writer and a satirical writer, a so i'm much better at poking fun at politicians when they screw up than at telling them what to do.y, i fortunately, i don't have the job. i don't think i'd be that good at it. having said that, i think that one of the lessons that america should perhaps learn from the last decade is that it cannot fix all the problems of the world. it can't do it. that idea of america being the world's policeman and of going out there to, you know, to bring democracy to iraq at the point of a gun, all of that, i think, has been shown to be very problematic approach to the world. and even the enormous power of this country -- greater than that of any other country in thu world -- is not sufficient to solve all the world's problems. some of the time other peopleoth

have to solve their problems foh themselves.pr ..obt we should recognize and value and emphasize and by any means possible support that very large part of the iranian population that dislikes the regime under which it labors. i don't think the military intervention, the one that the sea above the saudis were all begging for, i don't think probably the only thing that would unite the people of iran would be an attack from outside. it would be counterproductive. it turned out to be not a fan of the iranian regime but the military attack would be

counterproductive. >> host: i every watching the jewel and the crown, an adaptation of paul scott. what do you think of the books or the film of the depiction of the end of the british empire in india? >> guest: the film improved on the novels because it cleaned up the time line. told the story chronologically and made it more fun. i wasn't bothered by the fact that as usual it had to do with rape. i don't know why is red indians raping white women is the subject of so much colonial fiction but it was a project that had it hard in the right place. christopher hits and thinks it is a masterpiece. i think less of it but it is a

worthwhile piece. >> host: that e-mail is going to have to be the last. thank you very much. if you would like to see the list of books or get information about the author you can go to booktv.org. >> up next paul kengor, political science professor at grove city college contends that numerous progressives have assisted america's adversaries. he profiles high-ranking government officials that he argues were duped by foreign governments including fdr, jimmy carter and ted kennedy. this is at the heritage foundation in washington. >> good afternoon. thank you for joining us. as director of lectures and seminars is my privilege to welcome everyone to our auditorium. we welcome those who join us on our heritage.org web site as those who will see us on a future occasion on booktv. we ask everyone in house to check that cellphone have been

turned off and for those viewing us online questions or comments can be submitted at any time by e-mail and thus. hosting our discussion is heather sexton this serves as director of our young leaders program. she oversees heritage's outreach efforts to the next generation of political activists, grassroots leaders and public policy professionals. among the programs under her oversight are our internship program outreach activities, student group briefings and young leaders program, virtual think tank. before serving as director of this program she was our in turn coordinator as well as having served as a heritage in turn herself. graduate of the university of michigan, get that clear, university of michigan earned her bachelor's degree in english and political science. join me in welcoming heather

sexton. [applause] >> thank you. i am delighted to introduce paul kengor today, prof. of political science and executive director of the center for vision and values. a grove city think tank center which focuses on advancing freedom with christian scholarship. paul is also a visiting fellow at the hoover institution on war, revolution and peace at stanford university. he is a frequent contributor to msn b.c. c-span and fox news. in addition he has written for the new york times, wall street journal. political science quarterly and many other publications. among the numerous books he has authored a the crusaders:ronald reagan and the fall of communism, god and ronald reagan, god and george w. bush and william p. clark, ronald reagan's right hand. i am excited about paul kengor focusing on his new book "dupes"

progress and how america's adversaries been debated progressives for centuries. we look forward to your discussion of this troubling aspect of history, prominent role of paul kengor. join me in welcoming dr. paul kengor. [applause] >> thank you. everybody here at heritage for coming. i really struggled with how to organize this talk because i turned in a manuscript of 250,000 words and about a thousand pages. -the book god and ronald reagan was 1,000. that gives you an idea just how enormous the task was and how many paul kengor are out there. i am not joking when i say this could be volume i of a multi volume set. i didn't know where to stop.

there were a number of people at different points that's what i would have full chapters on and so much information a fill up an entire box with henry wallace and at some point -- the whole book on this guy. i am going to focus a little bit on an overview on why i did this and why i chose this subject and the goal, the importance of the issue and work upward chronologically through three cases that are very telling and represent different things. somebody involved in education and politicians. specifically at talk about john dewey, frank marshall davis and ted kennedy. there are a lot of other people to talk about as well including actors and all kinds of people in hollywood. humphrey bogart who i talk about

in this book. but also as i know in the appendix i found bogart in the communist party archives in the soviet commissary and look at that very carefully as weather that could be humphrey bogart. that is something we could talk about during the q&a. but first on why i did this, three component. scholarship, partisanship and the issue of redemption. scholarship, i noticed nobody had ever done a book on the role of paul kengor in american history. in fact, did a search on the term and two or three books in the library of congress have a word in the title and yet it is a word that goes back to the founding of the republic itself. you would be surprised that george washington used the word paul kengor in his farewell address. he has been warning about its is

the founding of the republic. adam smith was around at the time of the founding. adam smith in 1776 talks about this. but then somebody it took an ugly upsurge with the founding of the bolshevik revolution in russia and the launching of the bolshevik revolution in russia in october of 1917. after that even more specifically with the founding of the communist international in moscow in march of 1919. then it gets really bad to be a founding of the communist party in america in chicago in september of 1919. as i was looking at one particular cash of documents in particular the archives which are right over here in the library of congress there are hundreds of reels and when i

would go there in the summertime when professors and academics are off not like we work a lot to begin with, but i never once, even one time was told by an archivist you can't have that because someone else has it. hardly anyone is looking at this because that is because most academic stories are on the left and when you see with these files say they are a real indictment of many things to the left. among them, i started going through and the different real and one of the first documents to come to is september 1919 document from the communist party of america and its founding on blue island avenue. i have a bunch of different documents. i could have done our point. i will hold these up and they

are in the book. i will try to describe them but communist party of america, it looks like this, a good reproduction of a 100-year-old document. this is from the executive secretary and very brief, sending it to folks at communist international in moscow. the name organize in the communist party of america extending readings to the communist party of russia, hail to the dictatorship of the proletariat. long live the russians socialist republic. long live the communist international. he turtle you is executive secretary who is buried on the wall of the crime lab. has used cds right off, you learn what the american government learned and what anti-communist said that the american communist party was not just another political party.

they were loyal soviet patriots. they were dedicated to -- their material ended up in the international filed in moscow and we only have them now because they were declassified by the yeltsin government in the 1990s. this is why scholars on the left are ignoring this stuff. with the anti-communist said all along was right. there was a tight bond, this inseparable bond between the american party and the soviet party. another document from chicago from november of 1919 says to the bureau of the communist international as international secretary of the american party i make application for admission of the communist party of america to the bureau of communist international.

filing formal membership application if it is a three page document. when you get to the last page just a few lines and it says here final struggle of the communist proletariat will be waged in the united states. our conquest of power alone assuring world soviet republic. realizing all this the communist party prepares for the struggle. long live the communist international and the world revolution. international secretary -- once again you see that connection. why are paul kengor -- "dupes" so important? "dupes" are people on the progress of left who were not communists themselves but sometimes ran in the same circle and had the same ideas and shared the same sympathies, redistribution of wealth, workers' rights, nationalization, different issues. they were not as far to the left

as communists but over a little bit. i started finding throughout these files letter after letter, document after document where the boys at usa headquarters in new york or chicago or wherever are very closely lay out plans and campaigns to try to deliberately do progressives and liberals. go to this rally. do this. don't let them know you are a communist. if you are charged with being a communist state it is paranoia but later in the 1950s call it mccarthyism. deny you are an actual communist. they go to these rallies and do that. they say we are not communists. and the anti-communist say yes they are and the anti-communist would be the bad guy. they would be the paranoid

anti-communist troglodytes and cave men. so they were critical. the american communist party at its peak membership in the 1930s only got to be 100,000 members. they could never really get any popular support. try to get larger popular support for the cause, they had to a list progressives and liberals. that is why i looked at this. they targeted the progressive liberal left but this gets to an important point i want to make on partisanship, they didn't always have success. i appreciate saying this to a conservative audience. there were a lot of good anti-communist liberals and anti-communist democrats. i have got dozens and dozens of examples. arthur schlesinger wrote a piece for life magazine in 1946 which

at that point was along with time probably the largest circulation in all of america. schlesinger said that communists have succeeded in hiding their true face from american liberals. they are posing a most serious danger to liberals. they are engaged in a massive attack on the moral fabric of the american left. george kennan said the same thing. trying to warn people on the left don't be duped by these guys. don't be taken in. the list of one time "dupes" liberals who changed, i humphrey bogart and eleanor roosevelt, paul douglas, john do we. from hollywood, lucille ball, james cagney, olivia they havilland who played melanie in gone with the wind. edward g. robinson, melvyn douglas and a later

anti-communist crusader and conservative republican, president ronald reagan who admitted in 1946 that he had been duped as well. democrats on the other hand, anti-communist democrats and liberals from the beginning who were never duped and right away recognized the danger the communists opposed. i will surprise you here. the first president who had to deal with this, founding of the american communist party was who? woodrow wilson. woodrow wilson may have been the man of the left but he was an anticommunist and stridently anti bolshevik. he described as the bolsheviks as barbarians, tyrants and terrorists. exact words. harry truman, same thing.

jfk warned us about our atheist faux and godless communist conspiracy. they realized the communists were not their friends and went after the car as they held here. they attacked the lead of nations. they attacked fdr's new deal. the documents and archives on this are stunning. almost as if the boys wanted to report to the boys back in moscow that what they're doing attacking liberal -- in the 1920 presidential election. this is from the united communist party. don't vote. strike. boycott this election. overthrow the capitalist government. established the soviet government. not just another political party. and not just another political party. when you strike the police beat

you, soldiers shoot you. that is what the capitalist government is for. the united communist party is the only party -- boycott this election. don't vote, strike. an official proclamation from the united communist party, stand bar soviet russia. boycott the election. woodrow wilson's attorney general to their portraying as an indian. that is what they thought of progressives. liberals, communists are not your friends, quit defending these guys. the anti-communist or write. here they are in 1933.

protesting the roosevelt administration. putting together a march. demonstrate against hunger, fascism and war. the new deal is a blow against the workers and increase profits for wall street. this was done to get out of the crisis and how the american government is moving headlong towards fascism and war. that is the american communist party. here is another one. made a, same period all over the country in 1933. condemning roosevelt perhaps program of forced labor. for the unemployed. who had the answer? lenin. lenin shows the way. lenin chose the only way to jobs, land and freedom.

that is what they were sending around the. that is the kind of thing they were doing. while they are doing that they are also very contentious lee and carefully and strategically trying to get progressives and liberals to join their cause. i will give you three cases. three example. john dewey. john do we i include among a group by call attempt and progressives. these were people in the 1920s and 30s, american progressives, western progressives, british as well as american who retaken to the soviet union in the 1920s and 30s and carefully manipulated. it is extraordinary to see how they did it. it is shocking. shocking to see how many took the bait as well. because the will draw wilson did ministration would not recognize the bolsheviks because the early british government wouldn't recognize the bolsheviks winston

churchill told lloyd george you might as well legalize sodomy before recognizing that. the progress of some were upset by that. stalin and the boys started drying american western progressives to the soviet union to take a one carefully managed to worse to get them to go back to the united states and write articles about how great the soviet union is and there -- the united states government ought to recognize the soviet government. these were the patinkin progressives. one of them, h. g. wells, after a meeting with stalin in 1934, i have never met a man more candid, fair and honest. everyone trusts him. that is the start of the great terror. 1934. wells had been impressed by lenin who he called a frank, refreshing and amazing little

man. wells's fellow socialist george bernard shaw met with stalin and you will think this is a sarcastic but it is not. is completely serious. george bernard shaw. we cannot afford to give ourselves more o errors when our most enterprising neighbor the soviet union humanely and judiciously liquidates a handful of exploiters and speculators to make the world save for honest men. if you see the actual original note from the meeting which other people recorded that was precisely what stalin had told george bernard shaw. he parroted the exact line. somebody who wasn't taken by this but was a witness was malcolm mugridge who on one of his returns made these commentss about what he saw. talking about these american

progressives. they are one of the wonders of the age. i shall treasurer until i die as a blessed memory the spectacle of traveling with optimism through a famished countryside. wondering happy bad about squalid overcrowded soviet towns. listening with unshakable faith to the fatuous pattern of carefully trained and indoctrinated guys repeating like schoolchildren multiplication table the bogus statistics and mindless slogans. there were earnest advocates of a humane killing of cattle who looked at the massive headquarters with tears of gratitude in their eyes. and proportional representation eagerly represented the dictatorship of the proletariat. there were honest clergy men who walked through soviet anti god museums and turn the page of

atheist literature. ernest pacifists attained red square and bombing planes darken the sky. planning specialists outside tenements muttering if only we had something like this in england. not only was mugare ridge mystified by the naivete he saw among his progressives but so were the soviets. blogridge said the almost unbelievable credulity of these mostly universally educated tourists astonished even soviet officials who were used to handling foreign visitors a. in the book are quote a romanian intelligence chief during the cold war. end one talks about handling western visitors like senator ted kennedy. he worked for the soviet press

agency, among my duties was to get these western progressives. from the moment they got off the plane among my chief tasks was to keep permanently intoxicated the entire time they were in the soviet union. a lot of these guys came to see cote route of the soviet union and it disturbs them and ate at their conscience because they sought here's what i am working for. how do i get out of here and take care of my family? they were depressed at how progressives would come to the country and no matter how outrageous the exaggeration of propaganda they swallowed it again and again. moderidge, fellow passengers provided my first experience of the progressive elite who attached themselves to the soviet regime.

they were resolved to believe anything they were told. resolve to believe anything they were told. one of them was john dewey. one of them was john do we. a founder of american public education and probably the single greatest influence on american public schools to this day. is books have been used for 100 years now to trained generation after generation of public-school teachers. columbia teachers college or departments of education, this guy's books are like sacred scripture in some departments of education. did you know this? i didn't know this until i speak -- never learned about this when i learned about do we. do we's books were being rapidly translated into russian by the bolsheviks as early as 1918.

the bolsheviks took over in october 1917. you immediately get a vicious civil war until 1921. the russian historian says seven million men, women and children died. told -- bolsheviks were preoccupied but they realized how important john dewey's work work to the soviet collective state they were trying to create so they immediately started translating him. 1918 john dewey's schools of tomorrow published in russian. 1919, how we think published in russian. 1920, the school and society published in russian. preeminent classic 1921, democracy and education. democracy and education.

1921. a 62 page pamphlet. that book became a bible of columbia teachers college and the soviet loved it. once he got wind of this, probably felt bad that the architects of this collectivist totalitarian society adored his books and translating them. he was flattered. he was flattered. sort of mutual admiration society started developing between john dewey and the bolshevik hierarchy. in the summer of 1928, john do we along with 25 american educator from various universities made a trip to the soviet union where they were given the full potential and village treatment. all factories, riding around in lincoln limousines, caviar, everything you can imagine.

he realized the possibility that they were going to try to manipulate him. he said the warning that appears humorous in retrospect so often given by kindly friends that i would be fooled by being taken to show places, that will not possibly happen so when he came back he rota 6 parts series for the new republic. the political bobble of the american left for a long time published from november 14th to, 1928 through december 19th, 1928. i have a long chapter in the book so i won't read the quotes but it is astonishing to read these articles. it is really astonishing. my mind was in a whirl. readjustment was difficult. i was somewhat dazed.

the liberation of the people that are saw. the outstanding fact that russia is a revolution involved in a release of cumin powers in such an unprecedented scale that it is of incalculable significance not only for this country but the whole world. and one really painful article, he writes about how impressed he was with the restoration of russian churches that was taking place under lenin and stalin. they were blowing them up. in a later biography, the biographer is sympathetic, inserts a gentle foot those, apparently he didn't know about the demolishing of russian for churches. how? how did -- he didn't know that? they were blowing them up. 657 churches in moscow, 46 left in the 1970s. how could he not know that?

this one, i am not making it up. the bolsheviks, how they are doing things. in spite of secret police, inquisition, deportation, business men, industrials and farmers aside from exercising party opponents, including virgin elements of the party, life goes on with regularity, safety and decorum aside for other things. the external routine of life is more settled and secure in russia than probably any other country in europe. this isn't what i am being told he says, it is what i am seeing. the bolshevik revolution he pronounced was a great success. i think the schools are a dialectic factor in the evolution of russian communism. his very last article for the new republic he wrote this.

political recognition of russia on the part of the united states is at least a necessary antecedent step in bringing the kind of relations needed for those countries and the world. i went to russia with no conviction on that subject but now here i am telling you i think our government should recognize bolshevik russia which is precisely, precisely the number one priority of the bolsheviks bringing these progressives, that they would call for recognition. i will give you a couple other examples here. frank marshall davis to personal the example of frank marshall davis. i spent four years on this one. i won't take you through the entire four year sojourn i promise you. frank marshall davis is relevant because he was -- choosing my words carefully, a mentor to the current president of the united

states, barack obama. that was in 1970. in hawaii. i first started reading about frank marshall davis and obama in 2007/2008. i heard conservatives on talk radio and bloggers elsewhere, saying he was a communist party member. he influenced obama and meanwhile i am hearing this stuff and have spread all over my desk all these committee reports. senate judiciary committee run by democrats, house committee on internal security and american activities, almost always -- these people ran these committees were democrats. chris dodd's father. francis walter, jack kennedy was an anticommunist on some of these committees. so i hear this and i am thinking

what does he really believed? and how close was he to obama? august 2nd, 2008. davis was a constant figure in obama's early life. he was an important influence to obama to look to as a father, a mentor, for advice on living. obama in dreams from my father. i was intrigued by old frank with his books and was the breath and the hand of harder and knowledge behind the hooded are. he gave me advice on college, women, life. all these examples. he started looking in different documents and among the things that i found, frank marshall davis was called to testify before the senate in 1956 for communist association. he pleaded the fifth amendment. these are in the book.

i gave back work copies of 2564257. next year in 1967, a senate report, actually listed frank marshall davis as an identified member of communist party usa. congress didn't just go and say somebody was a member of the communist party. they would say things like this person has association with communist front groups. they said he was a member of the communist party. so i started looking at different biographers. john edgar did well is a preeminent biographer. most of these guys are on the left. the university of massachusetts professor harvard ph.d. davis was almost certainly a party member. i read john edgar to dwell's book. in that book, he says davis actually joined the communist

party and produces a letter he dates around 1943 where davis says he joined the communist party. finally, after looking at those different things, not long before the book went to press i found, got davis's actual fbi file which was declassified through a request by a fellow researcher. 600 pages long. as soon as you start reading frank marshall davis's file you can see very clearly it takes maybe half an hour of reading to see that the guy was a communist. very clear. in the appendix of the book i give ten to 12 pages of fbi file including on page 507, this page, which among other information actually lists frank marshall davis's communist party card number.

47544. that is hard evidence. i recently read some of the stuff the keating howard then of being a a party member. i read the fbi file. there aren't things like communist party numbers in the file. when you find a file that has numbers you really have something. those numbers are fully consistent with other people who joined the party at the time including hollywood 10 members who you are probably being told where all innocent lambs, liberals and progressives practicing civil liberties dragged before joe mccarthy. joe mccarthy was a senator. was on the house committee. october 1947, called to washington d.c. to testified john howard lawson was one of the hollywood 10.

communist party member -- albert schmaltz, 47196. i got some of -- all of frank marshall davis's weekly columns that he wrote for the honolulu record from 1949 to 1950 which was the communist party usa in hawaii. i got them through the help of two college students. one found them on line and the other is actually in hawaii and i am amazed is here today. i will keep it secret. she went into a library in the university of hawaii and got the columns on hard copy. what you see here in reading davis's columns was just how anti-american the communist party was in the united states. who was president of the united states after world war ii?

harry truman. what party? democrat. he was the enemy. they mercilessly savaged harry truman. davis just took him apart. davis turned harry truman into a demon in these articles. colonialist, imperialists, fascist, racist, monsters, george marshall, you name it. february 9th, 1950. here davis really toed the communist party line of portraying him as the butcher of hiroshima. harry truman dropped the bomb on japan august 6, 1945, to spare a land invasion of japan. the land invasion would have been joined not by dye american troops or british troops but russian troops. stalin supported them. once the war was over, truth

doesn't matter. the only truth that matter is -- there is no truth. the only morality is that which for this class interests. after the war truman who had done what we wanted is now of the butcher of hiroshima. that becomes the moscow wind everywhere. here is davis's column. action will pictures on page 256-257. this one from february 9th, 1950. when we dropped the atom bomb on hiroshima, we believed the world was ours. having defeated the axis powers on the battlefront we were ready to show the russians who was the boss of the world. harry truman's goal was to rule russia. in addition to that, truman and

the democrats in particular of wanting to turn west germany back to the communists. wanting to turn west germany back to the nazis. the marshall plan was a sham, a policy to try to 3 in slave the colonial peoples around the world. the black and yellow people around the world. that was the goal of the marshall plan. not to bailout western europe but real enslave the world. if you ever studied this period you know the only people making that argument anywhere in the world are stalin and molotov. davis, the big industrialists who financed hitler were handed back factories and almost as strong as they ever were. america's policy is a sham. one of the big joke of the twentieth century.

what kind of west germany is america trying to help back to its feet? it is the germany of the master race. the fascists we sought to exterminated world war ii as the greatest threat to mankind are our partners. what do you say we kiss and make up? as i was reading that column at the time, senator obama was still senator and made an eloquent speech about how americans end germans stood together in those days of the berlin blockade and the marshall plan to resist the soviet union. not all americans did. frank marshall davis was on the other side of that. another piece that continues to hunt me. january 26, 1950, column by davis called free enterprise

worse socialism. in this piece davis is seen as not harry truman or the democrats, but general motors. gm. davis is furious that this gigantic corporation called gm made a profit of $600 million. he is trying to frame gm as an aggressive monopoly. davis concludes in the face of still rising unemployment in a mounting depression the time draws near when we will have to decide to oust the monopolies and restore a system of competing free enterprise or let the government own and operate our major industries. if davis could have, if he could have he would have nationalized gm. no question. how relevant is this today with president obama? we can talk about that in the q&a. i started looking at davis and

reading these columns. i wind not exactly in the order of my discovery of these things. i read the column is for stand then started finding fbi files and other things. at first i thought that davis -- i was dealing with possibly progressive liberal who was duped by communists and then i realized this was a communist who do progressives and liberals. i realize i had to have this character in the book. how exactly relevant is it today in what is going on in washington? we could talk about that and debate that. i don't go into that. but i covered davis. one last example and i will wrap up and take your questions. senator ted kennedy, the late senator ted kennedy who is hard to get a handle on and i have been asked if i consider kennedy a do or something else

altogether. i found things from kennedy on the vietnam war in the 1916s that he said about our troops almost identical to things he said about the troops in 2003/2004/2005 in the middle east. it was startling. i didn't realize all the things kennedy had said about troops in vietnam in the 1960s. the major revelation that i had on kennedy which i know a lot of you are familiar with is a 1983 document in the central committee archives in the soviet union and my understanding is the archives have been sealed. so you can't go in now and get that document but that is okay. i have got it. it is in the book. i am excited about that. here is the actual document which is in the appendix. it is five pages in russian.

if any of you read russian -- i have been told the translation that is in the book is actually pretty kind to the kennedys. kind of charitable. if you read it in russian it is worse. both in and russian -- here is in english also and in the back of the book, the very top of page one translated into english is listed. here is what the document says. does this not grab your right away? special importance to people still committee on state security of the u.s.s.r. may 14th, 1983, this subject down to feed your curiosity, regarding senator kennedy's request to the general secretary of the communist party, opening

line, on 9/10, may of this year, 83, president reagan, fbi speech in march, evil empire speech, reelection campaign coming up in 1984. senator edward kennedy's close friend and trusted confidante and they know who this was was in moscow. the senator charged and to convey the following message through confidential contacts to the general secretary of the central committee of the communist party. senator kennedy like other rational people is very troubled by the current state of soviet-american relations. events are developing such as this relationship coupled with the state of global affairs that makes the situation even more dangerous. the main reason for this is reagan's belligerence.

and his firm commitment to deploy new american middle range nuclear weapons within western europe. he goes through in the document and lists different reasons why exactly reagan is gaining in popularity. this is fascinating. you have an admission from the soviet head of the kgb who is really interpreting this so an admission from him as well that reagan economics is working in a private letter. the economy is doing terrific, reagan is popular. what are we going to do? what are we going to do about this? they go through and it says given this, given the current state of affairs, reagan's reelection coming up, what can we do? what can we do to stop this? to reverse reagan's belligerent and dangerous defense policy? they get to the core of the

arthur. kennedy proposes for following. they give three different steps here but basically what kennedy believes according to the document that soviets wanted peace and increasing cold war tensions was awful fall of reagan and the soviets needed help and better communicating their peaceful intentions to the american me and americans generally because as this letter says reagan was good at propaganda. you need to figure out a way to get around his smokescreen of propaganda. how do you better communicate directly to the american people? kennedy says this letter says kennedy is very impressed, very impressed with and drop off. not impressed with reagan. the argue, canada will go to moscow and meet with soviet

leadership. even talked about bringing a liberal republican with him. they talked to them. helped arrange for soviet media tour in the united states. basically a kind of public relations for in the united states. a kind of a pr campaign to help communicate soviet peace contention. so will high-level military and political officials come to the united states, talk directly to the american media. sit down interviews and even mention by name walter cronkite and barbara walters as two people who could do interviews. they could directly communicate to the american people. what happened with all of that? then it ends up in 1984, talks

about the election campaign coming up and there is a discussion about senator kennedy's presidential prospect in the 1984 race. it finishes up with that. what ever became of this? this is may of 1983. he eventually got sick at the end of the year, died in february 1984. they talked about this happening in september of 1983. anybody remember your chronology of cold war history? what happened over did the alaska territory in september 1983? the soviets shot down a korean airliner. initially denied doing it. so they're kind of an end to this apparently. not very impressive but it was all about -- for people listening to are watching on c-span who are democrats who are a worry about this and don't

want to believe it because they like kennedy and it like reagan, good news for you. kennedy did a very similar thing to jimmy carter in march of 1980. we know this, came into the united states with a defector in 1992. isn't interesting there recently president carter when he was promoting his diaries talked about how he believed senator kennedy tried to undermine him on health care because of kennedy was challenging carter for the democratic primary in 1980. he didn't mention anything about this. on march 5th, 1980, kennedy again, the same kind tax, the same liaison in moscow had a message delivered to the soviet leadership to leonid brezhnev in

this case. as the archive characterized this here is what kennedy was arguing. the carter administration is trying to distort the peace-loving ideas behind leonid brezhnev's proposal. the atmosphere of tension and hostility is being fuelled by carter. the carter white house is sheeting public opinion with nonsense about the soviet military threat and soviet ambitions for military expansion in the persian gulf. what is so john dropping about this is according to this, kennedy is concerned about rising tensions and blaming it not on the soviets but again on the president ahead wind house. who is jimmy carter? we have carter on the cover of the book kissing the brezhnev. carter was anything but hard on the soviets.

he was very accommodating. june 1979, carter kisses leonid brezhnev at the indiana summit and six months later talk about the trade with a kiss carter is in the white house celebrating christmas and get news the red army just invaded afghanistan. and just three months after the soviets invade afghanistan, kennedy is concerned about rising cold war intentions which are the fault of carter? wow! put it in context. was going on march 5th, 1980? democratic presidential primaries where jimmy carter was being challenged by senator ted kennedy. what happened in 1980 also happened to some extent in 1983 with ronald reagan.

i could give other examples of this but i am watching the clock and should probably stop and i want to take your questions. that was a look at frank marshall davis and ted kennedy and a lot of other people with covers as well but i will stop and take your questions. [applause] >> what do you think of growing support the communist party has been giving the democrats and people's weekly world and so forth? in 2003 they had movedon.org fin on there website. more recently, constantly raving about president obama's policies? >> it is a remarkable thing. one nation rally held not long

ago in d.c. i was shocked to see when you goes to the web site at lifted different endorsing ropes communist party usa was right in the open as one of the endorsements. what is so interesting to me about that, having written a book on how the communist duped progressives for 100 years going back to 1910 is in the past in those rallies, the liberals would want the communists -- if they would avoid us. the only way to get communist party usa was secretly, covertly. in this case it was arms wide open, come on in. no problem. one of the most troubling example wind given the book, one that i had to look at again and again and i still look at the documents and can't believe it

was april 1941 group called the american peace mobilization. this group was a communist front group and people who are listening who hate the house on american and activities committee, this was one of the most seditious, observes -- subversive, different groups in the the state. they accommodative hitler. the house committee did far more good things that you are willing to acknowledge. the american peace mobilization, their job was to toe the soviet line, represent moscow's position and bring progressives to the rally. they were created in august 1939. hitler and stalin signed a pact, nonaggression pact to not fight each other. because of that the american communist movement in 1940-1941

protested britain. eight in britain. basically accommodative hitler because hitler was an alliance with stalin and the american peace mobilization took that position. we have the actual documents ordering the creation of this group in chicago in fall of 1940. they went and protested outside the white house, fdr is a fascist and trying to start another war. the soviets -- don't send aid to britain and britain is dying because of the blitzkrieg. that is the position they took. they picketed outside the white house. they get all kinds of news. one of the leaders is sealed. ..