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so i look at these and they helped me and once i'm working on the story though i try to forget all of that stuff. i would be paralyzed if i was thinking too much of truman capote. >> there are writers who inspire you. malcolm, do you have writers who inspire you? d. the like i said,. >> other than agatha christie -- agatha christie. >> like i said, i think david's stuff, it didn't reading it ever since he started with "the new yorker" and have been very influenced, thinking i should maybe leave my apartment. [laughter] and also -- has had a huge impact on my writing because the thing about adam, i regard adam as the absolute quintessential practitioner of "the new yorker" story because those stories he does, and maybe you have to be a
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writer to understand this, the degree of difficulty is so high so it is not like he is often taking something which is, there is nothing there. i mean, it is just kind of, it is just some sort of prosaic thing and he has turned it into gold. to do that, i am just in on that and as soon as i read one paragraph or time sderot to figure out, how did he do that? there is an incredible level of that idea, that difficult idea is something that was the missing component in critical analysis. critics look fix something and they pass a judgment and they will say is this good or is this bad backs that is only the first questions you have to ask. the second question you have to ask was how hard was it lacks legs if you are telling an extraordinary story of something that is incredibly ordinary you can't -- and i feel like without him, he has sort of opened the
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possibilities as a writer that you can, you can take just by virtue of your own ingenuity. i don't have his ingenuity or writing ability but he allows me to believe it is possible to do extraordinary things with ordinary material and that has been incredibly powerful lesson to me as a writer. >> there are stories i find, and when i find them i could never imitate them. i just kind of know that. i still have never figured out quite how he constructs a story that they maintain their power because they are non-chronological. is kind of what you are saying, how he managed to put all these facts in this very idiosyncratic order the comes together with such power and i look at them and read them periodically and i'm hoping at some point i will find it buried secret. that is the key. that is exactly what he did but i can't deconstruct them as a writer.
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there are to a lot of writers that can deconstruct what they did and there were some writers write just kind of tip my hat. >> you can really torture yourself trying to learn. i was reading some aj brinkley and had that same thing, was just struck dumb. he was cruising around paris and their these turns of phrase that are just, i mean, you just -- but i could never write that. >> and in fact in a weird way part of the thing is what motivates me in finding the stories i find is the belief that if i can find a great story, if i can find the gold, then i can tell you a great story so part of my motivation of getting these things i just want to get the gold because it is a lot easier if i can find the gold in the treasure and open it up. >> it might -- it might be quite
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an obsession with you. you don't really like leaving your apartment at all. >> all you do is leave your apartment. [laughter] >> it really is true though. somebody asked me the other day -- other than my report. [laughter] [inaudible] >> i would have had very boring existence if it weren't for these reporting chases. >> i am curious to both of you, what is your confidence in the future of the publishing industry, the magazine industry to support the kind of long stories you are talking about, that in the 60 years between writing it and reporting that you do going around the world
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with "the new yorker" and other magazines. what's is the future hold for that kind of reporting? you are talking about that goes back to world war ii and before. >> i, you know, am very optimistic. because all that has gone away, all that is appeared to go away is the kind of, is that viability of the existing business model for supporting a certain journey. that is all that is gone away. the need for that journalism hasn't gone away it also when i was with adam, if you read for example adams story revenge of the mattress lloyd's which i think is one of the most incredible magazine stories i have ever read, at the end of that story you cried. the need of a human being to be moved by something that they read is a constant.
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we needed to be moved by literary experience a thousand years ago and we will need to be moved a thousand years from now. so so long as all we are doing is serving very fundamental human needs, they need to being gauged by a story is fundamental. it is never going away so you can have a world. sometimes you think well we are going to have a world system tweaks and blog entries and 300 word web site entries but you can't have that, because none of those satisfy the need to be moved or they need to being gauged in a story or the need to be -- so we will just find a new model to support. that's all. people are assiduously working on this problem right now and they will solve it. when they saw that we will all be fine. [laughter] >> i finally figured out the essential difference between malcolm and me. i am a fundamental pessimist and i'm an optimist. i actually agree with him on
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this notion which i think in many ways both what we do and what our stories are about, many of what my stories are about, our people -- i am piecing together their narratives that they are piecing together their narratives in trying to tell stories and trying to make sense of their lives and arrange the facts in a particular order that has a certain logic and meaning and emotional meaning whether it be the firemen from 9/11 who suffered amnesia and is the only survivor from his group that went down. they all perished and he is trying to make sense about what happened him but also this larger calamity. i too think that is something that is wired into our dna and it goes back whether you look at why the bible is powerful, if you look at any kind of forms of literature, and i don't think it is going to go away. i do worry about the economics of it that is why he is a smart guy and hopefully he will come up with a business plan. because there is a cost to this
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stuff, there really is. i mean the willingham story, you know i spent six months at least on that story. whether trying to get government records, tracking down a jailhouse informant who didn't have an address or a phone and i could not have done that without "the new yorker"'s backing and financing. so, that does concern me because right now we are in this moment of chaos. but i do think the desired indeed does go away so hopefully the paradigm that can support this will come into play. in a moment of crisis. spew what is so haunting about what you are saying is in the lost city of z you finally get to the mel at the amazon or are talking to people who have studied this, a lot of people whether erroneously are not have believed that the amazon was so inhospitable to human life that
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there was no civilization which is the need for storytelling that you are talking about, about the art that you describe is a human need are going to come to that city and then leave at the end with an open question about whether they were capable because it seems even there there was a kind of a push toward a placid and building something. >> without question, without question and just a few weeks ago, i mean it it has just been astonishing to me they just discover these enormous geometric earthworms in the middle of the amazon which spread out over nearly 200 kilometers connected by roads and they -- like they tried to edge the geometric equation in the earth spread out over this huge area. we don't even know what the purpose of these were but they get to this question of people were trying to find purpose, to make sense of probably some religious purpose.
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people trying to impose some order and some meaning on chaos. some people do better and in some of malcolm stories he talked about the danger of this proceeding and they willingham case is a case of misinterpreting data. >> i think that is about all we have time for because we have to do the book signing and people will line up so thank you david and thank you malcolm. [applause] >> malcolm gladwell worked at the "washington post" from 1987 to 1996 as a science writer and later as new york city bureau chief. he is currently a staff writer for "the new yorker." david grann is the author of the lost city of z., tale of deadly obsession in the amazon. he is also a staff writer for "the new yorker." for more information visit new
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yorker.com. next, meghan mccain daughter of former presidential -- this discussion took place at the 2010 miami book fair international. it is about 45 minutes. >> hi everybody.d thank you so much for coming out this afternoon to watch me and gio talk about my book. >> we are going to have a lot of fun here with this but macon, let's talk about your florida members, your favorite florida memories and now you are back in miami. tell me what you remember? >> i love florida. i love being in miami biltmoore. if you read my book, i almost
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if you have read my book it is also a place i took a lot of xanax and almost overdosed and im weather with good food. >> i don't know if you have seen the cover, but a lot of people think this is a photo shopped photo. it is not. this is 5 real elephant. >> yeah, that's a real photo shoot. this elephant is famous and it's been in music videos, and on the cover of vanity. her name was -- i forgot her name now, ty, but it took all day. >> you know, when you first open the book, the first thing you talk about is freedom. it's a big thing for you. what does freedom mean to you? why is it the first thing you talk about here? >> i know how many of you read the book, but the first line in is it freedom is addictive, and the book was, for me, a coming of age story, and i grew up
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reading primary colors and fear of loathing on the campaign trail, and i was inspired by those books, and i just wanted to write my sort of coming of age story. i was 22 when i joined my father's campaign and 24 when it ended which is a pinnacle time for any young person. it was such a labor of love, and anna, a good friend here from the campaign, and it was just such a labor of love, and people that have responded to it seem to be people like me that feel disenchapterred by the political -- disenchanted by the political schedule in general. it's refreshing to see 20-somethings that relate to this and coming of age stories. i'm happy anybody is reading it honestly. >> you talk about feeling like an outcast in this campaign. why? >> well, i was thrown off, so
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that's a pretty good message by anyone that i wasn't liked. during the primary process, i had a really amazing time and that's when i first started blogging for my father, and then after he became the nominee and john payton -- search andsarah palin was with him and i was addressed for not talking the right way, and i came through self-loathing and what's wrong with me and why do i talk and act like this. after the election, i realized that there's nothing wrong with me. there's nothing wrong with anybody else, and all these pundits and experts seem to think that young people need to change and be a mold to be in a political process will be the end of any young person being involved in politics, especially republican politics. me for personally, that was inspiring.
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it took time and reflection to write about it. >> you mentioned sarah palin, and you are trying to see who is going to be the running mate. you're going through the folks who are possible contenders. when you found out it was sai rafters, what did you think? >> i started country -- crying. [laughter] it's not a prelude in the book, but the first real chapter, i didn't know who she was like everybody else, and i started googling, and there was flashes on the news and saying her name wrong, and there's no way to describe it. i had no idea who she was and on the bus to the event meeting her, i was told she had a bunch of children, and that i was going to have to figure it out and help them and i'm good at rolling with it, and then i did, and it unfolded is the way it
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unfolded for everybody else. i didn't have inside information and found out an hour and a half before i went on stage. i cried because i didn't know who she is. i had never met her or known anything about her. at the time there was little to find out about her on the internet. there was no information which i thought she was bad. >> one of the things you decided to start through this whole thing was that blog, the mccain blog. tell me about that. i wanted to, but i'm not a pundit, or i wasn't at the time, eni had little -- and i had little experience and i went to columbia which is a liberal college, and that was the red scarlett for me because
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i went there. it ended up being my baby, this blog, and it was very scfl with young people, and it was liberating and i may joke about the experience, but it was the most amazing experience of my life which is why i was inspired to write about it. >> you talk a lot about mistakes. what is a mistake that you learned from the most? >> i talk about in the book also i made too many things about me. it wasn't about me, and that's age and reflection. i was still young when i joined. i don't think it's about the person, but the idea, the party, the politician, getting over the facts that people didn't like me, like, it wasn't about me. if i could go back in time, i would do things different and be less bratty to the secret service. >> you talk a lot about atracking young voters.
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that's something important to you. how did you do that? i know the mccain blog was one way, but what else? >> they sent me to campaign at colleges, but i was more effective post election because i felt like i no longer had to answer to people anymore or answer to my father's staff or advisers, and the great ironny now is a lot of these people can't get job of their owns, and i have no problem working right now, and i think it's very ironic. i don't think people who claim to be experts necessarily are. i did not read going rogue, but i know she felt she was molded and not allowed to be herself. i think women in politics are asked to be put in a mold and small box to fit in which is why i think sarah had a hard time as well. >> what are some secrets about the campaign trail?
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>> secrets? well, there's lots of secrets. i don't know. i put a lot of it in the book. >> you talk about drunkenness with some reporters and things like that. >> yeah, i think the nature of the campaign is what people would be surprised at. you get on a bus every day and journalists are with you and you say at the same hotels and there's a reason why people get married post elections generalist and staffers and a lot of hankie panky on the plane, but not with me though, but it's like being on tour with a band. i have a friend who is a musician was touring at the same time with his album. the trips merit each other. it's more fun than people give it credit for. i creed "game -- i read game change, and the book missed the fun aspects of it. you're going on tour to trining to change -- try to change the world, and i thought mark made it depressing
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and sad and even for the obama campaign which i know they had a good time as well. i have pictures of me and a few journalists doing care i don't care key in iowa. >> one of your recent articles was about you being, yes, i am a true republican. >> yes. >> tell me a little bit about that because obviously there's some issues you don't agree with with the republican party. >> i was challenged to take a purity test which you -- anyone can do it online to see if you are a republican, and i passed which a lot of people were mad about that i passed, but i think we live in a weird time where i know that i get harassed on a daily basis for not being pure enough and people are ask why i don't become a democrat, but i believe in the
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ideas of the republican party, but i believe in gay marriage. there's a sex tape and did a lot of allegedly scandalous thing, but people come to her defense because she's against gay marriage, but me because i'm for it and go to google if you want to see a bunch of stuff written about me, but i think it's sad you are harassed now if you exit the mold a little bit. >> do you think there's something wrong with the republican party today? >> i worry about the tea party influence. i worry that it's too extreme. i understand why tea partyers are angry and i understand why and i myself am frustrated, but i don't think it's organized well and there's no cohesive message, and without that, you can't win. with my father's campaign, there wasn't one message to hope and change. i think once we get that and
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instead of saying we hate obama and the spending, that's not a message. there needs to be an inspare ration until message of some kind, so yes, i do worry. >> your very hon -- you're very honest. what is the message you want people to get from the book, the one most important message? >> when i was growing up and on my father's campaign, i went through self-loathing and depression and i thought something was wrong with me. i thought i did not fit in. i can't have a career in politics or in republican politics, and again, i came to a point where my readers were at home saying i feel the exact same way. i'm a young woman. i don't completely tell the party line, but i want to be involved. i tell people out there, especially young people, you're not alone out there. i feel the exact same way. my father is a famous politician, and i've been in politics however long you want to go back.
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my mother was pregnant with me at the 84 convention. you're not alone. i think we can come together and work together, the older and younger generation in the republican party. i'm still a believer and will fight the fight until i die. i love it. it's what i do. that's my message. >> all right. i guess a lot of you have some questions, so why don't we start getting questions from the audience for meghan. >> anything you want. i'll answer almost anything. >> well, i enjoy the part about the politics, but what about the dirty sexy side? [laughter] >> you know, people are sort of like, i was asked this question or "good morning, america" i was sell bat because i'm not attracted to politics --
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men in politics. it was more about the journalists sleeping about each other and the staffers and sex and politics go hand in hand like anything else. >> why the title? >> i loved -- actually i was at a party with some of my girlfriends explaning the experience. it was fun and crazy and fun and dirty and sexy. my friend was drunk and said i liked the dirty and sexy. that's where it came from. >> is that really the most interesting thing going on? we're hear for you meghan. real world miami? i'm a child of pop culture honey, i recognize you. >> i'm trying to be nice. i'm a democrat here. >> you should be happy i recognized you. you look fantastic.
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>> so do you. [laughter] >> one of your cast members is now a congressman. sorry. >> are you going to let -- [laughter] >> sorry, go ahead. sorry. >> my question, i'm curious, and if you could please just talk a little bit about when you were asked to leave mccain's campaign? >> sure. >> how you reck fied the relationship with him as a politician and a father. >> this is something i still deal with today, dan, from real world miami. [laughter] i was thrown off and i went to an image consul at that particular time in l.a. -- consultant who helped me and i was still swearing a lot and it was a high tense situation, and i wasn't -- i say my job was to stand still and look pretty. that's it. i didn't talk to my father about it because he was running for president.
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i talked to my mother about it and the choice was go home or campaign by yourself. i didn't want to go home, so i campaigned with my friends and ended up having the most amazing time of the entire campaign because it gave me a tour bus by myself and we toured and went into towns and like want to see a presidential campaign bus, come on. it was really fun. it ended up being like we made our own fun. it became sort of a weird story, rumors that went on and rumors about why i was thrown off. some of them were that they wanted to highlight bristol being the pro-life daughter, and i was the opposite of that. i don't have anger about it now because it was my experience, but people bring it up about don't ask don't tell now with me and my father personally and politically. i grew up in a very open
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household, always talking and open dialogue. my parents know the daughter they raised, and i say, if you didn't want me to be like this, you shouldn't have sent me to the things like debate camp if you didn't want me this way. they love me and support me. i think my father wishes sometimes i was a teacher, but he still loves me, and i have to separate the political and perm, otherwise i won't have a relationship with my parents. it's that simple. i have to separate. i'm going home for thanksgiving tomorrow and i'm not going to be talking about don't ask don't tell. it's a choice i have to make that i can fight with my parents or have a relationship with them and do my own thing. >> did you ever say anything when you were -- did you have a conversation about that? >> you know, he thought that i was being a problem as well. it was more that -- i think looking back now, i think you have to play the game right. i think you sort of have to, you
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know, not kiss but, but i my blog, and i'm important and whatever, but he said, you know, all the advisers have agreed that you're becoming a problem. you have to leave. i did, and i was never really invited back, so it's part of my story so -- i didn't mean to embarrass you, i just grew up watching tv, so -- yes, sir? >> hi, i'd like to know what you think about your change on father's viewpoint on immigration policy. >> what? his immigration policy. >> it just changed to drastically. >> we are talking about arizona's infamous and that tore yows -- i'm sorry? he was asking about my father's immigration policy that got a
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lot of publicity this summer. i was against it. i think it was a very poorly written bill. i think you can't pull people over for being his panic. i group up in arizona, a border state and hispanic culture is a large part of arizona, and it was overblown by the media. i think it's very poorly written. i don't think it's going to go through, and i think, you know, i come from a family of imgrants only two generations ago and immigration is a large participant of being an american. i worry at the time when we make calls on who comes to the country. i love this country. being an american is still as ronald reagan a shining beacon on a hill for people from other countries. i was against it and it's unfortunate it got the negative publicity that it did because i have friends who are small business owners in arizona who took major economic hits because of it.
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>> thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> hello. >> hi. >> i'm old enough to remember your father as a pow and coming back to the states and running for u.s. senate, and i've always thought those would be his legacies, and now i fear that sai rafters palin -- sarah palin will be his legacy. what are your thoughts? li no matter where i go in my .. sarah palin. people are curious. her reality show is incredibly popular and her daughter is on dancing with the stars. they have safe rated the media. this is everyone wanting her. there's a need people need to feel. i say she's a drug that the
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media needs a hit from. this is not my doing. i'm not particularly interested anymore. whether or not she's my father's legacy, we need to be concerned about america's legacy. i think she is running for president right now. i'm personally about belief. i've been in politics long enough to know she's running. america needs to decide and republicans need to decide where we are going from here. i think my father is a rock star, and i think god forbid the day he's no longer here, i think his legacy will stand on his own. [applause] >> thanks for coming. you have been delightful. it's terrific. what books and magazines do you read? it's a trick question. [laughter] >> you know, it's amazing i get asked this question all the time. it's like somehow i would not know the answer to that or something. people just ask women this questionment first of all, i read blogs every morning.
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plight koa or -- "politico" or perez hilton sometimes. i read usa today,ed new yorker, people and us weekly. i can't deny that. i read everything. i read conservative blogs, some liberal blogs, if you consider the huffington post a liberal blog, but i like to get it all in. >> just one more comment. i think you're terrific. you go on shows that don't agree with you. >> thank you. you know, i take a lot of heat for going on especially rachel madow. and people go crazy that i'm going on her show and people can't seem to handle it, and i
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think if we only go on fox as republicans, if this is -- i worry more so, and i have a column coming out about this is we live in society where republicans only go on fox. think about palin running for president only just doing interviews on fox. this can in fact happen. all she has to do is twitter and facebook her message and do an interview. i worry about this. i worry about this time. i worry about what's happening. for me, i love going on shows on fox and msnbc, i like some shows on cnn. you good to me, i'm good to you. you give me a chance to speak, you're cool. you harass me, i'll never go on your show again. >> thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> great job. two-part question. can you briefly define the principles and values that make you a republican and the
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principles and values that would not make you republican or even a democrat? >> gay marriage is a big one that makes me a democrat even though i don't know what democrats are doing for the gay marriage or gay rights movement at all right now. until i see president obama seeing more moves, it's hip critical to say democrats are making a gray rights movement. i'm pro-life. i think the government should stay out of our lives as much as possible. those are the three main principles, and i'm pro-life, progay marriage republican. people don't reconcile that with who i am, but it's what i believe. i grew up christian, and it's what i continue to believe. people have a really hard time with the fact that i'm also probirth control and against abstinence and social issues come into play and strong national defense, and i continue to support the wars in
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afghanistan and iraq. i think that's the problem where people lose me when people very strict conservative republicans, but i am who i am, and i meet a lot of people with the same beliefs, and i'd rather be out and honest with what i believe rather than go on tv and fake it. .. if this question strikes a little too close to home and you prefer not to answer it, that's fine with me. i heard you say you think of your father as a rock star.
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there was a time when i thought if i ever did vote democrat i would vote for john mccain -- >> then he'd probably love me. >> at this point i have watched him change where he stands on most issues of importance, and i wonder how you personally feel watching your father do this. actually, to me it would seem almost like a matter of walkingt away from his principles with os the expediency of politics.s. and i wonder how you feel about that.ike y >> it sounds like you're never a fan fan, ma'am. sounds like you were never a fan. i don't think my father has walked away from his principals. i think the media changed. i think we live in different
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times when he ran 2000. i don't have a hard time reconciling who my father is. he doesn't have a problem recognizing who i am. he's my father. i don't go home and talk about politics like him. someone going on in the news, i've written a column, then it will come up. normally it's stop swearing on tv, meghan. i can't live like that, hating my father, being angry at some of the political decisions they made. the citizens of arizona just re-elected him to the senate. obviously he's doing something popular. at the end of the day, my father, senator graham and senator lieberman inspire me. if my father let me come on both of his campaigns when i was 14. i don't have a hard time
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reconciling. if you've lost faith, i'm sorry you feel that way. i haven't. >> was it hard to tell your father i don't agree with you, was that hard? >> no, i haven't agreed with him since i was like 10. they don't like me talking about sex. that seems to be the big -- either of my parents like that. but i starting speaking at colleges years ago. i think it's natural for college students to ask. there's very little i won't talk about. meghan, please, please, we raised you christian. yes? >> as a young political person, what is your strategy for helping to prevent that sarah palin does not become our next president? >> um, well, again complicated question. i keep says that for the moment if i had to choose someone the
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second i would be on team romney. not like he's without his complicationing and skeletons of the past. we need, my person opinion, i think the republican party needs someone that can go up against him in the election. sarah palin is one of the most polarizing people, not just in the country, but in the world. i go to school, sometimes people worship at the alter sarah palin. how can you doubt anything she says? she's made it clear she doesn't like me. she doesn't like my book. i worry more so mediawise. i think the media can make this woman president. until people stop reporting on every tweet, facebook update, you can't turn on the news entertainment wise or on the news today without seeing something. tlc, "dancing with the stars," i'm not interested. but the media is obsessed with her. as the media becomes more and more obsessed, she's seen by
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middle america. when i see a woman attacked, i want to come to her defense. they have making her stronger and her empire of followers that much more intense. so i actually believe it's possible for her to become the nominee. i've been doing this a long time. i can see it happening. the only thing that may prevent is the voteers in never and iowa. maybe she won't. >> hopefully you can work a campaign. >> thank you. >> i think you should have been in "dancing with the stars" instead. >> not a chance. hell would freeze over. >> i want to say i read your
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book cover to cover. it was fabulous. >> thank you. >> as a fellow young republican and moderate republican, what do you think ways that aren't polarizing, get out, get loud, it is always the loudest group that gets put in the media. we have a voice too. we are ignored. we are polarized with the purity test. people want us out of the party. if we are pushed out of the party, who's going to vote? >> i always say to people, start online. it's the biggest audience, and it's been effective. facebook, twitter, myspace, joining their web site. virally is where i tell people to start. i think unfortunately, the hard part is i have the platform. i'm under no dilutions. i'm john mccain's daughter. that's originally why people put me on television. hopefully now i have something to say and that's why. i think it's sad the media
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doesn't cover it. they are not interested. the most extreme are the most interesting. again, i blame the media for all of this by far. it worries me. because i just don't think an average person can get on television saying i think we should work together. i'm republican and i'm not extreme. i really want a large tent party. so i would tell you to go online, find a candidate, support them, i will continue to work, i'm getting already really excited for the next general election. i'll work my ass off on a campaign. i'm going to choose a candidate hopefully sooner than later. and every way that i possibly can, to try to help make sure that election we don't completely lose all 20 somethings from the republican party. >> thank you. >> thank you. thanks for buying my book. glad you liked it. >> hi. thank you for being here. >> hi, how are you? >> i heard you twice say you are
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pro-life. i also heard you say you want the government to get the hell out of our lives. i'm wondering how you reconcile those two ideas. >> i personally pro-life is what i believe in my faith. i don't want to preach to other people. i don't want to police your body. i'm probirth control, i'm against abstinence-only education. i think abortion should be illegal. i'm not opposed to repealing it. i grew up christian. it's my personal belief. again, i don't want to police your body. everyone is entitled to their opinion. i feel one way, i have no idea how you feel, ma'am. the pro-choice movement is another. i saw this movie a few years ago called "if these walls could talk." it changed my question of abortion clinics. it's unbelievably tragic. it's about an abortion doctor
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that gets shot. i'm pro-life in life in general. i don't want any hate, hate crimes, or anything like that going on. it's for me personally what works. god and i came to an understanding of each other a long time ago. i have conflicts with my faith, and i also believe in gay marriage. i don't think being gay is a sin. i don't have all of the answers, i'm trying to work it out. >> you are pro-choice for other woman. it's up to each woman? >> i think woman should have the choice. for me, in my life, i'm pro-life. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. [applause] [applause] >> i'm sorry. i arrived late, i don't know if you covered it, what do you think of our soon to be "hutch money did i spend for it" governor as a republican? >> oh.
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you guyed elected him. [laughter] >> i don't really have anything to say. i was a fan of charlie crist in the election. obviously, i support marco rubio. i'm sorry, i didn't cover florida politics as closely as i should have. i was working on my father's campaign. >> i wonder what your opinion is about the young vote not coming out in these midterm elections as compared to the huge outturning that occurred in the general election? why weren't they there? >> i don't think these midterm elections were sexy. i think the general election,
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obama made it sexy to get out and vote. it was all about hope and change. when you don't have inspiring candidates, my generation won't necessarily vote. i voted in every election since i was 18. bristol palin didn't vote and said proudly on the television show. i think that's strange. i think it should be a law that you have to vote. a lot of woman did a lot of things that make sure i have the right to vote. anybody that doesn't vote, i think it's un-american, i don't understand it. >> what are some of the things you say to young people to say hey, go out and vote? >> i don't think you can sit around and complain unless you are voting, unless you exercise your rights. >> do that through twitter, facebook, platforms? >> i don't think you can complain unless you are voting. i would be hue mailuated to --
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humiliated to admit i didn't vote. last term's general election was sexy. i think like australia, it should be illegal not to vote. but that probably won't get passed. [laughter] >> yes, sir. >> i'm interested in your experience during the 2000, and how that was different from the 2008 experience that you had. >> i was 14 on my father's first campaign. so obviously it was a little different. and obviously it only lasted during the primaries. my father lost to president bush. i have fantastic memories of that time. going to town halls with my father, watching him in new hampshire, playing in the snow, it's where it all started. it's where i started loving politics and understanding it. it's when i first started realizing the people as a child
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henry kissinger, i figured out who he was. i thought he was a scary old guy. then i learned he was a prominent fixture of american history. it started when i was 14. i don't have any real memories of south carolina. people ask me that as well. i think my parents were awesome at keeping me very sheltered. but beautiful memories. it's where it all started. and i wanted some day, you know, get a house in new hampshire. because i have such an affinity for the state and the people and the nation status. it's actually why -- that's my argument for why palin won't become president. new hampshire, you have to earn the vote. people go to town hall to pick the candidates. they take the right seriously. it where i learned to love voting. it where i understand where learn the political process. i understand the electoral
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process. it's rare. it started at a young age. beautiful memories. >> thank you. >> thank you. i was very lucky as a child. >> i think we were curious to know what your own aspirations might be and in what way would you like to be able to bring your legacy to flourish? >> i do not want to run for office. i don't think i could get elected. i talk too much. i'm too honest. i will tell my life story to cab drivers, anything that you want to know. i'm a really open book. i twitter all the time. i'm not private, not very private. i don't think a woman like me could get elected. i'm 26. i really want to work. i'm excited for the next campaign and election. i've already had people interested in me working. which is unbelievably flattering. i want to go out and do it all over again with somebody else. i want to get a republican elected. i want to kick obama's ass next election. i will do anything to get there.
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i think i would like to be a strategist. it's a male dominated interest, i think a young woman's perspective would be helpful. there are some candidates that won't want me near them, there's a few off of the record that have expressed interest. that's what i would like to do. thank you. >> good afternoon, i seem to hear you say the tea party movement is something that you are kind of like not really taking into account. but quite frankly, it was the tea party movement, the grassroots that motivated me to get out and do things. if i felt like the republican party has abandoned it's people. >> you hmm. -- uh-huh. >> what is the world is the republican party standing for? >> well, i think, i would never dismiss the tea party movement. no matter how you feel about it, it's a complete force to be reckoned with.
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i expected joe miller, but i did not expect nancy pelosi to still be in office. if we were going to take over -- lisa murkowski is the first candidate to win as a write in over 50 years. it is over hyped. if it were really that big, jon stewart and stephen colbert were able to triple the tea party numbers at this rally, it says something. i would never belittle the tea party. i understand why people are angry. spending is out of control. obama has done little to nothing. i'm just as scared as everybody else about a lot of things going on. i think it's poorly organized. i don't understand the message. if sarah palin is the leader, i'm not getting behind it. >> well, i don't consider sarah palin the leader. but i think that -- >> do you have have?
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with all respect do you know who the leader is? >> no. that's because it is grassroots. basically the whole things seems to be get the -- you know, go back to the constitution, stop trampling the constitution, stop spending so much money that no one can repay. >> listen, i'm as frustrated as you are. i completely agree. >> i just feel like the republican party better start listening to what some of the people are saying. you know, there is a message. and the republican party has the ability to put that forward. >> i think what's going to happen, i honestly think the potential to happen that we are going to throw everybody out. i don't think it's just going to be republicans. i think we're going to get to a place. then politics will really be fascinates when complete antigovernment candidates are running the government. i am so excited to see what rand paul does. i cannot wait. i'm glad that he got elected.
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i want to see the libertarianism, if he does a good job, there's your leader. >> okay. thank you so very much. before we end, i want to bring this to a very different light. and say those of you who are sitting in the front, they can see the shoes. geo has the latest greatest sneakers. i pray for meghan mccain in the high heels. >> thanks. they are jessica simpson. >> they are wonderful. they have been wonderful. >> thank you for coming out. thank you. [applause]
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>> the reason i felt it important to do a book essay because that is what it is on the obama administration is because it's extremely important for progressive people not to create too many illusions about what is around because they don't help. to see in quite a hard-headed way what this new administration is, but it represents in terms of foreign policy, continue t and what it represents at home, and it's important to do that, to understand to what extent
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it's different than what extent it is continuing the policies of the previous three administrations not just bush and cheney, but clinton and bush senior. from that point of view, the balance sheet on have prepared of the obama syndrome more abroad and surrendered at home is not a very optimistic account or pleasing account of this administration to read now it isn't a pleasant talk to write books like this because when you see what is going on and read a lot of material which is being published on domestic policies and not foreign policies in this striking how conservative the administration has been. i know all the restraints and constraints. i know that we live in a new
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liberal period that despite the crash of 2008, the system and its political leaders have not attempted any serious reforms which were, you know, necessary after that crash. and so the crash has not gone away and simply been blasted over and it is going to worry people and is certainly were you the progress of economists. many of them who are not that radical who say that it is not going to work. so here was an opportunity for a new lease elected president who was not responsible and couldn't be held responsible for this political economic crash who had, unlike the previous presidents, mobilized hundreds of the lessons of young people in this country, brought them out into the streets to help
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them get elected and had created the illusion that they would do something. i mean yes we can is not a very concrete slogan, but it offers some hope order at least creates the impression of offering hope so young people were happy, they were mobilized and they thought that some change would take place abroad and at home for the balance sheet? let's first discuss the continuity in foreign policy. now, the continue to and from policy was symbolized by keeping [inaudible] at the pentagon and accepting the view that the petraeus surge
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in iraq solved the problem. bye sticking to bush's plan on the so-called withdraw from iraq without bringing about any change at all, buy pushing the plans through which are very simple controlling the combat unions from the city's, building huge military bases in that country and keeping between 50 to 70,000 troops that permanently that is with the withdrawal is and it's not new. the british tried in the 20's and 30's exactly the same plan and include it when there was a revolution in iraq in 1958 and they threw the british out. it's very likely in some shape and form, not in the shape and form of the trustees, but a similar thing will happen if these troops stay there.
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on iran, once again, this administration has carried on the policies essentially in the case that iran appeasing the israelis. the big pressure for not doing anything with iran both on the nuclear question and generally on other issues comes from the israelis who are prepared to do anything to preserve their nuclear monopoly. that is with that particular issue is about, and the failure of this administration to break with those policies of the previous administration is not all that surprising because i remember as i played golf in the book -- played out in the midwest teaching for four weeks and i saw this young fresh faced by running for the senate named barack obama convinced he's the

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