you know, states like new york and pennsylvania have congressmen and senators who advocate very aggressively for these interests because they benefit enormously from a fairly chaotic monetary system. >> ben tarnoff is the author of this book, "moneymakers: the wicked lives and surprising adventures of three notorious counterfeiters." ..

>> there was a time when i met wayne where there were people who comfortably held a middleground in american society, and wayne has moved them off the middle ground. and now those of us in this room, those that no wayne now represent the middle of america. and animals cannot more now than they ever have in our hearts and our minds at a public policy. and i say this sincerely. wayne -- i say this to my heart. he is the guide more than anybody on the planet who has led us to that view. so with that, wayne pacelle, we are starting tonight. [applause] >> thank you. there are some seats up here. why don't some of you who are in the back -- i'm going to speak for just three or four hours.

[laughter] you really do want to be seated if you can. a few brave souls, come on up. well, welcome all of you. and john, thank you very much for that very generous introduction, and thanks to each one of you for being here for the launch of "the bond." i've thought about writing a book for an awfully long time, and i was waiting for a moment while i wasn't that busy. and that moment didn't come so i figured i would just shoot toward -- shoehorn it into my life. these books, in the era of instant indication, these things have a long gestation period. this has been coming for a while. i just want to say a few things tonight, a few things about the book and a few things about the calls to animal protection. i had a passion for animals ever since i was a little kid, and i'm sure so many of you had that same passion for animals.

i was the youngest of four, and my through the -- three siblings are fabulous human beings. my parents are fabulous. they however were just not that into and to this issue, just like most americans are not into into this issue. they did nothing hostile to animals and they always had kind instinct, but they were not activists in the sense of being involved with animal rescue or other forms of animal advocacy. for me, this issue just burned in my heart. from the youngest age. i had all the encyclopedias to all the animal entries. i had every memorize about polar bears and fraud corn into law. i ordered all sorts of books national geographic, i didn't even know that there were groups organized to fight for animals. and as a constant reminder to become a constant reminder, that there so many people who do

care, but who are not actively involved in the cause of animal protection. i also think about some of the choices that we made as a family. some of these choices are chronicled in the book. i grew up with dogs, i'm sure many of you did. unfortunately, we didn't have any cats growing up. it was later in life that i acquired some cats. but i think about the dogs that we acquired, and i think about what a particular, randy, who was a beautiful west highland terrier. we loved randy so much, and our other, one of our other dog was named brandy and we're all very confused with randy, brady. and my answer goggles and other dogs candy and maybe. it was very confusing. but my uncle actually thought that west highland terriers were fantastic. he got randy from a pet store and you never brady to us. and we were so thrilled at randy because she came from kansas. we thought how exotic this is

that she came from kansas. and it was only later as i got older that is our at the time in the 1980s, our late 1970s, actually midnight and '70s, that kansas was a number one puppy mill state in america. and most of the dogs on the puppy mills are small breeds, chuang wallace and westies in your case and others. as well as unbelievable about is there's a city animal shelter that you could literally see from a front doorstep. you go to the doorstep and look across the slope on. there was a small college right across the street in new haven. you can see this animal shelter. so we got a dog from kansas, you know, 101,200 miles away when it was one of my two best friends who was just waiting to be adopted less than a quarter-mile away. and i think for so many of us, it was about choices and about

awareness. i just was not aware of what the issues were with dog free and certainly not puppy mills and i wasn't aware that for animals euthanized in shelters every day of the year because we were not aware enough as individuals and as a side to make the right choices. and to not only acquire an animal which is a joyous thing, but also to save life, which is an even more joyous and celebratory thing. and it reminds me that that of us can ever get too smug about these issues. for those of us who are involved get frustrated at the pace of change is not fast enough. we've got to remember that there people out there who don't know a full range of option. and, of course, by running -- writing this book i'm trying to spread some awareness and to push people towards better choices. and i think about easy it is

being an animal activist in this day and age. there's a guy that i talk about in the last chapter of the book, called the humane economy. and for me this is a number great symbol and a great person who has a lot to teach each one of us. his name is chuck anderson. and chock was swimming in the gulf of mexico off the gulf of alabama. he was attacked by a bull shark. the first attack from the bull shark resulted in four of his fingers being severed. the shark it came back again and try to bite him and is able to ward off the shark. the shark made a third attempt, and this time hit them most severely, and it is other live and cut off his arm below the elbow. and you would think that anybody who went through an experience like that and who, you know, his

life was changed in whatever way it was change for him as a consequence of an animal attack, here's a guy you would understand if he had animus towards an individual animal or even a species. and you wouldn't think you have very favorable feelings. but chucking a couple of years ago and went to capitol hill, and he lobbied along with eight other victims of shark attacks for legislation to stop the practice of shark spending, where the animals have their dorsal fins suffered. the animals are caught, the families have and the rest of the carcass is thrown into the ocean in order to make shark fin soup. now, killing an animal for a bowl of soup? to me, that is a height of gratuitous killing. but part of this message for me is, if chuck anderson can exhibit this level of altruism, this level of other centric thinking, how easy is it for us

to be active and involved in an age in issues where no conflict of interest, where animals have done nothing to harm us, and, frankly, they have done things to make our life more rich, more wonderful in every single way. and i think that, you know, when we think about animals and we think about humans, i don't think of an equivalency. i think that we are an incredible and unique species. i think we have this incredible intelligence and creativity. and i think we need to use that to think about the most vulnerable in society. i mean, if so assess an animal is not as an intelligent as a person, i say that's no reason not to care for the animal, even though the animals are intelligent in their own ways. this is a reason all the more to be concerned about other

creatures. and when i talk about animals, i talk more about human responsibility than i do about animal rights. part of the thesis in this book is that we've always had a connection to animals. we have always felt a kinship with other creatures. that short of kinship that before anyone gave me any instruction, i knew i should be good to these other creatures. they were different if they had beautiful brown eyes, beautiful for and they were athletic. their differences did make me think, well, i want to cause them or. their differences augmented their stature in my eye and in my mind. and more and more we really see that we are connected to animals, not just because of some personal unusual characteristic of those of us who are very passionate, but all of us have some connection to animals.

it was said that we are lovers of other life, that we are drawn to other animals just like a moth is drawn to a flame. macomber talks about the biochemical explanation for this bond. and the biochemical explanation, she says, is called oxytocin. and oxytocin is thought to be a social bonding drug, and when it mother bears a child, the oxytocin levels spike in the mud and a child and it's a reason the mother can stare at a child for more than 10 hours a day. this is an incredible connecti connection. and some of it appears to be biochemical. well, more and more research shows that when we interact with animals, oxytocin levels spike with us and also spike within animals. and it is a level of mutualism that occurs. and i'm no surprise when we hear about iraq war veterans and afghanistan war veterans come

back, they have post-traumatic stress disorder, and they get a therapy dog or they just get a convenient and they get off their medication, they are able to leave their home and go grocery shopping, they are able to get the help, their mental health back in a better state. i think animals have an incredible rehabilitative quality. i think that this bond gives us a head start in terms of doing the right thing for animals. now, that can be trumped by culture and economics, you know, if you're selfish, if you want to exploit animals because you have the opportunity, historically there have been lost to constrain that. and really what we're trying to do is to set some standards in society. to see the animals are properly cared for. and i look at our western traditions and i look at distinctive bond and i also look at our declaration of independence and our

constitution, and the founding documents of our country to the founding doctors of western democracy. and icnc was in these documents, i see talk of the rights of the individuals. and i see talks of justice, fairness. and it was those principles that led us to attack -- attach human problems to slavery and women's suffrage, the denial of women's suffrage. and we have seen to the arctic history that we've dealt with these forms of injustice overtime because the pre-steps of a civil society demand that. and i think one of the great important causes is about animals. we can't just suspend these crystals of fairness and justice when it comes to these other creatures. these creatures are innocent and vulnerable and helpless. they need us also more. and when we think about what's going on, you know, most social movements are born out of

crisis, and a humane movement was born in the middle part of the 19th century because of crisis. there were newly formed cities in america, and people were killing animals to supply me and for, feathers for the people in the cities. in the span of three decades we nearly wiped out the bison in america. once we develop a transcontinental railroad and repeating firearm and marcus develop for their hides and their tongues, to think of that, that is available animals, 40 to 60 million animals that were estimated in bison on the great plains, there are only 500 left by the 1870s. and incredible mass destruction. there were billions of passenger pigeons and they were entirely extroverted as a consequence of the attitude of domination and new technologies. so you think about that in 1860s and 1870s. now we're in the 21st century that technology is even more lopsided in our favor.

so we have all of this power over other creatures, and how we going to use this power? ultimately i think this call for protecting animals is about the misuse of power. it's about people using their power not in the restraint or limited way but license, a sticky if edge of animals because we can do it. and i think that there's some folks who think dogs and cats, and that's the birthright of the organization. but there is so much more to the work of the humane society that only dogs and cats. it's about wildlife and it's about farm animals and it's about horses. it's about animals used in testing and research and experimentation. all of these animals matter. and our mission at the humane society is celebrating animals and confronting cruelty. we want to celebrate the place of animals in our culture and our society. we want to confront cruelty where ever and whenever we see

it. and i'm just convinced that things are moving in our direction. there are folks who put roadblocks of all time. the critics of animal protection, they have a static view of history. they want things to stay just the way they are because that's most probably that's most comfortable. and basic tv change factory farming we're not going to be able to have cheap food, or if we can't use animals for testing, we're not going to find ways to test the safety of products. again, i think that such a static view of history. look at how things have changed just in my own professional lifetime. the internet was developed. e-mail, telecommunications look so different. transportation looks so different. so many things look so different. and now it's also a question of things looking carefully in terms of human impacts on other creatures. and we've had some defining moments in our culture.

about animals, some breakout moment. i think of the michael vick case, and i think of the cruelty of dogfighting and the awareness that that brought and how we turned that terrible case of cruelty into an opportunity to change the laws around the country, to a felony level penalties come and to start community-based programs to reach young kids in urban communities who are drawn into this world of dogfighting and to prevent that from happening. so they we don't have to have more actions on the backend. i think of our hallmark? which i talk about in the book where one of our brave undercover investigators went into a slaughterhouse and he got a job, and he watched what was going on with these animals with a hidden camera, he documented the abuse of these cows, these dairy cows who were suffering terribly and grievously. they were dragged with change in the slaughterhouse and push with

bulldozers. they had hoses put in their mouth to waterboarded animals to cause them such distress that they would get off the ground and go into the water area. and i also think about the katrina? and incredible moment in a coach when people really begin to understand the human animal bond. what so many people wouldn't leave the area, their home because the government responders would not take them with their animals. so may people said i'm not going to abandon my best friend during his or her time of greatest need. and just to read you a quick little excerpt from the chapter on pets, i sense as so many of my colleagues did, a few weeks down in new orleans in the wake of hurricane katrina. there was an incredible effort with many organizations and some individuals who came to help. and it was just an incredible

example of the charitable nature and the goodness of the american people. and just a couple of paragraphs from this chapter five, which is called the love of pets. in a lifetime of being around animals, i have seen some strange and interesting things but it was something completely different. i was standing in the front galley of a continental airline 747 that was soon to depart baton rouge airport surveying a plane packed with passengers, all of them dogs. it was like something from a far side cartoon, serving dog biscuits and water. given the desperate circumstance come everyone was quiet and well-behaved, and the sound of the captains and ears out and tilted. not one of the 140 dogs on board was barking or whiny. not even the ones stuck in the middle seats. [laughter] >> there was something comical in this human also deeply

touching. seeing all these frightened faces wondering what was happening to them. yet, however of a they might have felt at the moment, everyone of them was lucky to be leaving new orleans in the days after hurricane katrina. these guys have already been through a lot. they had been abandoned when the city was evacuated, left to fend for themselves as the waters rose, food ran out and they found themselves all alone in an empty house. we finally 30 friendly foes, it wasn't their own is the one of the hundreds of rescuers who had come to help. now they were bound for california where others would take them to one day soon if everything worked out, there always would find them and take them back on. what mattered most right now was to get him to safety worry about the reunion later. and you know, i was down there in new orleans, as i said, for some time and i get a lot of images for the press talking about pet rescue. and i expected the question to be asked. this was a terrible calamity.

no one was spared. more than 1000 people die. more than a hundred thousand were displaced. it had a couple hundred -- i was expecting a question why are you concerned about animals. when they were so many people who are in distress. and for all those reporters who were down on the ground, they knew that the circumstances of people and animals were intertwined. and not one person asked that question. they saw suffering, whether human or animal, and they wanted to respond to get. and i think it was such a teaching moment for our american culture that pain is pain and suffering is suffering. when we are kind to animals it spills out to some site. dash it spills out to society when we are cruel to an animal that is at the training ground for being cold or callous towards been. it is no accident that we see one of cruelty to animals, we

often see people involved in other forms of cruelty. when we see cruelty to animals and households, 75% of cases is domestic violence, whether it is the dog want a cup of the child the next, the spouse the next. all of these things are connected at all of these things i draw out in the book. and i'm going to wrap up but i want to just read a little bit from the book where want to make a point that i do expand on the preface. we live in the civil society. we live in a society where there is an incredible social safety net for lots of the suffering. and it's in the pluralism of our concern that we see their needs met, so that there are people who care passionately perhaps because a family member has been afflicted about curing disease. there are people who care about the environment. there are people who care about the poor and dispossessed.

and people have a great passion for animals. when we follow our passion and women no longer bystanders to suffering, that's what would have the full society. it's truly in the pluralism of concern that we build a society like the united states of america. so when i see these movements for democracy and north africa and the middle east and we hope to sing the strength of the same principles of fairness and individual rights, i see the seeds being planted for concern about everyone, including the animals. but i will close with just a couple of paragraphs from the preface about my thoughts about the broader issue. as harsh as nature is for animals, cruelty comes only from human hands. we are the creature of conscious, aware of the wrongs we do, and fully capable of making things right.

our best instinct will always tend to that pressure because of bandwidth animals is built into everyone of us. that bond of kinship and fellow feelings has been with us for the entire arc of human experience. from our first bare footsteps on the planet through the air of domestication of animals and into the modern age. for all that said humanity apart, animals remain our companions in creation, to borrow a phrase from pope benedict xvi. bound up with those in a sort of life on earth. every act of callousness toward an animal is a betrayal of that bond. in every act of kindness we keep faith with the ball and. and broadly speaking, the whole mission of the animal welfare is to repair the bond. for their sake and for our own. in our day there are stresses and fractures of the human animal bond and some forces at work would separate want to throw. they pose in the wrong direction and away from the decent and

honorable code that makes us care for creatures who are entirely at our mercy. especially within the last 200 years would've come to applaud and industrial mindset to the use of animals there too often viewed him as if they were nothing but articles of commerce and the raw material of science, agriculture and wildlife management. here is another pursued, human ingenuity has a way of out running human conscious. and some things we do only because we can't, forgetting to ask whether we should. so i'm really grateful to have you here tonight. i'm hopeful that you will dig into the book and read it. and more than just reading it, i hope that it helps you to act, because we've got a lot of crises in this world of else have a lot of people like you who care. and i think the winds of history are going in our direction. but we've got to steer the boat and i think we can keep battling

to make it go faster or so thank you all very much, and i think we'll take a couple of questions. thank you. [applause] >> so, questions? it's okay to take questions, right? great. yes. [inaudible] did i miss it already? >> i touched on it briefly, the question for those of you who might have hurt his what's my childhood story. i mentioned very briefly that, you know, i didn't have one moment, you know, but had kind of a crisis of conscience or i had something that i saw that kind of jolted me. i really do feel that i had this game. it was almost a genetic sort of inclination to be sensitive to

animals, to be empathetic. and i think it's different for all of us. i'm sure that was the case with many of you but i've heard a lot of stories that there was one moment that people had when they saw in a very poignant setting the suffering of an animal. but, you know, i certainly have seen in all my years, whether it was being out with a buffalo in yellowstone are being up on the ice slopes in canada, i seen the worst of humanity. but i've also seen the best of humanity. and i really want to focus on that best of humanity because that's our pathway for the future. questions? yes. >> wayne, so often we hear that science doesn't prove that animals feel and this and that. i know where you're coming from as far as human bond with animals. but does your book discuss today science findings and how it's

inevitable that we must give animals their due process and to be treated humanely and so on and so forth? >> i think -- did most of you that? it was about science and white explorer in the bonds the issues about the capacities of animals. the second chapter is devoted to animal intelligence. and i opened it up actually with a discussion about stephen jay gould. he wrote a book called the mis- measure of man. the turn of the last century the scientist who were doing craniotomy trade study the brain and the schools, they basically posited a theory and try to support it with signs that basically reinforce their own prejudices, saying that there were certain groups at smaller schools, smaller brains, to justify their view of the superiority of third races. and i think that you could have

science that is well done and rigorous. and you have science and reinforce the existing paradigm, prejudice. and i think we saw the animals are such a long time. we were deniers of what was commonsense in front of us. there was this view of the behaviorism, a theory of animals, were animals are kind of mindlessly pursuing food and many opportunities, and they're almost devoid of emotional characteristics and qualities. this was the reigning doctrine in the school of behaviorism for quite a long time. and i think in these last 20 years from especially the last 25, 30 years, i mean, this whole motion i think has been put to rest. we recognize in the scientific world now what our own common sense tells us, that animals think, that they feel, they have a sense of past and future debate experience a range of motions, joy and sadness, loneliness, excitement. this is what matters.

if it's not exactly the same osha that we have, that doesn't mean you should deny it. all the more. if animals do have a little bit more of limitation in the emotional capabilities, to me that is an argument to care about what they have got more than not, for sure. but that part of the book i think was really challenging but it was really fun to write, and stories about animals as moral agents as well, with dolphins saving people who were threatened by sharks, and incredible acts of heroism of animals, not just that their intelligent. a lot of animals have more capacities and to act upon. in the back, any questions or thoughts? >> you touched on this very briefly in your opening remarks. and i'm curious why this book at what is the message of what

people across the states to take away from as they have a chance to meet with you? >> i think one of the central messages that i want to convey is that we have largely reached an agreement on some of the basic precepts, that animals can suffer and they can feel, and that animal cruelty is wrong. if we except those two basic principles, then a very important question from how we logically apply this matter. in a society where animal use is everywhere. where we are eating animals, where we are wearing animals your where animal testing occurs to help market products that we purchase in our stores that we visit on a regular basis. there are moral problems everywhere when it comes to human treatment of animals. but that also means there's more

opportunity. we have these more opportunities every day in our life to make the right choices. and you know, the past necessities are today's minor convenience of. there were things we had to do way back when because that was part of it for survival. but now with our state of human progress, we have alternatives. i mean, why would we wear a fur coat when you have a beautiful cloth or synthetic fur coat that is just as warm, just a stylish? that is just an example, in my opinion, as someone not doing consistent moral thinking. if you say you're against cruelty then you have got to square that with her conduct. i think even food questions. the largest uses of animals in society is the use of animals for food. 10 billion animals raised and killed in the united states every year. the vast majority now are raised in industrial style factory

farms. we've had a tremendous, tremendous in terms of large, not in terms of goods, transformation and agriculture. where animals used to feel so much on the backs and soil beneath their feet, they were slaughtered for food, but they had a decent life in the run up to the slaughter process. now the slaughter process which is arguing worse now than it ever was is the merciful and to a life of misery, where animals are confined in cages and grades barely larger than their bodies. if we value the emotional characteristics and qualities of animals, and if we honor principles of goodness and decency to animals, we cannot count factory farming industry and it. animals with wings and legs are effectively immobilized for their entire life. in the case of view cats and breeding sows and laying hands, in the egg industry, we need a

transformation. and i hope just to get back to your question, that all of us think through the logical consequence of our opposition to cruelty. it doesn't just mean the animals we know. it doesn't just mean random acts of cruelty in the community. like a horrendous burning of a dog or a cat, and also means that looking at institutionalized, normalized settings where animal use is legal and permissible. and figuring out if that conduct holds up to our modern-day standard of cruelty. one or two questions. [inaudible] how do you stay positive with a cruelty you see, channeling that frustration into a hostage of action? >> i think that's the key for us. look around you. the vast majority of the people here care deeply about animals. i'm heartened by the fact that

we have 11 million supporters. one of every 20 americans do if i was a little you're talking to a couple of you here, and that was it, and these ideas sounded far-fetched and farcical, then i would really be concerned. but i think that when you talk about logic, talk about signs and you talk about american traditions, i mean, we are the mainstream. we are exhibiting sensibilities that reflect the mainstream of american culture and political thought. and now it's just a question of making sure that when they strong enough political movement, cultural movement in order to effect the changes that are long overdue, whether it is slowing down and stopping the euthanasia of animals in shelters by making sure people adopt animals, shelters and rescue groups rather than patronize pet stores that are full of dogs from puppy mills. looking at are eating choices,

being conscious consumers. whether that lead you to be a vegetarian or not. we can all do something to ease our impact on the farm animals by not buying products that come from factory farms. it's so many of the settings, we have choices abound. so i say usual powers as consumer. you should voice as citizens to change the equation. i started and animal protection group when as a college college student at yale, and johnson we were on the margins at that point, but in the last 25 years, things have changed dramatically. that doesn't mean that things are going to be easy. we had an incredible struggle in a society. we fought a war, you know, over slavery with 600,000 people died directly in the war. there are big social conflicts that occur that are right and entirely reasonable, you can

wonder what others even a debate about historically. and we are taking on an enormously challenging problem. the problem of human cruelty towards animals which have so many manifestations in our society. so i think it's an enormous challenge but i think there are enormous opportunities. how are we doing on time? okay, great. a couple more questions. [inaudible] people were saying there were a limited number. last night. >> i think with plenty of books. i think with plenty of books, and i will sign it until drop. i will stay with all of you here tonight if i must. i will maybe limit the word number. this took a lot. just? >> you talking about at all about environmental issues which probably post some serious threats to animal species around the world today? >> the question is about

environmental issues, and i certainly do. wild animals need a helping by what if they're going to survive. it's not trapping and direct killing that's the number one threat to wild animals. it's the destruction of habitat, the maintenance of ecosystems and we as passion with a very large wildlife department and were deeply concerned. i was really disturbed by this ceo of go daddy.com trying to claim that he went to zimbabwe as a humanitarian enterprise to kill an elephant because the alpha was trampling some crops. i've heard this excuse making so much. i don't know if some of your sure heard about it, but this ceo of go daddy went to zimbabwe, to give you of him with a bunch of backup shooters, shooting a bull elephant and then claimed it was done for the people.

and in the book i actually go through the case of a guy named ken berry. he was a trophy hunter from northern california, very well the guy who owned a sports team. it is found all over the world to shoot rare species. after shot to endangered big horn sheep in kazakhstan am a former soviet republic. and he couldn't get the trophies imported to the united states and this is not the current leadership of the specimen, but priorities at the smithsonian worked to give him import permits the scientific exemption after you get $20 million to the facility. and this was exposed and in the process of the exposure, what we've learned is that he shot with a couple of his cohorts three bull elephants in mozambique, and yet the same rationale as the go daddy got to

the for problem elephants and his doing some humanitarian things. internet the wildlife officials said these were not problem help us. the killing of elephants was illegal and he hustled him out of the country. but i've heard this excuse making time and time again. and i think that on the environment and on and what action i to construct those arguments. in the back. yes. [inaudible] >> well, you know, i think that as i said before, we have a head start when it comes to helping animals because we have a bond, we have the right inclination to send us in a good direction. the problem is economics and other interests may trump those

concerned. so we are in a struggle for ideas, and i think that we do need to inculcate in the youngest generation these sensibilities of kindness towards animals. and i think, as i said before, when we're good to animals it just builds on an society. when we are back to animals, factory farm is not just an animal welfare problem. it's a problem massive manure waste, that spoils the water and putrefying severe. it's a problem, creates problems because the animals are so overcrowded that disease can spread and then we pumped the animals full of antibiotics to prevent the disease even though they're not designed designed for that purpose. we also see is that a terrible impact on rural community. a number of farmers have declined dramatically because the factory farms swallow up a lot of the smaller producers. so again, when we are good to animals are often down stream could affect. i think we've got to make that

argument playing to our kids because everything is connected when we think about these principles. [inaudible] what would you recommend the average person do to combat these issues beyond volunteering at a local station i can't shelter the. >> the question is in an urban setting like washington, d.c., what do we do to help. obviously, we don't have superabundant wildlife populations you. there are rock creek's here and we have deer and other animals and protecting urban wildlife is very important. we have a humane wildlife services program that helps people resolve conflicts with schools and i couldn't rather than just kind of casually and callously killing these animals, there are ways to solve these problems. i think that, you know, in a community like this, we have seen in most urban communities a

problem with dogfighting. this is a very significant issue. it doesn't touch many of us are directly, but i think reaching young kids and having them get in for the right reason and not for the reason of having a fighting machine or kind of a macho display, a lot of shelters in urban communities have an enormous large number of pit bulls because they're given up, delinquent, discarded. and i think that's an important issue for us. but we live in a global economy, and why we should be involved locally we need to be anybody's macro issue. i think supported groups like hsus and others is important because they allow collective actions to reform these large institutions. and i think our own personal market choices, whether it's food or clothing or products that you buy that are not tested on animals or are tested on animals, those are important decisions that we make every single day where you're voting for cruelty or against it.

but i think lots of great local organizations to the washington humane society is a great crew. washington animal rescue league, the rescue organizations, and i think that really important as well. yes? [inaudible] when the first firework started i was along the potomac. a whole gush of birds that were completely frantically took off. and then i started to think of what are we doing? you know. and i couldn't enjoy it after that. i don't know -- [inaudible] it was around the first of the year with fireworks. it completely disoriented these birds. >> the question is, the questioner made an observation about fireworks on july 4. some of these ancillary

consequences in celebration, of course, you know, the anniversary of our founding as a republic is a great cause for celebration. and it's one that i celebrate, but i can't help but feel deeply concerned about the animals when these fireworks are going on. the animals are fine. i had one of my -- you do, this is a terrible thing. my aunt and uncle for a great animal lovers had a german shepherd. when i was a kid we tethered our dog. we had her on a chain and i look back and think why did we do that? and my aunt and uncle had their dog tethered and she got so frantic that she jumped over and hung herself because of the fireworks display. and always stuck in my mind, and i see so many animals who are scared, frightened by these fireworks. and is really, you know, makes me kind of shut the blinds and put up buffer so the animals can

hear what's going on. it is a concern, and i think these are close reach of the situation. and again we want to celebrate you know, wonderful holidays like july 4. but i think if we are conscious about these things and minimize that sort of thing. the birds, they been a number in arkansas and south dakota, cases where birds fell from the sky. we don't have great explanations for why it's happened. some of the birds die i think a group in south dakota because the federal government was poisoning them. is a federal program called wildlife services, if you can believe that. it used to be called animal damage control, but in the world of euphemism they changed to wildlife services. this federal program as a subsidy for ranchers and others, they kill more than 1 million animals a year with our tax dollars. and also the county funds and wildlife fund. but real problem, a real probl problem.

[inaudible] when they're going to have a fireworks display, they could maybe have start the week out and have, you know, one minute of fireworks, so the animals sort of cute and. >> we other people to this problem every year. we issued the statements that related to other pet owners. but it's one of their conscious of and will keep thinking about. yes, sir. >> we were talking about a national holiday and you talk about washington, d.c., and this might be a delicate question, but who are the political allies on this issue? i mean, since we have -- >> the question is, who are the clinical allies of animal protections? and, in fact, it's a good time to ask a question because we just had our humane congressional award who we recognize them as of congress, both the house and the senate for leadership on animal issues

and for consistent support of animal protection issue. the humane society legislative fun which is a political arm of the humane society issues a scorecard for lawmakers. you can go to the website and you can get a scorecard and see every lawmakers score on the issues of the day. we did issue to leadership awards or legislators of the year for congressman jim moran who is just over the line here in virginia, the eighth congressional district, and in california and republican lawmaker, i think the 24th congressional district in ventura county, santa barbara can. but we gave out 144 towards. there was one that refuses this award, and it was -- we really err on the side of being generous with these awards. we give awards to lawmakers who do, the editors a bill.

congressman don young, a big trapper, analyze and you have to do something about marine landings. we've got a great list of supporters on that website. yes? >> i saw that you video when he gave the little puppy mill puppy, i think it was david graham, he just loved that little puppy. >> they had a ceremony, the questioner mentioned, a figure. we've got a fat as video. we actually have an app that you can get from the humane society on your iphone and you can watch videos. we produce videos every single day. and we did a video last week.

i gave a little puppy who had been rescued from a missouri puppy mill to congressman michael graham, a freshman lawmaker from staten island. who got elected in november. he wanted to get a dog anyone a little box we could be an office dog. and i can't say how happy all the staff were. and is just such a fun thing to do and to see his excitement and the rest of the staff. animals give us so much joy, and they give so much and we should give some back to them. we need to raise our voices for them. >> first of all, thank you so much. [inaudible] talking about children and your childhood experiences, is there a way to tap into public

education and help educate the next generation to think about animals? is there a way to sort of make this a part of curriculum? >> the question is about, again on the issue of humane education reaching kids at the age when they're really performing their values and beliefs. we have a program called humane society youth. hsus is actually a constellation of organizations. we have a political arm, the humane society legislative fund. winter wildlife land trust, an international program. we have a number of other programs. we do have a youth edition and we have a newsletter called kind is the coast about 40,000 classrooms in the country. the curricula in many schools are jampacked and is pivotal to add something to. we do speak to classes and web a lot of our supporters speak to classes. something we want to do more of to reach kids.

i've been working to speak in a lot of the urban settings to kids at risk for dogfighting and those sorts of questions. and i can't agree with you enough that's very important to reach them. but kids learn from a lot of other places now. whether it is animal planet or the internet. there's so many portals of information that's what we really work hard to provide information to a lot of settings. and, of course, we are very active in the social media, facebook and a lot of other platforms to communicate our message. because the world is ever-changing through communication. one more question and then we will wrap it up. >> cement, we will wrap it up. thank you very, very much. [applause] >> i will sign books up here. you're watching 48 hours of nonfiction authors and books on c-span2's book tv.

>> we have this inherited you that we are divided, that went reason over here and emotion over here. and the two are at or with one another, like a seesaw if her emotional then you're not rational, if you're rational then nonemotional. and that society progresses to the extent that reason which is trustworthy can suppress the passions which are untrustworthy. and so this bias has led to a view of human nature that we are fundamentally rational individuals who respond and straightforward ways to insist that it's led to a lot of our academic disciplines that tried to study human behavior using the methods of physics. emphasizing what they can count and a model, and florida for all the rest. and i think it is lead to amputation, a shelby of human nature would emphasize things are rational and accountable but ignore, inarticulate about things down below. and so it's great a culture in which we are really good at talking about material things, but that about talking about

emotions. really good at talking about health and safety and professional skills, but about the most important things like character and integrity, we often have very little to say. the great philosopher said with a system where we still have words for the important things like virtue and honor and vice, but we don't have a basic understanding of how they all fit together. he said imagine he had science was like neutron are grabbing but we didn't understand how physics works or have they all fit together. that's where we are. and so i think we have this indication which blows us in a certain way. and it blows us in the direction, this breeze that we're not always satisfied with. i mention i went to high school and my folks still live in wayne pennsylvania just west of here. and you see the parents there any places around the country sort of trapped into a certain style of raising their kids. you go to elementary school after and other critters come

out and they're wearing these 80-pound backpacks, the wind blows and over and their like beatles sort of stuck there on the ground last night because we want them to study and do homework and get ready for the harvard admissions test. they get picked up by sobs and out as an global's that town and social acceptable to the electric arc so long as it comes in a country hostile to u.s. foreign policy. [laughter] and they get raised and picked up by this creature i wrote about in a book called uber moms are highly successful career woman have taken time off to make sure all the kids get into harvard and actually weigh less than own children. [laughter] and they're doing little but exercise during the moment of conception in the delivery room, cutting the available court themselves and the baby sort plots out there and amanda flashcards. so they can learn chinese. [laughter] so they turn them into little achievement machines and sat practice but they're not happy

with it. they don't think this is the most important thing but the tiger mom down the street is doing it. and they feel sort of trapped into a system which the ritual but they can't renounce. they're often in a system where they sort of morality and character matters most but they don't quite have the vocabulary for it. so when people talk about morality, often we end up talking about chocolate. in rat who has a ben & jerry's ice cream, ice cream copy on foreign policy. i joked in one of my books about ben & jerry's should make a pacifist toothpaste, doesn't kill germs, it just asked them to leave. [laughter] they have a whole foods market, one of the grocery stores were all the cashiers look like there are loads of amnesty international. [laughter] my household we buy their seaweed-based snacks. it is veggie booty.

and so, i you know, i think this is sort of the world we are sort of trapped in your but we realize that i did not author is. and there's more. and more that we should be experiencing. and so i was thinking about this problem, and gradually i became aware of this other sphere of life where they were looking into some of the deeper things. and oddly it was a theologian's, it was early philosophers, but it was people who studied the people's money. we are in this inquiry exciting. and his across a wide range of seers, psychology, behavioral economics, all these seers. people are looking into the human mind. and really it's a revolution of consciousness if you want to put it that way because when you synthesize their findings you start with three key insights. and the first insight is that while the conscious mind rights

the autobiography of our species, most of the action and most impressive action is happening unconsciously evolved level of awareness. and one way to think about this is the human mind can take in roughly 12 many pieces of information a minute, which it can consciously process about 40. and all the rest is being done really without our being aware of it. a lot of the things that are going on are somewhat odd in my favorite research and find from the research of low score is people link to his art is reportedly likely to become dentists. people named lawrence artist versus become lawyers. because i'm cautiously we gravitate towards things that are familiar. which is why i pay my daughter the president daughter the president of the united states. and in some things are going on unconsciously are sort of impressive. it's not the tangled web of sexual urges that point imagine. some of it being conscious is just a different way of

understanding the world. and often yielding superior results. one of the tips i read about it have a tough decision you can't make up your mind, tell yourself you were decided by a coin flip. then flip the coin but don't go by how the coin comes up you go by your emotional reactions of the coin flip. are you happy or sad it came up that way. that your unconscious mind having made the decision telling you what it thinks. and then the third area that happens unconsciously is really the most important. how do we relate to people, how do we understand situations how do we perceive the world. these are the fundamental factors of whether we'll have a successful or unsuccessful life, fulfilling or a fulfilling life. the second insight is that emotions are not the enemy of thinking. emotions are at the center of thinking. people who have strokes relations and can't process probably are not super smart, they are super done. because what emotions did is they assign value to think that they tel