and i didn't work on some 14th century in 15th century rolls and files that was largely to establish going further back, a longer trajectory that i knew his radically transformed in the decades, right around 1600. so within this decade surrounds exchange hundred that much of the research in terms of the heavier focus got to work. >> finally, professor halliday, if you told us that to the general audience, what is your selling point? >> to a general audience, judges matter. ..

in using this whether or not the judges today might rediscover something about what it is the candian can't. >> polis the government published by harvard. habeas corpus from england to employer is the book. coming up next, book tv presents "after words," an hourlong program where we invite a guest host interview authors. this week blocker and troup brietbard on his latest book "righteous indignation." the cofounder of the

huffingtonpost.com discusses his transformation from the fault liberal to self-described conservative cultural or you're battling members of the mainstream media. he discusses the liberal bias news outlets that talk radio and television host armstrong williams. >> host: i'm armstrong williams. when i was asked to conduct this interview with andrew brietbard, the one we've heard so much about particularly over the last couple of years, whether it's jones, a.c.o.r.n. and the role he played into the revolution that brought the individuals. we all have our mixed emotions. and so, when i read the book "righteous indignation" excuse me while i save the world really didn't know what to aspect but i must tell you, as the one who reads to books a week, it is a

book that really impacted me. it really brought the realization, things in my own life that i write about and i experienced and others have experienced this is a book i strongly recommend and i am meeting brietbard for the first time, i don't know him this is our first encounter. but i will tell you this is an incredible piece of work i strongly recommend that you read in you will understand why over the next hour. welcome to the show. you grew up as a liberal. your mentors were liberals. talk about that moment in your life. >> guest: there's david horowitz has the apostate to and from the left to the right and he did so in an incredibly deep fashion intellect. while i was the shallow form of the liberal that you could possibly be, i grew up on the west side of los angeles and one high school constitute the going to three or four movies a week,

going out with my friends, watching television, going to a prep school and then to lean university. at no point in the antiyour experience in west los angeles where the executive of hollywood -- execs of hollywood studios lived and actors and such, at no point during that period of time did i hear conservative thoughts. at no point in did i have any opportunity to become anything other than liberal. so i consider myself redefault liberal. >> host: in the book you talk about one of those life changing moment. you're watching justice thomas anita hill hearings. what happens to andrew brietbard? >> guest: i just graduated from college, a place where it was like my bar mitzvah. i fought in my bar mitzvah i would learn education about judaism but i left feeling into

because i just learned how to chant. so i was open for spiritual experience. i didn't get. i felt the exact same way in college where i was an american studies major and the stuff i was reading was incomprehensible and was jargon, it was noam chomsky like in its lack to a person who doesn't understand that language, and it was demoralizing. and i graduated, less motivated, and i was a waiter -- >> host: you got yourself. >> guest: i did. my education was a lack of an education. so i was waiting tables right after bridge leading college and i finished my lunch shift and i would go home -- >> host: in your friends would say why are you doing this, you are so much better -- >> guest: it was embarrassing, humiliating, the best thing that happened in my life was the humiliation of having to work and the people i was always

looking at two and trying to impress were looking down on me. and i started to pay for my own food -- >> host: but your parents cut you off. >> guest: my parents cut me off. it was brutal. that's why i dedicated the book to my father who cut me off and clarence thomas at the same time this. both of their guidance in my life coincided. >> host: that's a good segue back to the hearing. >> guest: i went from my weeding job and started watching the hearings wanting to root the shakedown of clarence thomas. the television set told me that this was a bad man and the newspapers told me he was a bad man, and i remembered eleanor, patricia schroeder walking up the steps saying we are going to take a stand against this guy for sexual harassment, so why watched these hearings like a spectator who wanted to see somebody mauled like why in

small and roman. and i watched day one and day to, the entire thing. i went from wanting him to be taken down to wondering where's the beef? what's going on? i don't understand what i'm watching. i don't understand the color commentary that's on the screen where they say this is outrageous. and i didn't understand the bumper stickers going by me on the street saying i believe anita. i said i believe anita would? i don't understand what's going on here. everything i knew, everything i picked up at college in my american studies cultural marxist oppressor black people are always white, white people are always wrong i didn't understand how ted kennedy, the ted kennedy would come howard metzenbaum, joe biden and a series of privileged men could sit in judgment of this man who was the son of grandparents who were sharecroppers and he went

to yield all school. he did everything right including allowing for any the hill to rise through the ranks of the legal profession through jobs with him where she never had a sexual relationship with him at all. he did nothing and torn, and she was party to this takedown, and i did not understand how it could be that these white people of privilege were attacking a black man in this historic position while the mainstream media took him down and the naacp and the urban league and other black liberal leaders sat and seemed to relish. >> guest: who was the mentor? you had a mentor who was brutally murdered. and you didn't know you had this mentor and it was a long that time that you start to questioning the indoctrination. some of the smartest person and

it was a guy named mike and he was different, he was alternative and the smartest guy i ever knew. in hindsight he wasn't the most ethical. he took the s.a.t. for a bunch of my friends and got the 1600's. he was the smartest guy you could ever meet and he dropped out of uc santa barbara he was floundering doing drugs. during the period what time he was my mentor he was taking me to alternative bookstores to read about a left-wing ideas. he's very much was in to the class struggle. when i started to have these epiphanies and i started to get my job as i was aspiring to be in intellect, was trained to understand the view and increase the struggle at a certain point my dad said something that nobody told him. you need to get a job, you need to get your act together and

stop doing drugs. so there was a certain point i started to challenge my mentor. it wasn't that i thought i was an intellect and i was able to beat him at the game of the s.a.t. scores. it was still about 400 points below him on that level but i started to gain self-confidence and self respect i call him out on his misbehavior. and i just started to move away and i got a phone call as i was starting to move towards independence and away from this but the novelty that absolutely dominated his consciousness. i got a phone call that he was murdered at a hotel room in los angeles and i imagined it was during a drug deal that went bad. and to this day i think about how i never cried about that. post within the devotee restaurants to the appearance

and your story and tell you have to negotiate to get a higher great secret graduate because if you didn't graduate with the humiliation your life would be lost but then a friend of yours at yale called and said andrew brietbard, i've got the perfect job for you. >> guest: it was an astrophysics major who always cared for me. he always knew in prep school that i wasn't going to be be a student but i was the class clown and i meant well. that is why skirted around my adc and was able to maintain my place in an elite academy where everyone was harvard, stanford, princeton down. i knew i wasn't going to begin to an elite academy and i didn't want to leave my friends. he bergen -- >> host: you would visit him? >> guest: he visited me and said i need to take you on a

walk. just sit down, he said i need to take you on a walk and he took me around the streets of santa monica and he said this is when i was utterly wayward and he said a senior future. it's this thing called the internet. it works the way your brain works and at that point i had been diagnosed with adult were add and i tried ritalin for about a month and i felt hideous about it. i was trying to figure out how could conform to the work place where people have to work into buckles, and i knew that i couldn't do that. i would rather drive around l.a. listening to talk radio or music. >> host: you left out you started listening to rush limbaugh. >> guest: any way he told me i've seen the internet, i see the future, yet still to this day i think that there's something almost eerie about that because he's right, the internet does work the way my dreamworks.

>> host: but you explain how very difficult and arcane it was during the time and you had to figured out and hustle it was and then you had another t. tiffany. during that if any another little lesson drop your way. he received a call from the huffingtonpost.com arianna. >> guest: here's what happened. i actually was driving down the street on will shire boulevard, and i'm not the most religious person to leave you heard earlier my experience with my bar mitzvah and i wrote back and said god, please give me something to motivate me. i don't want to work in hollywood. i don't like it. i need a mission. and the internet coincided with woo-hoo leading matt drudge. i leave him almost read away and he was full and t-shirts at cbs of the time.

i met him about four hours and met his world view and what he felt about the media, heard what he felt the 1995 internet and he left the place, drove off in an old beat-up what hyundai, the manager of the cbs get shot and i said to my wife is a media visionary. he's going to change the world. >> host: and he was your hero. >> guest: >> host: i want to go back before the early him years and some of the things you write because, you know, it's very interesting when you read some one's work and you're also in the media, and you are familiar with the same story and you read the facts of the person's book you know that person is telling the truth and exactly what he was talking about. one of these things i would like to spend some quality time talking about which you talked about so eloquently in your book is how marxism and others who

had to exit noss hegemony who had the fleet will, how they came to the united states, how they were able to maneuver through education, how they were able to win praise from "time" magazine as you talk to in great detail who learned how to disguise and make it possible for people -- talk about that because that is an absolutely astounding piece of work. >> guest: i was an american studies major at tulane and i looked at those books when i got that i didn't completely read when i was at college so i had to convince teachers to up my great. i remember sitting in the class say in what is she talking about, what is this professor talking about? it doesn't make sense to me. it didn't ring true so when i go to a survey in the mail asking me to great my american studies

i started to read this book and look up the names of those people and i started to find out they were part of the group called the frankfort school. it sounds weird to talk about the frankfort school. most people have never heard of this. but the frankfort school i believe our the origins of the mess we find ourselves in the culture right now. they are ultimately the architect of political correctness, the architect of multiculturalism, they are the architect of the disruption of american culture as we know at. the once that said it's wrong. they were the ones that separated people by race and people based on the old economic marxist argument of the head of verses the have not into the class struggle based upon the peasants fighting off -- >> host: please explain it

even deeper that he already had a segment in this country, americans, blacks who feel disenfranchised, who felt no love for loyalty and how they were able to come and raise them up, use their tanks against this country to become a sort of ally and even when in from the suffrage. >> guest: that's what they did. i was about to tell you that they translated economic marxism to the cultural marxism to to give vantage of black people who had been dispossessed and had been treated miserably. and to put them against the white establishment. they did so also with the female the establishment. they started to put male versus female. they started to put black versus white. multi-cultural model turns her academia into the post

structuralism that you see. when your kid now goes to school the of the opportunity of graduating with a studies degree. it's the building of the victim of what she, the entire canon and the entire world view to believe that their entire path in life is to fight the still schmidt because it is out to keep you down. the dewitt with black, hispanics, and i'm telling you it runs so contrary to what's in the core of william as a human being, and that's why i think that the clarence thomas hearing was so instrumental to me because my entire sense of righteousness, my righteous indignant as a youth going to my inequities i found it society and when i discovered that the cultural left wasn't interested in creating equality in this country who, that it wanted to

use, it wanted to put blacks against whites in order to continue to climb to get political power in this country it was demoralizing to say the least but once i figured it out, i decided the hell with it. but troy pluggable shiller boulevard set by what a mission in life, this is my goal in life, and want to destroy the institutional left and make it so that black people in this country, hispanics in this country have the freedom to believe and what of your political philosophy they want to believe in. the democratic party is not the only place for them in this country. i believe in freedom and individuality as the corner of my belief and my fight out there are the attack on the naacp, my attacks on the mainstream media are because i want to break down this artificial construct that americans against each other.

>> host: andrew brietbard has written a fascinating, and i cannot emphasize enough, piece of work, "righteous indignation excuse me while i save the world." another aspect of this book that is just living, and this aspect you will find shocking, painful and truly disheartening. i remember the situation in washington, d.c. that you write so vividly about where members of the black caucus, john lewis and others said they were called the n-word and we want word on the airwaves -- 15 times come thank you. and was a big story. the mainstream media ran with it, and i will tell you this, we had people there and they said armstrong, it did not happen. they said they did not happen. i said no one would just make up that type of alladi and say i

did not happen. you have in this book that there are those that are so bent on their agenda and maintaining the received power that they have that they will absolutely why and the media will brand this is the truth and when they realize that it's not, they will never issued an apology or make amends for it. >> guest: this is what is at risk. identity parties, 90% of them inflated by women like sarah palin and michele bachman who picked me up in an mtv and take me into town and take me to the tea party. at those who t party is the best speakers tend to be black conservatives. most of the are not the best speakers because they are black. >> guest: know, there's a reason these dynamics are happening. because men, because of political correctness they are afraid of the shuttle. the men running for the

republican ticket right now who are testing everything that comes out. >> guest: i advocate herman cain, ellen west -- it would be a ticket for what? presidency. because it would go straight after what i call the democrat -- >> host: before we get their wheat got to talk about what is the veto lies. that black men and women are creating the tea party, making a place that unlike the republican party which is a toxic environment for blacks and that has been the media's job for years. this is a place for blacks and women's and hispanics to go to recreate this country in its original constitutional vision. and that is the threat. that is why they had a fight. that's why they had to lie.

nancy pelosi -- >> host: but these are vicious lies. >> guest: what happened is this, and all i have to do is point to the architecture of capitol hill. there are tunnels between the cannon house building and the capitol, and that is how nancy pelosi truffles. that's how she gets to her capital to vote but on this day when 40,000 to party members got out there to say kill the bill -- >> host: what bill? >> guest: obamacare. before obamacare there was a rally, and nancy pelosi orchestrated, i guarantee you, this is my positiveness but it's pretty much undeniable when you see what happened. we started to get the word out that barney frank was called a bad word to describe a homosexual on twitter. people wrote about it. well, i can't believe barney frank was called by the tea

party people. they wanted to have that behavior from the tea party. they'd never gotten it but this time they got it and one time somebody called barney frank the f word and then we heard that a black congressman were called the inward and the next thing you know the media picks up on it and after two years of trying to find a racist incident or bad incident -- >> host: they created one. >> guest: -- they created one. >> host: i don't want to interrupt you, andrew brietbard shows his sincerity and care about this and offered members of the congressional black caucus $100,000 if they could prove in any instance where they were called the n-word. >> guest: once, not 15 times read all the needed was once. >> host: and what happened? they ignored $100,000. >> guest: but here's of the thing, here's what they were trying to do. jesse jackson, jr. was walking through the crowd trying to get a youtube moment of somebody

saying something. they could have walked underneath the most popular members of the caucus, walked through the crowd hoping to inspire -- to incite something. how can i prove this? nancy pelosi, an hour after the alleged even where the n-word was rolled that is a place congressman carson said he thought he was going to be hit by rocks. nancy pelosi walked through the same on secure ground with a massive gamble that was about ten times the size of a gavel with a grin on her face from a year to year. she wanted people to yell at her. she could have walked underneath. they were all looking to incite the crowd. sheila jackson lee was giving a sign from the capitol, they were trying to get the moment and they didn't get. here's what congressman carson said, and it's on video. i was walking down the cannon house steps, walking out of

cannon, and a mob of 400 people surrounded us. people started to roll the in word 15 times, he said, 15 people, killed the bill, in word. kill the bill, in word. he said was a page of the time machine and then the police saw we were in peril, and i'm paraphrasing but it's pretty much freedom, and then the police assault and took us out of 60. there is no police reports that this happened. there is no police version, there is no audio of the 400 people coming to say they heard it. one person could have been there could have been a liberal, nobody saw it. congressman carson created such an image that is not what barney frank said. one person said something. he created a vivid image of a page of a time machine to read that is -- those are his words.

and when i heard his description, and i juxtaposed it with what people were saying like your friend said, it didn't happen. it didn't happen. i was so upset i offered $100,000 this would happen the next day? they shut up. they didn't think there was an idiot like me who would take on race. white guys are supposed to sit back and take their racism thing and i might know i'm going to take this head-on for clarence thomas. i'm going to take this head-on. this is the battle of my life. >> host: what happened to you during the bill more interviewing you sold yourself out because you love to be part of the club. >> guest: this is many years ago. i did and a friend of mine went for the cheap laugh and said white when you stand up for when you believe in? >> host: why didn't you? >> guest: it was my first round in the media. i wanted to be in the club and

then a friend told me -- everybody praised me and said you were great. the bill more people said we want to have you on again. on was like -- >> host: read the book to get the details. >> guest: and my friend said you were great on the show, why didn't you stick up for what he believed then. this was 2,009. >> guest: the invite me like 2007, 2008. he went back on with professor michael eric dyson who is the embodiment. i tell you it is almost out of a movie. it's cinematic. the usually have three panels. they had one panel --. >> host: he wouldn't like you're saying that. >> guest: no, he didn't because i started to recite the

names when he started to talk in a foreign tongue the deconstruction as the bifurcation of the intellectual deconstruction i remembered my dog that's what i heard in college that i didn't understand he was caught up in the vernacular that i actually was afraid gillmor would ask me what did he say and i had no idea what it said. but his job is to make me appear like i'm a racist. his job was to call rush limbaugh a racist and i am sitting there thinking to myself stand up for what you believe in and i started to fight back if the crowd started booing me and it started the second i would get a syllable out they would start before did get a sentence in the bill more had to stop and say let him finish.

let him finish. and michael eric dyson. i don't understand the power struggles were talking abut young man, from the definition of what racism is. racism is the cultural and possession of the dialectic what -- i don't know what he was talking about racism, racism. and everywhere i go, racism, racism. unlike racism is why you guys use. this is where in america this is un-american where you are guilty and you don't even have the ability to prove it. >> host: are you trying to convey to the listeners who are like i am record with this discussion but it's only black men that played the race game, played the cards and just tell these lies? they don't have a monopoly on them? >> guest: bill largest sits back and enjoys it and plays off

of it because mcnuggets white males as shelby steele will talk to you about it is played like the black community, the liberal black community. and the people who will tell you about this the most are black conservatives. they say yaki and guess what we are, an uncle tom. if liberty is in their place. >> host: here's what people do not understand in this discussion. people mahdi and tell great lawyers, many people hurt sometimes and many people die. why would a media like nbc, cbs, "the new york times," the "the washington times," "l.a. times," does a today, why would they be complicity and enabling in this very dangerous process for the country? >> guest: it is putting people against each other in the summer. that is when it was last year, the congressional black caucus.

don't do this. don't put us against each other. we can't afford it. we need to be united as a country. why does the media along with it? >> host: take the attack and say this is wrong. >> guest: they won't because i call it in the book and i'm not trying to be cheesier but this is what i got from the clarence thomas meetings why did the naacp sit on its hands? why did not katie couric but why did dan rather, tom brokaw and peter jennings and "the new york times" played ball with this takedown of clarence thomas? i called it the democratic media complex. after clarence thomas bill clinton was named the standard bearer of the democratic party when the year before they were telling us that a very close threshold of sexual harassment, then you have bill clinton whose behavior in the workplace was deplorable by even the liberal -- >> host: in your book you said

they came to his rescue. >> guest: they came to his rescue and the admitted they did it for abortion policy. they admit it now, but that's why they went after clarence thomas. and so i called it the democratic media complex. >> host: use it much more in your book. he said they found an opening, in fact in changing the conversation and manipulating the american people along the words come and this isn't really but -- it's about the power of the structure. >> guest: it was about the power structure in the work place that you don't understand what it's like for a woman to exist in the workplace. you don't understand i believe, anita to read as the scenes that michael eric dyson was talking about and noam chomsky, the same stuff that was taught in the 1940's and 1950's, a bunch of european gentleman who were cultural marxists and they fled nazi germany and mussolini's italy to come to places like

southern california at the height of the golden age and these men were depressed what they saw was consumers some and their desire to create a serious you to be a come economic utopia hindered and hampered by what they solve was a shallow consumers some and they devised a political cultural marxist past when that wasn't industry to the public's but the culture they told them who go to the college campus, go to hollywood. they took over hollywoodian they took over the mainstream media and they devised a false pretense called objective journalism. they are not objective journalists because if you talk with journalists over a cocktail in washington or and new york city you get down to the nitty gritty of why these people got into the journalism and the first place, and there are to the answers they will give you.

social justice, economic equality. the motivations for the civil rights movement, and so liberal white journalists are absolutely invested in the 1960's urban league jesse jackson naacp narrative and the conservative black people need to shut up. >> host: are you telling me, telling us that it only exists for liberals and in the liberal establishment? >> guest: are you talking about political collect or control? >> host: however you want to answer. >> guest: here's what i enjoy above the conservative media. >> host: are you saying it doesn't exist, to the have exclusivity on this? >> guest: i really do believe that that's the case. i believe that rush limbaugh, who they hate, he's not trying to keep anybody down and i believe that rush limbaugh does

something that "the new york times" writer some did, i am biased. i'm coming to you with my point of view and i'm biased, a conservative and that is the difference between conservatives and liberals in the media. liberals use their object to the diaz their weaponry to cause people like me, andrew brietbard, diesel fuel. i just thought i was getting the truth. i thought i was getting the truth. cresco and was about transparency. you said the one thing that the liberals to very well like obama , this is a lie and, i smoked a little, i hung out with bad characters, that's my life story and you say it took the wind out of those whose students go to politics. what republicans should do is

just disclose, be honest and dhaka played with a are no matter what it is. >> host: and going to the bill marshall or msnbc. let it hang out a little bit it's one of the left is able to control the narrative of a country that according to the gallup poll as a to-1 ratio of the conservative to liberal but you turn on the television and read "the washington post" and it's all the liberal narrative and all of the conservatives are afraid of the shadows, afraid the past is going to come out and they are going to be afraid that somebody is not going to like them or not invite them back. mark foley, he was isolated the same reason why somebody who is black is isolated because he is gay and a conservative. i've supported and i've gotten into trouble with this with some parts of the conservative

movement as big a conservative organization. if this means there can't be something called a conservative, then i'm not a conservative, and mark was targeted the way that a liberal what would closeted gay man would be because the organizers left has decided that its job is to target today conservatives and humiliate them as large as possible as a form of political extortion. if you don't believe the way we believe we are going to ruin your life. >> host: there's so much to this man, andrew breitbart come "righteous indignation excuse me while i save the world." i don't know if people know that now that you've become the genius of the internet along with those that you admire so much we were able to force the

media to address a.c.o.r.n.'s corruption and brought to life than jones and other stories, and you did not do it because you had a angst or you had an axe against these people. you felt like there was wrongdoing, serious wrongdoing and it should be reported. >> guest: absolutely. james op east and haniyeh came to me with a prepackaged -- >> host: who? >> guest: the didier undercover work. james was the guy that does these types of things and hammill was the person that came up with this particular idea. i didn't target a.c.o.r.n. three devotees as i did but when they came to me with of the vote, video with a bow on top and the asked is this newsworthy --

>> host: and you thought they could be setting you up. you were cautious. >> guest: yeah, yeah, i was a little worried. when a person tells you that the do undercover video, you worry that they are doing undercover video. so i must say at first i was worried but then i started to see what we had here which was multiple outlets of a.c.o.r.n. acquiescing to set up a lawful for oftentimes 14 year old girls and they had to serve this with a smile. of course this is new because if the same premise were to be done a heritage, at the heritage foundation, the conservative foundation here in washington, do you think that katie couric would say this is news? >> guest: >> host: how corrupt is a.c.o.r.n.? >> guest: i believe they were incredibly corrupt. the information was hiding in plain sight that the books had been written on a.c.o.r.n., the articles had been written, but

there was a picture that also thousand words, and that's why hollywood is so important. there would be a movie about a.c.o.r.n. by the way if this were a conservative institution. the videos were able to illuminate and create a debt of what had already previously been written and fallen upon deaf ears. so the video was a message, it was a shot across people out there in the media of land that for $1,400 that's how much it costs for all those offices. for $1,400 he could investigate a project like that. she comes to me and says how could we effected licet this past the mainstream media barrier that doesn't want to deal with corruption within planned parenthood. these heroes of the new journalism do this for nothing. you know what message that sends? it sends to other people with

abc, cbs and nbc are going to ignore corruption, if they are going to ignore to hurt the liberal side when they are not acting in the checks and balance against half of the culture, then the average american can do it him or herself. but the more that katie couric rejects this movement, the more the movement is going to become a people's movement. the technology exists, the motivation exists but what fox news has been so eager to averitt to the video as they did the following morning when they called to say we've got a problem we didn't edit on fox and friends weirded earlier. with the have been eager to air this had there been to you about some conservative organization? >> guest: i don't think the process would have gone through fox news. why would fox news have it? the would have gone to abc news and in all likelihood they would have got to hbo and got an

$10 million for the rights and turned it into a series beyond the cover of rolling stone and all that type of stuff. the defense differently. the left does things differently and better. >> host: i want to say something. many of you watching the show, you may not like what andrew breitbart is singing but andrew breitbart is very honest, very revealing about himself and his book and he leaves no stone unturned by you probably think that he is a rich conservative person with all this money he can make things happen. one you to know if the book tells the story -- and went to a donor and she said no i cannot deal with this right now but he went to your father and said to your father data, i need to borrow $25,000. barham money from your father just to give legs to the

a.c.o.r.n. story. >> guest: by the way, people described me as a media mogul devotee party. as the media mogul ander breitbart three [laughter] >> guest: why storage to get to the tea party, and i have to car payments, one for the minivan and a mortgage. why is that? why is it that arianna huffington gets $315 million for the huffingtonpost.com creating a liberal version site that is a reflection of what already exists in the media yet nobody is knocking on my door when i created the huffingtonpost.com. there is no money to be on the right. i am not doing this for money. i'm doing this because i want to change culture. i really do want to save the world. >> host: you can't just say you created the huffingtonpost.com and leave it out there what you mean?

>> guest: i thought i would leave it as a secret between ariana's and me. >> host: you just put it out there. >> guest: she came to me after the 2004 election cycle and asked me to come up with an idea for a website. i had worked with her even after i met george, a lonely researcher. i credit her for taking me to a slacker to a workaholic. but one day i walked into the office and she's now a liberal. i'm not sure how that happened but locked in the office and i pulled the rip cord and i was no longer in her life accept cocktail parties from time to time. five years later she comes up to me after the election and says to you have an id for website? we've come up with the huffingtonpost.com. i've been working with her since december of six months into it. a month into but i realize i've got to get out of your i don't think i can hang out with all of these guys. they don't like me. the idea behind it for me is more voices.

i don't care if rachel mevel and keith olberman are now there blabbing against conservatives. they are the ones that want be kicked off abc news and they got me kicked off on election night. i don't care, or voices, not less, and i told her at times i said you will be the queen of the left-wing blogosphere and my side will have the best content in the antiyour world. talk-radio will be all over your hollywood friends talking about how bush is equal to hitler. it's a win-win proposition. i stand by it. there is some of my signature mr. d put into that. i thought this is a win-win situation. i still agree have about it. ariana made tens of millions of dollars and i made the seed money that allows me to start my breitbart dhaka, which is the flagship of my new media

operation and i take whatever money i make from one site to create another side of justice will businessman. in just a simple tea party got a who has a mortgage and two car payments. >> host: is at stake? >> guest: i think everything. >> host: what is everything? >> guest: i think that america is a symbol to the rest of the world of freedom and liberty. we have mapped out better than anyone else. our constitution is the amount makarova, and the left doesn't like. if it is libyan it means nothing. it means we are in 2011 and this is going on here and there. if it is anything but it's nothing and the tea party movement is an existential movement. it goes beyond fiscal responsibility. eight groesbeck to the basics. it goes away from professor

michael eric dyson where everything is malleable, everything is gray, and it goes back towards the black-and-white world not where there aren't any but it goes back to when there is a right and wrong. judaeo-christian hannity is a basic template. that's blasphemy because the multiculturalism how do you see that does that mean that you were against hindu? aye bostick. the proof is in the pudding. america, the pillars of capitalism and of the judeo-christian of the and the checks and balances to work of each other america grows so quickly to become what it was in the short period of time and then the cultural marxists came and took our institutions down. they got rid of washington's birthday, lincoln's birthday, they got kids of the college

campus saying i love you, thank you for buying me a stereo. by thanksgiving the first semester why are we having thanksgiving, mom and dad you were in the prisoner of the native american. that is what the left is in this country into one of the critical feria and above salles linscott transfer and the fear read into the street level. political fury is tearing down the culture just criticizing. sarah palin is bad. george bush's bad. the war is bad. barack obama won the presidency after four years of the left are doing that the war is wrong. the war is wrong. it's critical theory. it doesn't matter that once they got in the didn't stop the war. it was an effective strategy of the community organizing and now that he's in the war access and

they are moving towards the utopia. >> host: i love when you talk in the book about seóul pinsky giving his order on how to win. your success is a reaction. you cannot go beyond your constituency you have to go back to where they are and be humble. all of those fauzi things you talk about and use and he was a genius and worked on it was effective. >> guest: and it was entertaining to read that is a really good read and that is why this day i looked at the people who are motivated and helped to craft the into the person million which is the hybrid of journalism and a provocateur and sometimes even an entertainer. i look at hunter thompson and those people were granted wide by the left to become hybrids of journalism and the truth telling entertainment but when a person like andrew breitbart, no, you

must exist in the box we give you. you are only allowed to do this and you must put your conservative while you do it. i'm not king to allow the left to define me to tell me what fox could be and i hope the people who are conservatives and the women who are conservatives are inspired to realize we have a once in a lifetime opportunity to take on our oppressors. there are oppressors. the united states of america you have a right to be a conservative you are a black. you know longer have the democratic party has the right to press you until you you do not have the right to think freely in the united states. >> host: i would be remiss in the last eight minutes of this and i appreciate you writing the book, what do you say to those kids at tulane university south carolina state harvard, yale, university tennessee who are

still lacking and being manipulated and used for not making the most of their college education and one day they will wake up and say i regret this. what do you say? >> guest: i do. as a matter of fact i've got to say that. i go to the young americans foundation, which for republicans and i beg people to keep your college campus, and if provocateur. you're either a little classmates are going to like you and going to put on a show for you. i want to tell them the story of what happened to me and how i had my awakening and this is the most exciting time in the world. i didn't have the internet. you have the ability to change history. >> host: that's not willing talking about. don't waste your education. don't allow yourself to be manipulated and brainwashed. >> guest: that's fine telling you is the video cameras are to be turned on. you know longer have the ability now to be in a math class telling your students that sarah

palin is a dillinger last or going off topic to indoctrinate kids. they now have the ability if you don't like what your teacher is doing and you think your teacher is going off curriculum that you think that your teacher is trying to turn you into a marxist, there is nothing wrong with the transparency of the media because i guarantee that even if this is a fifth grade teacher in social studies in an empire in riverside california, you get the video of that teacher abusing the child's mind, that is news media and i guarantee that school district is going to be in a deep amount of trouble. we need to hold the academic world and told the teachers accountable for what they've been doing for too long. >> host: it's obvious you are a decent guy and you wrote this

book and poured your heart and soul into this book. you have a chance talking to millions of people what is it you would like them to know about you, andrew breitbart? >> guest: you just said it, then my sincere about this and i'm not a lawyer i do disagree sacrifice. i helped. i went into cpac when people were saying they don't want to be part and going to throw a party for these guys. i told the republican establishment. obviously the biggest myth is that it's racist. i believe it's black people who feel inside the inner city or wherever they live there simply

to walk to the tea party and sat among people, be an actor, you know how to act, go out there and shake people's hands. if you're skeptical of them, go out there and ask questions. that's what i want. >> host: they want to tell them who they are, they don't of -- >> guest: what i want more than anything, this is my legacy, i dedicated the book after clarence thomas, ginny thomas came up to me and i've told this story more times, i told it to everybody. i was at an event in washington and i didn't know who attacked me on the shoulder she told me who she was and i couldn't deal with -- its huge. you have no idea what that man

meant to me, you know, what he had when he went through that. and i've gone through the and she said i wanted to bring black people back to slavery on national tv aired not one journalist challenged her on that when this is my life's most important thing is to do something that no stupid white person would ever think to do and that's stand up to jesse jackson and al sharpton and say enough and to stand up to these people who prey upon people in need, people like the ann jones. i can't think of anything more cynical of the world and what dan jones has done with his education. this guy graduated from yale and what did he do? went to the inner city in oakland california to teach the people in need how to fish. no, he organized around the cenacle proposition.

but when jamal is on her death row in pennsylvania because he killed a white cop or didn't kill a white cop, the community organizing around the rage over a cop killer is as cynical as you can get and he's used the hucksters come to rise to the ranks to become the next al sharpton. l sharpton has a history of bloodshed in the name of his own opportunity and white people in the country are scared to death to be called a racist because they know they are going to be called a racist. i'm only have one life to live. i have four children. i want to leave a better country for them. i have looked up into the sky and i said i want something to do that is in a shallow, that's hollywood sitcom crap and the clarence thomas thing has been my guiding light throughout this

entire year think. and you know, the media also didn't report niger and mali invited me to be the masters their money to the core converse of the racially qualities martin luther king dinner. they are paying attention to what i'm doing. the mainstream media wants to read more because they are afraid i'm going to be the piper who finds black conservatives of every tea party -- >> host: one minute, tell us to the media matters are. [laughter] >> guest: media matters is a george soros founded john podesta lead organization that isolates conservative media that isolates fox news and andrew breitbart and all of his websites and millions of dollars a year transcribing channel 3 60 of fox news analyze every single person the right.

issues press releases to every single news room saying ignore this man. ignore this man. ignore this man. >> host: if that tells you -- >> guest: it's the highlight of -- anyone that knows me if you follow me on how to order, andrewbreitbart one word you will see a man that is obsessed with to draw attention from media matters and what they are doing and how easily this and i am having the time of my life. >> host: just like when a.c.o.r.n. decided to sue you. he said my god. >> guest: bring it on. bring it on. i like the fight. i'm not sure if you can tell. >> host: i must tell you i really wish you well. i encourage people to go out and buy andrew breitbart's book, it is "righteous indignation." isn't it? >> guest: yes, it is. >> host: what is righteous indignat