possibly imagine. we have authors that do most of their time on public policy question, from entitlement health care to national security policy. in terms of this kind of work, the only person there, i love to be in the middle of that policy but with we found is the policy work we do is a foundation, current debates about what we should do about x,y and z need to be undergirded if you will by a very practical historical understanding. whether you on the left of the right you need to know the history of entitlements or social security which grows out of the new deal period. you need to know a history of that. if you want to know what we need to do about it, like it or not the history undergirds it and it is so important to the public debate. ..

>> it is that historical grounding. >> thank you very much for your time.

8:00 a.m. during the program, meet the students who made them. and for a list of all the winners, visit studentcam.org. >> "washington journal" continues. jason mattera joins us today and his book is "obama zombies" how the liberal machine brainwashed my generation." >> guest: any individual who puts obama's on this bus all -- genl the way the problems forever people got wrapped up in the marketing machine of 15 obama and now they are paying the price big time. that is what i wanted to write to set the record straight. >> host: talking about young people what about the total who voted? you think anybody who can voted for him is a "obama zombies"?

>> predominantly young people with you look at the margin of victory that he has among voters 18 through 29 largest age demographic shift in american history. 40 points and some swing states like indiana, north carolina and florida the youth vote predominantly carried barack obama. many young people, the fact that barack obama gave them a dave matthews ticket or at some ohio concert or jay-z. he hoped to meet up with concert tickets is the "obama zombies." >> host: who you describe as the obama's on the if you ask how they deal with the of ministration has done had they delivered on what they have done what would the answer back be? >> there are two sets of camps. and facts most of the country disapproves the way he has handled health care

policies but unfortunately there is a huge disconnect between younger americans to buy and lowered to support the president even though his policies are a fiscal disaster aimed at their future that yet if materializing he would be healing the country and have opened transparency where young people bought into and that just that they forget he is the biggest base of support and it is unfortunate that why i wrote to "obama zombies" is a behind-the-scenes look out t-mobile, went out reaching to young people and also to point* how the g.o.p. had a program for many years. >> host: you are critical of john mccain what did you like? >> guest: where do i start? he was not a conservative. he banked oval presidency on reaching across the aisle but you cannot have that

anymore but when it came to younger voters he did not have based on a college campus barack obama had more than all 1,000 he always had young people behind him his at internet outreach was amazing. john mccain internet are reached no joke it was a game called pork invaders were you had to dodge incoming projectiles from pigs. then earmarks would appear on the screen to let you know, how many obama's voted for. the graphics were not even that good it looked like pacman circa 1980. that was the heart reach. but obama higher stucco create better at of facebook and award-winning producers from cnn to upload to you today was a complete digital domination how they could learn.

>> host: jason mattera is with us until 9:55 a.m. eastern. folks may also know you from your television appearances year on camera video and your confrontational interviews. perhaps most notably and one that we may have on your web site jason mattera.com with offering 10. what drives you to do these interviews? brubeck day. >> unfortunately they like to play patty cake gantry politicians like three pubescent girls tree to the jonas brothers at a concert they just not look at them and do not ask them hard questions. looking at the 2000 page monstrosity now "the new york times" is running article showing how premiums

are going to increase and there is all of these provisions that don't line up to the promises the obama campaign was speaking during this entire process price of these are questions i asked out franken four / funds for jungle gyms and midnight basketball. they have no idea. of the mainstream media will not ask the question it is my didn't -- duty as american citizen to get answers. >> host: you did with robert gibbs. don't they see you coming and turn and run? [laughter] >> no. then you have into disarmament young people thought there'd be a difference and we see how obamacare is passed through the reconciliation process of avoiding the filibuster something that barack obama

himself said in 2005 was unconstitutional and a power grab and robert gibbs said president bush did the same thing to pass tax cuts. >> don't you think that is what we wanted so he is getting done what we want him to get done? >> the processes interco to getting legislation passed and with the banks in the process i think unfortunately many young people did not shut the ipod off for one second. looking at obamacare the premiums will rise 17% because they are now acidizing the cost of older americans and insurance companies can no longer carry a significant degree according to their age. that is what i define as the obama zombies. barack obama does a masterful job i will support him. by his policies are a slap

in the face to their future. >> host: the democratic line. >> caller: good morning. how old are you? >> guest: 26. >> caller: these young people that had voted for obama's that this eight years of bush that is forever when you were young. i would say they were largely influenced 80 years and two wars and everything that went wrong it is just at that age. >> guest: the caller is right george w. bush was out of touch with his administration with the reckless spending that was happening and i am no apologist for the republican party. but what is interesting barack obama in a year-and-a-half has racked up more deficits and george

w. bush did in the entire eight years of office. my generation will have to pay for this that is why i wrote to "obama zombies" hopefully to wake them from their slumber. >> host: can they rely on obama's fatigue on 2010 and 2012 ford you have to get candidates out there? >> you have to get candidates who will win. it cannot just be anyone but obama but a clear juxtaposition of opposite of the liberal philosophy. he thinks there is a government solution to every problem. he has shown his cards. we need to show here the solutions. >> host: it is early yet but if you look at 2012 who is that presidential candidate that could do that or the independent? >> guest: i don't know at this point* i am not willing to anoint a candidate but i will take everyone what they have to offer.

good morning mike call for republican. >> caller: how were you? i am very grateful for what he is saying but i worked on the mccain campaign in over seven counties in western virginia. i am understand where you are coming from about mccain not being a conservative and is good ground game and everything but we also need to place the blame on young people or whoever was working in the field that did not take the initiative. if i started my internship with 27 insurance from james madison university. nobody told me to do that but i did that on my own accord. the ground games has to be creative. and know how to bring people when you cannot totally blamed on mccain it passed with people on the ground and how professional they

are. >> guest: of lot of it has to be put on to maintain his ground game should have the resources. obama's scene was so cash plus they were taking advertisements out in the "guitar hero" and video games. they rocked the youth are reach ever. want to give the behind-the-scenes effort there's a lot of that conservatives can learn to adopt the tactics because some of them quite frankly are worth adopting. >> host: no surprising young people voted democratic. but if the money is behind the bombing in the 2008 campaign the boats go behind obama's but then you still argue that the folks who support -- supported him were obama zombies duped by his campaign rhetoric and promises?

>> guest: one of the promises is he would stop glaciers from melting. years in elected politician to say he would stop price from melting and the young people were cheering. applies in the face of any rational thought and bush 50 catalog to do with it but the youth vote has not always traditionally gone to democrats ronald reagan won it in 1980 and 84 by a good margin. although it is important to win and lose the elections but it is one entire generation that is an informed him that could be a disaster for political realignment. >> host: our independent line. >> caller: i would just like to debunk this young gentleman's premise that obama's of these -- obama

zombies are going to lose out. i just feel that the rhetoric that he is using is very objectionable. he sounds like lichen arch conservative and since 2000 this has spent the rhetoric they adopt any time we speak about a democrat. we had eight years of bush. you are right. people turned against them. why do you think they did that? because theyaw0 years of march conservatism did nothing for this country. >> guest: it was not eight years apart conservatism in fact, george to be bush a borrowed and spent and bailed out many, many companies that conservatives were against that but obama has doubled down on those policies. looking at $1 trillion

deficits for years to come and that will have to be repaid by my generation. i am looking for fiscal responsibility. i am a proud conservative because i believe and individuals not government empowerment but the individual liberty. >> on t.a.r.p and bailing out the banks? would you have done that? >> absolutely not. >> host: economic stimulus bill? >> guest: that was a disaster it was to keep unemployment below 8 percent now double-digit for new -- god knows how long. >> host: general motors? >> guest: we cannot keep companies going better too big to fail. americans do not work to support other companies or governments games. the average american spends 103 days of their lives working to support a government scheme broke.

>> host: at what point* does government have to look at the consequences of failing institutions that are reasonable to intervene? would you have just lead banks fail? >> yes. other has to be consequences for bad decisions. we cannot set up a system where rewards profit and failure at the same time but have personal responsibility >> host: look at the higher consequences how do you make that choice? >> guest: we already have high unemployment if the flip side is let but companies that are too big to fail actually fail, we would not be wasting taxpayer dollars. >> host: let's hear from the democratic caller from maryland. >> caller: let me tell you, you are too young to be so uninformed.

you all look like a bunch of puppets saying the same thing to people that don't make any kind of sense. yes, we are high up as far as the budget is concerned because we have to pay for two wars that mr. bush did not pay for plus the doughnut hole of medicare part d. absolutely. all of you. all of you saying the same tune from box on down. no different but just a different face. >> guest: there is the obama zombies regardless of the policies she will support him. this has more deficits in just a year-and-a-half and george w. bush did in all eight years while fighting two wars. is crazy the amount of spending that is happening.

>> host: you are 26 what drives you are conservative policies? >> guest: interesting. in high school i was recruited for basketball and college and had a conservative of brain but saw how the conservative ideas were attacked and it turns something inside for me to be an activist on the campus and led me to come to washington d.c. >> host: spokesperson for young america foundation and now at human events. where can goldstein that online? >> human events online. >> host: republican collared. >> caller: i have been waiting a long time to air my views side of know where to begin. let's go back to the bush reelection in 2010 and a be brief presentation that the whole thing was rigged and

that was florida. i saw that kind of thing happening in the next thing happening is right here. you have a bank in front of you. he is so smug. let me see him come up with solutions that he is criticizing. did you have any idea is? you know, how to save the country? go back to bush. he went into afghanistan. no. iraq first. to save the iraq people. doesn't he know it is a tribal system? was indeed taking advice? akon cardis if there ever was one because he was there for oil. i am a republican and shamed to be one. >> guest: most of the problems emanating from washington today are too much over reach. all of the legislation they

are debating and their solution is to create over more overreach. my solution is simple you have to cut back on the programs and people know best how to spend their own money and cover their own lives. bad as the founding direction of this country and liberalism for many, many years has tried to increase the power of washington and buena vista -- minimize washington and those are start difference is and read the leaders to make the difference. the book is not about young people in particular but the obama administration uses them as cheap to promote the socialist agenda that is why it is more important to stand up with obama zombies. >> host: "obama zombies" is his first book. go-ahead collar. >> caller: i voted for obama and i am a little

disappointed but if we were to put mr. mccain in there we would be bombing iran right now. i think if you look at the lesser of two evils, i would never put mr. mccain and they're especially with sarah palin. as vice president. if he would have died, he is old enough to die, i don't want to see him die. >> host: one quick question. you voted for obama. what is one area he has disappointed you most? >> guest: i think the first thing he should have done, personally i think if

we make our solar power and wind power we can stop the dependency. >> guest: no. wind and solar power is a fantasy most is provided by oil, coal and nuclear we should continue to ramp that up. all of these policies and i think young people in general are skyrocketing past 20% among the black men unemployment rate is 50% these are results from the failed policies of this obama administration. >> host: maggie is on the democratic line. good morning. >> caller: good morning. bless your heart and

enthusiasm i have fillings and my teeth debtor older than you. your concept of republican conservative began because it was much different prior than the reagan administration your views of the free market and smaller government. grover norquist part of the rhetoric about smaller government and being able to shrink it to the size where it could be drowned in a bathtub. the policies that when republicans were in power, they had control of congress and the white house they would spend like drunken sailors then when they were out of power they would scream deficit. as far as the free market there is no such thing and certainly not a failed market is rigged for corporations and it squeezes the working class to the point* where they have no

power and what was in years past the equivalent of three jobs and being paid less than they would during that time for one job. reagan came in and busted up the union's and did everything to disables of working-class and we were so busy trying to make the ends meet that they could not be informed. and the reason someone as young as you have a voice that you have because there is no news we have corporate unknown to networks that created not a news network but it used to be a few said you were a news network you had to buy regulations apply a service to the public and now it is infotainment and they don't have the time to research although they could pick up a newspaper. >> host: to cover a lot of bases let's see what it

jason mattera times 81 information is more available now been any time in history i hope they get their news from c-span end of the blogosphere people can be informed but what maggie was talking about was the typical pedestrian left-wing talking points. reagan did not control congress it was democrats. and ray again cut taxes 70 percent down a 20% but the biggest tax cut of american history if you look at the 25 years since having the biggest upward mobility swing economic progress we have ever seen and the net worth of america as a whole have more than doubled from 1981 through 2007 after the reagan tax cut. tax cuts across the board

spur investment. i'd like the marxist class warfare. with top employers against employees. if it weren't for rich people i would be out of a job. quite frankly i think rich people because i do not want my paycheck to bounce every two weeks. my book is published by evo publishing. >> host: she was talking about the media outlets did you have a chapter on the new media muzzle and you write about google and also apple and. >> that the relationship with silicon valley became with it is the google presidents were watching six google executives including larry page and eric schmidt donating $25,000 apiece to

fund the swearing-in party as one of the largest corporate donations to the inaugural committee and now on to its cousin apple although they are competitors that did not stop them from teaming up for the apple iphone it drives aot of traffic to go which dominates internet search and advertising. you are critical of eric schmidt and google and mac but clearly in the last few years are successful entrepreneur business models but do you have a problem with them supporting the candidates of their choice? >> there is the irony would have these companies that are great business models providing a service in the free-market but yet to their supporting policies by this administration that will four to growth and so it is the irony of ironies and it is liberal before business

said eric schmidt himself when campaigning for the stimulus package that failed, he talked about how we need a balance with the merger between socialism and capitalism to find a happy medium. now we don't eric schmidt. the point* in the book was he brought google to the place he has been because of capitalism not a merger between that and socialism. >> host: the republican and caller. good morning. >> caller: i am a conservative voter resulting in the fact with the abortion issues in politics. and i also recognize the fact that during the fdr times i believe in his philosophy and i think it would carry out of the americans system but the opposite would be carried out but the problem with

america today is we were living under the fdr policy but we destroyed the large young working taxpayer base by abortion. we got 70 or 80 million would be taxpayers pushing daffodils. >> host: do address the issue of abortion? >> guest: i do not. but i am pro-life. >> host: what about social issues in general for those that voted for obama and those that didn't? >> guest: there is a social disconnect between younger and older americans particularly with pro-life and gay marriage. on college campuses you don't hear a wide variety of conservative ideas that all part of you're only given liberal ideas from your professor you're not having a forum to balance education and opinion. that is one reason why there

is such a disconnect. >> host: the independent line. >> caller: i hope everybody is doing well. i actually read a few pages of the book because it caught my attention. i really could not believe some of the things that you are saying and that you wrote to in your book. like bringing up taxes under reagan and yet to people bring of taxes all the time even though somebody has to fix the economy and 80% of the people read in the polls that the economy was screwed up not by a obama's but by bush. >> guest: that caller is

the obama zombies and has not read the book the top marginal tax rate was 25 and today it is 35 and was the bush taxes expire it will be 40%. the dirty battle secrets every time there's a mad -- major tax cut by president bush, a kennedy, reagan, the number or percentage of taxes paid far by the so-called rich the percentage has always increase today we have nearly 50% of the country that are not paying taxes. that is why you will have a lot of obama zombies because they reap the benefits they don't have to pay and sooner or later it will cross you have a lot of people that are frustrated today and expressing the of rage because they are tired of the money being confiscated. >> host: what is your view

of the tea party movement? >> guest: i love them. i spoke to gatherings in rhode island, a morristown new jersey, and they are very angered by the level of government spending comment generational step that is taking place under the obama administration. people from all races and all creeds better about there i think it is a great unified grass-roots movement >> host: raising issues concerns over capitol hill over black members of congress and surveyed from "the new york times" talked about the makeup of the teapartiers. from your i.r.a. is how prevalent are the sorts of expressions? of gracious -- racist expressions? >> the premise of the

narrative is completely absurd pro these congressmen who had suppose it up with that's -- epithets nobody has been able to verify. >> host: how would that be verified? >> guest: you cannot just make the accusation. hundreds of thousands of people around the country are protesting. are there a few netballs? i am sure but the movement is not driven by racism or a hatred for obama's himself other media outlets are trying to paint the narrative it is angry voip folks but morristown new jersey tea party i am porter rican by the way but the guy who spoke right after me was a black man. we don't care about a person's skin color the left is categorizing people on

who they sleep with or the racial make up for the gender but we don't care we treat them as individuals go ahead democrat line. >> caller: good morning. thank you for the program and think god force -- c-span that a guest this a little beneath the normal standards and it turns out that you were undercut by the use of out of context quotations and falsehoods. you call it a shell game and say not only is 34 the hottest year on record but before world war ii which is them cooling for four main but your data is only u.s. temperatures but globally it is over the last two decades you made the claim on the basis of u.s. temperature

because regional temperature varies greatly scientists use the global temperatures to analyze global change. the national oceanographic and atmospheric institute said it was among the warmest 10 year period and 130 years. you also think it is largely a function of the sun co2 is not a pollutant which it is less than 1% of the atmosphere. you also suggest that times reporter is a denier but when there is a strong relationship and you also say we are experiencing global cooling but every year it is the top 10 warmest year on record and who is the zogby? >> host: you make your point*. >> guest: the caller has to get his facts straight.

>> host: bu's talking about the national oceanographic and atmospheric institute? too negative date is correct. we just have the climategate scandal that just happened over in britain they were suppressing numbers and dissenting views and nasa was taking its lead from the research unit that only scientists believe and global warming and i point* out in my chapter that is not true "the new york times" reporter the caller referred to he miseries debit -- misrepresented the quote to. he says there are scientists tumble sides with degrees to disagree and senator inhofe

has a list of more than 650 scientists around the country who disagree with the promise that man is responsible. in the last 10 years we have a cooling trend that is taking place. it is always better around called temperature and climatic but to say man in all his fine net -- finite could warm the planet is at the height of arrogance also from barack obama himself to say he will stop glaciers from melting. >> host: when? >> guest: during the campaign. all the time. >> host: republican caller go-ahead. >> caller: i am not singling it out but and thursday was added to the party and i a agree with what is being said about the

policies of like the few to be more consistent ron paul gave the best speech. but when the talks about interventionist foreign policy that is just wrong. you cannot say something about the obama then be in favor of the war. >> host: any thoughts? >> guest: the tea party movement is largely driven by the disgust of the level of spending it doesn't have to be with poor's or social policy. >> host: a democratic caller excuse me independent line go-ahead. >> caller: good morning.

i was calling those people from the beginning when he was running for president they were getting called the obama zombies because they don't see it. >> host: we will let you go there and wrap up with jason with final thoughts. >> guest: i appreciate your support. she is from staten island i grew up in brooklyn. many americans buyer's remorse have said in. they may have been former zombies but now slop back to reality because policies are at a direct aim of their futures and what he has promised has not materialized. i hope many young people like up, -- wake up to realize a futures are in jeopardy but the g.o.p. has a conservative outreach to

young people because they cannot conceive they don't -- the use of any longer. >> host: of 39 author of "obama zombies" how the liberal machine brainwashed my generation" thank you for being with us today. jason mattera >> it is early april we're at the organization of american historians are meeting we're in the book publishing section and

goolsbee 21 of the authors were featured here. having in a book come out called books as weapons. what is an interesting concept to tell the story of what? >> guest: it tells the story of a joint effort of the american government and the book publishers to help win the piece as lynette -- as well as the war but to provide the opportunity for publishers to get their books to the international markets in ways they never have before. >> host: how did the concept get going? >> then notion of books as weapons is from the old added did -- added to the pen is mightier than the sword that the ideas are important they could be i.d.'s to be defended.

the consulate books then wartime which was a publisher's organization and came up with the idea of the slogan of books as weapons in the war of ideas and that was adopted nationally by president roosevelt. >> host: could something like that happen today? >> guest: that is a good question i conclude my book on speculating if that could have been. of the world were to averts that affected public opinion through the use of books was big through the cold war and it pretty much died out in the late seventies or early eighties whether or not it would be effective in the middle east today is not known but there is somebody working on trying to get good american books, a classics like "the federalist papers" translated into arabic and persian of.

>> host: from that example it is a private initiative? >> it is but the ones i am talking about the second world war were partnerships between the federal government and various agencies and the book publishers to do a job of great importance for the war and the publishers found they could do well by doing good. nobody has any doubts they were not patriotic were motivated by all of this but clearly trying to plan for the future of their industry after the war where the notion of being able to sell to the foreign markets looks was more promising than it had before in part because they are great rivals internationally and their trade has been so great fleet affected and really a disaster. >> host: the opportunity to do good than well after? >> but they did well during the war because the

government paid all expenses of getting these american books into the hands of european civilians soon after liberation as possible. that is how they could get their wares into the hands 57 or they translated? >> guest: some more and some were not. the ones that were principal a poor the project were translated specifically for the project. there is a smaller series published in england called the transatlantic addition. some were left when translated in english because these books were meant to re-read by the lead to leadership community emerging after the war on the notion that these people would be in a position too really affect family members and businesses and community as a way to get more bang for the buck weaver using

magazines and newspapers for mass appeal and a figure the english as a language that many people from germany and france in particular scandinavia would no but also translated into french, italian, german and dutch. >> host: how were they selected? >> guest: principally to meet very important and specific propaganda goals. a task to be shared of the consulate at wartime which is the trade organization and the office of war information which is the chief propaganda agency. the process was very elaborate and went on forever that delayed the start of a program among everything and then head of the project for the office of war information said

virtually everybody but the janitor had a hand in selecting. >> the other selection is that for the most part recently published meaning they would not have been available during the war and the conditions of war but also its men to that these were current books in many cases. some had won the pulitzer prizes and on the best-seller list and one way or another the book-of-the-month club selection in order to get the books that were best sellers for the european

markets. >> host: of the american and classics? >> no. it might have been with the main point* is that they wanted books that were being read in the united states as well that would give the notion that would make it obvious they were works of propaganda. the british did much the same thing they commission books to be written as propaganda we selected books that could serve a propaganda but not be assailed by not these are the communist for being the work of the u.s. government. >> you said some of them titles in print today? >> there are very few novels. one was for whom the bell tolls and another was a walk

ahead in the sun about a particular operation in italy and one, i don't know if it is read so much anymore but one that was very popular the human comedy about a young telegraph western union messenger boy in a small town in california who asked to tell many of his neighbors and friends one of the sons or daughters were killed in the war. as i said the books were chosen for specific propaganda reasons. a human can did he -- comedy would was chosen primarily to given europeans including germany the notion of ordinary americans. what we needed to do was to counteract years of nazi

propaganda in addition to claiming their great superiority it the little american culture as undistinguished and crass and americans were money hungry business people and the gangster quality of american life was very broadly preached by the propaganda machine but also have been introduced to the europeans by american film. >> host: the question is what people into word, i did people really need this? >> they were getting them to liberation. it was necessary as one officials said this intoxicates them.

but obtaining much. >> is as necessary? >> yes. for a number of reasons. it could have been on a scale but quite remarkable. >> guest: there is a film bureau also a film agency they were the ones but it is interesting fact those that proclaim to give us the and during propaganda of all that they would sit on shelves rather than re-read like a newspaper to be discarded it and be the subject of what a lot of

scholars are calling the community will leader of newly liberated france in some small town may be a community where he would tell people about what he read in those books are pass them on and they would discuss them. >> host: did your research demonstrate if the upper was successful? >> guest: my research did not and i don't think it could have. but it is a good question and if one would like to know, if the task was to completely eradicate europeans feeling about america as being materialistic, a crass, many hungary, i am not sure that have succeeded because those are many things europeans and let people around the world say about us even though they admire much about our freedom and popular culture.

the problem was this project was done by agencies of government and non-profit setup during the war effort that were actually put to sleep basically after the four was over it went out of business within a few weeks of the end of the more toward the end of the year. these books were bought by people all over europe but they would not have known where to write a thank-you letter as the gis did for the books that they got but also there was no way in which there was an agency that could follow up on research later for the fact. >> talk about the debating that went on before hand

what was said time point*? >> the goal was to get out and ready to go as soon after liberation as possible toward the day for various reasons it was to go and amaze saying would just call operation where they at first could find books that were still available through american bookstores and america and publishers when that proved unsuccessful went to the books expressly designed for this than there were overseas editions and 20 transatlantic but to get the rights to publish these and getting them typeset and printed and bound, translated was about

a year and a half with under wartime conditions the shortage material and shortage of labor, quite a remarkable enterprise. this project really in effect was out of business just shortly after the war against japan. there were a few things trickling on after that beverly nobody in charge. >> host: how many books were a part? >> the biggest bucks that were expressly published, there were about 546 million. but there were countless other millions of books that had been assembled earlier and shipped over the for the purpose fill books were ready to seven that is a big number with a population of western europe.

>> guest: and they would not be bought by the masses but the leadership. >> host: that is a lot of books. >> guest: yes. one thing i find quite remarkable about this as well is that within about four or five weeks, it is unclear exactly when this happened but within four or five weeks of the landings of normandy beaches, equal numbers of british and american books were hot off loaded onto the beaches of normandy and the fact that obviously additional troop reinforcement and tanks and bazookas and ammunition and medical supplies to acquire priority is not all surprising but what is remarkable that books were considered to be so important than the liberation of europe, that

they came as soon as they did but under the hardship that they did. >> host: in the end the publishers, i did they do well? >> guest: for the most part. it is almost impossible to say it was these books that primed the pump in that way but it helped. publishers were mostly at fault they had enough of a market domestically but they did well during the war and they wanted to do better after the war and they saw the damage done at all made to the british book trade but the german drug trade so i saw real opportunities there so europeans were so poor they did not have money for books, a currency

control. but after that phase ended it was possible for them to expand efforts to create offices abroad and so on. >> when did you first become aware of this? that i have to do this? >> guest: exactly. about 10 years ago i decided literally in the middle of one night i would select books about the books that were designed and mostly published with some aspect of the war effort of the second world war but also magazines and newspapers there were a lot of those created mostly for the gi. i had no lot about of them and i had a few that my a father or my friends had given me the folks that were meant for the gis in particular and even than

miniaturized edition of "the new yorker" that was intended for the g i at overseas but i never heard of the civilians overrun by the nazis round of landesk and gis who liberated them and i bought most of the books on e-bay. recently i found a a reference of the overseas edition i saw a picture of it and immediately thought it was something i had not heard of before and it even looked like what i have seen the americans plucked out. >> host: how long ago was that? >> guest: probably about nine years ago. and then i realized