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>> host: we all have our mixed emotions, and when i finally received the book, "righteous indignation" i must say i can't know what to x. it's a book that really impacted me and brought to realization in my own life that i write about that i

experience and others experienced. it's a book i strongly recommend. i do not know him, and this is our first encointer. this is an extremely strong piece of work i recommend you read, and you'll understand why as you watch the hour. andrew, welcome to the show. >> guest: pleasure. >> you grew up, talk about that moment in your life. >> guest: there's david who went from the left to the right, and he did so in an incredibly deep fashion. while i was the shallowist form of the liberal that you could possibly be, i grew up in the east side of los angeles and i went to three or four movies a week, went out with my friends, went to a prop school, -- prep school, and no point in

that experience in los angeles where the executives of hollywood studios live, and actors and such, people within the industry, at no point during that period of time did i hear conservative thought. at no point did i have any opportunity to become anything other than liberal, so i considered myself a default liberal. >> host: let me interrupt you. in your book you talk about one of those life-changing moments. you're watching the justice thomas hearings. what happens to andrew? >> guest: well, i just graduated from college, a place like where it was by barmitzfa. i left feeling empty, but i was open for a spiritual experience. i didn't get it. i felt the exact same way in college where i was an american studies major, and the stuff

that i was reading was incomprehensive. it was a lack of comprehension to a person who doesn't understand a language, and it was demoralizing. i graduated less skilled, less motivated, and -- >> host: robbedded you of stuff? >> guest: it did. my education was a lack of an education, and so i was waiting tabling d tables after graduating. >> host: your friends said why are you doing this? >> guest: it was embarrassing and the most humiliating rewarding time of my life. the people i wanted to impress looked down upon me, and i paid for my own shoes. >> host: your parents cut you off. >> guest: they did. it was brutal, and i dedicated

the book to my father who cut me off and clarence thomas at the same time. both of their guidance in my life coincided. >> host: that's a good segue back to the hearings. >> guest: yeah. i watched the hearings wanting to root for the take down much clarence thomas. i watched the television set, and the tv told me it this was a bad man, and the newspapers said he was a bad man, and i remember eleanor, patricia walking up the steps, these ladies saying we're taking a stand against this guy for sexual harassment. i watched the hearings like a spectator who wanted to see somebody mulled, like lions mulling romans, and i watched day one, watched day two, the entire thing. i went from wanting him to be taken down to wondering where's

the beef? what's going on here? i don't ovens what i'm watching here or the color commentary on the screen saying this is outrageous, an i didn't understand the bumper stickers going by me on the street saying i believe anita. i don't understand what's going on here. everything that i knew, picked up at college, in my american studies, cultural marxist, oppressed are oppressed, white people are always wrong, black people always right, i didn't understand how thee ted kennedy, how howard, joe biden, and a series of white privilege man could sit in judgment of this man the son of grandparents who were sharecroppers who raised him and went to yale law school. he did everything right including allowing for hill to rise through the ranks of the legal profession through jobs

with him where she never had a sexual relationship with him at all. he did nothing untoward, and she was party to this take down, and i did not understand how it could be that these white people of privilege were attacking this black man in this historic position while the mainstream media took him down or the naacp and the urban league and other black liberal leaders sat and seemed to reel lish this take down. >> host: who was your mentor? we'll get to the mentor later who was brutally murdered, and you had this mentor, and it was along that time that you started questioning then the indoctrine nation. >> guest: the smartest person i met was a guy named mike. i was delivering pizza in high school. he was different, alternative, the smartest guy i knew. hindsight, not the most ethical

guy. he took the sates for my friends and got them 1600s. the smartest guy you could meet. he dropped out of uc santa barbara. while i was going to college, he was floundering and doing drugs. he was taking me to alternative bookstores to read about left wing ideas. he very much was into the class struggle, and when i started to have these ideas, when i started to getmy job, aspiring to be an intellect, trying to understand the world view, embracing the struggle, at a certain point my dad said something that nobody told him. you need to get a job. you need to clean up, get your act together. you need to stop doing drugs, and so there was a certain point i started to challenge my mentor. it's not that i felt i was an intellect and i was able to beat him at the game of sat scores.

i was 400 points below him on that level, but i gained the self-confidence and self-respect to call him out on misbehavior, and i moved away from this guy and got a phone call as i was moving towards independence away from this victimology that dominated this guy's consciousness, and i got a phone call he was murdered in a hotel room in los angeles, and i imagine it was darg a drug deal that went bad. to this die i think about how i never cried about that, that, -- >> host: you know, but, think about your parents, your story, the humiliation, and how you had to negotiate with the professor to give you a higher grade so you could graduate because you realized if you didn't graduate, much more of your life would be loss, but then a friend of yours

at yale who was very bright called and said, andrew, i got the perfect job for you. tell us about that. >> guest: he was from harvard, an astrophysics major who always cared for me. a -- he always knew i was not the a-student, but the class clown and meant well, you know? that's how i skirted around my add and could maintain my place in an elite prep academy. i knew i was not going to an elite academy. i department want to -- didn't want to leave my friends though. seth knew my burden. >> host: you would visit him? >> guest: he visited me. he said we need to go on a walk. he took me on a walk around the street and he said, this is when i was utterly wayward, and he said i've seen your future.

it's this thing called the internet. it works the way your brain works. at that point i had been diagnosed with all the a.d.d., and i tried rid lin at the time, but hated it. i wanted to conform to the work brace where people have to work in cube calls, and i knew i couldn't do that. i wanted to drive around l.a. listening to talk radio or music. >> host: you started listening to rush limbaugh. >> guest: he told me i saw the internet, and still to this day i think there's something too weird about that because he's right. the internet does work the way my brain works. >> host: you explain how very difficult and arcane it was during the time and how you had to figure out and how slow it was, and then you had another epiphany, and during that

epiphany, another lull of blessings dropped your way. you received a call from the huffington post. >> guest: here's what happened. i actually was driving down i was driving down the street, and i'm not the most religious person. you heard my religious experience earlier, and i looked up to the sky and i said, god, please give me something to motivate me. i don't want to work in hollywood. i don't like it. i need a mission in life, and the internet coincided with meeting matt drudge, okay? i meet matt drudge almost right away, and i met him, and he was folding tee shirts at cbs at the time. i heard his world view, heard how he felt about the media, heard how he felt in 1995 about

the internet. he left the place, drove off in like an old beat up hyundai, the manager at the cbs gift shop, and i said to my wife, that's a media visionary who will change the world. >> host: and he was your hero. you know, i want to go back and forth between the early years and so many things that you write because owe know, it's interesting when you read works and when you're also in media, and you are familiar with the same story, and you read the facts on a person's books, you know the person is telling the truth and what he's talking about. one of the things i like to spend quality time talking about which was talked about eloquently in your book is how marxism and others, the germans who had to exit nazi germany, who had to flee, how they came to the united states, how they were able to maneuver through

education, able to win praise from "time," people that you talked about in great detail who learned how to describe this message, make it tollerble for people. tell us about that. it's an absolutely astounding piece of work by you. >> guest: uh-huh. i was an american studies major, and i looked at those books when i got -- that i didn't completely read when i was at college. that's why i had to convince teachers to up my grades. i remember sitting in the classes thinking what is she talking about? what is this professor talking about? it didn't make sense to me. it didn't ring true in my bones. when i got a survey in the mail asking me to grade my american studies degree, i started to read the books, and i started to look up the names of those people, and i started to find out they were part of this group called the frankfort school.

it sounds weird to talk about the frankfort school and most people never heard of the school, but the frankfort school i believe are the origins of the mess we find ourselves in our culture right now. they are the ultimately the architects of political correctness. they are the architects of multiculturism, the architects of the destruction of american culture as we know it. the ones that said e plurb is wrong and they straited people by race and pitted people. up stead of the old -- instead of the old argument of the haves versus the have-notes and the pes cants fighting off attacks. >> host: you explained it deeper in the fact that you already had a segment of people in the country, american blacks, who felt disenfranchised, felt

no love or loyalty to the country because they were treated like slaves, and how they could come and raise them up, use their angst against this country to become an ally and even women from the suffrage to help the movement. >> guest: that's what they did. i was about to tell you that they translitted economic marxism to culture marxism to take advantage of black people who had been dispossessed, treated miserably and put them against the white establishment. they did so with the female establishment. they pit male versus female, black versus white, this multiculturallist model turning academia into post structure that you see. when your kid goes to school, they can have a queer studies degree. it's the building up to the vick

-- victimology, a way for gays to believe their path in life is to fight the establishment because the establishment is out to keep you down. they do it with blacks. they do it with hispanics. i'm telling you it runs so contrary to what's in the core of what i am as a human being, and that's why i think the clarence thomas hearings for so instrumental to me because my entire sense of right -- rightness was based on the inquickties i saw in societies. when i discovered that cultural left what was not interested in creating equality in this country, that it wanted to use, that itmented to pit -- it wanted to put blacks against whites in order to continue to climb, to get political power in this country, it was

demoralizing to say the least, but once i figured it out, i decided to hell with it. that drive on the boulevard that i said i wanted a mission in life, this is my goal in life. i want to destroy the institutional left. i want to make it so black people in this country, hispanics in this country, gays in the country have the freedom to believe in whatever prelim -- political philosophy they want to believe it and the democratic party is not the only place for them. i believe in freedom, individuality, the core of my beliefs, and my fights out there are an attack on the naacp, mainstream media because i want to break down this artificial construct that pits americans against each other. >> host: andrew breitbart has written a fascinating piece of work.

righteous indignation, excuse me while i save the world. another aspect of this book that i just -- it's rivetting, and this aspect you will find to be shocking, painful, and truly disheartening. i remember this situation in washington, d.c. that you write so vividly about where members of the black caucus, don lose and others said they were called inward, and we won't use that word on airways, 11 times. >> guest: 15 times. >> host: thank you for the correction. the mainstream media ran with it. i will tell you this, we had people there, and they said armstrong, it did not happen. that did not happen. i said, no one would just make up that type of lie, and they said, it did not happen. you have said in this book that there are those who are so bent on their agenda, on dividing

america and maintaining the perceived power that they have, that they will absolutely lie and the media will brand this lie as the truth and when they realize it's not, they will never issue an apology or make amends for it. >> guest: this is what is at risk. i've been to 30 tea parties, 90% of them i've been invited my women who pick mep up in suvs and take me into town and to the tea party. the best speakers tend to be black conservatives. >> host: they are not the best because they are black. >> guest: no. there's a reason it is happening. >> host: you have to explain that. >> guest: because of political correctness. the men running for the republican ticket now who are white are poll testing everything that comes out. >> host: the wind. >> guest: i advocate a herman

kaine, allen west -- >> host: out of florida. >> guest: ticket for presidency going after the democratic media. >> host: before we get to there, we've got to talk about -- >> guest: i know, what happened. >> host: the lies, the lies. >> guest: what is at stake here is that blacks and women are creating the tea party, making it a place that unlike the republican party which is a toxic environment for blacks, and that's the media's job for years, but this is a place for black, women, and hispanics to recreate the country in its original constitution vision, and that is the threat. that is why they had to fight. that's why they had to lie. that's why nancy pelosi -- >> host: these are vicious lies. >> guest: what happened was this. i have to point to the architectture of capitol hill.

there's tunnels between the cannon house building and the capitol, and that is how nancy pelosi travels. that's how she gets to her capitol to vote, but on this day, when 40,000 taxpayers tea party members got out there to say kill the bill, kill the bill -- >> host: what bill? >> guest: obama coir, the day before obamacare, there was a tea party rally, and nancy pelosi orchestrated, guarantee you, it's pretty much undenial when you see what happened, we started to get word out that barney frank was called a negative word to describe a homosexual on twitter. people wrote about it. they wanted to have bad behavior from the tea party. they've never gotten it, but this time they got it, and one time somebody called him the f-word, and then we heard that

black congressmen were called the n-word, and next thing the media picks up on it, and after two years of trying to find a racist incident or a bad incident -- >> host: they created one. >> guest: they created one. >> host: i want to say this, not to interrupt you, but andrew, your character and sincerity about this offered members of the congressional black caucus $100,000 -- $100,000 if they could prove in any instance they were called the n-word. >> guest: once, not 15 times. just once. >> host: what happens? they ignored your plea. >> guest: here's the thing. here's what they were trying to do. jesse jackson j.r. was walking through the crowd trying to get someone to say something. they could have walked underneath the most unpopular members of the caucus walked through the crowd hoping to inspire a tea party to insight

something. how can i prove this? nancy pelosi an hour after the alleged event where the n-word was hurled, that's where the congressman thought he was going to be hit by rocks. nancy pelosi walked through the same unsecure grounds with a massive gavel that was about 10 times the size of a gavel with a grin on her face that was ear-to-ear. she wanted people to yell to her. she could have walked underneath. they were looking to insight the crowd. sheila jackson lee was giving a sign from the building. they were trying to get the moment, and they didn't get it. here's what congressman carson said. it's on video. i was talking down the cannon house steps, walking out of cannon, and a mob of 400 people surrounded us. people started to hurl the n-word 15 times, he says, 15

times, 15 people, kill the bill, n-word he said. kill the bill, n-word, he said. it was a page out of a time machine. the police saw we were imperil, and the police saw us and took us out of safety. there's no police report that this happened. there is no police person. there is no audio of the 400 people coming forward saying they heard it. one person could have been there who was a liberal saying i saw it. nobody saw it. conman carson created such an image that it's not what barney frank said, one person said something, but he created an image he described out of a page from a time machine. those are his words. when i heard his description, and i juxtaposed it with what people said around there like your friends said, it didn't happen. it didn't happen. i was so upset that i offered

$100,000, and guess what happened the next day? they shut up. they did not think there was an idiot like me who would take on race, that would -- a white guy, white guys are to sit back and take the racism thing. no, i'm taking this head on for clarence thomas, take this thing head on. this is the battle of my life. >> host: what happened to you during the interview when you sold yourself out because you wanted to be a part of the club? >> guest: this was many years ago. >> host: it happened. >> guest: it did. a friend of mine saw i went for the cheap. why didn't i stand up for what i believed in? it was my first round in the yield ya. >> host: you wanted to be accepted. >> guest: i wanted to be in the club. a friend told me and everybody said you were great, the bill mar people said we want you on again.

i was like, hey, hey, and my friend said, hey, you were great on the show last night. why didn't you stick up for what you believe in? >> host: it hanted you. >> guest: yeah. >> host: this is 2009. >> guest: it was 2004, and they invited me in 2007, 2008. it was the first month of obama. >> host: you went back on. >> guest: when professor michael aaron dyeson, they usually have three panels. they had one panelist. >> host: his job was? >> guest: the cultural marxist in the universities that i'm writing about in this book. >> host: he would not like that you said that about him. >> guest: he didn't. when he started to talk in foreign tongue that standed like the deconstruction of the intellectual deconstruction -- i

remember, oh, my god, that's what i heard in college that i didn't understand. >> host: epiphany. >> guest: yeah, he was caught up in a vernacular that was afraid that bill marr would ask what he just say, and i had no idea. his job there is to make me appear like i'm a racist. his job there was to call rush limbaugh a racist. i'm sitting there thinking to myself, stand up for what you believe in, and i started to fight back, and the crowd started booing me. in fact, it was to the point the second i got a sill billion out, they would boo me. bill had to stop them saying let him finish, let him minish. michael was doing everything he could to enable them. you don't understand the power structures that you're talking about, young man. you don't understand the power

structures and the definition of what racism is. racism is the cultural imposition of the dialect -- i don't know what he was talking about, but racism, racism, racism, and everywhere i go, racism, race itch, racism. racism is the crutch that you guys use. this is -- we're in america. this is un-american. where you are guilty, and you don't have the ability to prove it. >> host: are you trying to convey to our listeners who are like i am and about this discussion that it's only black men that play this race game, play this card, put people to a phren city and just tell the lies? is there a monopoly on this? >> guest: no, bill sits back and enjoys it and plays ave it because that gets, you know, white guilt as shelby stehle will talk to you about is played

by the liberal black community, and the people who will tell you about this the most are black conservatives that go, yeah, and guess what we are? we're the uncle toms. everybody is in their place. >> host: here's what people -- do not understand in this discussion today. people lie. they tell great lies. many people are hurt sometimes. people die. why would a media, like nbc, cbs, the "new york times," the "washington post," the "l.a. times" why are they come police sit enablers in this very dangerous process? >> guest: it is, it's putting people against each other. the congressional black caucus acquisitions last summer. i was like don't do this. we can't afford this. we need to be united as a country. why does the media go along with this? >> host: why don't think put

them to task and say it's wrong and condemn it? >> guest: they won't. i call it in the book, and i'm not trying to be cute here, but this is what i got from the clarence thomas hearings. why did the naacp sit on its hands? why did dan rather, tom brokaw and thomas jennings play ball with this take down of clarence thomas? i call it the democratic media complex. a year later after clarence thomas, bill clinton was named the standard bearer of the democratic party when a year before they told us a very low threshold of sexual harassment, and then bill clinton's behavior in the workplace was deplorable by now liberal -- >> host: they saved him. >> guest: they came to his rescue and admitted they did it for abortion politics. they admit it now. that's they went after --

went after clarence thomas. >> host: you said they found an opening, and in fact, engaged in a conversation and ma manipulating the american people on what sex is and it's not about sex, but the power of the structures. >> guest: it was about the power structure in the workplace that you just don't understand what a woman is like in a workplace. it was the same stuff that the professor was talking about. it's the same stuff that was taught in the 1940s, the 1950s, a bunch of european gentlemen cultural marxist who fled nazi germany and italy to come to places at southern california in the height of the golden age and they were depressed because they saw consumerism, and their desires to create a serious

utopia, and economic utopia where hinders and hampered by what they saw was shallow consumerism, and they devised of a political cultural marxist pathway not aiming at the politics, but the culture. they told those to go to the college campus, go to hollywood. they took over hollywood and the mainstream media and devised a false pretense called objective journalism. they are not objective journalist because if you talk to a journalist over a cocktail in washington or in new york city, you get down to the nitty nitty-gritty of why the people got into journalism in the first place, and there's two answers they give you, social justice, economic equality. their motivations were the civil rights movement, and so liberal white journalists are absolutely invested in the 1960s urban

league, jesse jackson, naacp narrative and conservative black people need to shut up. >> host: are you telling me, telling us, that this only exists with liberals and liberal establishment? are you? >> guest: political correctness or control? >> host: however you want to answer it. you know what i'm asking. >> guest: here's what i enjoy -- >> host: are you saying it doesn't exist with conservatives? >> guest: i really do believe that that's the case. i believe that rush limbaugh, who they hate, is a guy not trying to keep anybody down, and i believe that rush limbaugh does something that the "new york times" writers and "washington post" writers. he says i'm biased, coming to you with my point of view, and i'm not biased.

i'm biased. i'm a conservative, and that's the difference between conservatives and liberals in the media. liberals use their objectivity as their weaponry in order to cause people like me, andrew breitbart to default liberal. i thought i was getting the truth. >> host: you said something else that i thought it was an excellent point about transparency. you say the one things liberals do very well, like obama, you said when obama says this is who i am, i smoked a little, did a little this, hung out with bad characters, hey, that's my life story. it took the winds out of the says of got-you politics, and you talked what republicans should do is disclose the honest and don't high what it is. >> guest: and go on to msnbc, let it hang out a little.

all this poll testing, it's why the left is able to, you know, control the narrative in a country that according to gallop is a two to one ratio of conservative to liberal, but turn on the television set, read the "washington post," it's all the liberal narrative and all the conservatives are afraid of their shadows, afraid that their past is going to come a. they are afraid that somebody's not going to like them or not invite them back on a certain comedy show. >> host: mark fuelly as an example. >> guest: he was isolated the same reason why somebody is black is isolated because he was gay an a conservative. i say this. i supported, and i've gotten into trouble with this within some parts of the conservative movement and i supported go proud, a gay conservative organization. if being conservative means there can't be a gay

conservative, i'm not a conservative. mark was targeted the way a liberal causes a gay man or a gay man wouldn't be because the organized left has decided that it's job is to police its own, to target gay conservatives to humiliate them as much as humanly possible as a form of political extortion. if you don't believe the way we believe, we're going to ruin your life. >> host: you know, there's so much to this man, andrew breitbart, righteous indignation, exes mu while i save the world, and i don't know if people know that now you're the genius of the interpret among those you admire so much, you were able to force the media to address acorn's corruption, you brought to life jones and other stories, and you did not

do it because you had an angst, you wanted to grind an ax against these people. you felt there was wrong doing, serious wrong doing, and it should be reported. >> guest: well, absolutely. well, james and hannah came to me with a prepackaged -- >> host: who are they? >> guest: the acorn undercover work. james is the guy who does these types of things, and hannah was the person who came up with this particular idea and played the prostitute. i didn't target acorn. everybody says i targeted acorn, but when they came to me with a bow -- a video with a bow on top, and they asked is this newsworthy? the answer -- >> host: you thought they could be setting you up. you were cautious. >> guest: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, i was a little worried. when a person tells you they do

undercover video, you worry they are doing undercover video. i will say at first i was worried, but i started to see what we had here which was multiple, multiple outlets of acorn to a pimp and a prostitute setting up a brafl for 14-year-old girls and they had service with a smile. i said, of course, this is news because if the same premise were to be done at the heritage foundation, a conservative foundation here in washington, do you think that cay disenfranchised couric would say this is not news? >> host: how corrupt was acorn? >> guest: very corrupt and the information was hiding in plain sight. the articles had been written, but a picture tells a thousand words, and that's why hollywood is so important. there would be a movie about acorn, by the way, if this were a conservative institution.

the videos were able to illuminate and create a depth of what of already been preachesly written and -- previously written and fallen on deaf ears. it was a shout out to medialand that for $1400, that's how much it cost them for all the offices, for $1400, you could do an investigative process like that. lyla comes for all the parenthood stuff, and how can we get this past the mainstreams barriers? these heros of nude journalist do this for nothing, for nothing. do you know what message that sends? it sends it out to millions of other people, if abc, cbs, and nbc ignore corruption, if they are going to ignore stories that hurt the liberal side where they are not acting as a check and balance against half of our

culture, then the average american can do it him or herself. the more that katie couric rejects the movement, the more the movement is a people's movement. the technology exists. the motivation exists, but what -- >> host: would fox news be so eager to air the video, we have a problem, and we aired it earlier, would they be eager to air this if it was about a conservative group they cared about? >> guest: why would fox news get it in a bow? they would have gone to abc news and in all likelihood gone to hbo and gotten $10 million for the rights to this and turned it into a series. they would be on the covering "rolling stone" and ology that. the left does things differently

and better. >> host: i want to say something. many of you watching this show and may not like what andrew breitbart is saying, but andrew breitbart is honest and reveals about himself in this book, leaving no stones unturned, but you probably think he's some rich conservative person with all this money and makes things happen. i want you to know, and the book tells the story, you have to get the book. i'm urging them to get the book. it's a good read. >> guest: thank you. >> host: you went to a donor who was wealthy and says i cannot do it. you went to your father and said, dad, dad, i need to borrow $25,000. you had to borrow the money from your father just to give legs to the acorn story. > guest: yeah. >> host: and you paid your father back. >> guest: by the way, people describe me as a media mogul at the tea parties.

ladies and gentlemen, media mogul. i think to myself i flew in steerage in the boat, i have two car payments, and a mortgage, why is it -- why is it that arianna huffington gets $31 a million for creating a liberal version, a liberal blog site that is a reflection of what exists in the media, but nobody knocks down my doors when i created the huffington post. there's no money on the right. i am not doing this for money. i'm doing this because i want to change culture. i really do want to save the world. >> host: you just cannot say you created the huffington post and leave it out there unless you explain that. what do you mean you created the huffington post? >> guest: it's a screat. >> host: you put it out there, man. you have to explain it. >> guest: she came it me after

the 2004 election cycle. she want website. i worked with her after meeting drudge as a lowly researcher. i credit her from faking -- taking me to a slacker to a work aholic. i give her credit for that. one day i walk into the office, and she's a liberal. i don't know how that happened. i walked into the office, pulled the rip cord, and i was no longer in her life other than seeing her at parties from time to time. five years later she comes up to me after the election asking any for an idea of the website. we come up with the huffington post. launch it in may, worked since december and a month in i realized i have to get out of here. i can't hang out with the lefties. they don't like me. the idea for me is more voices, not less. i don't care if rachel meadow and keith are blabbering against conservatives. they want me kicked off of abc news, and they got me kicked off

on election night. i don't care. more voice is not less. i said at the time, this is great for you. you are the queen of the left wing blogs, and my side has the best content in the entire world, talk radio will be all over your hollywood friends talking about how bush is equal to hitler. it was a win-win proposition. i stand by it. it was some of my signature put into that. i thought this is a win-win situation, and i still agree about it. she made tens of millions of dollars, and i made the seed money that allowed for me to start my breitbart.com, the flag ship of my new media operation and i take what money i make from one site to create a new site. i'm a small businessman, a simple tea party guy with a mortgage and two car payments.

>> host: what is at stake in this war you decided that you have to join? >> guest: i think everything. >> host: what is everything? >> guest: well, i think that america is everything. i think that america is a symbol to the rest of the world of freedom and liberty. we've mapped it out better than anyone else. our constitution is the modern magna carta, and i think the left doesn't like it. it thinks of it as a living constitution. if it's living, it's nothing. it means we're in 2011 and this is going on here and there. anything that we want. if it's anything, then it's nothing, and the tea party movement is an existential movement going beyond fiscal responsibility. it goes back to the basics. it goes away from professor michael erick where everything is mall eweble and agree. it goes back to the black and white world, not where there are not any grays, but goes to where

there is a right and wrong and going back to where judeo-christianity is the basic template for what the cultures stands for. that's -- that's blasphemy to the left because they are multiculture believes how dare you say that. are you against hinduism? listen to me, i'm agnostic, but the proof is in the pudding. america, the pillar of capitalism, the pillar of christianity, checks and balances work off of each other. america rose quickly to become what it was in a short period of time, and then the culture marxist came in, took the institutions down, got rid of washington's and lincoln's birthdays, got kids at their college campus saying, mom, i love you, thank you for buying me a radio. >> host: instead of thanking god. >> guest: right. by thanksgiving in the first

semester, why thanksgiving, mom and dad? we were an oppressor of the native american. that's what the left is in the country. in the book you learn theory, and learn about how to have critical theory that is tearing down our culture just cite sizing saying palin is bad, bush is bad, the war is bad, barak obama won the presidency after four years of the left arguing that the war is wrong, the war is wrong, the war is wrong. it's theory. it doesn't matter that once they got in that they didn't stop the wars. it was an effective strategy of community organizing and community chanting to stop the war, get barak obama in. now that he's in, the war exists, and they are moving towards utopia. >> host: i love about when you talk in your book the corp.ers

on how -- corners on how to win. your success is a reaction of your enemies. you cannot go beyond your constituency. you have to be humble. you have to be warm. all those things you talk about in the book, and you say the guy was a genius, and it worked. he was effective. >> guest: and he was intertaping. that is a really -- entertaining, and that's a really good readment i look at the people who motivated me and helped to craft me into the person i am which is a high bred of journal -- hybred and journalism. i look at abbey hoffman and they were granted wide births by the left to become hybreds of journalism and truth telling entertaining. when a person like breitbart or james o'keefe comes about, no, you have to be in the box we give you, do this, and put you are a conservative.

well, i'm not going to allow the left to define me in what box to be in. i hope black and hispanics and women who are conservatives realize we have a once in a lifetime opportunity to take on our oppressors, there our o prosessers in the united states of network, you have right to be a conservative. if you're a black, you don't have the democratic party with the right to oppress you telling you you don't have the right to think freely in the united states of america. >> host: i would be remiss in the last eight minutes of this wonderful discussion, and i appreciate you writing the book. what do you say to those kids at two lane south carolina state, howard, harvard, yale, university of tennessee, who are slacking, who are being ma manipulated, used, not making the most of our college education a one day wakes up saying i regret this. what do you tell them?

>> guest: as a matter of fact, i'm glad you said that. i 2k3w0 to the young america's foundation, college republicans, i beg people to take me to your campus. i'm provok story. your liberal classmates will like me. i'll put on a show. i want to tell the story of me and my awakening and tell them this. this is the most exciting time in the world. you have the ability to change history. >> host: that's not what i'm talking about. don't waste your education. don't waste your time in college on nonsense. don't allow yourself to be manipulated and brainwashed. >> guest: those video cameras are to be turned on the professor. you no longer have the ability now, teacher, to be in a math class telling your students that bush is hitler, that palin is a do dominionist. they now have the ability. if you don't like what your

teacher is doing and think your teacher is going off curriculum, if you think your teacher is trying to turn you into a marxist, there's nothing wrong with the transparency of new media because i guarantee you that even if it's a 5th grade teacher in social studies in inland empire in riferside, california, you get that video of a teacher abusing the child's mind, that's new media, and i guarantee you that school district will be in a deep amount of trouble. we need to hold the academic world, we need to hold the teachers accountable for what they have been doing unchecked for too long. >> host: you know, it is obvious to me that you are a decent guy. you are very sincere, mean well, and you really wrote this book -- you really poured your heart and soul into this book. you have a chance to talk to millions of people, what is it that you want them to know about

you, andrew breitbart? >> guest: well, you just said it. i'm sincere about this. >> host: yes, you are. >> guest: i'm not a liar. i do this at great sacrifice and risk. >> host: you're not a tool of the right. >> guest: i'm not. in fact, i say it, i help go-proud. i went into cpac saying i don't want to be a part of that if go proud is there. i'm going to throw a party for these guys. i'm a tea party guy. >> host: what's the biggest myth of the tea party? >> guest: b obviously the biggest myth is that it's racest. >> host: it's not. >> guest: no. i believe that if black people who feel inside of the inner city or wherever they live, if they were just simply to walk to a tea party and just sit amongst people, be an actor, shake people's hands.

if you are skeptical about them, ask questions of them. >> host: the left says no. >> guest: they don't want to. >> host: that's their worse nightmare. >> guest: right. >> host: they want to tell them who they are. >> guest: that's what i want more than anything. this is my legaciment i dedicated that book to clarence thomas. i meant jenni thomas. she came up to me. i told this story more times -- i told it to everybody, and i was at an event in washington, and i didn't know who this lady who was tapped me on the shoulder, and she just told me who she was, and it freaked -- i couldn't deal with the -- it was -- it's huge. you have no idea what that man, you know, meant to me, you know, the stoicism he had going through that, and, you know, i've gone through the sherrod

thing, and she said i wanted to bring black people back to slavery on national tv, and not one journalist challenged her on that when this is my life's most important thing is to do something that no stupid white person would ever think to do, and stand up to jesse jackson and al sharpton and say enough and to stand up to these people who prey upon people in need, people like van jones. i can't think of anything more sip call than what van jones did with his education. graduated from yale and went to the inner city in oakland, california and did he teach the people in need how to fish? no. he organized a round cynical proposition that jamal is on death row in pennsylvania because he killed a white cop or he didn't kill a white cop.

that forms the rage of community organizing around the rage over a cop killer is as cynical as you can get and used this to rise through the ranks to become the next al sharpton. al sharpton has the history of bloodshed in the name of his own opportunity, and white people in the country are scared to death of being called a racist because they know they are going to be called a racist. i only have one life to live. i have four children. i want to leave a better country for them. i have -- i looked up into the sky, and i said i want something to do that is not shallow, that is not hollywood sitcom crap, and the clarence thomas thing has been by guiding light throughout this entire thing, and, you know, the media didn't report that niger and roy invited me tore the master of

ceremonies to core the congress of racial equalities martin luther king dinner. they pay attention to what i'm doing. the mainstream media ignores it because they are afraid i'm going to be the piper who finds black conservatives at every tea party, at -- >> host: one minute. who are media matters? >> guest: oh, media matters is a george funded, john pedesta led organization that isolates conservative media, it isolates fox news, andrew breitbart and all of his websites, spends millions of dollars a year transcribing channel 360 on fox news, analyzes every single person that writes on my sites, issues press releases saying ignore this man. ignore this man. ignore this man. >> host: you should be

honored. it sells you your sees -- tells you your success. >> guest: if you follow me on twitter, you will see one man who has chosen to obsess on to draw attention to media matters and what they are doing and how evil it is, and i'm having the time of my life. >> host: just like when acorn decided to sue you. >> guest: bring it on. bring it on. bring it on. i liking the fight. i'm not sure if you can tell. >> host: i must tell you. i really wish you well. i really want to encourage people to go out and buy andrew breitbart's book. it is right righteous indignation, suspect -- isn't it? >> guest: yes. it's telling the mainstream media that we are motivated by negative things, that your critical theory against us that the reason we're scared that

we're only lashing out because we're scared, we're racist and all those things. now, it's not just leftists in this country who want to save the world. rightist center people and tea party people and people who are not part of the media also want to save the world, and that's what this book is about. >> host: do we have a chains of saving it? >> guest: i think so. that's what i'm trying to do. >> host: listen, it's been my pleasure today. my honor. >> guest: thank you. >> guest: -- >> host: you wrote the book, and empowered by, my battery is recharged, i'm feeling charged. i talk about this book wherever i go. you know, you spoke for me and many other people in the world that can relate to what you've said. you are like for so many people. we wish you much success. thanks for writing the book. >> guest: thank you. >>