selection of the conservative book club, and it's available in book sellers wherever you currently purchase your books. >> this event puz part of the 2011 los angeles times festival of books, and to find out more visit events.election a times.com slash festival of books. >> coming up next, booktv presents "after words," an hourlong program where we invite guest hosts to interview authors. this week, blogger andrew breitbart on his latest book, "righteous indignation. " he discusses his battle against members of the mainstream media. he discusses the liberal bias he

he -- says pervades local media. ... >> host: what to expect but you my tell the -- must tell you someone who reads two books a week, it impacted me. it brought to realization in ply own life that i write about, that i've experienced and others have experienced.

this is really a book that i'd strongly recommend. this is the first time i met andrew breitbart for the first time and this is our first encounter but i must tell you this is an incredible piece of work that i strongly recommend for you to read. andrew, welcome to the show. >> guest: pleasure. >> host: you grew up as a liberal. your mentors were liberal. talk about that moment in your life? >> guest: well, there's the david horowitz apostate from the left. well, i was the shallowest liberal as you possibly could be. i grew up on the los angeles and my high school constituted about going to two or three movies a week, going out with my friends, watching television, going to a prep school and then going on to tulane university. at no point in that entire

experience in west los angeles where the executives in holy -- you know, executives of hollywood studios live and actors and such and people in the industry -- at no point during that period of time did i hear conservative thought and at no point did i have the opportunity to become anything other than liberal so i considered myself a default liberal. >> host: let me interrupt you, in your book talk about one of those life-changing moments. you're watching the justice thomas/anita hill hearing. what happens to andrew breitbart? >> guest: well, i just graduated from college, a place where -- it was like my bar mitzvah i thought i would learn an education about judaism but i left feeling very empty and i learned how to chant. i was open for a spiritual sxeerngs and i didn't get it. i felt the exact same way in college where i was an american studies major. and the stuff that i was reading

was incomprehensible. and it was jargon. it was noam chomsky-like to a person who doesn't understand that language. and it was demoralizing. and i graduated less skilled, less motivated and i was a waiter. >> host: you robbed yourself? >> guest: i did. my education was a lack of an education and so i was waiting tables right after graduating college, and i finished my lunch shift and i'd go home -- >> host: and your friends would say why are you doing isn't just you're so much better than this. >> guest: it was embarrassing and humiliating and was it the best thing of having the humiliation and to work and grind it and the people i was always looking up to and trying to impress were looking down on me and i started to pay for my own -- >> host: but your parents cut you off. >> guest: my parents cut me off and it was brutal and that's why

i dedicated my book my father who cut me off and clarence thomas at the same time. both of their guidance in my life coincided -- >> host: that's a good segue back to the hearing. >> guest: well, i went from my wait job wanting to root for the takedown of clarence thomas and i was watching the television set and they told me he was a bad man and i remember eleanor schnell and patricia schroeder and walking up this guy -- we're going to take a stand on this guy for sexual harassment, serial sexual harassment, so i watched these hearings like a spectator who wanted to see mauled, you know, lions mauling a roman. i went from him wanting to be

taken down, you know, where's the beef? you know, i don't understand what i'm watching here? i don't understand the color commentary on the screen where they say oh, this is outrageous and i didn't understand the bumper stickers that were going by me on the streets saying "i believe anita. i believe anita what? what's going on here. i don't understand what's going on here. everything that i knew, everything that i picked up at college in my american studies karl marxist and black people are always right and white people are always wrong. i didn't understand how ted kennedy -- the ted kennedy of chappaquiddick fame, how howard metsen bomb, joe biden is a series of white privileged men who could sit here with a series of men -- he did everything right including allowing for anita hill to rise through the ranks of the legal profession,

through jobs with him where she never had a sexual relationship with him at all. he did nothing untoward and she was party to this takedown, and i did not understand how it could be that these white people of privilege were attacking this black man who was in this historic position while the mainstream media sat -- took him down and the naacp and the urban league and other black liberal leaders sat and seemed to relish this takedown. >> host: who were your mentors -- you had this mentor at this time who we'll get to later who's brutally murdered and you didn't cry for him and you had this mentor and it was along this time that you started questioning the indoctrination. >> guest: the smartest person i ever met was this guy named mike. i was delivering pizza in high school and he was just different. he was alternative. and he was the smartest guy i ever knew. in hindsight he wasn't the most ethical guy.

he took the s.a.t.'s for bunch of my friends and got them 1600s and he was the smartest guy you could ever meet and hdrugs. during the period of time that he was my mentor, he was taking me to alternative bookstores to read about left wing ideas. you know, he very much was into the class struggle. and when i started to have these epiphanies, when i started to get my job -- as i was aspiring to be an intellect and as i was trying to understand his world view and embrace the struggle at a certain point my dad said something that nobody told him. you need to get a job. you need to clean up. you need to get your act together. you need to stop doing drugs and so there was a certain point where i started to challenge my meantor. it wasn't that i felt that i was an intellect and that i was able to beat him at the game of, you know, s.a.t. scores.

i still was about 400 points below him on that level. but i started to gain the self-confidence and the self-respect that i could call him out on his misbehavior. and i just started to move away from this guy and i got a call once as i was starting to move to independence and away from this victimology frtsz guy and i got a story that he was murdered at a hotel room in los angeles and i imagine it was during a drug deal that went bad. and to this day i think how i've never cried about that. >> host: you know, but think about your parents and about your story of the humiliation and how you had to negotiate with the professor to get you a higher grade so you could graduate and you realized you did not graduation and much more of your life would be lost and a friend of yours at yale was very

bright and said, andrew breitbart, i've got the perfect job for you. >> guest: yeah. >> host: tell us about that. >> guest: he was from harvard. he was an astrophysics major who always cared for me. and he knew in prep school that i was not the a student and that i was the class clown and i meant well. that's how i skirted around my add and was able to maintain my place in an elite prep academy where everybody was stanford, princeton, harvard berb do you understand. i knew that wasn't me. seth knew my burden. seth knew -- >> host: but you would visit him. >> guest: he visited me and he said, i need to take you on a walk. i said, no, just sit down. he said, i need to take you on a walk and this was when i was utterly way word, and he said i've seen your future. it's this thing called the

internet. it works the way your brain works and at that point i had been diagnosed with adult add and i had tried ritalin for about a month and i hated it. i felt hideous about it. i was trying to figure out how i could conform to the workplace where people have to work in cubicles, and i knew i couldn't do that. i'd rather drive around l.a. listening to talk radio or music -- >> host: oh, but you started listening to rush limbaugh. >> guest: uh-huh. anyway, he told me i've seen the internet. i've seen the future, and i still to this day think there's something almost too eery about that because he's right. the internet does work the way that my brain works. >> host: but i explain how very difficult and arcane it was during the time and how you had to figure out and how slow it was, and then you had another epiphany. and then during that epiphany,

another little blessing dropped your way. you received a call from someone that founded the "huffington post," arianna. >> guest: here's what happened. i actually was driving down -- i was driving down the street on wilshire boulevard once and i'm not the most religious person. you heard earlier my religious experience with my bar mitzvah. and i looked up to the sky, and i said, god, please give me something to motivate me. i don't want to work in hollywood. i don't like it. i need a mission in life. and the internet coincided with meeting matt drudge, okay? i meet matt drudge almost right away, and i met him and he was folding t-shirts at cbs at the time. i met him for about four hours, heard his world view, heard what he felt about the media, heard what he felt about 1995, this nascent internet. and he left the place, drove off

in like an old beat up hyundai. he was the manager at the cbs gift shop and i said to my wife, that is a media visionary. he's going to change the world. >> and he was your hero. you know, i want to get -- i want to go back and forth between the early years and some of the things that you write because, you know, it's very interesting when you read someone's work and you're familiar with the media and you read the same story and the facts in the book and again, that person is telling the truth and he knows exactly what he was talking about. i think one of the things -- i'd like for you to spend some quality time what you talked about so eloquently in your book is how marxism and others -- the germans who had to exit nazi, germany, they had to flee and how they were able to come to the united states and maneuver

through education. how they were able to win praise from "time" magazine and saul alinsky who learned how to disguise his message and make it people who really want it. talk about it, because it was an absolutely astounding piece of work by you. >> guest: uh-huh. i was an american studies major at tulane. and i looked at those books when i got that i didn't completely read when i was at college. that's why i had to convince teachers to up my grade. i remember sitting in the classes what is she talking about? what is this professor talking about? it doesn't make sense to me. it didn't ring true in my bones. so when i got a survey in the mail asking me to read my american studies degree and i started to read those books and i started to look up the names of those people and i started to figure out they were part of this group called the frankfurt

school. it sounds weird to talk about the frankfurt school. most people have not heard of the frankfurt school, but the frankfurt school, i believe, are the origins in the mess we find ourselves in our culture right now. they are ultimately the architects of political correctness. they're the architects much multiculturalism. they are the architects of the destruction of american culture as we know it, the ones that said it was wrong. one for many is wrong. they were the ones who separated people by race and pitted people based upon -- instead of the old economic marxist argument of the have's versus the have's not and the class struggle of the peasants fighting off, you know, the owner -- >> host: but you've explained it even deeper which just through my attention in the fact that you already add segment of people in this country, american blacks, who felt disenfranchised. who felt no love or particularly loyalty of the company because

they were treated like slaves and chattel and how they were able to come and raise them up. use their ankst against this country to become sort of an ally and even women from the women's suffrage to help the movement. >> guest: winston-salem that -- well, that's what they did. i was going to tell you they translated economic marxism to cultural marxism to pit -- to take advantage of black people who had been dispossessed and they did that also with the female establishment. they started to pit male versus female. they started to pit black versus white. this multiculturalist model turned academia into the post-structuralism that you see. when your kid now goes to school, they have the opportunity to graduating with a queer studies degree. it's the building up of the victimology an entire canon, an

entire world view for gays to believe that their entire path in life is to fight the establishment because the establishment is out to keep you down. they do it with blacks. they do it with hispanics. and i'm telling you, it runs so contrary to what's in the core of what i am as a human being, and that's why i think that the clarence thomas hearings were so instrumental to me because my entire sense of righteousness, my righteous indignantence going through the inequities that i found in society. and when i discovered that the cultural left was not interested in creating equality in this country, that it wanted to use, that it wanted to pit blacks against whites in order to climb, to get political power in this country, it was demoralizing to say the least. but once i figured it out, i

decided, to hell with it. that drive on wilshire boulevard that i had where i said i want a mission in life, this is my goal in life. i want to destroy the institutional left. i want to make it so that plaque people in this country, hispanics in this country, gays in this country have the freedom to believe in whatever political philosophy they want to believe in. the democratic party is not -- is not the only place for them in this country. i believe in freedom. i believe in individually to the core of my belief and my fights out there are an attack on the naacp, my attacks on the mainstream media are because i want to break down this artificial construct that pits americans against each other. >> andrew breitbart has written a fascinating, and i cannot emphasize it enough, piece of work. "righteous indignation: excuse me, while i save the world."

another aspect of this book that i just -- it's riveting and this aspect you will find to be shocking, painful, and truly disheartening. i remember this situation in washington, d.c., that you write so vividly about where members of the black caucus, john lewis and others said they were called the "n" word and we won't use that word on these airwaves 11 times -- >> guest: 15 times. >> host: 15 times. thank you for the correction. and i will tell you this, we had people there, and they said, armstrong, it had not happen. they said it did not happen. no one would just make up that type of lie, and they said it did not happen. you have said in this book that there are those who are so dead on their agenda, so bent on

dividing america and maintaining the perceived power that they have that they will absolutely lie, and the media will brand this lie as the truth. and when they realize it's not, they will never issue an apology or make amends for it. >> guest: this is what is at risk. i've been to 30 tea parties, 90% of them i've been invited by women like sarah palin and michele bachmann-type people that pick me up in suvs and take me to towns and take me to the tea parties. at those tea parties the best speakers tend to be black conservatives. >> host: but they're not the best speakers because they're black? >> guest: no, there's a reason why these two dynamics are happening. >> host: you have to explain it. >> guest: because men -- because of political correctness have become eunuchs. they are afraid of their shadows. the they are pole testing -- >> host: the wind. >> guest: the i advocate a

herman cain -alan west ticket because it would go straight after what i call -- >> host: before we get to -- before we get to that we've together talk -- the lies, the lies. >> guest: what is at stake here is that blacks and women are -- are creating the tea party, making it a place that unlike the republican party which is a toxic environment for blacks and that's been the media's job for years -- this is a black for black and women and hispanics to recreate this country. that is why they had to fight. that's why they had to lie

>> guest: nancy pelosi orchestrated this, but it's pretty much undeniable when you see what happened. we started to get word out that barney frank was called a negative word to describe a homosexual on twitter. people wrote about it. wow, i can't believe barney frank was called that by these tea party people. they wanted to have bad behavior from the tea party. they've never gotten it. but this time they got it and one time somebody called barney frank the "f" word and then we

heard that black congressmen were called the "n" word and next thing you know, the media picks up on it and after two years of trying to find a racist incident or a bad incident -- >> host: they created one. >> guest: they created one. >> host: and i don't want to interrupt, andrew breitbart, to show his character and sincerity about this, offered members of the black caucus $100,000 if they could prove in any instance where they would call the "n" word. >> guest: once not 15 times. >> host: and what happened? they ignored your plea. $100,00 $100,000. >> guest: jesse jackson was trying to walk in the crowd trying to get a moment to say something. they could have walked -- the most unpopular members of the caucus walked through that crowd hoping to inspire a tea party -- >> host: to incite.

>> guest: how can i prove this. nancy pelosi, an hour after the allegedly event where the "n" word was hurled, that's a place where congressman carlson thought he was going to be hit by rocks. nancy pelosi walked through the same unsecured grounds with a massive gavel that was about 10 times the size of a gavel with a grin on her face that was ear to ear. she wanted people to yell at her. she could have walked underneath. they were looking to incite the crowd. sheila jackson-lee was giving an ob-knoxis v sign and they were trying to get the moment and they didn't get it. here's what the congressman said and it's on video. i was walking down the canon house steps. i was walking out of canon and mob of 400 people surrounded us. people started to hurl the "n" word, 15 times he said.

15 times, 15 people. kill the bill, "n" word he said. kill the bill, "n" word. he said it was a page out of a time machine and then the police saw we were in peril and i'm paraphrasing him and it's pretty much verbatim and the police saw us and took out of safety. there's no mrort that it happened. there is no police person. there is no audio of any of the 400 people coming forward to say that they heard it. one person could have been there who was a liberal saying i saw it. congressman carson created such an image that is not what barney frank, one person said something. he created a vivid image that he described of a page out of a time machine. those are his words. and when i heard his description, and i juxtaposed like your friend said, it didn't happen. it didn't happened. i was so upset i offered

$100,000 and guess what happened next day, they didn't shut up. they didn't think there was an idiot like me who would take on race. a white guy -- white guys are supposed to sit back and take the racism thing. no, i'm going to take this thing head on for clarence thomas. i'm going to take this thing head on. this is the battle for my life. >> host: so what happened to you during the bill mahr in spite of when you sold yourself out because you wanted to be part of the club. >> guest: this was many years ago. >> host: it happened. >> guest: it did. and a friend of mine said i went for the cheap laughs and he said why didn't you stand up for what you believe in. >> host: why didn't you. >> guest: it was my first round in the media. >> host: you wanted to be accepted. >> guest: i wanted to be in the club. and then a friend told me after -- >> host: he called you that night. >> guest: everybody praised me and said you were graded, the bill mahr people and we want to have you back on.

>> host: read the book to get the details. >> guest: and my friend said you were great on the show last night. why didn't you stick up for what you believe in? >> host: you were torn, but this is 2009 they -- >> guest: 2004. and they invited me maybe 2007, 2008. >> host: but that's okay -- >> guest: it was the first month of obama. >> host: and you went back on. >> guest: with michael eric dyson, professional michael dyson who is the embodiment -- i'm telling you it's almost out of a most of. usually they had three panels. they had one panel. >> host: and his job was -- >> guest: professor michael dyson is the cultural marxist in the universities that i'm writing in this book. >> host: he would not say -- >> guest: i actually started to cite the names -- when he started to talk in this foreign tongue, he said the deconinstruction of the bifurcation of the intellectual

deconstruction i remembered oh, my god that's what i heard in college that i didn't understand. >> host: an epiphany. >> guest: he was caught up in a noam chomsky vernacular that i actually was afraid that bill mahr would ask me what he said and his job is there is to make me appear like a racist. his job there was to call rush limbaugh a racist. and i'm sitting there thinking to myself, stand up for what you believe in, and i started to fight back. and the crowd started booing me. in fact, it got to the point where the second i would get a syllable out, they started booing at the beginning of a sentence to the point where bill mahr had to stop them. he said let him finish. let him finish. and michael eric dyson was doing everything to enable -- you don't understand the power structures that you're talking about, young man. you don't power structures and

the definition of what racism is. racism is the cultural imposition of the dialectic. i don't know what he was talking about. but he was racism, racism and everywhere i go, racism, racism, i'm like racism is what you use. this is where in america this is un-american. where you're guilty and you don't even have the ability to prove it. >> host: but are you trying to convey to our listeners who are like i am who are raptured in this discussion that it's black men who play this card, whip people in a frenzy and just tell these lies? >> guest: no. >> host: do they have a monopoly on them? >> guest: no, bill mahr just sits back and enjoys it and plays off of it. white guilt as shelby steele will talk about is played by the

liberal black community and the people who will tell you about this the most are black conservatives. they go, yeah. and guess what we are? we're the uncle tom's. everybody is in their place. >> host: here's what people do not understand in this discussion today. people lie. they tell great lies. many people are hurt. people die. why would a media like nbc, cbs, the "new york times," "the washington post," the "l.a. times" -- why would they be complicit and enablers in this ve very dangerous process. >> guest: it's pitting people against the summer. that's when it was the congressional black caucus executions. i was like don't do this. don't do this. don't pit us against each other. we need to be united as a country. >> host: why won't they take them to task and say this is

wrong and condemn it? >> guest: they won't. i call it in the book and i'm trying to be cutsie here. why did the naacp sit on its hands? why did -- not katie couric but why did dan rather, tom brokaw and peter jennings play ball with this takedown of clarence thomas? i call it the democrat media complex. a year later after clarence thomas, bill clinton was named the standard bearer of the democratic party when a year before they were telling us that a very low threshold of sexual harassment then you have bill clinton whose behavior in the workplace was deplorable by liberal -- now everybody understands. >> host: in your book they came to his rescue and they did it. >> guest: they admit it for abortion politics and they admit it they did it for abortion politics and that's why they went after clarence thomas.

and i called up the -- >> host: no, you said much more in your book. you said they found an opening. in fact, in changing the conversation and manipulating the american people along words what sex is and this is really not about sex. this is not -- >> guest: it's about the powers -- it was about the about the power structure of the workplace. you don't understand what it's like women in the workplace. you don't believe anita. it was the same stuff michael eric dyson was talking about. it's the same stuff noam chomsky was talking about. it was the same stuff that was talked about in the 1940s, 1950s, a bunch of european gentlemen who were cultural marxist. they fled here and nazi germany, and mussolini's italy who came to southern california at the height of the golden age and these men were depressed because what they saw was frivolity and

consumerism and they wanted to create an economic utopia and were hindered and what they saw was shallow consumerism and they devised of a political culture marxist pathway that wasn't aiming straight at the politics but was aiming at the culture. and they told their minions, go to the college campus, go to hollywood. they took over hollywood and they took over the mainstream media. and they devised a false pretense called objective journalism. they're not objective journalists because if you talked with journalists over a cocktail in washington, or in new york city, you get down to the nitty-gritty of why these people got into journalism in the first place and there's two answers they'll give you, social justice, economic equality. their motivations were the civil rights movement. and so liberal white journalists are absolutely invested in the

1960s urban league jesse jackson, naacp narrative and conservative black people need to shut up. >> host: are you telling me, telling us, that it only exists for liberals and in an liberal establishment, huh? are you? >> guest: are you talking about political correctness or control? >> host: however you want to answer it. >> guest: here's what i enjoy about conservative media. >> host: are you saying it doesn't exist with conservatives? do they have exclusivity on this? >> guest: i really do believe that that's the case. i believe that rush limbaugh, who they hate, a massable guy. he's not trying to keep anybody down and i believe rush limbaugh does something that the "new york post" -- the "new york times" writers and the "washington post" writers, he said i'm biased. i'm coming to you with my point of view and i'm not biased -- i'm biased.

i'm a conservative. and that's what -- that's the difference between conservatives and liberals in the media. liberals use their objectivity as their weaponry in order to cause people like me, andrew breitbart, brentwood, default liberal -- i just thought i was getting the through the i thought i was getting -- >> host: let me stop you. you take me back to something else, which i thought was excellent. and it was about transparency. you said the one thing that liberals do very well like obama -- when president obama says this is who i am, i smoked a little, i did a little this and i hung out with some bad characters, hey, that's my life story and you said it took the wind out of the sails of those through this gotcha politics. you talk about what republicans should do is just disclose the honest and don't hide what it is. >> guest: and go on bill mahr's

show and msnbc and that's why they are eunuchs and why they are able to control a narrative which according to detailup there's a 2-1 ratio of conservative to liberal but when you turn the television set and read "the washington post" it's all the liberal narrative and all the conservatives are afraid of their shadows. they're afraid that their past is going to come out. they're going to be afraid someone is not going to like them or invite them -- >> host: you cite mark foley as an example. >> guest: mark foley, i mean, he was isolated the same reason why somebody who's black is isolated because he was gay and a conservative. and i say this. i've supported and i've gotten into trouble with this within some parts of the conservative movement. i supported go proud which is a gay conservative organization. if being a conservative saying that there can't be something called a gay conservative, then i'm not a conservative.

and mark foley was targeted the way that a liberal a closeted gay man wouldn't had been because the organized left has decided that its job to police its own to target gay conservatives, to humiliate them as much as humanly possible as a form of political extortion. if you don't believe the way we believe, we're going to ruin your life. >> host: you know, i've looked at this and andrew breitbart's "righteous indignation: excuse me, while save the world." i don't know people know that now you've become the genius of the internet along with those that you admire so much, you were able to force the media to address acorn's corruption. you brought to light van jones and other stories and you did not because you had an angst or

you wanted to grind an ax against these people. you felt that there was wrongdoi wrongdoing, serious wrongdoing and it should be reported. >> guest: absolutely. well, james o'keeffe and hannah giles came to me with a prepackaged -- >> host: who are they? >> guest: they did the acorn undercover work. james was the -- is the guy who does these type of things. and hannah was the person who came up with this particular idea and who played the prostitute. i didn't target acorn. everybody says i targeted acorn but when they came to me with a bow -- >> host: a video. >> guest: a video with a bow on top. they asked, is this newsworthy -- >> host: and you also thought they could be setting you up? you were cautious. >> guest: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. i was a little worried. when a person tells you that they do undercover video, you

worry that they're doing undercover video. so i must say at first i was worried but then i started to see what we had here, which was multiple, multiple outlets of acorn acquiescencing brothels especially with 14 girls and they had service with a smile. if the same premise was done at the heritage foundation, a conservative foundation here in washington, do you think that katie couric would say this is news? >> host: how corrupt was acorn? >> guest: i believe that they were incredibly corrupt and the information was hiding in plain site. the books had been written on acorn. the article had been written. a picture tells 1,000 words. and that's why hollywood is so important. there would be a movie about acorn by the way if there were a conservative constitution.

the videos were able to illuminate and create a depth of what had already previously been written and fallen upon deaf ears so the video was a message. it was a shot across the bow that people across the media land for $1400, that's how much it cost them for all those offices, for $1400 you could do an invest gaytive project like that. lila rose with the planned parenthood stuff and she comes to me how can we effectively get this past the mainstream's media barrier that doesn't want to deal with corruption within planned parenthood? these people -- these heroes of new journalism do this for nothing, for nothing. do you know what message that sends? it sends it out to millions of other people if abc, cbs and nbc are going to ignore corruption. if they're going to ignore stories that hurt the liberal side, where they're not acting as a checks and balance against

half our culture then america can do it themselves. the more katie couric rejects this movement, the more that the movement is going to become a people's movement. the technology exists. the motivation exists. >> host: but would fox news have been so eager to air this video as they did the following morning when they called to say we got a problem. we did not air it on fox and friends we aired it earlier, would they have been so eager to air this had this been video about some conservative organization that they favored? >> guest: well, i don't think the process would have gone through fox news. why would fox news have -- get it in a bow. they would have gone to abc news in all likelihood they would have gone to hbo and gotten $10 million for the rights to this and turned it into a series. they would be on the cover of rolling stone and all that type of stuff. they do things differently. the left does things differently and better.

>> host: i want to say something. many of you watching this show and you may not like what andrew breitbart is saying but andrew breitbart is very honest, very revealing in this book and leaves no stone unturned but you probably think he's some rich conservative person with all this money, that he can make things to happen and i want you to know and the book tells the story and you must go out and get this book. >> guest: thank you. thank you. >> host: it's a very good read. but you went to a donor who happened to be very wealthy and she said, no, i can't do it. i want to stay private. i just cannot deal with this right now but you went to your father. and you said to your father, dad, you called him dad, i need to borrow $25,000. you had to borrow the money from your father just to give legs to the acorn story? >> guest: yeah. >> host: and you eventually paid your father back. >> guest: yeah, and by the way, people describe me as a media mogul. >> host: yeah. >> guest: at the tea parties,

ladies and gentlemen, media mogul, andrew breitbart. let me think to myself i flew in steerage and i have two car payments one for a minivan and a mortgage. why is it -- why is it that arianna huffington gets $315 million for the "huffington post" for creating a liberal version of -- a liberal blog site that is a reflection of what already exists in the media yet nobody is knocking down my doors when i created the "huffington post." there's no money to be on the right. i am not doing this for money. i'm doing this because i want to change culture. i really do want to save the world. >> host: you just cannot say you created the "huffington post" and leave it out there unless you explain it. what do you mean you created the "huffington post"? >> guest: i thought i would leave it as a little secret between arianna and me. >> host: you put it out there. >> guest: arianna came to me after the 2004 election cycle and asked me to come up for an idea of a website.

i had worked we are after i met dredge as her lowly worker and i credit her from being a slacker to a workaholic and one day i walked into the office she's now a liberal. i'm not sure how that happened. and one day i walked in the office and i pulled the rip cord and i was no longer in her life except seeing her at cocktails from time to time. five years later, she comes up to me after the election and says do you have an idea for a website. we come up with the "huffington post." we launch it in may. i've been working with her since december, about six months into it. a month into it, i realized i got to get out of here. i don't think i can hang out with all these lefties. they don't like me. the idea behind it for me is more voices, not less. i don't care if rachel maddow and keith olbermann are out there blabbering against conservatives. they are the ones they won't me kicked off abc and they got me

kicked off abc news on election night and that's fine. more voices not left. i said at their anna it will be great for you. you'll be the queen of the block sphere and my site will have the best consent in the entire world. talk radio will be all over of your hollywood friends talking about how bush is equal to hitler. it was a win-win proposition. i stand by it. there was some of signature mischiefy put into this. i thought it was a win-win situation. i still agree about it. arianna made tens of millions of dollars. and i made the seed money that allowed for me to start my breitbart.com and i take whatever money i make from one site to create another site. i'm just a small businessman. i'm just a simple tea party guy who has a mortgage and two car

payments. >> host: what is at stake in this war that you decided that you have to join? >> guest: i think everything. >> host: what is everything. >> guest: i think america is herring i think that america is a symbol to the rest of the world of freedom and liberty. we've mapped it out better than anyone else. our constitution is the modern magazi magna carta. the left doesn't like it. it's a living constitution then it means. we're in 2011 and this is going on over here and this is going on there. it's anything that we want. if it's anything, then it's nothing. and the tea party movement is a movement. it goes beyond fiscal responsibility. it goes back to the basics. it goes away from professor michael eric dyson where everything is malleable. everything is gray. and it goes back towards a black and white world, not where there aren't any grace but it goes back where there's a white and

wrong. it's going back to where judeo-christianity is the basic template for what this culture stands for. that's blasphemy to the left because they're culturalism how dare you say that. does that mean that you're against hinduism. listen to me, i'm agnostic, okay? but the proof is in the pudding. america, the pillar of capitalism, the pillar of judeo-christianity, there's checks and planses that work off each other. america rose so quickly to become what it was in a short period of time. and then the cultural marxists came in and took our constitutions down. they got rid of washington's birthday. they got rid of lincoln's birthday. they got kids at their college campus saying, mom, i love you, thank you for buying me a stereo on the first day -- >> host: and you want to take god we trust -- >> guest: by thanksgiving in the first semester, why are we having thanksgiving, mom and dad! you are an oppressor of the

native american. that is what the left is in this country. in the book you will learn about critical theory. in the book you will learn about saul alinsky translating critical theory to the street level. it's tearing down our culture. just criticizing -- sarah palin is bad. sarah palin is bad. george bush is bad. george bush is bad. the war is bad. barack obama won the presidency after four years of the left arguing that the war is wrong. the war is wrong. the war is wrong. it's critical theory. it doesn't matter that once they got in, that they didn't stop the wars. it was an effective strategy of community organizing and community chanting to stop the war and get barack obama in. now he's in, and the war exists and they're moving toward their utopia. >> host: i love when you talk in your book saul alinsky gives his pointers on how to win.

your success is in reaction to your enemy. you cannot go beyond your constituency. you got to be humble. you got to -- you got to be warm. all those fuzzy fuzzy things that you talk about. and you say the guy was a genius and it worked. he was effective. >> guest: and he was entertaining. >> host: yes. >> guest: i mean, that is a really good read. and that is why to this day i look at the people who have motivated me and who have helped to craft me into the person that i am which is a hybrid of journalismism and provocateur and sometimes even an entertain. i look at hunter thompson and abbie hoffman and they were granted wide berth to the left to become hybrids of journalism and truth telling and entertainer but when a person like andrew breitbart comes about or a person like james o-keefe comes about, no, you must exist within the box that we give you. you're only allowed to do this and you must put that you're a conservative while you're doing it. well, i'm not going to allow for

the left to define me to tell me what box to be in and i hope black people who are conservatives and hispanics who are conservative and women who are conservatives are inspired to realize we have a once in a lifetime opportunity to take on our oppressors. there are oppressors. in the united states of america you have a right to be a conservative if you're plaque. you no longer have the democratic party who has the right to oppress you, to tell you that you do not have the right to think freely in the united states of america. >> host: you know, i would be remiss in the last 8 minutes of this wonderful time with you, and i appreciate your writing a book, what do you say to those kids at tulane, south carolina state, howard, yale, university of tennessee who are slacking, who are being manipulated not making the use of their

education. >> guest: i do. i'm glad you say that. i go to young america's foundations. i go to college republicans. i beg people take me to your college campus. i'm a provocateur. your liberal classmates are going to like me. i'm going to put on a show for you. i want to tell them the story of what happened to me and how i had my awakening and i want to tell them this. i said this is the most exciting time in the world. i didn't have the internet when you were there. you have the ability to change -- >> host: no, that's not what i'm talking about. don't waste your education. don't waste your time in college on nonessentially. don't allow yourself to be manipulated and brainwashed -- >> guest: well, that's what i'm telling. those video cameras are to be turned on the professor. you no longer have the ability now, teacher, to be in a math class telling your students that bush is hitler. or palin is a dominionist and going off-top and indoctrinate kids. if you don't like what your

teacher is doing. if you think your teacher is going off-curriculum or you think your teacher is trying turn you into a marxist, there's nothing wrong with the transparency of new media because i guarantee you, that even if it's a fifth grade teacher in social studies and inland empire in riverside, california, you get that video of that teacher abusing the child's mind, that's new media and i guarantee you that school district is going to be in a deep amount of trouble. we need to hold the academic world. we need to hold the teachers accountable for what they've done too long. >> host: you're very sincere and you mean well and you wrote this book. and you poured your heart and soul into this book. you have a chance to talk to millions of people. what is it that you would like for me to know about you, andrew breitbart?

>> guest: well, you just said it. that i'm sincere about this. >> host: yes, you are. >> guest: that i'm not a liar. that i do this at great sacrifice and risk. >> host: and that you're not a tool of the right. >> guest: i'm not a tool of the right. in fact, i say it. i help go proud. i went in to cpac when people were saying i don't want to be cpac if go proud is going to be there. i'm going to throw a party for them. i told the republican -- >> host: you keep saying you're a party guy. >> guest: obviously, the biggest myth that it's racist. >> host: and it's not. >> guest: no, i believe -- i believe if black people who feel inside of the inner city or wherever they live -- if they were just simply to walk to a tea party and just sit amongst people, an actor. you know how to act. go out there and shake people's hands. if you're skeptical of them, go

out there and ask questions of them. >> host: but the left doesn't -- >> guest: they don't want to -- >> host: that would be their worst nightmare. >> guest: that's what i want -- >> host: they want to tell them who they are. they don't want -- >> guest: this is what i want more than anything. this is my legacy. i dedicated that back to clarence thomas. i met guinea thomas and she came up to me -- i told this story more times -- i told it to everybody, and i was at an event in washington, and i didn't know who this lady was who tapped me on the shoulder. she know told me who she was. and freaked -- i couldn't deal with the -- it's huge. you have no idea what that man, you know, meant to me. you know, the stoicism that he had when he went through that. and, you know, i've gone through

where this lady said i want to bring black people back to slavery when no one challenged her when this is my life's most important thing is to do something no stupid white person would think to do and that's stand up to jesse jackson and al sharpton and say, enough! and so stand up to these people who prey upon people in need. people like van jones. i can't think of anything more cynical in the world than what van jones has done with his education. the guy graduated from yale and what did he do? he went to the inner city in oakland, california. did he teach these people to fish? no. he organized around the cynical proposition that jamal is on death row in pennsylvania because he killed a white cop or he didn't kill a white cop.

fomenting the rage community organizing around the rage over a cop killer is as cynical as you can get and he has used this hixterism and to become the next al sharpton. al sharpton has a history of bloodshed in the name of his own opportunism and most people are scared of death of being called a racist because they know they're going to be called a racist. i only have one life to live. i have four children. i want to leave a better country for them. i have -- i looked up into the sky and i said i want something to do that isn't shallow. that hollywood sitcom crap and the clarence thomas thing has been my guiding light throughout this entire thing. and, you know, the media also didn't report that niger and roy ennis invited me to be the master of ceremonies for the

corps of racial equalities, martin luther king dinner. they're paying attention to what i'm doing. the mainstream media wants to ignore it because they're afraid that i'm going to be the pied piper who finds black conservatives at every tea party. >> host: in one minute, tell us who media matters are? [laughter] >> guest: media matters is a george soros funded john podesta-led organization that isolates conservative media. it isolates fox news. it isolates andrew breitbart and all of his websites and millions of dollars a year transcribing channel 360 on directv fox news, analyzes every single person that writes on my site, issues press releases to every single newsroom saying, ignore this man. ignore this man. ignore this man. ignore this man. >> host: you should be on it.

that tells you you're a success. >> guest: anyone that knows me, if you follow me at twitter at andrewbreitbart one word you will see one man who has chosen to obsess on, to draw attention to media matters and what they're doing and how evil it is and i'm having the time of my life. >> host: just like when acorn decided to sue you, oh, my god. >> guest: bring it on. bring it on. bring it on. i like the fight. i'm not sure if you can tell. >> host: you know, i must tell you, i really wish you well. i really want to encourage people to go out and buy andrew breitbart's book. it is righteous indignation, isn't it? >> guest: yes, it is. >> host: what is righteous indignation. >> guest: righteous indignation is telling the mainstream media that we aren't motivated by negative things. that your critical theory against us -- the reason that we're scared, that we're only

lashing out because we're scared and racist and all those things. no, it's not just leftists in this country who want to serve the world. right of center people and tea party people and people who are not part of the media elite also want to save the world and that's what this book is about. >> host: do you think we have a chance of staving in>> guest: i hope so, i'm a pretty cynical guy but i wake up every day and that's what i'm trying to do. >> host: listen, it has really been my pleasure today, my honor that you wrote the book and i got a chance to read and be empowered by it and get recharged of my battery and recharged and energized. i talk about this book wherever i go. i encourage people to read it because, you know, you're speaking for me and so many other people in the world that can relate to what you said and you've become a clarion call for so many people. thank you for writing this book and we really wish you much success and all your endeavors. >> guest: thank you. >> host: and thank you, c-span. i'm armstrong williams, andrew breitbart. ..