magic, you guys led the magic by 11, identical scores, 51-40. today you had the nine-point lead. jameer had eight quick and cut the lead to three. then you guys went 17-2 over next three and a half minutes. was it in your mind at all about what they have done in the regular season in coming back to win, and how important is that run right there? >> well, we remember that. we talked about it yesterday. the games we played, they beat us three times in the regular season, and i think it was the last time we played here, we were up. and even in boston when we were down, we came back in the fourth quarter. they're a team that you can't give them any light when they're down because they have such great shooters on the perimeter and dwight, you know, he's so powerful in the post. so they're going to go on a run. they're going to make shots. we couldn't rest. you turn your head one moment and someone gets a three up in the air. it is a... for us, we just got

to continue to stay humble and know they're going to find a way to adjust to what we've done to them tonight and know that it's never... we can never rest from one series, from one game to the next, from one quarter to the next. >> ray, mike vega, "boston globe." just wanted to ask you, just curious, how did dwight howard's remarks going into this series, saying that they would win, not that they could win, but that they would win, how did that play in the celtics' locker room, and did you derive any kind of motivation from that? and is there a fine line between confidence and overconfidence? >> well, there's a lot of things that i believe that i can do and that a lot of things i believe i will do, but a lot of times i just keep 'em to myself and just quietly work on them and prepare for myself and even for this team as a team, we feel the same way. we know what we want to do. we know what direction we're trying to head in. so we don't need to put it out there, but, you know, we'll show

it every day in practice and, you know, putting it out there on the floor every day. i don't think anybody on this team really knew or paid attention to his comments or even, you know, anything that they say for that matter because for us it's about what we're doing and we're focused on, you know, fine-tuning our offense. you know, yeah, we watch their plays, but for the most part i think the media aspect of it we try the stay out of because it doesn't do us any good. again, we're focused on what we need to do as a team and individuals. >> all right. celtics take game one and history is on their side. as the game one winner goes on to win over 80% of conference finals in nba history. two prior postseason meetings for the celtics and magic, the game one winner went on the win both series. meanwhile, vince carter, 9-18 shooting, 23 points in his first career game at the conference finals. he's at the podium live.

let's listen in. >> move the ball to the open man to get good shots. do a great job of contesting, especially when you're in the paint, and it took us a while to figure that out, but when we did, we played a lot better. o. >> vince, what happened there at the beginning? was it the layoff? was it jitters? >> not jitters. you know, you have jitters this far you're not going to win many games. i think they came out ready to play. and they jumped on us early. offensively and defensively. and, you know, when you get down on a good team like that, particularly on the defensive end when we weren't getting stops, it's going to be hard. and we fought like hectoget back to the game. unfortunately when you're down, you know, that many points with about nine minutes to go, when they defend like they do, it's going to be tough. >> vince, it's been so long since you guys lost, a month and a half, what was the locker room like? you guys aren't used to that.

what was the locker room like and how do you expect you guys to respond? >> upbeat. we were just very supportive of each other. we were just glad to see everybody really buckle down and try to get back into the game. you know, at some point in time we knew you can't lose. it's going to happen. our goal was to go out there and first off protect home court and win every game. why think anything less. it didn't happen. so it was time to bounce back. i think it was a wake up call that we really needed, in my opinion. i think it's great to go out and see it and you always want to learn your lessons but still win, and it didn't work out that way tonight. >> vince, coming off the long layoff, did you feel like you guys were rusty in that first quarter, quarter and a half? >> just weren't... i don't think we were prepared for the level that they were ready to play. and they were ready to go from the jump. and we weren't on their level.

in the beginning more than anything. >> vince, that was sort of the same thing i was going to ask bo you about the intensity level just seemed to be so much higher than first two playoff serieso that you guys swept. and also there's smothering defense. how much do you attribute the 18 turnovers that you guys had to your defense and to your ball handling? >> i wouldn't say itn was ball handling. if we were throwing the balletu away, we weren't dribbling. it's more us not being patient. i think when you have team like that that rally plays smothering defense and it's very physical at the same time, you have to just be patient. they tend to rush you. that's just how they play. i think us just seeing plays and open and at the same time guessing for next time, i think once we settled down and played our brand of basketball, we played better but we were really coming from 20 points down at the time if i recall, and that's

tough. >> vince you attacked the basket early. if they stay home, is that what you guys have to do to try to get some offense? >> we have to make plays. more than anything take what's there and just try to be aggressive, whatever that means, whether it's getting in the basket and trying to finish our find open guys. they do a great job of contesting and making it tough without fouling. and, you know, that's something you have to learn. >> how tough is it when they have the three 6'10", 6'11" guys in the lane? >> it's tough. you just have to go in strong and find a way to finish or move the ball. so after a while when you learn that you can't finish, just move ball, try to find an open guy and take what's there. there again, once we kind of got

some stops and got in transition and attacked and then found the open guys, we started to open the lane up a little bit. not much. >> how tough did you see them making it on dwight just throwing all those bodies at him? >> yeah, that's what they're going to do. they're going to make it tough for him. they're going to foul him. they're going to be physical with him. he's a physical presence himself. but that's what they're going to do. and we have to do a better job of first of all when he's open getting him the ball. and we have to make plays to make it easier for him. once we get down and we're hitting shots and we're making plays, i think they have to kind of worry about what we're doing and then i think it opens things up for him. some nights where he gets rolling and it opens things up for us, so we have to return the favor, if you would. >> is there anything mentally he can do to change his approach at all? >> for him? >> yeah, it's easy to get frustrated obviously. >> just keep playing. there again, it's going to be tough. it's going to be a battle. it's going to be a war.

we know that. they've been there before. we've been through some battles throughout this season. and we still feel good about ourselves. and we're going to continue to support and stay on him to keep him, try the make sure he's not frustrated and just play basketball, have fun. you know, i think he puts pressure on because he wants to win. and he wants to be perfect or as perfect as possible and do what he has to do to lead this team because he's one of... he's the captain of this team, he's the leader. the leader trying to lead his team. at the same time, we tell him he's not out there by himself. we're going to support him. i think when he realizes that, he settles down and he did that later on in the game. >> vince, aside from the aggressive offense of the celtics' team, is there anything more that could have been done to follow through with regard to the three-pointers that were missed on our side? >> yeah, just make 'em. we just have to make 'em. they are few and far between.

they did a great job of challenging our three-point shots and staying home on our shooters. so when they're there, they're there. we just can't force them. and we'd have to... they're very stingy. so we have to take what's there. once you kind of loosen up some of those things, they'll open up and we'll hit them. we've proven that all year. >> vince, you guys talked the last couple days about how you knew this was going to be a tough, long series. does this ram that point home now? >> it's understood. we knew that com in. we knew that before the game. we knew that when the ball was thrown up for the start of the game. it's now what are we going to do about it, how do we respond. >> we shall see how they respond in game two as vince carter leaves after a 23-point performance in game one, his first career conference finals. you heard him say and you heard stan van gundy say they're not using rust as an excuse in game one, but it sure looked like it early. >> it did, absolutely.

the fourth quarter only the really time we saw the orlando magic team that had won all eight of its postseason games prior to today. so much for the celtics being an old team that can't get it done. they've taken back home court advantage in this best-of-seven series. game one, past two eastern conference champions having at it. one of eight assists from rajon rondo to tony allen.alle >> he's young. >> you betcha. celtics led 22-14 after one. they led by ten at that point, nine at the half. third quarter, magic trying to come back. 20 points for jameer nelson.i pulls orlando to within three. but then the celtics started to pull away again. paul pierce, 22, nine and five. celtics led by six. then moments later, ray allen. 25, seven and three.to c's led by 16. fourth quarter, magic trying to get back in this one. they call an offensive foul on dwight howard. possibly a phantom foul.'s

>> nominations for best actor in a playoff series. >> glen davis right up there with it. maybe a flop, but they get the offensive foul. under two minutes to go, magic down seven. it's j.j. reddick. he had nine off the pine. boston went scoreless over five-plus minutes late in the fourth quarter. dwight howard, seven turnover,ts just 3-10 from the field, but he pulled the magic within three. moments later vince carter at the line. the magic down four. the intentional miss and check out jameer nelson cleaning up. timing things perfectly. magic back within two. but after a pair of ray allen free throw, six seconds to go, rashard lewis, no dice. and the celtics take game one in orlando 92-88. it's the first loss for the magic since april 2nd. magic had won 14 in a row dating back to the regular season. 25 for ray allen. he is... the celtics are 7-0 in

the postseason when he scores 18 or more. back down to orlando for live coverage. paul pierce at the podium. >> when you started out, did you feel you had your touch today? it seemed like you were really on but then you only ended up with eight shots. how did all this happen? >> >> you know, from the start doc told me to be aggressive. i know i could have been a little bit more aggressive, but, you know, i try to do things in the framework of the team and, you know, pick my spots. but i was able to get to the line, rebound the ball and do other things. i helped us win. that was key. i want to continue to go out there and stay aggressive throughout the whole game. >> hey, paul, willie mae from wbgz radio. talk about the defensive pressure that you guys put up and the key to winning game one of this series. >> well, that's what we are. we're a defensive team. we feel like we want to get up into the shooters and not allow them to get free looks.

we feel like we got guys who can cover dwight such as perk and rasheed and baby one on one, so that allows us to get up on their shooters and be a little bit more aggressive and not allow us to open up their three-point game. i think that's going to be the key for us throughout the rest of the playoffs and this series. but that's pretty much who we are. we're a defensive team. we apply pressure and see what happens. >> paul flannery, weei. did you guys feel like coming into this that you were in a really good rhythm coming off the cleveland series and getting right back in and they've been off for a week? >> yeah, i really did. i really felt like, you know, the two days off was just enough. we've been playing every other day for the last week, and, yous know, we felt really good goingn into this game. the rhythm was there, the defense was there, the passing was there. and, you know, we didn't lose too much from the two days. but we got to expect orlando to be a lot better in game two.

even though they had a week off, i don't know if it helped or hurt them.h who knows what the outcome would have been if they had shorter rest. but that's the way the schedule is. and hopefully we can come in, game two, same type of rhythm. >> paul, over to your left. larry ridley, whdh in boston. talk about your aggressiveness in the third quarter. you had 13 in the third quarter. you guys had the 15-1 run to stretch the lead to 20. >> i was a little upset with the way i played in the second quarter because i had more turnovers in the second quarter than shot attempts. i was a little tentative. the key for me is just to stay aggressive. when the shot's there, take them. i thought i was passing up some shots in the second quarter. so i wanted the third quarter, if the shot was there, doc was telling me to be aggressive, take your time, you know, the shots are going to be there. just take your time. i was able to be aggressive whether i found guys or got to the mid-range jumper. >> paul, can you just talk about how you get the three-shot foul, how you pulled that play off and

how big was it? how do you get it to happen first of all? >> well, i saw after i got a rebud or a steal or something, i saw jameer, and it looked like he was going to foul me intentionally just to stop the break, and once i saw, that i wanted to get the ball up as fast as possible without putting it back on the ground for three shots. just the way he was looking, he was coming in to grab me and i wanted to get the ball up. >> paul, we're going to look at the points and people are going to look at that stuff, but the nine rebounds you had and just talk about getting to loose balls and that kind of thing and the importance of that for you guys overall. >> well, you know, the bigs always talk about and coach, you know, the guards have to be able to come in and get the long rebounds. you know, dwight is a load to box out. that's league's leading rebounder. so perk, you know, he always says i'm going to put a body on him, box him out and the guards got to come in and get the rebounds. i think we made a conscious

effort, not only me but ray coming in and grabbing those long rebounds. that's going to be the key for us in this series, how well we rebound the ball against a very, very good rebounding team. >> paul, how important was it for you guys to show orlando that they can be beat? it's been a month and a half since they lost. is that any sort of confidence factor on your part now? >> it's been that long since they lost the game? we honestly didn't realize that, man. i don't think as team we really pay too much attention to what's happened in the past. we really focus in on that day's game. they've been definitely playing well. i can't take that away from them, but the focus for us is, you know, to try to win every game when we step on the court, regardless of what the team is doing in the past. you got to show up for today's game. that's what it's all about. those are the things we really don't worry about. >> all right. the thoughts of paul pierce after the celtics' game-one win. we're still awaiting dwight

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the delaware and the british arriving in philadelphia. and so when i imagine that being in spring of 76, washington was in the city. he had left his encampment in new england and within philadelphia gathering things to think for the military, including 10 study ordered from another philadelphia upholsterer. so i doubt he's making the rounds through those shops. george ross makes perfect sense as a visitor to her shop during that period as well as robert morrissey was a member of congress in a fierce, but also deeply involved in the defense of pennsylvania. so as you work through those stories, a lot of the does ring true. and the part that means the most to me as a historian of women in work is that cutting of the star. when i think about that moment, i'd seen a young woman widowed in her twenties worried about the future and the partnership that he had with her fellow upholsterer husband was not to be.

over the course of that winter, 75, 76, the continental builds and 80. william around philadelphia are getting contracts for the freedom flag so ships are going to need. and so when i think about that moment in the cutting of that star, what i see is a young artist in seeking a government contract and that sort of betsy ross the first when a contractor, not the first. she seemed to washington, you know, the six pointed stars would be fine, but i tell you if you need a lot of these past, five pointed stars are more efficient to make. and so i see that little glimpse of her skill and insight in that story and that to me is what's most important about that story. she goes on then to remarry after her early widowhood and manning joseph ashburn. he was a mariner and spent much of the war at sea in part because he became a privateer. and so he was at sea during the occupation of philadelphia.

he gets captured and imprisoned an old mill prison in england and died there. so betsy by 1781 is without a second time. a man comes back to was also imprisoned with ashburn was a man named john claypool. he comes back to betsy's house and tells her as was the custom in that. come i was with her husband when he died. he was a gallup man. it was courtesy that he would come back and tell her that he was with ashburn at the time of his death. they married -- they began cortinas and in matters of months. and by may of 1783 they married. finally this is the partnership that gives her the family she'd been seeking. she had two children with ashburn, one of whom survived and five additional daughters with claypool and now she has the family that's going to sport that upholstery trade or john claypool was trained as a tanner, but never really worked in that trade. he eventually landed a job at

the customs service inspecting ships a comment from all over the world, make sure their whole with the manifest they have to. that's a great job at the federal government and he becomes head of the upholster shop. if you look at newspapers or city directories that was a john claypool upholsterer and all of that is really betsy ross. they have a forcing marriage, enforcing family, a flourishing trade all through the end of the 18th century. and then right around 1800 john has a stroke. in this period, it's really before banks are invented and so there's not much of a safety net. it's hard to say for a rainy day in the family fortune began to decline. in the early 19th century they began to accept charities from the free quaker meeting who donate funds for shoes and clothes for john, tuition for the kids. and so they are in need of funds. but this is also the period -- and this is one of the great surprises of the book of betsy's

greatest like me can release the best documented air of earthlike making. in the run-up to the war of 1812, betsy ross seems to have almost a monopoly in the orders out of the arsenal. they come three-man name ted koch in this. and they knew one another through their volunteerism in the pennsylvania abolition society. another pair of fog makers to many people know mary and her mother rebekah flower moved out of philadelphia down to baltimore where mary made the star-spangled banner and their departure from the city leaves an opening for betsy ross and her daughter clarissa who was moved off ironically from baltimore to join her mother here in the fog making business. and so, in the run-up to the war of 1812, betsy ross gets a really staggering order for flags. and this is what's most moving

and exciting to me. in one order, she is asked to make 46 garrison flags with all dispatch for the arsenal. i mean, these are large flags. i calculated the book thousands is to choose this would require. and so betsy, her daughter, her nieces, the whole family would be set to work to deliver these flags. there is one order for a set of six flags that are eating by 22 b. 18 to two flag and a five-time betsy rosses house was 436 square feet on any given floor. and so i don't know where these flags were being made, but these were tremendous orders that the family really depended on in this period. and in fact, carissa and betsy sent letters soliciting work to the navy story because they needed to keep those naval contracts coming. it was very much the core of their business although they did continue to make domestic interior window shades and the nation blinds and curtains as the sort of bread-and-butter of the upholster trade for that time. toward the end of her life,

betsy's eyesight declined. she quit working in the late 1820th and moved on up to abington where she had a daughter who had settled up there. after a time, the addington girls couldn't take care of her anymore and betsy moved back to philadelphia to cherry street where she moved in with her daughter jane. i thought it would reduce some passage from the book and closing today. betsy continued to use a with her daughter's family. eventually her health failed. too feeble to move easily, she sat to the day in an armchair and her daughter's back parlor close to the fire. for a time when the sun was high, her eyesight was good enough for her to read the bible, but after a while she was content simply to keep the good work near her. the heavy volume would play for hours on open on her lap. sometimes her grandchildren would sit on the stool near her feet and read to her from it. now a little old woman grandma

claypool storytelling days were behind her. hardly a wrinkle marked her smooth white face about which the site a of luster in the eyes in the second list over to set up era we seem to shine a soft mild radiance. she continued to wear the accoutrements over trade, the solar counterweights for which her scissors still dangled, but she was no longer able to sew. her restless fingers traveled constantly around the edges of a large handkerchief. thank you. [applause] so i would love to take any questions that anybody has. yeah. [inaudible] >> i was surprised all the time in my research. as i said, i was very surprised to find so much documentation but five making so much later. you know, naturally into the project thinking i would be

recovering evidence of flag making during the revolution itself, but i wasn't expecting to find myself so interested in the war of 1812. another thread of the story was surprised to find myself writing about that became very engaged and is a thread of discussion about mental health in the 18th century. john ross, there's some hints in the record died -- there's an inscription of him at the end of his life is that he was writing a vast quantity of senseless material. and so there's something that john ross wasn't altogether a sound mind and kind of his death. what interests me about this is his mother, sarah, was committed to the wind john was a teenager. i know john's family struggled with sarah's mental health. john's struggle with mental health and then she had a cousin who was raised with her named rebecca who also at the end of

her life describes herself as having gone lunatic and seems to fear, you know, you would call it a persecution complex. she sees people all around her who are conspiring against her. i'm adjusted in the history of mental health to see that in the 18th century was sort of surprising to me. the family story of the nevada. i never knew about the duty of iraq are free as you have to follow the story wherever it goes and so i got used tape a lot of interesting places. yeah, lee said. [inaudible] >> i could never find any information about it. i was wondering if you uncovered anything new? >> joseph aspirin is such a mystery. i could never find any information on the eastern seaboard of the u.s. and so i just don't know. i think at some point about these databases become richer that story gets solved to it and

i do notice there's a mashburn rode up and adding 10 and a kind of wondered if some deeper digging up their might yield something. but i find no evidence in the papers of context with the ashburn family. he's kind of a free agent floating at the end of course in being a mariner i don't know that he was born in pennsylvania. he could have come to the city from almost anywhere and so he does remain something of a puzzle. yeah. >> i know this isn't a book about black history, but is there any insight into how the circle of stars get connected to the betsy ross. >> that's another excellent question. you know, the family never makes that claim and that i think is very important to notice. the family and a note on the talk about the stars, they say that betsy's critique was the course of the six-point versus 55, but that also in the sketch of her, the arrangement is a

regular and that betsy recommends that they be somehow arranged in mind or a circle or something. and so the family does not insist on the circular arrangement. and near as i can figure, that element at the first flag is start and circled and heard the story somewhere around the 1850's or 60's. and then i think the two stories are sort of wrapped together, that the early flag must've been arranged that way. but they made the first flag that must be the same. but i've not found a sort of look in the first time at that claim is made that she arranged the stars in a circle. yeah. >> why would she have known how to make a five pointed star? >> and other excellent question. i speculate some about that in the book because it is quite a power track. i don't know if you work for the

betsy ross and i've tried to do it a hundred times and it's hard. a couple of things come to mind. one is that john ross was a member of the masonic lodge and betsy and john did to at least a little work for the lodge and in a sonic symbolism, the five pointed star has meaning. and so, it could be that they have occasion to make templates for masonic goods, she learned that way. there is also a pennsylvania german tradition of paper cutting -- i'm going to butcher this -- something like that. some curators have said through betsy and her contacts in the city came to know some of the tech exec paper cutting inland eat-in suggests that this is a period that geometry is becoming an increasingly important part of the school curriculum. so perhaps betsy would've come to know something about folding stars and symmetry like that

through her education at school. so those are the three series that i have so far. but it's interesting, you know, maybe any flag maker they would've talked to could have done the same thing. i don't know why she has a particular little gimmick at hand. it's quite the thing of a mention of the top of the talk. i spent some time with the family and they cannot do it, you know, the robberies to do it and they can without the paper into the faulty and i'm sort of struggling, but it's very much a part of the tradition that they all learn how to do that. anything else? well, thank you all for braving the chilly day as i'm happy to hang around and chat more. thank you. [applause] marla miller is the director of the public history program at

the university of massachusetts amherst. for more about the author in her book go to betsy ross book.com. >> next, author christopher hitchens delivers a book called "crucibles: past and present." he had author salman rushdie, chair of the 2010 pen world voices festival have a conversation following the lecture. cooper union in new york city host the hour and 20 minute event. [inaudible conversations]

>> thanks for coming. i'm salman rushdie. [applause] and we are here for the closing events of what i think spent a pretty good festival, the sixth one, and often the lecture is something we care a lot about. and i still know, we have a bit of bad news and a bit of good newspaper sad news is that chairman alexi couldn't make it and we are very sad and we don't want to go into it, but unfortunate for us, the good short notice to get christopher hitchens to do the

you join nfl and ask questions christopher hitchens authorized "god is not great" and other books, here he is. [applause] >> well, thank you salman and thank you ladies and gentlemen for coming and thank you for a can for honoring me twice and once by giving me the abraham lincoln podium, which we know would encourage one to the

views. i can think of a more solid temptation than that. and also to speak in the name of both arthur miller and the troops with which those of us in the writing business will always identify him. i noticed in my top, certainly not in the same but i can say that i knew him a little. then my wife and i were married by the same rabbi who married arthur n. marilyn monroe, the same rabbi was his character witness at the same time at the house un-american activities committee because he wasn't enough that he was going to get married to the women's in the world. without the time having to ask questions about whether or not he counted as an american at all. and i can't cannot tell you just a couple of things about 10 and maryland. i just can't not, so i will.

when she was first introduced to the family, robert goldberg by the way at the end of his life was just in all efforts to lie from him for conversion to judaism. she knew when she met the miller family. and mr. and mrs. miller used to feed her because she needed a bit of fattening up. i suppose will give without. until the evening when she asked if they ever ate any other matter. [laughter] ms. monroe -- [inaudible] she was rather a modest, shy little girl. and the bathroom in the house is a bit too near the living room. swathe of shyness as you could say, she used to, when she retired their, turn on all the

top story about lily, just out of discretion, you know, you wanted not to depress bmis. end up she'd gone and he turned to his mother and said what did you take. she's a very nice girl, but she sure pieces like a racehorse. [laughter] okay, i had to do that, but it's not strictly to the purpose. somebody told me that it was possible that attendance was down because of an attempted travesty in times square last night. and if that was true, i would greatly depress and i would take it as an opportunity to remind what i wanted to talk about in the case of mr. miller and in the topic i picked, which was "crucibles: past and present," which is to say the contingent

of fear as the united states are not in the 1950's, it's incredibly easy, it's depressingly easy shall one say to get people who are the children of revolution, who are born into a country that is governed by accounts to two should with all the rights and privileges of the free society, very, very easy to get people to give that up, devalue it order panic of its amendments, it's wonderful amendment that constitute the bill of rights. and the reason why arthur miller was so important to us and remains important to us for those of you who don't remember is his one of the americans that will say no i'm not going to go along with this inmate out of his famous play recording an earlier time before the founding of the republic come before the promulgation of the constitution, when there was an era of witch hunting, which is another way of saying clerical or religious panic of

persecution to see under what conditions we look down on the poor old hermit did uneducated settlers of the bay colony. on conditions were entitled to do that. what gives us the right to come send to each other if were not short in our own minds that we would be able in the same conditions to resist. i think it's a fair bet that anyone who takes control to attend the event has played this game and there have at some point in their life. how would i shape up? what would i do when the neighbors were being shipped onto the trade or maybe because that so often comes when it too late, that maybe i should've done something before they started adding them on the trains. when should i started? would it have been with censorship, the racism, with the record and persecutions. at what point would i've taken a stand.

i would've been great. we all have had to do this and we've all had to look at societies contemporary in the past and ask well, okay, what were the fugitive slave act were still on the books and has been extended to the states of the north as well? what about the slave captures crossover into pennsylvania and new york and there's a lot of pressure. of course i'm going to shelter this one aren't i? about things that they would. everyone has -- is a pleasurable imagination until you begin to doubt yourself, and tell you begin to think i wonder if i would be that good. there's a wonderful poem by edward valencia is a conscientious director. it begins i shall die, but that is what i shall do for death. he's mounting up in the air today, his horse used the classroom. he has business in cuba, but i

will not give him a leg up. i will not tell him where that lies. i shall die, but that's all i shall do. this is a hard test or people to us. by the time i got to mr. miller he was quite old, but he continued to witness throughout his life come in many decades. i remember is that the nation magazine publishing an article a very humorous account to a dinner at the american embassy in turkey at the head of the pen delegation which him and how were pentair and how panter gave the american ambassador of turkey not lewdly ruinous time throughout the dinner all night because of turkey's treatment of the kurdish minority and i have my differences and i've had my differences with the same american ambassador and i cannot most feel sorry for ambassador starts to ache on having to face painter for an evening knowing that the american policy was complicit in a new southeast and

syria. and he couldn't let that go. he could've said were here and i delegation of rights. we can sit this one out. no you can't. this is your chance. we'll always be sorry later if you kept quiet. there's never a good occasion for keeping your mouth shut. so so far nothing but praise an offer for me. but when it can attend a good good friend of mine and a great friend of the writing and free expression and writers and people with hip as you all remember by the clerical dictator of the theocratic dictator of foreign state [inaudible] that condemned him to a life or death sentence. he condemned him to death and they been joined to bring this about which meant someone had to order his social life and other arrangements by radically for a

day. and when i remember thinking a day which is the 14th of february, 1989. well, for me, for my lot, for as this is the case, this is the test. we often wonder what it would be in our generation. most free-speech cases you'll find if you look into them from socrates onwards has to-do with blasphemy. galileo, you can fill in blanks. almost always someone is accused to have gone too far this time and to average the sensibilities of the community as well as the inheritance of the state in the city and profane to god's, which you really can't have it then where would we be? how would we know how to behave if it wasn't for celeste teal dictatorship. we would know right from wrong. we should do better perhaps than just get the usual suspects, saying the usual free speech

petition. maybe we should all say if that were a prize, explicitly applies to all those responsible and publication of the book. we should all sign a petition saying they consider ourselves responsible or the danish volunteers and occupation who said we'll wear one to and they can't get us all. so i thought it was a good idea. just to up the ante a bit. mncs and font type, whom i also would like to dedicate any value to you that these made sense. to her memory, the president of pen fortunately. it came horrible news that a lot of people were strangely reluctant. drm could reach that fire.

anyone who got too close to identify with this might themselves become the object was actually keeping away from people from the meeting we had to read from solomon spoke and keeping their names off the boat. they said no, i don't want to sign. and i told a story i didn't want to say anything at all to undermine the memory of arthur, but he said he know what, you probably don't need me. after all that jewish would attract attention and change the subject. it's amazing how persuasive fear can be for good reason. i'll behave better next time. maybe this isn't such a crux after all. and i remember thinking, this is really to meet a moral and intellectual and personal crisis because the author of the crucible has decided that this is an appoint tnt's reluctant to keep overall and very grave

trouble. it has a happy ending and has come through very well acted a number of other people's presentation. i'll never forget what i learned about how fragile, how tenuous the commitment of the society to its basic values often is and how easy it is to get people to portray them. and i'll say with this trip if you don't mind because i think it back and they think the rock is spreading. and i think it began this present phase about exactly five years ago when a small newspaper in the area of denmark published some cartoons of the figure of mohammed which was strongly for his cannot be represented. it's not a been a great value or any great force.

it's believed to be by people who like to find cultural reasons as they often do for moral cowardice. it was an organized attempt to restore the danish economy i boycotts coordinated by some very extreme denmark with certain partners in other countries. there was an open season on danish people, many of whom were attacked in other countries. by the end of it, we think at least 300 people were killed and mumbled and danish. the rice was doing christians in nigeria in countries which are never normally such as two down the danish embassy without any police intervention. it had every appearance of a horrible orchestration. what can be a clear case? here's a small scandinavian democracy which fairly heroic

reparable to not see of them. it citizens to people, its government does not allowed by sense of the press. but what was that the government clears the paper and apologize for his purity since i can't do that. i have no right to protect the publications. but at least the friends of denmark will show their faces and will have a proper discussion about this full frontal challenge to the values of the first amendment. can we do see for example what the state department will say. the bush state department here's a chance to stake out its chest. i'm very sorry about any offense called by the danish cartoonists. we don't keep the state department going for danish journalism. they could reasonably have said that wasn't its job. its job is to say we stand by our democratic allies and we

particularly feel the violation of its diplomatic immunity and could even go that far. i'm not a diplomat. and live in washington, but i'm not a politician. my great profession will stick up on this point and will have a proper discussion and the first thing is to show these people must be what the fuss is about. if we don't live now in the age of the image, where to read this? everything is interested, newspapers, magazines and of course the television. everything is to do with the pictures themselves, not one outlet in the united states will show those cartoons. not one network, not one national newspaper, not one news magazine. i couldn't even get them answered in my column online, but you could go badly, but the magazine is full of responsibilities to do it.

a small magazine i work for skeptical inquirer, a secular magazine. it's called free inquiry, part of the two good it did publish them. at a north circulation is even in five figures, the book short chains from the shelves. and this was a response to no threats. it was in response to no pressure. it was in response to no dangerous stories when i was a kid we would say it was crying before you were hurt. but i thought then and now with a terrible capitulation that anyone in the united states that they look, first-order business, but see what the fuss is about. what do these pictures really look like that would take the responsibility and nobody said he was for any other reason than fear. why didn't she do it? what were you afraid of?

we were afraid of reprisal. of what value is the enormous money that you make out of freedom of expression? the revenues that have been made in a country that enjoys if it would be defended at the very first challenge. if you can get worse, yes it can. yale university press, which is run by a publisher of mine, called john dominus decides the commission of book i.d. and a scholar on the danish cartoons about its subjects and treatment of the subject including the misrepresentation of mohammed in islamic god. nicely the man who said give me liberty or give me death. and at the last minute decided no administration of any kind. yale university without a shot being fired those were not going to do it.

they would be instigating violence. it's a pity that the university of press that proofreaders don't know. to instigate something is to try and make something -- the public is saying inside me thing you're trying to stir something up. in the past use of the word, and made themselves responsible for any action taken of a criminal nature, criminally violent nature of the publication of the book, which has two benefits. one, it runs away and it deprives the readers as well as offers the book is the right to discuss the matter of freedom and second in advance that excuses the criminal act today because after all it can't be therefore it's ours for showing

the pictures. guitarist for printing the book. it's ours for having someone in our books. and so there's an identity given in advance to the men of violence. therefore, a double insult if you like to the principle of civilization and it goes on. you'll probably remember bragdon and aircraft over the city of detroit. but a few nights later on new year's eve, one of the cartoons is 79-year-old man who is having a sleepover with his granddaughter in copenhagen, one of the sweetest challenges you can ever hope to see as his door broken in with a max by wanted somali gangster he managed to lock themselves in the bathroom.

they both be dead. mr. west said to be interested to get lego buys magazines and have too much trouble to keep on this stuff. it's just up in a couple of weeks ago. it's all very well just to talk about the free speech, but there are limits and you can't have someone of very senior by having his granddaughter and parents attacked on new year's eve. it gets around. you think it couldn't happen here? well, i birdie told you it could as an house with the cartoon case then every word escaped your attention last week. the channel on american television that above all prides itself on seeing the answer to the question is not the sacred, is always no. where there is no cow that cannot be smacked around and abused. comedy central decided that discretion was by far better

value. and of all things to cave in on all the examples we can set to the smart and wise in american years south park is told you can't make a teddy bear joke so a reverend centro gives them without a fight there was one that case who has a website in new yorker posted a picture on his website of what happened to van gogh, the dutch filmmaker who made a film about the oppression of muslim women in the city of amsterdam and two was ritually murdered in the street having shot up his bicycle, he was gutted like a sheep in the roadway. an attached to it an open letter to another good friend of mine

koshy ali his wonderful new book, nomad is about to be published tuning her as a refugee from somalia and friend mutilation and forced marriage and secretary in warfare of the oppression that she was next. and i can't even tell you where anymore because she too, like so many of my friends now, in europe in the united states has to go around with a permanent polygraph. where's the people who put fear of van gogh's picture website and say to that makers of comedy central, this is going to happen to you, sign revolution was on.com. there wasn't any fear at all. they seem to fear is that they are the first amendment protects them to. zero if it doesn't exist. architectures bph, this constitutional roof were so probably is to mean anything, they were going to have to say revolution.com cannot close down

an american cable channel at win by making a little bit of a threat. so the question comes right back to where i initiated it, which is it's no wonder a hypothetical one. where not been asked what would you do when the climate of fear has spread and when even people you thought to be reliable and the war in appointments elsewhere. and this particular meaning i could skip. well, maybe that petition isn't so vitally important and that my time making this one and a new accountant offered great who is a bit of a seedy character to me, a rather suspicious looking tight. maybe we could pick our fights with more care. you can feel the air thickening with excuses and with euphemisms. no, what are you going to do about this? now if what i was just told is true, the ranks of this very called this evening were feared not by having myself as sherman

alexy, forbidding enough as it is. by sizzled nothing in times square, look, you are the children of the revolution. the united states did have to go through a great deal to write -- people in living memory died to register to vote, to be able to hold a public meeting, to be able to serve them in basic rights and we every year we all wish we could've been there and we want, but we can be because there will always be a time, a rendezvous with this question and everyone's going to measure themselves by how they shape up to it, so if i haven't made my point by now, i'm not going to make it m. i n. i think i probably better trespasses the point