than two outs. even with the team struggling, they are not even doing the fundamental things correctly to try to add on runs. >> i do agree in some respects. if the ball club was hitting, you have to have a guy like in this case markakis try to pull the ball and get a rbi. but in the situations that they are not scoring any runs, maybe

a guy like markakis once in a blue moon might look at the 3rd baseman and say, okay, with a bunt i will draw him in and move him over there. just do some little things right now thar going to help the ball club at least tie a ballgame game on the road. you come up here next time, you let nick markakis swing away. atkins or any of them. they have to start playing small ball first. i see too much of that hand rolling over trying to get that big hit and doing it all by yourself. >> even in the second inning. you don't know this at the time. if wieters is on 3rd base. seattle is going to play the infield bag. they are un. it's the second inning. there is a run. that run would have scored and the orioles lose this game three to one. any of those runs along the way are precious and add up specially when you are struggling to score runs because they are not getting

batters on base. back to safeco field. gary and jim are with dave trembley. >> a tough night for the orioles again as the offense did not produce. and the skipper joining us, skip trembley. you had a outstanding performance from your starter. >> really got a better rhythm after the 1st inning. he had a real good breaking ball. used his change-up and got us late in the game. it was an improvement for thim. we didn't do enough offensively. didn't move those guys over and in. vargas kept us off balance. really used his change-up. but, you know, we really wasted a very good pitching outing by hernandez. >> dave, you go to spring training, you want to do a better job of situational hitting. but it didn't look like there

was an intent to do that. and i know especially with nick, he is, you know, he understands the game. but do you think it's the fact that the team as a whole is struggling offensively, so maybe they get away from the game plan of situational hitting and try to put it on themselves? >> well, i know when atkins went up there he went up there with the intention of moving the guy over because that was the game plan when he was in the on-deck circle when he guy got up there. i haven't seen the pitch that i hit. and i know nick is a good enough hitter that he knows the same thing. and i think the pitch that he hit might have got away from him a little bit. when things aren't going well, it's easy to see the things that stand out that come back it get you. >> do you think -- we had one situation of a not running out at 1st base on the game tonight. we were talking about are you getting the effort that you want up and down from the players right now? because it's got to be so hard for them. >> well, i don't know which play you are referring to.

but i thought, you know, guys are doing the very best they can. obviously, you know, everybody is frustrated. nobody is happy with it. i would have to look and see what particular play we are referring to there because the guys are giving it what they got. >> all right. skip, trying to avoid the sweep tomorrow. we will be here watching you. >> joining us here and the mariners have won the first two. so the orioles will conclude the west coast part of this trip in the game tomorrow. >> thank you very much. here is the results of our masnsports.com question. today's question, which injury is hurting the orioles most. brian roberts, 86%. i voted for brian. i went on voted today. pa 5%. gonzalez 5%. har a 4 %. ryan roberts the most important hitters in the

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>> nolan reimold hit to a ton. it didn't carry out. that was the orioles only run as he drove inside. tomorrow it is the finale of the three-game series and the final game of the seven games on the west coast to begin this trip. rick and i with you 9:30. first pitch at 10:10. a day off thursday in boston after the orioles travel all night. no game on thursday. then back here for the final three of the trip friday night, saturday night, and sunday afternoon. after a day off next monday at home the yankees come to town to begin a series next tuesday.

he goes seven innings and no decision. he walked one, struck out six. guerra bez rosa, the shortstop won the game with a walk-off home run in the bottom of the ninth. get on line, masnsports.com. there is a good post tonight. he talked to hob good after the start. he has all this pressure of being last year's number one pick. he he signs. he completely skips over the aberdeen level. goes to delmar va. his last two starts have been lights out. >> he is a big strong power pitcher. his approach is perfect. he moves it around the strike zone with total command. he is another guy like brian madis that has perfect control of his offspeed pitches. we are going to see the kind of guy that will eventually come up here two three years down the road and be one of the guys

in our starting rotation. maybe our ace. >> at 19 years old he is in the south atlantic lead. a walk-off home run. >> in seattle, the mariners win it by a final of 3-1. david hernandez a tough luck loss. he pitched well enough to win. but the orioles' bats once again silent. [ man ] ladies and gentlemen,

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and has gone deep in his last couple ball games and made some good pitches. they have not supported him well with many runs. overall, millwood has so far exhibited the best as any of the starters have outside of brian madison. he is capable of giving the orioles a very good game and beating the ace of the seattle staff, which i hope that ends up happening tomorrow night because he is going to be up against the toughest pitcher seattle has. wait until you see this guy pitch because he has to all. big strong power throwing right- hander. can make the pitches. look at the movement on the fastball. he has a very good breaking ball and he keeps it down in the zone. very, very tough to hit. watch it disappear. luke scott having a tough time right there. matt wieters is up to bat now. another breaking ball down. very good command. the orioles are going to have

to put their a game together. i know it's there. hopefully it will come alive tomorrow night. >> so the reward after dropping the first two games in this series, they get to face seattle's best pitch you are. almost doesn't seem fair. >> well, this rarely happens. nobody won. we thought instances where somebody has won with a walk. he was 0-4. you had adam jones. he was 0-4. i think i won because luke jones struck out once. so it's a wash and 5-4. rick still has the lead. >> you had a longer fly ball than i did. >> that shows you just how tough things are going. six of the nine oriole batters tonight were hitless. it's very difficult to get anything going when that many of your players are not getting on base. >> i am starting to feel pretty good myself. i think a couple of days of batting practice i will be able to help. my last hit was at 42 years

old. a bunt base hit. i know i can do that. >> we will give you an idea how it is because some of the key hitters are not hitting. adam jones and in this case mash mark. these numbers are so unlike last year. one home run and two rbis. markakis still doesn't have a home run. two rbis on the year. it's amazing how these guys are both off to such slow starts and they are 15 games in. >> well, good hitters will always hit within ten points of their normal average. we have a lot to look forward to the rest of the season from those two guys. >> who would have thought roberts' absence would have meant? when you don't have that spark plug, the lineup changes. tajeda hasn't played the last couple of days. dave trembley has tried so many combinations. i know it's exhausting for him

and i feel bad for him. he has to keep trying until he finds something that works because you can't keep going with the same things that aren't producing. thanks for staying up with us tonight. rick dempsey, jim hunter and the entire crew will be back tomorrow at 9:30 with o's extra. hope you can join us as kevin millwood goes against felix hernandez. mariners win it 3-1. birds are 1-5 on the trip. see you back here tomorrow night, everybody. thanks for staying up with us.

106-77. they good on separate runs of 21-0 and 18-0 as they blow away the heat. no other team in the last ten postseasons have had a run of at least 15-0 in the same game. ray allen on the team playing without kevin garnett. >> played a little different

than k.g. in the game. d weighed chased me more. i was trying to make the pass. didn't have the shot, so just let it come to me, and i think tonight glen and perkins were big because the got the ball down low,. >> at one point it was so great with me being a spectator, watching ray knock down shots, glen get to the basket and get and-ones. i didn't know what to think. just like everything was flowing so well. >> davis doing an admirable job filling in for kevin garnett. scores 23. his regular season high was just 15. davis, also grabbing twice as many boards as his regular season effort. >> pucks. sharks down 2-1. boyle sending the puck past his own goalie. boyle said he felt terrible about it. hoping to catch a break.

how about this for redemption. boyle, first of the playoffs. sharks up 1-0 after the first. avalanche o. the power play now. second pair e period off the faceoff. paul stastny. lighting the lamp. his first goal of the playoffs. ties it up at 1. this would finally be decided in overtime. here it is. pavelski of the sharks. scoring there. an past anderson. that's it. the sharks come away with it. that's how you redeem yourself. now the series is tied at 2 games apiece, as that is now the third straight overtime game in this series. >> penguins looking to go 3-1 in their series again the senators.

crosby, pretty good and showing everyone exactly that. third goal deflected. four points in the game. then matt cooke with his first of knost season. penguins on top 3-0. a big-time second period in terms of goal-scoring. crosby top shelf. second period, penguins up 55-3. kunitz, goal me. five goals in the second period. sets a new playoff team record for goals in a single period on the road. the penguins now have a commanding 3-1 lead over the senators, and the two teams combine ford eight goals -- comd for agent goals, tying the record for goals scored in a graham. >> they're brakeup seem to be a as highly publicized as that of jon and kate gosselin. maybe there's hope for mcnabb

and terrell owens. it's reported the redskins quarterback has encouraged the washington coaching staff to consider signing t.o. who is a free agent. shanahan says the team is not actively pursuing owens. the nfl schedules are out. they will he back in filly -- philly in week four. mcnabb was traded to the redskins after 11 seasons in philadelphia. some note notable games in 2010. vikings and saints getting things started. and vikings and jets on monday night. will favre be there? who knows. the cowboys playing on thanksgiving against the super bowl champs, and play the cardinals on christmas day. >> with the ben roethlisberger suspension possibly looming, see who the contingency plan is for the steeleres. plus, more from the nba and the

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enforcement, like park florida, riverside california, spanish-language enforcement. i don't think it is fair to say the previous administration rej. i believe that is an overstatement and i believe it is in danger of politicizing your office frankly. now what about the uniform overseas citizens absentee voting rights act cases -- civil rights division now will be implementing the new provisions of the recently passed move backed which was intended to secure voting for over 25%

military overseas voters who are unable to cash the ballot in 2008. that is a certainly we should take every effort to make sure those serving abroad have an opportunity to vote and don't lose their vote because they've been deployed so first your voting section have any attorneys with military experience and are the experienced being used in the implementation of the move fact? and i understand the voting section has only four attorneys that are participating in monitoring this anbar in compliance with it and you know to buy understand a lot of attorneys redistricting in the future but do you have enough attorneys in this section to enforce these laws? >> absolutely. i'm very confident and have complemented people working on the move act to enforce that. we just got a free good verdict i think it was in virginia and

the new etcoff que we have enforced that and we will continue to do so and we -- i agree the sheep the leadership of senator schumer and others in the passage of the act. as you know there was a bipartisan bill and we will fully and aggressively enforce it and i look forward to doing so. >> the election is coming up and we don't want to have another of 25% of the military. >> i agree with you, senator. >> -- not able to vote. on the new black party case dismissal, you tell the house judiciary committee when you testified the maximum penalty was sought in that case but the question was was obtained. could you compare the remedy

with that actually obtained in the injunction? isn't it true that the complaint sought a permanent injunction against all four defendants and the ultimate was only for a few years and against just one defendant. was your analysis of that? >> i would like to start you indicated your opening statement we had erected a steel barrier and i want to point out for the record, senator, we provide over 4,000 pages of documents to the civil rights commission in response to their request. in addition might offered to come to the come to the commission and i will be coming over there and a few weeks to testify on that so with all due respect, senator, i wouldn't call that a steel barrier. >> what about making the decision in the case? involved in it and had discussions with other members of the department and political appointees above them who didn't

agree with the dismissal of the case and its fashion. are you going to allow them to testify? >> actually, the two career people who are in the front office and made the decision, people with over 60 years of experience came to the hill and briefed congress manholes at his request so they did come to the hill. as you know in connection with the service of u.s. attorney there is a longstanding department position that was applied in a republican and democrat administrations that front-line trial attorneys are not brought before committees because we want to make sure that they have the ability to make their decisions to not be looking over their shoulders wondering whether they will be called to testify. >> it may be unusual. it may be something i am not fully comfortable with the power we give to the clause on the independent agencies but civil rights commission as the right to issue subpoenas and they've

issued a subpoena to the department of justice to have employees testify about this case. to my knowledge of either not responded or have been or may be opposed it. >> we did respond, senator and in fact the two regulations in place i think since the mid 50's apply in this situation as well and as a part of our response again we fought for and submitted over 4,000 pages of documents. i will now apparently were getting those as well and in the application of the two regulations, we've directed the civil division handled all of these requests of this nature and the inform people that the front line trial attorneys are not going to be produced because they are -- >> asserting that -- you are asserting that you don't have to comply with the subpoena from

the u.s. civil rights commission on civil rights. >> we are applying a the regulations in a way -- the two regulations pertain to a supreme court case that involved when the front line of trial attorneys are some peanut to talk about case related decisions that they made. there's a certain process that must be followed and to the extent there are questions that a body whether it is this committee or a civil rights commission is seeking to ask about the developer this process there is a privilege that has been asserted by democratic and republican administrations for decades and that is the privilege is being asserted again here and that is why i have offered to come up and the of accepted that offer lacked. >> you had certain attorneys come and provide information to

the congress but not certain attorneys is my understanding involved in the handling of this case. am i right? >> the acting assistant attorney general for civil rights and deputy assistant general for civil rights came up. the front line trial attorneys did not as is the case in a republican and democratic administrations for decades. i know when i served in the foreign byrd department of justice that was the policy then and it has been pretty consistent in my experience. >> that is a good policy to the questions about the united states commission on civil rights? they are set up to ensure that civil rights is enforced and they've been given subpoena power and apparently they would like to talk to the people who actually tried the case and i

understand your testimony to be that you are the department of justice is resisting allowing those people to respond to the u.s. commission on civil rights. islamic the authority of the civil rights commission as i of this and does not exceed the authority of the united states senate so we have spent considerable time attempting to work with the commission. that is why we've provided 4,000 pages such documents and i offered to come up. i have great respect for the institution of the civil rights commission and that is one reason why i am more than willing to come up and explain why we reached the decision that we reached but as you know, senator, that is why we have political leadership in place to come up and explain those things that we are treating the civil rights commission with great respect to get we apply the same dewey principal to them that we would apply to any request we would get from -- speed it still remains a concern about how the case was handled and i don't

think they are going to be resolved unless the people of chile and often it allow them to testify or to give evidence and that is a way that it's great to be. when we dealt with a hate crime legislation i think the fbi statistics show actually a slight decline in hate crime cases have they gone up in recent months or what numbers are you facing? >> if you look at the hate crimes against latinos for instance they've caught up with for years in a row. we now have seen a significant -- we have a threat case we have indicted in new jersey. >> where do you get the numbers? >> fpi data and also the southern public law center has data targeting and tracking hate crimes and as you know we all acknowledge he'd crimes. >> we show there has been an

increased. >> i know in the context of latino -- >> i'm asking overall. i will get the precise figures -- >> hate crimes are up. you should be eckert one category could be up in these detentions, but -- spent years will do, senator, i will get to the data sources to have, the fbi, the southern law center, and high-definition lead, all of the sources that collect the data i will also give you the data on the hate crimes prosecution that we have done and what you will see in the cases that have been brought is that there has been indeed significant rise in the number of cases. when i was a deputy chief of the criminal section of 1996 we handle somewhere in the vicinity of about 50 cases a decade later there were about one dozen cases that were prosecuted

>> the federal government is doing a more aggressive job of prosecuting and identifying the cases i would hope and pray that the amount of hate crimes is down and not up. my understanding is that the fbi numbers don't show that. i assume they are the most authoritative but i could be wrong and i will look at that. thank you very much. i appreciate this. mr. chairman, i do have a very important armed services committee meeting. >> answer to the understand. >> thank you for coming and when i get the data on section 8i will also get you the information on the current section eight case we have going on and i will make sure you know about that. thank you. >> i would point out that the southern poverty law center has supplied information that shows an increase in hate crime activities. we would also point out the many local jurisdictions do not provide the fbi with

information. i try to work with the members of the judiciary committee to increase the information made available for the fbi so that we have more reliable information on hate crime activities and have met resistance from my republican colleagues on this committee to get that information to the fbi and let me also point out in conversations i had with local law enforcement officials and local laughter to secrets there's no question that there has been a alarming increase in hate crime activities in this country. some things that i think has been well not only documented but acknowledged as far as the problems being confronted by law enforcement around this country. senator franken. >> thank you. i apologize i was in a help committee hearing so i just got

here when the ranking member was -- i assume i have 16 minutes? i'm joking. [laughter] i know he had to leave. [laughter] mr. perez, your division so ugly case called jael v. emco hawken he mentioned the case in your testimony is involved a 14-year-old student from upstate new york. the student, jael, is gay. because he is gay, his classmates to start his clothes the music player, one student knocked jael down a flight of stairs and another brought a knife to school with threatened to kill him and jael and his parents complained to the school officials and the school principal told him that, quote,

boys will be boys. u.s supported jael's laws and helped broker a settlement. unfortunately the case is hardly unique. a similar case cannot in my state. the fact is discrimination and harassment are a fact of life for lesbian, gay, bisexual and trends gender students across the country yet there is no explicit protection in federal law that bars discrimination and harassment against lgbt students in public schools. what do you think of this? do we need and i explicit stand against discrimination in public schools based on sexual orientation or gender identity? >> thank you for the question, senator. i was in seattle about three weeks ago i went to a middle school as part of an antibullying campaign and i told

the students the following. today's belize our tomorrows civil rights defendants all too frequently and i know that because it prosecuted high school students for a horrific acts of hate crimes and so i am a firm and the lever that we need to start earlier on and i am very -- in the prevention efforts and i'm very proud of the work we did in the mohawk county case because until we intervened in that case the case was languishing and the pro-government -- federal government can make a difference. when my kids go to school i have every right to know and believe they are great to be safe in school and we use title mind as a fury of gender nonconformity and we were able to bring the case under title nine. it's not the first time that we have brought a case involving selwa circumstances using a title my theory. we did another one when i was in my first tour of duty in the clinton administration working

with the education section and we will continue to monitor those and i would be happy to work with you on the underlying issue of ensuring that everybody going to school can have the reality of a learning environment that is nurturing, nondiscriminatory -- >> don't we have explicit laws against bullying people on race? >> defending the debate could another fact of the circumstances there may be local state laws or potentially federal civil rights law and again we've had cases before involving racially motivated violence committed by school-age kids. oftentimes it's been are some of schools and churches pretty

significant. >> i'm talking about bullying. right now title mine covers sex discrimination but while some have interpreted that to include discrimination on the basis of sex stereotypes not one circuit has found that to include discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. >> that is correct. our theory was of gender nonconformity which is a form of sex discrimination. it wasn't of that based on the fact that somebody is gay. islamic i would like to work with you on this and -- >> i would be happy to. >> and explicit protections for folks on the lesbian gay and bisexual and transgendered for

kids. it is a very real thing that there is this bullying in school let's turn to a couple of other matters. as you know the u.s. commission on civil rights has founded by president eisenhower to promote civil rights. that may sound self-evident but let me list some of the recent actions by the commission and commission members. they include one testifying against the reauthorization of the voting rights act to opposing by majority the matthew shepard hate crimes act and three issuing a report questioning the academic and social benefits of school diversity. that's the u.s. commission on civil rights statement. i know as the authority and

jurisdiction but dustin nation's chief law enforcement officer for civil rights can you tell me what is happening here? and i would also love for you to talk about the voting rights act as realized in the [crying] are those pieces of legislation central to your mission? >> absolutely central to our mission. and we have in the voting context feverishly preparing for redistricting. senator sessions mentioned some voting cases but i look forward to giving him the full panoply of the voting cases that we are working on including a section eight case, section ii case and you could ohio a victory recently in a new york state

case and another case in shannon county sought dakota which is indian country making sure people with limited english percussions and in the in country can access the velte. so am proud of the work we've done and i look forward to ensuring that senator sessions has a full list of the cases that were actually working on an the obama administration. i also have great respect for the civil rights commission. i had the privilege during the transition center of overseeing the obama transition not all of the agency's that have a robust agencies such as the department of justice, hhs, hud, smaller agencies, eeoc and civil rights commission. i actually got a history lesson on the civil rights commission and the creation. civil rights has always been bipartisan in the country. i learned that from senator kennedy and you look at all the major pieces of civil rights legislation and they've been a function of bipartisan work.

i look forward to the 25th anniversary of the bill signed by george herbert walker bush this summer. and there was -- i have profound respect for the tradition and the history of the civil rights commission and that's why when they asked me to come over recently about the -- to talk about the work in the new black panther case of course i will come over and i will be over there in a few weeks to discuss options and i hope we can reach a point where we can return to our bipartisan routes because really civil rights is about bipartisan coalition building. that's what i've learned from the movement and as i study the history of the movement that is what it is and that is what i hope it will return to three >> thank you. thank you, mr. chairman. >> i would remind the senator he went 16 seconds over his

allotted time. >> i guess i'm not the ranking member. [laughter] >> that was my fault, senator. [laughter] >> well, let me first say to mr. perez that you are being very diplomatic on the civil rights. and i understand your position as the testifying before us. i think senator franken is correct in a manner he's presented that. i a understand the tradition of the civil rights commission. but it's an important institution and one that should be in the forefront of advocacy for the civil rights of all americans and looking at its recent actions, it calls into question whether it is carrying out its intended responsibility. now that is our responsibility as congress to oversight that commission and is an issue of great concern to me and i know of this committee and by thank senter franken for the manner in

which he presented his questions and i just underscore the point that an of a new black panther party case it was the career attorneys that made those judgments as it should have been , and i applaud you for again trying to keep us out of the political arena and i wish you well in your appearance before the commission. >> thank you. we will be watching that carefully. >> i want to go back to senator sessions plans on the enforcement section viii. but make an observation a fight. i agree with senator such a spirit anyone taken off the wall, someone whose life should be off the wall, someone has moved the should be taken off. it should be accurate. i agree but i can tell you after every election on get more complaints about people who are eligible to vote and who work inappropriately taken off of the role and showed up and had to

follow the provisional dollars or they didn't have to handle the provisional balad or whatever and where they were harassed to such a point they just left because the time problems they have been voting and i do check with our local law enforcement to see how many -- after every election there's always accusations people fraudulently voted and then we take a look at it and we don't find it and there have been a lot of studies done and a number of people who are fraudulently voting are miniscule compared to those who are eligible to vote or try to vote who either can't vote for their votes don't get counted properly. now i am for senator sessions point. i want the laws and forced to read don't get me wrong. but i would hope we would try to be in power and people to vote who are eligible to vote and spending our resources to do that and not try to spend a lot of effort with a problem that really does not exist or

excesses in such a minor way of that we should be very surgical how we go about and i just think there are many who share my view on that and i didn't want senator sessions comments to go on without being responded to. >> senator, when u.s. me a fair lending question i said that consumer protection and preserving the sound lending climate go hand in hand. there's a tendency to create this unhealthy by an eerie world where you either do one or the other when you should be doing both. similarly, we can combat of voter fraud and we can ensure full access to the ballot. those are not mutually exclusive propositions and that is exactly what we are doing. there is a right way and a long way to enforce section 8 of motor voter is and we are preparing guidance of the states to the right way. similarly preparing guidance of the states enforce section 7 because frankly we have received

numerous reports about motor vehicle agencies, social agencies that are not doing their job of providing those materials and so we need to be vigilant across-the-board. >> thank you. i certainly support that. i want to ask one additional question, senator franken has a second round of we have time. i want to deal with the olmsted case dealing with people with disabilities. it was an expansion by the supreme court of the interpretation of title to in the act and it appears that we are making i think some significant progress on behalf of people with disabilities. georgia department of human resources did not segregate to women with disabilities in the state psychiatric hospital long after the agencies treatment professionals had recommended the transfer to come in to care. can you share with us what the priority in your department is in regards to the expansion of the rights of people with

disabilities? >> we have an active docket of cases and this is a situation that occurs in almost every state in the united states and the old paradigm of looking at people who are in the institutions was is the institution save? are the conditions constitutional? that is an important question to the second question that should be asked. the first that should be asked is are there people in this institution who shouldn't be there who can and want to live in the command his with the appropriate support so in every case we are now doing we are asking the two questions and get some push back from time to time from states saying it's too expensive. well with all due respect it's too expensive to warehouse people and institutions the average cost oftentimes was over $200,000 per person when you could live humanely and far more

expensively so we have a case in new york where we intervened a major case where we got a very good ruling from the court. we have the georgia case itself where i personally went down and sat with the governor. i did that because ten years after the olmsted case there was scant evidence of progress and so we had to file another lawsuit in order to move forward. the good news is we've been negotiating in good faith with the state and we are also doing similar negotiations elsewhere and i am confident that we can build a new paradigm so that people with disabilities to want to live in the study can do so because just as the segregation of people buy a race in the school is unconstitutional and a moral, the segregation of people, the on mrs. resegregation of people with disabilities institutions is equally illegal and must be

stemmed. >> thank you. senter franken. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. perez, part of your job is enforcing the freedom of access to clinic entrances act which prohibits -- unsury, protect americans' access to reproductive service providers. i know the attorney general holder asked the u.s. marshals service to help safeguard reproductive providers and facilities around the country after dr. george tiller is murder last year. hauer you working with u.s. marshals service to ensure ongoing protection for these providers and are you and attorney general elders still recommending increased protection or do you believe that the need was temporary? >> i don't believe -- will

conduct regular threat assessments. we have an active docket. the last thing i worked on before i left the clinton administration was the murder of the doctor and buffalo new york 3 miles from where i grew up. the first thing i was briefed on won by a ride back 11 years later for civil rights is a briefing on the murder in kansas. the more things change the more they stay the same and this threat is an ongoing threat and we take this seriously. we are constantly assessing and reassessing working not only with our partners at the marshall service but other wall enforcement. we are actively monitoring the kansas prosecution and i can't comment in detail but that investigation remains on going. we will continue to fully exercise our civil authority as well. we had a case last year in mexico involving an are some of the clinic that can to a successful prosecution.

these cases are among the highest priorities. >> thank you. i know that the department of justice has helped enforce the lpr of the vote act and has worked with polling places to ensure accessibility with individuals with disabilities. but although most polling places now have accessible voting machines that gao recently found that half of, quote, accessible voting machines may pose problems too many with disabilities such as those in wheelchairs. what actions has the civil rights division taken to address this problem? >> i'm familiar with that report and we are actively working jurisdiction by jurisdiction. it is because of the volume of the precincts and i know in my own state of maryland we had a number of precincts that were --

have accessibility issues so we are feverishly working to make sure not simply that the facilities are physically accessible but then working in issues involving some people in in vision impairment and we've read more about that or heard more about that recently bought there is a broad part of an overall agenda ensuring everyone eligible to vote can do so. >> that is so important and thank you mr. chairman. if i had known i would have to rounds i wouldn't have come down so hard on the ranking member who had an important armed services committee hearing and i apologize for that. that was uncalled for. >> mr. chairman if i could i just want -- my staff and me something i wanted to make sure was in the record relating to the fbi hate crimes report. according to the information i

received, the most recent fbi hate crimes report documents the since 2001 so the number reported in 2008 was 7783 which was up from 7624 in 2007 so that is the highest level since 2001 and i will be certain to share this information with senator sessions but i just wanted to make sure the record was complete regarding what the data shows and i can tell you from our own enforcement experience as i said at the outset the phone is ringing off the hook and the cases are more and more brutal and we got a lot of father-son teams, one in indiana, one in south carolina passing down their hatred to their children and it is remarkable. we sentenced a person to threatening the president last week in arkansas. we have a case pending involving threats against the heads of the

national council of la raza and when this person was pending trial he threatened the pretrial service officer in his case and he has now been detained. so there's a lot of dangerous people who want to divide this country along racial, ethnic and other lines. >> that is consistent with the information i think each of us have observed in our own communities and it's clearly a circumstance we need to take aggressive action and we think you for the manner in which you are receiving in this regard. i do send an open invitation to all of my colleagues on this committee we can get more reliable information to the fbi from local officials on these types of activities i figure would be useful and i did offer aid legislation to deal with homeless to get the information as we could act on whether the

significant problem, violence against people who are homeless and i did that not to initiate new policy but to find out what the facts are so we can try to develop the policies to protect people in the community and it was not received in a way that we could proceed in this committee and if there is an interest by the republicans to try to have the fbi have more reliable information in this area i can assure you i am very happy to work with any of my republican colleagues so we can have effective information to work on. absent that we do have the fbi information that shows the rise in hate crime activities and we do have local information from our local law enforcement and we also have the poverty center in which is produced a great deal of information in this regard all confirming there's been an alarming increase in hate crime type of activities in this country and we thank you for

moving forward aggressively in this area and i appreciate your testimony. >> thank you for your time. >>f there is nothing further, the committee will stand adjourned. >> the record will stay open for seven days. [inaudible conversations] let's meet another winner of the c-span's didn't conduct metric competition. a fight to eight minute video we asked students to talk about one of the country's greatest strengths or challenge facing the country. today we talked to riya patel of vermont. riya, thank you for talking to us today. how was it going? >> good, how are you? >> i'm good. thank you. the name of your document is "the land of opportunity quotee? >> we are making a list of challenges and strengths about the country and we thought in hard times like this there are so many challenges we are facing so why don't we look on the

bright side of things and doing a documentary on the strength of the country and we looked at a list of the country's strengths and they all seemed to fall into the same category of opportunity to read and we also heard the name the land of opportunity before so we decided the would be the title of the video. >> what type of opportunities do you think the united states has to offer? >> it has a lot of great opportunities and as we mentioned in the video there is freedom of rights, no cultural or religious restriction, safety, stable government, law, education, jobs and a lot more and true freedom, anybody and everybody is given an education and you can practice any religion and proceed your goals without be discriminated and you can also feel safe in this country as well. >> does your community reflect diversity? >> definitely. our small community reflects diversity and we have a lot of different ethnicities living together. there are mexicans, african americans, indians, bosnians and more and it's great to see different people of the world

living together peacefully. >> to enter bidding your documentary a former citizen of iraq. so how did you get the interview and what did you learn from her? >> when we were planning to buy gentry we've realized we wanted to interview someone with a powerful story could tell about how he or she feels in america and the but types of opportunities they are given. we had a few people that we were considering such as one of our custodians in our school who was from iraq. but her religion wouldn't let her be on camera so being in america we optus we respect her decision because she had the freedom to make that choice. but dima agreed to give interviews and we asked about her life iraq to see if she was the right candidate for the interview and once we heard her experience we knew that dima was able to tell how her real-life experience. >> what impact did her life experience of a document? >> it was unbelievable someone around my age had gone through those kind of the spirit i could never imagine myself in her situation. it was sad to hear about the

violence that occurs in iraq and how it affects everybody there. >> what did you learn from her and speaking with her? >> i've always heard people say we should be grateful for what we have in this country. the growing technology and advancements sometimes you forget how fortunate we are what you're in a -- hearing dima's story reminded me of the attendees and we are living the good life in america so while we have the opportunity to live such a great life we should take every chance we get and appreciate that we are so privileged to live in such a great country. >> you guys use a lot of creative elements in your documentary. how did you decide to use all of those? >> ever since the three of us begin producing videos we've always liked producing exciting and creating videos even though we are supposed to produce a documentary it doesn't mean it can't be creative and week thought that the idea of finding an old dusty book and writing about flout would be fun and also informational at the same time. we just thought it was a cool idea and would be a new learning experience to develop a read aloud session. >> what did you enjoy the most

on the documentary? >> working on the document free i enjoyed pretty much everything. it's always a lot of fun to work with them and our teacher is an amazing person. he's really the decade. he comes in at like 6:30 in the morning so we can work on our videos and there's a great when we learned from him and filming and editing the he goes some of my passions. i had a blast producing this figure and was a great experience to overcome the challenges of our own and i hope to put savitt in the future. >> thank you for talking to us today. congratulations on the wind. >> thank you. now what's what portion of the documentary >> opportunity for all and the common good. you can be a woman, become a race, having disability come in a sexual orientation, be in any financial situation, have any political view and you will not be discriminated. in the u.s. any individual has the freedom to reach for the stars and pursue their goal

about 64% full st is made of white men and just imagine how much freedom the country has as david patterson who's african-american and blind could become governor of new york. >> to kendal riya's and tired but in a tree and all of the others at studentcam.org. next we talked a political reporter about campaign fundraising

tenet fogle of politico talking about fund-raising and campaign 2010. and let's look at the numbers here before we get started. according to the most money raised for the 2010 senate campaign has the massachusetts senate race at 25 million that was for scott brown the pennsylvania comes in second with 23 million, arlen specter running for that seat. florida, 22 million, nevada, 21 million, connecticut, 20 million. then we have on the house i the most money raised for 2010 house campaigns. south carolina, second district

6 million, pennsylvania 12th district is totaling about 5 million so far, minnesota's six the district, 4 million, ohio and florida, 13th and eighth districts respectfully coming in about 4 million. that is right now those numbers change but where are we headed for 2010 as to how much the senate seats or going to cost this time are not? >> we are headed toward a super expensive election cycle and that is not only because getting more expensive to run a competitive race particularly statewide for the senate and some of the states that have a larger media markets but also because we are going to see some experts predict unprecedented spending by outside groups particularly corporations or nonprofit groups that are incorporated as well as unions facilitated by this recent supreme court decision back in january citizens united versus federal election in that case the supreme court struck down the gates of law and rules that

prohibited corporations and unions but we explicitly support or oppose candidates and we are already seeing that 527 eckert some of the offside groups the u.s. chamber of commerce which is affected by this juror up for extremely expensive aggressive campaigns that are sort of outside of the direct fund-raising that we are seeing here. so candidates are going to feel the pressure to keep up their fund raising so that they can compete and answer in some cases some of the negative attack ads they will be seen from some of these outside groups. so really a combination of factors very competitive election cycles hysterically to read the first midterm election of president particularly when the president's party controls both chambers of commerce is going to be free competitive and expensive election cycle in this case republicans gearing up for what they think are going to be

significant gains in both chambers of commerce combined with the supreme court decision combined with escalation in their races is going to make for a very expensive 2010. >> host: before we get to the outside groups an overview from open secrets bought or about fund-raising. democrats have raised about 267 million. they've spent about 152 million have cash on hand about 222 million. and republicans in the house, to under 43 million raised. they spent 128 million about 172 million cash on hand. and then democrats in the senate have raised on hundred 41 million, 76 million spent, and they have about $116 million cash on hand so far. and then the republicans, 141 million, and not as the democrats that they have raised, they've spent 61 million, a little bit less, and they have the same amount of cash on hand,

about 116 million. so what is happening here in the senate with the same amount of fund raising versus the house? >> guest: the house democrats have long had an edge in cash on hand of fund-raising which republicans cut into just on the first quarter a public interest in million dollars more than democrats and they now even that 435 districts that is not a whole lot but it is demonstrating something close to power in the fundraising in these cases and it's a little surprising given that is such a -- the factor is to be more energized and take more advantage of the opportunities in this election cycle and democrats are keeping up including the democratic national committee almost being on par with republican national committee which is very surprising the republican national committee is traditionally of frist democrats sempre knous decatur's raising

efforts pointing to some of the problems republican national committee chairman michael steel has had in the republican national committee under his tenure for dissuading large donors who do make up an enormous share of the national party fundraising from giving as much as they might otherwise be doing to the republican national committee where there are outside groups picking up the slack including republican defenders association which doesn't final reports of the federal election commission which is what we are dealing with here when we talk about fund-raising in the first quarter as well as some outside efforts during up to kind of compete with the rnc republican fund-raising supremacy and republican to be the kind of campaign arms as you will love republicans we're the ones being pushed by karl rove and well-connected republican operative some washington, d.c. called american crossroads so these are all things to watch it

into what is going to be again an intense election cycle. this first quarter of the year does seem to be important so there are some initial preliminary judgments we can make including democrats have done a fairly good job of keeping that with republicans except we should point out in a few races on the senate side you mentioned some of the senate races among the most expensive and among some of the races we see republicans out raising democrats including pennsylvania where pat is gearing up the challenge of the respecters to raise more money, florida where the republican superstar two-party heroes raised 3.5 million in the first quarter, very impressive for him. massachusetts you mentioned scott brown did surprisingly well for at that time a relatively unknown candidate against a very well-known the

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