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>> translator: i am very glad this is the second time in speaking at this institute. the first time that i was here was to introduce my first vote, iran awakening. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: through my life story, i wanted to introduce iran to the people of the world. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: i am glad to introduce my second book to you called "the golden cage." [speaking in native tongue]
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>> translator: part of the last 32 years of the history of iran is narrated in this story through the true story of a family. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: by noted in this book was afraid that i have quoted at the beginning of my book front dr. ali shade and iranian sociologist who says that you cannot eliminate injustice, at least talk about it. [speaking in native tongue]
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[speaking in native tongue] >> translator: those parts of the last 32 years history of iran better to pick it in narrated in this book will help you understand what the people of iran want today, with their demand sorry. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: and what situation as i ran two-day quiet nights on [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: in brief, i'm going to use a few statistics to tell you that the situation of iran.
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the [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: persona to a report to reporters without borders, over 40 journalists and weblog readers are in prison now. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and iran is the last among 173 countries when it comes to respect for freedom of speech. [speaking arabic] >> translator: pursuant to a reported amnesty during the past 12 months, over 300 people have
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been executed in iran. some of them were political prisoners. sub turn sub turn >> translator: when political executioners are teacher ba, their bodies are not given to the families. they are. without knowing where in hating. >> translator: [speaking arabic] >> translator: after china, iran has the most number of executions in the world. [speaking arabic] >> translator: iran has the most number of underage criminals in the world, the most
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number of executions of underage criminals in the world. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the age of criminal responsibility has been reduced. [speaking arabic] >> translator: this age is nine years for growth and 15-year-old for boys. start turn >> this means that a 10-year-old girl for 15-year-old boy from it a crime, the law will punish them as if a 40-year-old had committed that crime. [speaking arabic]
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transcode this is unfortunate when execution of under the age of 18 criminals exits an era. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: pursuant to report to the international monetary fund him and economic growth of iran in 2010 has been zero and the rate of inflation has spent 22%. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the rate of unemployment in iran is very high pursuant to the report of the economic experts is over
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: pursuant to a law that was passed after the revolution, the life of a woman is worth half of that of a man. it means that if me and myself in better: the streets and we are attacked by someone for something happens on the street, the conversation make to my brother would be twice as much as the compensation paid to me. [speaking arabic] >> may be rate here. sorry.
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: pursuant to the laws, the testimony of two women in court equal testimony of one man. [speaking arabic] >> translator: a man can marry four wives, can divorce his wife on no grounds, but divorce can be very difficult for women. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and are a lot of on the basis of religion exists. [speaking arabic] [speaking arabic] >> translator: pursuant to the
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law, their official relations of the country of islam. however, other religions such as judaism, christianity are also recognized. [speaking arabic] >> translator: worth approximately 300,000 by heath is in iran are deprived from all civil rights. [speaking arabic] >> translator: even from the beginning of the revolution, they haven't been able to attend universities. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: also raised his discrimination between muslims and those religions that have been recognized according to the constitution. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and i will give you one example. [speaking arabic] [speaking arabic] >> translator: pursuant to the lot among the air of the dissidents, the muslim person will inherit the property and the others will be deprived. [speaking arabic]
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: if an iranian person dies and has two daughters and one son, whereas a nephew converted to islam, all of the inheritance will go to the nephew and his own children will be deprived inherent. transcode there is a difference between shiites and sunnis. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: and tehran, with a population is 12 million, not even one permit for the construction of a sunni mosque has been issued. [speaking arabic] >> translator: of course the situation of this years is not good either in iraq. [speaking arabic] >> translator: one example was the attack on the kona body was the attack on the kona body was the attack on the kona body [speaking arabic] >> translator: they were attacked brutally in a number of them have been arrested. even three of the attorneys who
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defended them have been arrested as well. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the government claims that these laws are islamic. [speaking arabic] >> translator: we can't have any other law because we are muslims. [speaking arabic] >> translator: but what we can see is that the famous other religions have different interpretations, islam can have different interpretations, too. said 10 [speaking arabic] >> translator: look at the united states. one church does not accept abortion, the other church does. sub 10
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: or the other is the marriage of which one church may agree and one church may not what they are both again christian churches. >> translator: [speaking arabic] >> translator: islam has different interpretations, too. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the issue is democracy. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and nondemocratic government, government only expect its own interpretation of religion or ideology and does not pay attention to other interpretations. said 10
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: therefore, a member upon the clergy are against such laws and say that we can change them. these are not islamic glass. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: if they are not in political power, no one listens to them and they have not succeeded yet. [speaking arabic] >> translator: their pioneer was ayatollah was a hurry whose discovery meant is neither islamic republic. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: and what was the reaction of the defenders of human rights to all of these violations human rights? [speaking arabic] >> translator: fortunately, there are numerous human rights defenders in iran who work for the advancement of human rights. said 10 [speaking arabic] >> translator: within the last two years come at the resolutions have been passed by the united nations were condemning iran a violations of human rights. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: the lack of which was the revolution of the human rights council of the united nations and due to the deterioration of the situation of human rights, special envoy to our repertoire was designated for iran. [speaking arabic] >> translator: we have three countries in the world better in such a back condition they require a special wrapper tour. or not, korea and iran. the [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: unfortunately, a few ago -- a few weeks ago the european union announced the names of 32 iranian. they have been banned from entering europe if they have any carpeting in europe, the property will be confiscated, even if it is in swiss bank. these people have participated in the killing and repression of the people. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: of course, violators of human rights or slander them that. i think up to now they've moved their property and transfer it to other countries, where they can later use it and let the good life. [speaking arabic] >> translator: but the important point is the world has become smaller for violators of human rights. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and they understand how to they can be held accountable for the killing and repression of our people,
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somewhere. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the first time sanctions against people who have participated in the killings of others were taken. the decision was made in america. [speaking arabic] [speaking arabic] >> translator: as the united states has come up with a list of eight persons who have participated in the killing and repression of the people, the property will be confiscated in this country and demands from
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entering this country. unfortunately, d.c. people are among the 30 -- the state names are among the 32 names that the european union has announced. sub 10 [speaking arabic] >> translator: this kind of sanctions are smart sanctions, meaning that it does not punish all of the people of one country, but only goes after those who have committed the crime. the [speaking arabic] [speaking arabic] >> translator: the issue but
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the media, the prepress is that if america leaves the country in the middle east that have ceased the uprising of the people, will iran replace america in this country is quite [speaking arabic] >> translator: this means that the uprising of the people will result in the influence -- unhealthy influence of a man in the are not. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: in general, i have to say that government should have relationships with each other. they should have trade relations and political relations. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and i don't see any problems that a government like iran's has relations with other countries. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the problem is one country is influenced by the other country to the extent that it has become like a puppet for that of their country. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: so what i want to talk about now is whether iran can add to its profits as a result of the uprising of the people of the region are not. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and tunisia, certainly this is not going to happen. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and tunisia, civil society a strong command even since the area that has been secular. laws have been passed in this
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regard than the strength of the civil society in that country will not permit it to become a puppet of iran. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and tunisia, will have democracy after getting rid of ben ali. [speaking arabic] >> translator: we know that a democratic government, national interest are always at issue. [speaking arabic] >> translator: in egypt, the situation is a little bit different. [speaking arabic] >> translator: islamic radical groups are stronger in that country.
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>> translator: specifically the islamic brotherhood. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the probability of one dictator in the deed and replacing it is high, like what happened in iran in 1979. [speaking arabic] >> translator: in 1979, whitaker is against the shower, which was a nondemocratic government and we wanted independence and freedom. however, up to now we have not achieved that.
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>> translator: therefore, we have to pay attention that getting rid of a dictator is not enough. we have to replace it with democracy. [speaking the [speaking arabic] >> translator: look at egypt. they have gotten rid of the liter. will we have democracy there? [speaking arabic] >> translator: and maybe too early to judge now. [speaking arabic] >> translator: but even if a religious state peter comes into power, egypt will not become a public iran on the basis. they are sunnis and iranians.
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said 10 >> translator: unfortunately, there have always been differences and conflicts between the shiites and the sunnis. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: iran and egypt do not have immediate mutual interest so they can unify. [speaking arabic] >> translator: also, egypt has always considered itself the big brother of islamic countries and
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african countries, whereas on the others say the iranian iranian government considered itself the leader of the whole islamic world. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: and unfortunately, the government of iran and the other party votes have great sentiment. when inspiration and when his arab. sub 10 [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: on the basis of the four reasons, there will be room patients -- trade relations and political relations between iran and egypt, but it's been our motivation, like the relations of iran and italy, egypt is not going to become a puppet of iran. [speaking arabic] last night [laughter] >> translator: both ben ali and hosni mubarak said powers so sweet that when they left, they both had heart attacks. the [speaking arabic]
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[laughter] >> translator: i don't know when, but maybe in the near future gadhafi will have a heart attack. sub 10 [speaking arabic] >> translator: when gadhafi has had heart attack and leave the country, particularly two to the fact the west has helped people when, libya is not going to become a puppet of iran because they are not going to forget what the west has done for it.
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the people of syria, the majority of the of the people his theory of our sunni, whereas the family car she is and for the last 50 years, the minority, meaning the assad family have been really know what the majority who are the people. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the people of syria are tired of the tater ship of the asad family and the present. [speaking arabic] >> translator: unfortunately, the government of iran sends forces to the government of syria to repress its people. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: the people of syria are certainly going to win. [speaking arabic] >> translator: history has proven that no government, no undemocratic government will be there forever. it is certain that deicide family will have to leave. it is only the time we can tell. [speaking arabic] >> translator: badly, i'm going to have a heart attack, too. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: therefore, the relationship that exists today will change what the people and if there is a relation it will be like a hokey relation, political relations. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and the government of a ramble is influence in syria. [speaking arabic] the important issue is regarding yemen and bahrain.
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the [speaking arabic] >> translator: and these two common machines by the minority. very different kind front line of the uprising and they are being killed and repressed badly. [speaking arabic] >> translator: saudi arabia sent forces to buy rain to help the government to kill my people. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the world has closed its eyes on the killing of sheep and buy rain and yemen. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: deal the country that supports them and i want to repeat, the only country that supports them is iran. there is financial support. iran provides them an even iran has brought a complaint to the united nations. [speaking arabic] >> translator: on the data people win and i'm sure they will plan, you know how many people exist they are would appreciate iran? [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: let's not forget that both countries, yemen and bahrain are small countries. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: i remember at the time that i went to school, we were taught that bahrain was a province of iran. [speaking arabic] >> translator: it gained its independence later. [speaking arabic] >> translator: they are both small countries with regard to the power of iran, with regard
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to the largeness of the country of iran and population of iran. both of these countries can become puppets of politics of iran. [speaking arabic] >> translator: we have to be aware that these two countries do not follow within the trap of iran and iran's unhealthy should not go there. sub 10 [speaking arabic] >> translator: and helping
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them -- [speaking arabic] [speaking arabic] >> translator: twice a many people as were killed and tunisia and egypt have been killed in bahrain and yemen. however, when it came to tunisia and egypt, then all he had to leave. posting mubarak had to listen to people. however, it looks like they have closed their eyes and ears when it comes to this she has been killed and bahrain and in yemen.
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: what kind of behavior should we have towards nondemocratic government? [speaking arabic] >> translator: i am not talking about yemen, bahrain and iran. i am talking in general. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the worst solution is a military attack. [speaking arabic] >> translator: remember that democracy is not merchandise to be exported to a country. [speaking arabic] >> translator: democracy cannot be purchased and sent to another country.
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: therefore, war and military attacks are nondemocratic countries should be forgotten. [speaking arabic] >> translator: to take taters actually like to be attacked by the foreigners so that on the excuse of national security, they can put away their opposition. set [speaking arabic] >> translator: they are not correct today because they will hurt the people.
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the [speaking arabic] >> translator: notwithstanding the 10 years of economic sanctions against iraq, that is still there, whereas the numbers people died as a result of being deprived of food and medication. said 10 >> translator: i always recommend political sanctions instead of economic sanctions. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and what is a political sanctions? [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: its measure taken against violators of human rights that do not hurt the people. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: fortunately, the duty to keep out that we spoke of -- about are on the list that the european union have been politically sanctioned. this is the first time in history that this is happening.
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: therefore, small sanctions of dictators are one of political sanctions. [speaking arabic] transcode the other measure would be to reduce the level of political ambassadors from the ambassador to a lower level with nondemocratic countries. as for countries that believe in democracy and human rights. [speaking arabic]
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[speaking arabic] [speaking arabic] >> translator: for example, i want to talk about the european union after the terrors of iran and europe, one of them was at the restaurant where the tribunal was held in the other one was assassination of dr. bestiary. the countries in europe lowered the level at the embassy level
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and most of the ambassadors left tehran. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: what he said was the issue have been secured europe and this is why we went to recall our ambassadors. [speaking arabic] >> translator: for approximately six months, no european ambassadors for in iran. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and this resulted in the assassination in europe being reduced. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: and the most important thing in political sanctions is the international criminal court. sub
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: violators of human rights should be referred to the international court. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and in order to be able to try violators of human rights in the sport, we have strengthened the court. said 10 >> translator: all of the european countries has the international court conventions. [speaking arabic] >> translator: approximately 90 countries have ratified. [speaking arabic] >> translator: but the international criminal court has a few serious enemies that stop
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its progress. [speaking arabic] >> translator: israel, america, china and russia. [speaking arabic] [speaking arabic] >> translator: and i want to ask you, the progressive citizens of the united states to put pressure on your government to ratify the international criminal court convention. the ratification of the united states will strengthen this court.
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: america is a superpower and can play an important role in the expansion of the ics we and in some jurisdictions. [speaking arabic] >> translator: we are in the globalization era. we see trade has become globalized, but justice has to become globalized as well. [speaking arabic] >> translator: in nondemocratic countries, where they take taters devilish shadow
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is on the judiciary, how can we expect justice? [speaking arabic] >> translator: therefore, there is norther solution but for the international criminal court to try them. [speaking arabic] >> translator: in the globalization era, our fico altogether, are entangled. [speaking arabic] >> translator: in the event that happens in any country can in fact happened in other countries. we shouldn't be in different to the estate of the people. [speaking arabic]
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>> translator: what we live for ourselves but we should want for ourselves. [speaking arabic] >> translator: [speaking arabic] was cooperate and plant the seed of cooperation might fear. >> translator: and spread the love for humanity. [speaking arabic] >> translator: let's be kind to each other. [applause]
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>> .or ebadi has agreed to take a few questions. i will call anyone at a time. i'd ask you to keep your questions very brief. introduce yourself and make it an actual question rather than a statement. >> to think the united states, other countries that are silent on bahrain are in a way plane into the hands of the islamic republic of iran, which would like to either protect terrors of bahrain's protesters? or by ignoring the events in bahrain, are we actually hoping
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>> i would like to ask my question in persian. [speaking in native tongue] [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: resolving the international criminal court, there is some problems. for example, the court had summoned omar bashir, they haven't be able to arrest him. so what are your recommendations in this regard?
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[speaking arabic] >> translator: yes, it is true that ahmed bashir has not been arrested here but had he not been summoned to the international criminal court, he would have killed another 100,000 or more than that. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: and it was for the deterrent that the icc had the international criminal court ted he agreed to the cessation and now it is becoming a different country. [speaking arabic] >> translator: he cannot sleep properly if he can't go anywhere. sub 10
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[speaking native language] n]. >> and english? [laughter] and my first question was regarding the grain movement and if really it is the people who are behind this and of their activities will help overthrow the government and the second question is about i run man's living outside of iran how can we help our people who are fighting for freedom and justice?
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[speaking native language] [laughter] >> translator: one of the benefits of having a spotlight is it can drive the blind and the agreement is a democratic movement not the ideological one. [speaking native language] >> translator: the green movement doesn't have the construct of a political party meeting that few people at the top do not make orders are direct implements. it is the expansion is
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horizontal and done on the network basis. [speaking native language] >> translator: and they are not leaders of the movement but they walk along with it and their presence has strengthened the movement. [speaking native language] >> translator: within this movement people with different ideologies exist, and a different groups and some of them believe we have to throw the constitution out. [speaking native language]
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>> translator: but some others think this will not be possible without bloodshed. so the best thing to do is use the present constitution. there are articles in the constitution they guarantee people's rights but have never been implemented. [speaking native language] >> translator: for example, like the rights of association, other rights of political parties. the rights of ethnic groups teaching the mother tongue to their children. [speaking native language]
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>> translator: i cannot tell which group will win let's wait and see what the future calls for. [speaking native language] >> translator: but up until this moment the government does not show any flexibility or listen to the people. [speaking native language] >> translator: with regard to the degree of the unhappiness of the people and the bad economic
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situation, i see iran as fire under the ashes. but when they will be blown away, i do not know. i cannot tell you. [speaking native language] >> translator: what can the iranians from the outside do? [speaking native language] >> translator: it depends on the person what one can do. never betty has to be a political prisoner there are things that people can do. [speaking native language] >> translator: for
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example, if one is a doctor maybe they could send medication are other medications that are scarce. [speaking native language] >> translator: o.r. create doctors without borders for iran or for the use to recruit young doctors that exist and there are a number of them [speaking native language] >> translator: if you're an engineer teach the people of iran how to get rid of the filtering of the internet.
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[speaking native language] >> translator: therefore there is not one single prescription i can write it depends what the people can do for iran what can the students do? [speaking native language] [laughter] [applause] >> translator: the best thing a student can do is study well and go back to iran >> yes, i have had an interesting and fun life i do not owe any of it to the feminist at. [laughter] i will tell you that. feminism has become a hot
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topic rice suppose the reason for that is sarah palin they cannot resist attacking sarah palin and not because she is a republican and a conservative but because she is a successful woman and has a cool husband and a great career making lots of money and is buy any standard, a success and they cannot stand it. absinthe is that she is pretty as well. [laughter] so the the minister believe women can be successful in the united states. they think they are held down by a three men and need the government to rescue them that is terry unfortunate but they never talk about successful women margaret thatcher, condoleezza rice what about the wonderful women that were elected last
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november outside and 2010? it turned out they were all republicans am pro-life and that is not what the fan and is planned at all is simply do not recognize success. one of the reason is to do the right equal rights amendment they did not believe i was doing well was due they conjured a conspiracies like the insurance company word financing me or some other $0.9. with the ideology of telling young women you are victims of the oppressive society is so unfortunate if you wake up in the morning and believe that you probably will not accomplish anything whether you are a man or a woman. many of the real feminists, most of them think abortion is the litmus test the one and then new-line feminists just wrote a few weeks ago that the definition of feminism
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is that we are under the oppressive patriarch and they have to work to overturn that and stop it. that is what feminism is. it is not true working for e quality. they are for empowerment by the female left you find they don't empower all women but want to make an alliance so it is the female left that has become so powerful when it allies itself with the obama administration when the feminist movement got under way late '60s and early '70s they did not call themselves feminism but the women's liberation movement and of what do they want to be liberated from? home, has been, a
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family, children. so you find they were encouraging women to be independent of men and that is why they were big supporters of divorce and look upon marriage as a very confining role in life. glorious steinem's said 1a1 gets married she becomes a semi 9% and betty freedman said the life of a wife and mother who was living in a comfortable concentration camp. that was the attitude. the social degradation of women was a major goal of the feminist movement and really they were not using the argument taking to in comes to support the family. that is not why. they wanted to get out of
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