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hitler regime as the muslims are telling the hitler regime you are either going to stop allowing jews into palestine, you are either going to give us our own state the way we want it which it's free of jews, or we're going to work with the germans. and that's exactly what they did. ..
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>> he had an international islamic falling before his work. from india, to jerusalem, to yugoslavia, to london, to beirut. everywhere there was communication and support for the airport against the jews. eventually, after the arabs continually beckons the nazis for some form of alliance, it all came to a head with the commission in the late '30s recommended that there be to actual states. they said we have tried for many years to bring these two peoples together. now it's time to cut the country in half. they said we will never coexist with the jews in palestine.
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they actually said better it run as a colony for 100 years that we should live one day with jews as co-equals, allowing them to sit while they pray at the wall. i have to tell you, 99% of what you read in this book is quotation in context from the original arabic, from the original german, from the original english, from the original version documentation, et cetera, et cetera, as we try to document carefully the roots of the arab-nazi alliance. eventually the british began to see that their efforts to push the jews out of germany and out of europe, into palestine was creating an actual jewish state. not just a settlement, not just a big prison cell with egypt, not just a reservation, but an
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actual state. and they saw that as a threat to the third reich because he believed in importantly of an international jewish state. at that point, something else occurred. they realized as they're edging closer and closer to war in 1937-1938, they are beginning to understand that the british who they hoped would join them in anglo-saxon conquest of the lower forms of human life was not going to happen, and war was coming and women are would come they would need one thing, and that one thing did not grow in london, that one thing grew in the middle east. and that was oil. the arabs went -- the german cup when i say let to the germans, they went to adolf hitler personally. they said we will give you oil if you will kill all the jews.
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if you will recognize our state. they didn't mince words. i know, and you all know, that the nazis like to talk about extermination in code. you translated and it means special treatment. the arabs made no such pretense. they said kill the jews wherever you find them. kill a jew before he kills you. this was a whispered. this was on the radio night after night. broadcast internationally. how does it make its way up? the fort hood was in 1944. by this time world war ii was in full swing. and at this point, the nazis had decided to launch operation barbosa and invade russia. they couldn't get their without oil.
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the oil in romania that they had used was insufficient. the arabs said we will give you the oil, we will give you the oil of iraq, we will give you the oil of iran, we will give you all the oil we have it you will declare for an arab state. and hitler said i would declare foreign arab state and finish the jews when i cross the caucus parents. so it was everything the nazis and the arabs to do to make that come to pass. at a point in time in the spring of 1941, the jews of baghdad were on edge. they have lived there for 2600 years, but they knew that there were many arab-nazi. when i say and arab-nazi, i'm not talking about a guy who is running around with a swastika armband. i'm talking about hitler youths in arab lands. what do i mean by hitler use?
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i meant actual hundreds and thousands of young iraqi jews who went to nuremberg, the went to germany, to march in parades, who taught -- iraqi arabs, excuse me, iraqi arabs the went to germany, the broader concepts, to organize a long german bases, and to consider themselves actual nazis. in fact, i need to tell you that the second most popular name for a young child in the arab world was hitler. in fact, you could today see some people on the internet, arabs, whose name is hitler. i've give you an example. you can google a man by the name of hitler ton gallery.
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he is just an ordinary civil servant in egypt in charge of efficiency. his name is hitler. they had a theory going on, that adolf hitler was not born in austria. adolf hitler's actual real name was mohammed. he was a little egypt and boy. he had visited all the mosques of egypt, and he was the new savior of the arab people. in fact, the posters in the marketplace setting come in have in your master is allah. on earth your master is adolf hitler. so in 1941, in june, just before june 1, there was a decision to totally exterminate the jews. they were told to go into their homes, shopaholics, stay off the phones, turn off the radio, you
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all know the scenario. due to a last minute, i'll use the word rescue, by one of the arab leaders he was in good relation with the jewish people there, he expelled the chief arab-nazi who was doing this. and at that point, because the extermination in effect had failed, there was a mass riot of the iraqi military men, iraqi police, and arab-nazi's running all over the streets from june 1 to june 2 of 1941, killing hundreds of iraqi jews. what am i talking about? i'm talking about women being raped in front of their parents. i'm talking about parents being murdered in front of their kids. i'm talking about babies being
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sliced in half and thrown into the river. i'm talking about homes being invaded, and people running up to the rooftops and jumping from rooftop to rooftop to escape. and this was done with the full knowledge of the nazi government. they had given money. they sent aircraft in to support an operation just a few days before, and the chief arab agitator from the berlin government had his office there. they were working with the muslim jerusalem, and they're making this available in order to kill all the jews. but it didn't work. and it's because it didn't work it's been labeled farhud. what does farhud mean? it means violent dispossession, and every. and that means -- that is where
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we barely have in english, and so they use one word. now, there's not a jew and unisys are the world listening to me who does not know what farhud is big on many people people in this room who worship me to bring this information out. it's been suppressed because they want to pretend that the war against the jews had a bright line a little bit north of the middle east. that is not the case. the war against the jews was not just the war against my parents and your neighbors and you in poland, but all jews. the british did not intervene in this monstrous massacre. where were the british? they were just outside of town, outside of baghdad. why would they? they had one job, secure the oil.
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and they did secure the oil for british petroleum. and they said if we don't secure the oil, if the nazis get that oil, they will be unstoppable. well, the nazis did not get that oil. eventually they will stop because someone had the courage any iraqi government, changing form minute to minute, to call off guard and to oppressed the education. thereafter, the arabs change their tactics and said we will no longer work with just urban riots and mass mayhem in the city. we will help hitler do what he wants to do, cross the mountains, comrades and exterminate the jews of palestine. how? well, first of all we will make common cause with the iranians.
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what is the word iran mean? the word iran means that are the true, the name was changed from persia in 1935 to invoke the ancient name of iran as a salute to a massive not see dominated iranian infrastructure. after the british took over, the oil wells, secure them, that they had from decades, in iraq for years, not decades, they then moved into iran, expelled of the shock, brought in the mandate you know as the shah of iran, and kicked out 2000 not g8 agitators and military men and advance units that were creating
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railroad systems, trains, all sorts of infrastructure, events to cut iran off from the west, to cut the oil off from the west, and to give the oil simply to nazi germany. after that, the arabs said okay, we're going to switch. they recruited not one muslim fighter, not 100, not 1000, but tens of thousands. three divisions. they were to me in yugoslavia. anyone here from yugoslavia? ought not. >> okay. let me tell you what happened in
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yugoslavia. i want you to come again, except my apology in advance. what happened in yugoslavia was a manifold genocide and what happened in auschwitz. they form, the muslims formed with the catholic church a binational group, a binational genocide group. you don't hear about this much, but it was the single deadliest most bloodthirsty killers in the entire world war ii era. what am i talking about? it's awful. i'm talking about a prison camp where there was a contest
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between the guards on how many throats cut a slit in one. one guy slid 1350 throats, and he won. the next guy did 1100. he came in second. another guy did 650, he came in third. who organized this? the mufti of jerusalem. and the nazis. i'm talking about actual trans warfare. i spoke to a man here who said he was in the parties on. they've fought against the parties us in yugoslavia. thousands of them, artillery brigade, paratroopers, infantry, this is not just a bunch of people rabble rousing in the street. this is not just a bunch of people on rita. this was a group helping hitler wages war against humanity.
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it's very difficult when you talk but yugoslavia, because jeb serves, catholics, some jews. you have muslims, bosniak muslims, and the alliances change by the minute, by the hour. it was a murderous mix, and we have seen it today in that same part of the world. but the truth is that the worst crimes was the holocaust was committed by this muslim catholic alliance, as clients of the nazis in yugoslavia. eventually, hitler lost the war, but the holocaust stopped in may of 1945, and it continued in the middle east as all of the
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infrastructure that have been put in place by the arabs to make common cause of the nazis to destroy the jews, now came into the own the middle east countries. they invaded israel and they invaded, not to restore palestinian rights, not to restore their lands, but go to exterminate the jews. they even used the reference of genghis khan. this phrase was invented in the 1920s. not in the 1930s, not in the 1940s. palestinian blood not. how stein is our land. they would run up and down the street and they would scream palestinian is our land. but it was actually a ride. here's the second half of the run.
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palestine is our land, the jew is our dog. this was not in 1945. this was in 1920. this is not 1939. this was in 1920. this was once a regular chant. and i'm trying to give you the mindset, the roots of the arab-nazi a lions. in the holocaust. so all these guys whose names were hitler and all these guys whose name was adolf found common cause after world war ii. in fact, some 2000 nazis, prison guards, estoppel, s. s., migrated into the middle east, into egypt, we have the names in the book for the sole purpose of waging war against israel with propaganda, with boycott disinvestment and sanctions,
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with military maneuvers. wars. independence war, the work independence in 1948, and all the other wars that came to pass. german mastermind were working behind the scenes and, indeed, in the front on the airplanes bring it is to rally. what does this mean for us today? you have to look today when i see i got called mohammed who says i will never recognize israel as a jewish state. they can call themselves anything we want. this harkens back to the concept of we will never allow, we will never allow ourselves to coexist with jews in palestine. now, you may say why didn't you mention this and why didn't you mention that? i didn't mention about 99% of everything i say in the book.
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the book only -- didn't mention 99% of everything we could have done because every chapter we did in the book could have been a book unto itself or perhaps a small bookshop. but i did endeavor to give clarity to how it is from their perspective, how arabs were able to form an alliance during the holocaust with the nazis, how over 1400 years can how it played out over the war, and how it continued after the war in the 20th century. and as you know, the 21st century is owned by the 20th century. why did it happen? no oil, no iraq, no british petroleum, no need for middle
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east wars. it was oil. no one ever went to mesopotamia because they enjoy the stands. it was only what was underneath the stands that brought them, and that is what the arabs and the muslims of their world reviled. it's not just the muslims in palestine, not just in iraq, and iran, but also yugoslavia, india, london, et cetera. what is the message here? the messages -- message is that we want to use this information as a truth and reconciliation so we can understand how we got here. do not misuse my information to re-create a new legacy, but usually to confront the legacy
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of hate so we can move forward with all people in the middle east to create a future of peace. the germans and the jews have reconciled. they will never forget, but they are coexisting as allies. and that began, believe me, in june of 1945, not before. it is possible, it is difficult, it is difficult when it's not 13 years as it was for the third reich, but 1400 years. but with this information, i hope to arm you with what you need to understand our presence, understand our past. that you. [applause] >> and now i will take questions, but for some going to take some remote questions, which have been given to us in advance by various people around the country and overseas. the first question, and then i
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will take questions from the audience, how much time do i have? as much as i want, okay. okay, here's a question from a guy called -- at the university of miami who studies middle east history. he talks about the fact that the book documents, which i did not mention, that the jews were expelled from arab lands, about a million jews after world war ii were expelled from german -- from arable land into israel, all the money was taken. they emulated the iceman program, and it says do i support kurds efforts of it israel's foreign ministry to include in future peace talks when addressing the issue of refugees the case at 800, to 900,000 jews of arab lands?
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staying at of contemporary affairs, i will tell you that at the time that this occurred a half a century ago, the israeli foreign ministry said we will have to keep this in recognize, from morocco, from libya, from iraq, from all these different countries in balancing of peace, justice, and re- enfranchisement in the middle east. in israel. there is no question there are people who work every day to argue for the return. i know that leo here, and many others, are looking for the return of their property in poland, in czechoslovakia, in germany, in parts of russia. there are many jews in the arab world who were left penniless. what do i mean by penniless?
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they talk about, pulled their brains out if there is that they took the bracelets from their arms, and he did everything possible to live in penniless. wide why? because the arabs thought we don't have the manpower to kill all the jews, and we don't wish to now, although they did have concentration camps and north africa, we don't have the manpower to do that. so what we will do is will create a demographic bomb. will flood a million jews into israel. they won't know what to do with it. they will be on the beach, and israel will collapse. that did not occur. arabs were kept in refugee camps for decades. jews were absorbed into israeli society immediately. and as you all know, who is running the israeli government today? one way or the other, it's in many instances jews of, that came from arab countries.
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so they were not marginalized. they were not left to die on the sands. so this is a historic truth, that you must acknowledge what happened to a million jews, the middle-class middle class, and the upper class, they were expelled penniless. the second question here, comes from miami, was submitted by e-mail. let's see, it talks about in light of what you've discovered about the muslim catholic alliance, that murdered tens and tens of jews and serbians and also muslims, many muslims died at their hands, how does this relate to our understanding of recent international events
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about kosovo and all this? well, i can't tell you how complicated yugoslavia is. i can't argue how many partial countries, temporary countries, territories, duke dumps, kosovo, bosnia, albania, they all came and went, they all came and went, had different alliances to kill each other. the catholics at one point decided that although muslims are going to be honorary catholics, or honorary croatians, and they formed a group. yes, we should always understa understand, always understand that whatever we have today did not appear suddenly. it is a legacy. here's a question, and this comes from lester frank from los angeles. how does any of this relate to
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the movement, the so-called boycott sanction movement against israel? we hear about this all the this all the time to put of the historic roots of this movement? well, you hear about this boycott. when did this start? they started january 301933, actually april of 1933 when they went to the and consulate in jerusalem and said, we are ready to join the nazi boycott against the jews. and from that it percolated as a continuous effort to deny identification to legitimacy to and commerce with the jews in palestine. it got so bad that in the latter '30s, if an epitaxy took a jew across town, that arab taxi driver must be killed. so the movement -- the one we see today is as much a legacy of
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the arab-nazi outlines of hate as anything else that i have discussed. and now do you have one? here's a question from london from an iraqi jew. my question is, was the farhud premeditated or spontaneous? was a premeditated? the answer is yes. it was absolutely premeditated. it didn't work out the way they wanted to. they didn't exterminate all the jews, they kill their adjudicative hands-on and they killed him efficiently. and now i will take questions from here. there's a mic you. let's go with this woman first. can everybody hear me okay? >> thank you, mr. black, for this extraordinary panorama of
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the arab muslim nazi alliance. and for drawing for us the continuity of this issue. >> what is your question? >> my question is very simple. i've always heard that it was instrumental in all these events. and i would love it if you could give us a few more details about the persona of this man. >> the grand mufti of jerusalem was made a mufti by the british. and intimate camp eight bigger transport they made him a grand mufti. he was put in power for the sole purpose of keeping arabs of palestine in some kind of tranquility, and the reason for that was they were trying to build at the time and ultimate did build a pipeline from iraq to bring of the british petroleum oil to the allies and
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to the western world. now, british petroleum today at that time was not on british petroleum. it was called anglo persian, and many other names. so the mufti of jerusalem had a shadow government. he was given virtual autonomy. he was on the british payroll. he had his own infrastructure, and he had control over the western wall. he had control over the mosque. and he was a huge agitator have and it was typical for him to speak in front of the microphone and say, i want everybody not to engage in any kind of violence. and then in the side he would say, kill the jews, kill them where they are. so he was speaking with two different voices, one for the western world, and one for the arab world. this is a tradition that goes
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back to the mufti. we have given all these, this information in the diplomatic cables, in the arabic tables. we our hardest to quote the arabic to mutations at the time. so the mufti of jerusalem was devious. he was part and parcel at the highest level of the hitler regime. he met with hitler in his office. he was on the hitler payroll. he was given -- he was elevated by hitler. and when i say he was with hitler, i don't mean that he was just meeting in a dark shadow. they have newsreels. in fact, a mufti of jerusalem went to concentration camps. he went to the places where all the concentration camps were organized. he went we believe to a subset of auschwitz, and whenever they try to rescue jews, the mufti of
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jerusalem would send every possible letters to the hungarian officials, to the polish officials saying -- not to the polish, to the hungarians, to the bulgarians sank don't send the jews to palestine. send them to poland. now, if you think that no one knew where auschwitz was, in 1941 -- student, 1942-1943, let me correct you, because a little girl in an addict confirmed in her diary that jews are being gassed in poland. the bbc with broadcasting this, and i have reproduced the exact language of the book worldwide and numerous languages including estates explaining that auschwitz is a death camp, where to put gas in the so. this was very well known.
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and so he said send them to poland, we knew what he was doing. thank you very much, i hope i've answered your question. that the second question comes here. go ahead. >> my question is what now? you know, you hinted before when you ended, where -- who do we turn to? because in europe when we saw the -- the bosnian muslims were coming in warsaw, i saw them personally in warsaw. there was a whole regiment, and coming, moving forward we had our government, and american government send bombs. the serbians had -- spent let me try to answer the question.
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yes, as i've explained, the muslim forces of the third reich who were not just any that militias, they were ss units, dispatched all over europe in various formations for various paths, although they were namely centralized in yugoslavia. they were trained in france. your question is, you know about this, he saw them. what do we do now? that question will not be answered by me. that question will be answered by everyone who hears you. i have given you the history of how we got to this. i will not talk about the 21st century policy, but in the 21st century policy which is attempting justice must look
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back on the true facts of history. there is enough bloodshed in yugoslavia to write volumes and volumes. and, unfortunately, what our government does now in the middle east, in yugoslavia, et cetera, it's up to a sense of justice in history, and you, and you will decide what that is enemy. thank you very much. [inaudible] >> skewed income uses lack of knowledge. i hope i addressed that in the book and is presentation. now i will take one question from the side. >> you say he was under british payroll? >> yes, that he was getting something like 60,000 pounds a year on the british payroll. and we left the british payroll he went to the nazi payroll. [inaudible] >> prior to world war ii. now i'll take a question from
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this gentleman here. he is with justice for jews from arab countries. he is actively familiar with this. >> i had a personal question. the u.s. holocaust museum, as we both know, was not very keen to discussing this topic five years ago. [inaudible] >> can you tell me in the last two years, they are still not talk about this topic or have they addressed at? >> okay. the question is when the u.s. holocaust museum at information about this topic on the answer is of course yes. and many people in this organization of survivors know how difficult it has been to get the management of the museum to be truthful and cooperative on many issues. i believe it was five years ago,
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there was an attempt to get recognition of the farhud. this man was involved, the scholars were involved in the holocaust museum, put a stop to by sending out e-mails to all the other holocaust museums. they are narrative was that the holocaust experience, hitler's war against the jews, was a european experience. i'm sure you all know the jewelry. but that does not mean that just mile south of your that jews were not destroyed in belgrade, the first jewish free city. horrible cogitation kids in north africa. many jews who survived the holocaust in north africa did so because their arab muslims in north africa help them, and
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saved them. but that does not mean that they were not multitudes, there were not multitudemultitudes of arabs in common cause. the holocaust is he an obstructed that move by -- in the last several years they have reform and make progress. is no page on the website about the farhud. they're now putting information. i believe you launched -- what was your involvement in pressuring the museum to come clean? >> at the time i was executive director of the international council and i had asked peter black who was compatibility still is, the cheapest one of the holocaust museum -- >> no relation, by the way. >> i went to the holocaust museum as a tourist and asked him some questions. and he denied any responsibility of the book, the nazi in north africa, which is just not true.
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>> what happened there after? there was a protest movement? >> we sent the press release nasa calling for his firing because the u.s. holocaust museum, he refused to speak with us about the topic and basically shut the door anything relating to the farhud. the holocaust museum mission statement is about -- image anything about it in north africa. >> and by the way, did anyone in congress take up your cause? >> congressman engel came with me to the national synagogue and basically said on stage along with a rabbi that he would work to cut the funds to the holocaust is him and he about this topic. >> so now the holocaust museum has made strides. but just so you understand, all my research at the holocaust museum was locked. i was denied the right to the only institution in the world
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that cannot be the right to speak to their experts. the yugoslavian experts. and i'm very sad about it. i know that they have refused people in this room, survivors in this room the rights to their own records. leo has been fighting this cause. our job here is to once again hope that we can move forward aggressively to the holocaust museum to broaden their point of view and allow -- stop their confrontation with survivors, given their records, and open up their files and their experts to anyone, not just me, but anyone who wishes to speak to an expert. be the very collocated files. i'll take a question here. spent it's not a question, a statement that we don't want any statements that we will
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questions. [inaudible] >> excuse me? i'm sorry, that's not something i'm going to address. i'm only talking about the holocaust in a. i have a question from you. [inaudible] >> please. history. history. >> history question. when you refer to the not the machinery still operating after the official disintegration of the holocaust to further the arab movement against the jews, are you referencing -- this is my understanding, that they were the werewolves? >> welcome you can call them the werewolves. you can call them the secret foxes, you can call them vampires, you could call them whatever you want but they were
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in official positions, not an official positions. they were running the propaganda movement, when the military coordination. their first names were hitler or a dog or things of that nature. and this generation of nazis transferred into the arab world to create the middle east that we know today. and that is a question from -- >> utah very clear historical lines of the jew hatred in the middle east and world. would you also allude to some positive behavior and protection of jews. i'm wondering if you elaborate on that so that we can use this may be also as a foundation for future health? >> sure. i'm happy to get anyone who wants to say that it's all arabs or it's all muslims are wrong. they are misinterpreting what i'm saying. i'm talking -- remember, no one
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asked doctors what the germans in world war ii there was every german? no. was at every poll? no. was its -- let me take something. most of the french jews today are alive because of the frenchmen in france help save them. that is true. now, what we use today? people say to me, is there no hope? how do you defeat 1400 years of hatred? there is a peace treaty with jordan. is a peace treaty with egypt. this is called coexistence. and coexistence can lead to peace. so when you come out of here, don't find a reason to amplify what happened in the 20th century. find a reason to move forward in handshake and brotherhood with arabs, with muslims muslims, to look back on history as they
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have in south africa, as they have with yugoslavia, as they have with rwanda. and move forward and say, now what can we do here looking at our honest history? so use the president's. [inaudible] >> arab regimes, depending upon the decade, depending upon the center, depending upon the territory have alternately massacred the jews were elevated them to delete no villains. and i tried to get the nuances of that in the book. there's a huge legacy of neighborliness between jews and arabs, but i also had to give the context. enemy, you know we can say about black people in this country. that black people in this country, they rose, they became a great sports stars, great jazz guys, but they became great jazz
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guys at great sports guys within the context of the civil rights movement, within the context of being suppressed and being subjected to jim crow laws and things of that nature. so yes, whether black supply of money? sure. adapted by three times as hard to get there? yes, they did. they were good relations. i'm happy to emphasize the good relations -- [inaudible] >> even in the farhud, and the book makes this clear, many times a jewish family was saved by an arab. in fact, the reason the extermination itself did not go through, it's true, thousands of arabs in ascertaining murdered hundreds of jews. but there were also a few key arabs who saved it from becoming total extermination, and they
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are named and they must be recognized. how much time do i have left? 15, okay. >> i wanted to know if you want to speak on this issue on campuses? >> okay. the answer is -- [inaudible] >> okay, the answer is i do about 300 events a year. and i'm doing many events on this topic at universities that i will be -- had a website called edwinblack.com. my schedule is open. i'm not hiding from anyone. you can go to my multiple tour of 2009-2011. i had events in south florida. i have five or 10 events in san francisco bay, january and february. so i speak as often as possible. but i have to tell you
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something. there are many people who don't want this message. and not all -- some people within the jewish community itself did not want this message discussed. my challenge is to bring this history out, not without politics, without polemics, and to use it as a basis for facts and moving forward in brotherhood with our neighbors. not as a way to rationalize them. yes? >> in my work with you helping research the book, i came to some sort of conclusions on my own. a lot of what went on in the 20 century since israel was born, a lot of negotiations of the peace process and also problems that jews have around the world, a lot of people often say i'm not anti-jewish. i'm anti-israel. if israel wasn't there, israel wasn't doing this or that. your book outlined that the
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nazis claimed their anti-semitic art anti-jewish. they change the tone from anti-semitic to being anti-jewish and it. they just want to get rid of the jews. what do you say to people who try to differentiate between being -- in the scheme of things we look at the researcher done, this book and other books, it becomes only but one thing. >> well, you are correct. you in our research efforts, and when i say you were in the research efforts, you with her hour to hour and minute to minute for many, many months as we constantly struggle to document this, from all sides to be careful not to leave anything out. the answer is it is anti-jewish, not anti-zionist. the jews are in their homeland. so the vocabulary used is
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anti-zionist, but decades before there was a state of israel in 1948. in 1920, in 1921, decades before that they were still singing, palestine is our land, the jew is our dog. so this does not involve a sudden appearance of the reactive hatred. you know, i saw a guy come on the jon stewart show and who's in charge of boycotts against israel. he said jews and arabs have always live in peace in palestine. not a day, not in our come if you find would come if anyone finds one, if anyone finds a day, let me know that the jews and arabs lived in peace in palestine. even -- either it was before 1940 or after 1898 for the zionist cause, and remember, the
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idea that jews could not sit down at the wall was kept alive, elevated to move d., and became a cause for the whole muslim world for years and years, and even today, even today there are efforts to deny the jews the right to claim the wailing wall as their religious place, based on the information i've given you. one more question. do we have time for one more? a question from this woman here. we're going from left to right. >> it's never emphasize enough that the arabs actually didn't discover the oil. they didn't discover the oil. actually they were searching for water. >> all right. who discovered the oil? since i've written many books on oil, and since i've another book coming out next month called british petroleum and their
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history. i get a oil is older than civilization. the first oil was being used by cavemen in south africa 60,000 years ago. there was oil in the 1800s in the middle east. but the exploration, the industrial oil, the oil with the cashers that you know about, this was discovered by the british. the first one in iraq being at -- we have pictures of that in my next book but i also have a book where i explain the whole history of the. whether or not the arabs discovered oil only reinforces the view that their land was given to someone else to bring a non-islamic presence, and non-arabic presence into the country. and this is only intensified the
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jihad. the original jihad against the west was born in 1920. that's in the book, too. it was not born -- is born 1920 and it was in reaction to choose in palestine, oil in iraq. one more question. i will take one more question. just a minute. we're waiting for the microphone. >> can you hear me? you have said before about haj amin al-husseini. he had an office near hitler in berlin. there was a problem. they made him a gentle, about to making a general in the ss. they could make him a general. the problem was solved. he was not an area. he was a jerk. therefore, it was impossible to make -- >> what is your question? >> there's no question. making a statement.
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>> okay, fine. we have time for one more question. here's a gentleman here who will give us a question. 20th century, please. >> you mentioned -- >> what is your name? >> andrew. >> and are, what's. >> was you mention help iran was changed from persia to iran. trying to appeal to hitler's sense of nazi party. but how many people in iran or worldwide acknowledged the root of this name change and what are the factors that are contributing to the name to iran's? >> the name iran, when i first brought this out, some years ago, in some articles i was subjected to a massive intimidation campaign, which means nothing your i stood up to ibm so i can stand up to everybody. the name iran is an ancient name
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that goes back thousands of years. and the swastika is actually an iranian for persian symbol. i'm talking about, it is backwards. but it came down through the years, okay? now, somewhere in the 19th century there was -- i'd like to take it clear that in the book we indicate that the roots of the swastika, what you see in ancient pottery of the iranians. around 19th century there was a mixup of the words, and the scandinavians thought that they were the actual ones come and this allowed this fake aryan race called to exist which was
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medicalized by the rockefeller foundation and the carnegie institution and henry ford into the concept of eugenics, which also wrote a book called "war against the weak." does the world recognize this? know. do you recognize it? yes. another question. yes, ma'am. >> do you remember by any chance what was the name of the person in croatia, was famous for having the office basket of human eyes? >> all right. the woman says do i remember the name of the guy in croatia who had a basket of eyeballs in his office, for showing it. that is referred to on page 327 and 335, and i don't want to take the time to read it here, but we have his name and we have access to the film archives.
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and he showed them off. there were 40 pounds of eyeballs. and now i am at a time. i will take just one more question. does anybody have another question? yes, ma'am. ask your question. >> you had said that the prominent name was adolf and hitler in the past. what happened to those names? did it disappear or are the adolf junior's, hitler junior's? >> what happened altogether and all the muslims who decided to name their kids adolph? well, most of them thought that this is not the best name to have any postwar period, and they cast off those names that anyone can change their name like that. and most of them did that some of them didn't. the ones that didn't, you can
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find -- in fact, i will read to you if i have a moment, a very unfortunate letter. and this is an imaginary letter written to adolph hitler after he died. and this letter says as follows, it says dear adolph hitler, i wish that you had triumphed. i had the exact text you. i wish you had triumphed. you are the greatest thing that ever happened, and one day you'll come back and i wish the arab world and have a hitler, too. and that was written to an egyptian newspaper. and the men who wrote the letter was anwar sadat. in fact, i have pictures of anwar sadat come to jerusalem and his tie is covered with swastikas. in jerusalem. anyway, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
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[applause] >> thank you. >> edwin black is the author of several books including "ibm and the holocaust," and "internal combustion." to find out more visit his website, edwinblack.com. .. >> up next, michael wolraich,

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