well it seems like we don't handle it very well here in our own organizations. so i am highly troubled by what had happened and if i may sing you a song that. >> could i just said the program note that the musician in question who will not be appearing tomorrow night is a syrian musician and whose popular song has caused some controversy. >> is going to be much more popular than it ever was. i was not a big fan of it. i didn't mean for you to hear it. >> if i may just another quick programming note. declined as a result of the

musicians participation. [applause] we would have appreciated hearing from her but that was her decision. >> i've been troubled all day weather to come or not and i came because you are here and because of my colleagues. i am really troubled. my country is i and i am a country. your love is a fire in my heart. when will i see you free oh my country? when will the sun of the noble rise in your skies? when will the -- for loyalty and love? when will your earth be fed by the river of virtue? nourished by the martyr's blood and the stronger will? the people crying out, freedom to the nation, freedom to the nation.

oh my country, cradle of humanity, the light of civilization, land of the prophets and the martyrs. we call out to the god of heaven to lift all harm off of you my country, my people and all humankind. [speaking in native tongue] [speaking in native tongue]

[speaking in native tongue] [applause] >> these words are a the source of the trouble, then we are in deep trouble and god will remove the plight of egypt and tunisia is on its way and libya and as you know, yemen got a taste of hell before going there on its way out and hopefully -- syria and the rain and the rest of the ill missions that we come from. [applause]

>> tell us what do you foresee for egypt, elections are slated for the fall parliamentary elections. where do you think the future lies for the egyptian revolution? >> let me, allow me to say a couple of things first. >> go right ahead. >> before we go back to egypt. [laughter] you have a very good voice. you should sing it. in your son's wedding. [laughter] >> how about tomorrow night? >> i want to invite you tomorrow night to sing tomorrow that song. >> it i would hate to ruin it for the singer's. >> let you just had a couple of statements and i agree with you. you are a professor of political science and i may doctor so we have different opinions about certain things. i see the arab-americans are very mature and very democratic

and very civilized at least in this country. i have been here for 40 years, so the arab-americans, are they a reflection to what is happening in the middle east? >> i don't think so. and i have multiple discussions with my friends and i neighbors and my children as well. what we saw in the middle east is not the media in the west say happens overnight. by and the product of bell nasser, in egypt in 1952 and he died and anwar sadat came after and then anwar sadat was assassinated and then mubarak came. none of the egyptian people

accepted the revolution was going to be the standard of the egyptian culture. we had several issues with the revolution and the consequences of the revolution, especially when the communist party came to egypt and. >> in 1952? >> yes, 1952. the 25th of january revolution is the youth, the young people. they were not afraid to say no to mubarak and his regime. the old people there, the 50s and the 60s today in egypt, they would not do it without the young people. the young people, the funny thing is, these ministers in egypt and the prominent business people and politicians, their children are the ones.

they go home and the revolution was again of their parents. you know it was so funny and i don't want to name some names of local business people in egypt. they go home and a talk they talk with their children. why in the hell did you go to tahrir square today? the boy will say why not dad? i'm going to be there for whole week. his father's going to lose his job and is going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars of transaction that occurred during mubarak time. so, it was a boiling situation and they were waiting for something to happen and what really triggered the situation was tunisia. and that man that burned himself just to feed himself and his family, that was a heartbreaking story to all of the arabs in the middle east.

yes, and then when the egyptians heard that and all of these young people and the media started to communicate with facebook and twitter and so on they are really the owners of the revolution. and the question is, how are the old people in egypt going to cope with this open mind? it is a huge question. you have got people in the last 50 or 60 years, that used to do things one way. now all of a sudden their children are coming up with a totally different way. that is why the prime minister of egypt, he is not doing a good job because there is a huge -- between the 50 and 60 and 80-year-old cabinet members and they cannot communicate with the rest of the revolution. >> he even even given parliamentary elections are slated for the fall today's "washington post" has a story about the movement.

what is your sense of its power and its coalition with the muslim brotherhood and will egyptians turn toward a more fundamentalist form of islam and approach their new government in that way? >> i would like to take this opportunity to ask the usaid to finance $30 million to do a web site, e-mail, electronics. >> 30 million? >> $30 million for electronic voting for the egyptians. then i will go back to the -- okay? but i would like to take this opportunity to ask my audience here who really say yes we need the money to do electronic -- [applause] >> how might electronic voting change the outcome? >> i'm not sure how many objections are here but even if you are an american here, please allow me to say that in a

country that is 50% illiterate, how do you expect democracy to be established? you cannot have democracy and illiteracy in the same room. number one. number two, india -- india is a different story, totally different story. number two, how do we characterize the civilization of such a country is by how effective the women are in leading their society. these are the two factors that we need to look at. to answer your question, the salehi yes because you about 3.5 million egyptians to go to saudi arabia to work there as teachers and farmers and so on and so forth and after 25 years to go back home to egypt and they bring with them the saudi

culture. >> it's an economic issue. people provide jobs, build your own economy, build your own society. >> besides, why we are afraid of salehi and muslim brotherhood. we shouldn't. the question should be, can we make the muslim brotherhood more open-minded like we do here? why do we have to ask ourselves are we afraid of someone to attack us? it should be the opposite. and why are we afraid for our shadow? i consider the muslim brotherhood and the salafi are the shadows of the current regime. the regime is gone. now we have new people. there is no shadow any more. the question is today how we can make civilized society. >> i think the response to that

is the more these groups are in the open, the more their ideas come and the more they will be up for debate. you may have heard of tahrir and tunisia. they are very obsessed about -- and so on. he said we will have democratic elections and give tahrir wins there will be no more elections. so that guy of course laws. he said okay, you are done for. so he declared his agenda very clearly. tunisia was probably more liberal than elsewhere. in libya -- libya will give it to them. the issue is whether our organizations operate in the open or not. you know extremism, where where

did osama bin laden and that? he ended up in one of the least literate places in the world up in the mountains know extremism and illiteracy combined and also working and the dark comes together. but once you open up the space and these ideas come, what does the cell if you want to? it is not something most egyptian societies would wish for. it is not and then what kind of programs do they have to solve unemployment? what do islam must have for unemployment? what do they have for housing? they have to have a program. >> they don't have an agenda. >> exactly they don't have a solution. >> they don't have a solution or an agenda. i think i would like to add that islam as a religion has been hijacked. and i think the question for the west and us, you are asking what

arab-americans would like to do. we have an obligation toward mankind in the middle east. they misunderstand the religion and what democracy is all about. they misunderstand americans to be honest with you. i go to egypt and i see a lot of people saying my god, america is bad and so on and so forth. i think we have a huge task ahead of us. the usaid and the united states government were sponsoring a regime of mubarak for many years through his government to reach the people. i think it should be how can we reach the people without having the government in the middle to take bribery and commission? >> that is right. [applause] first of all on the question of elections, the u.s. government and usaid is absolutely committed to partnering with the people of egypt and the government of egypt to nurture

and create artistic vittori systems to enable the people of egypt to transform their lives in a democratic and modern way, and so there are dialogues going on and we are working together to do that. as to the specific idea you have, we would be pleased to talk about it afterward to move forward but absolutely we are partnering in that regard and in fact you know, in response to the transformation in egypt and the departure of president mubarak usaid shifts, as i alluded too early shifts the way it does programming to make it possible for ordinary egyptians, for nonprofit organizations in egypt to apply directly to usaid within a framework that i outlined and particularly again in the area of democracy so they -- civic engagement is one area and election and political processes is another area. access to justice is another

area and civic participation is a fifth area. in the area of economic growth because we believe that, you know, we believe that in addition to democratic systems we also need to nurture the economy at this time of transition. we have set aside significant portions of money to also work in five areas which include youth employment, microand small enterprise, local and community development, private-sector partnerships and poverty alleviation so again it is in partnership with the government but at the same time successful by the people. with held town hall meetings across egypt in english and arabic in cairo and upper egypt and we have had i believe over a thousand people and hundreds of nonprofit organizations participate in this process. what we envision again is an arab world and an egypt in this case led by the people of egypt to create the country that they want to go that is what this

administration believes in and that is what this president believes in and that is what usaid believes and. >> well, that was very nice. i think --. >> it is what is in your heart. you didn't do it in bahrain. u.s. bahrain to die. and palestine. in your heart, you know the arabic expression. i would say the u.s. will work with democracy if it goes in tandem with u.s. interest even though president obama said himself you know these democratic changes, we have to work them even though they may be counter to our interest. so i think obama is smart enough to realize these democracies in the long run will be good for the u.s. and for those countries, but he also realizes there may be some short-term in

midterm tensions. >> before we open it up to the audience. >> may i just add one thing about arab-americans? what we can do is arab-americans is -- this incident about the song in the end it ended up being a incident of protecting the syrian regime from itself. you can experience anyway you want. the result is a d.c. doesn't want a song that protest the syrian regime. i think we as an organization -- it is hypocritical of us to lobby against israel and not to say a word about our efforts. not to say a word about -- not to say a word about any of it. [applause] how do we live like this? how do we live with the idea of having principles for human rights, for all of mankind, for all of our arab can and to say no we only want them in america.

we can't work in the arab world. i know all of you are watching what happens in tahrir and tunisia. you tell me that this doesn't matter to adc? it doesn't make any sense. so in a sense, from being only a lobby against israel if you will four for our own interest here in the u.s., we need to now become a lobby for the arab population and this will make us stronger. we will have a wedge between oppression and these regimes if we continue by upholding the american principles that we live under. then we can do some work. but cozying up to these regimes is really embarrassing and it is time to stop it. that is enough. [applause]

>> thank you very much. would like to open up questions to our audience. please come forward, state your name, your affiliation and if you may stand up, and it appeared away such that the cameras can focus on you. thank you very much. go right ahead. >> first of all i want to thank khaled for singing a song for us. >> i didn't sing it. i just read it. [laughter] >> tomorrow morning. >> okay and i want to say it is just outrageous the fact that adc did not have one speaker from syria to talk about the atrocities at the syrian government is committing every day towards the syrian people and it is just really embarrassing. being the president and the chair i think and not allowing the syrian singers to talk about the musicians, to give the

syrian people a contribution and just to support the cause, think this is outrageous. this is one thing i want to say. >> do you have a question? >> yes, i want to ask. >> could you state your name and where you are from. >> i am from syria, from damascus. [applause] i want to ask mr. amr what is the united states willing to do to try to take the syrian government and the current regime and probably try to stop those atrocities and mass murders that have been committed every day? >> thank you. so, let me preface my remarks which will be limited, with the following which is that, which is that i work at the united states international development which is not, which is not the

foreign-policy arm of the united states government so there is you know, there are policies in the government so i can share with you you a few remarks but it is not the role of the usaid to state u.s. foreign-policy. begin of the united states is clearly condemning the government's mass murder and the rest of its people. we have recently opposed additional sanctions on the regime including president assad and his inner circle and we stand by the syrian people who have shown their courage and demanding a transition to democracy. president assad is the choice that he can lead the transition or get out of the way. that has been clearly stated by the president of the united states, secretary of state of the united states but in my position i'm not at liberty to elaborate further on the existing state of the administration. >> please take your name and where you are from. >> my name is samir.

i was baptized presbyterian where'd -- was invented in 1945. i've been here 47 years. i am a syrian artful draft dodger. my prayer is that the brothers and sisters here, arab-americans, will form an american task force for syria, just like we had an american task force for palestine, american task force for lebanon, because syria is a special place like egypt is a special place. all those places over there are special places. and so, with this body here, and with the other bodies that you all belong to, let's form a task force for syria and because ralph nader wrote only the super

rich , let's draft ralph nader starting now -- he is going to be here tomorrow. let's draft ralph nader for a peace party in syria and in three years dr. bechard is supposed to be coming up for renewal. maybe we will have an election. we will have a two-party system in syria and we will have ralph nader as president of syria. so the question is for you and usaid, can we have some -- funding for this project? we have an air of peace party in syria where arab-americans who are like-minded bill draft ralph

nader. >> just tell them no. just say no. [laughter] >> what i can say is -- what i can say, what i can say is that when the time comes, the united states will be ready to stand by and support democratic transition throughout the arab world, country by country. >> next question, please. >> i am from detroit. i'm a long-time activist and i just want to make an observation that i came here excited about analyses of the arab spring and iac a gloom actually. on the bright side, i am excited about the arab spring. is the most phenomenal, the most

wonderful event that we have witnessed, that i've witnessed it. [applause] i don't see that discussion on the panel at all and i'm really shocked on the composition of the panel. no slam to adc. ica dissonance to what the arab-americans believe. i see dissidents to at the arab people believe. i don't need to beg money. i would don't want a idea money. i want democracy in my land, among our people. and all the values and all the statements and all the statements of a.i.d. that you can pronounce here, $1.5 billion, $3 billion to israel and the occupation continues, is hollow. it is hollow. i don't need your money. i need your principles for support. i thought obama would come and do something different. it turns out he's just another

bush, vis-à-vis israel and palestine. okay the question. how many water wells has the a.i.d. repaired in gaza? that were destroyed by israel? and why would they be allowed to be destroyed in the first place? these are the questions that i don't even want to ask. i'm just sharing that out loud. i believe that i reflect the sense of this audience. [applause] >> how many water wells, was that the question? i don't have the data but i would be happy to share them with you. afterwards. >> question please. your name and affiliation? >> my name is trent taylor. i'm from kansas city, missouri.

i would like to echo the comments made before me but i do have an actual question. this is for mr. mattawa. on different notes that similar, first, as a student of history and as the news observer, i am wary of the military involvement by outside forces in both egypt and libya. while in different contexts, i am speaking to the egyptian armies role as the caretaker in the current regime and more specifically in libya, the role of nato which has exceeded its

original mandate to maintain the no-fly zone is now more of an act that combatant in bolivian conflict. my general question to both parties is, what are your thoughts on the possibility that these military forces may hijack the democratic revolution? >> thank you. >> thank you. son tally in egypt, i have met with him and tomorrow i am having dinner with the egyptian ambassador in washington and the. from a conversation which i had with the provincial candidates in cairo, including mr. broady mr. broady -- baradar a., it,

the fear is there but it is not strong. the military would like to go back as soon as probably january, february of 2012. now, we have not seen a leadership that comes from the army, a young leadership to satisfy the needs of the egyptian people for a leader. i don't see that. i see many civilians, presidential candidates that and fill in the position. the army is the army. i don't think the egyptian people are willing to accept any military regime to run the government anymore and i think it was very clear during the january 25 revolution. ..

i don't think this could be possible. let me take this from the audience that the muslim brotherhood is a combination of

integral and political system. it has been involved with every village and town. we have places such as the ymca. in america we ymca basically in every town. we don't have the muslim brotherhood youth hostels. you're very much involved with everyday science. that's why we have deep roots and grassroots among. lots of people in the west, while the muslim brotherhood is going to destroy the christianity or destroy the church and so on. there have been violations. the violence was three weeks ago

and the leaders that the people that they want to enter. and there were young people, muslims and they told what happened. it was organized crime. it was totally organized crime and world money exchange, money laundering and summary dealers. >> of army in the interest of time, thank you for that insight. very complex situation in egypt this certainly can't be wrapped up in just a few minutes. let me turn back to our audience. state your name and affiliation. >> i'm from san francisco, originally from palestine and i represent u.s.-palestinian

network. my question is at the beginning of this discussion can be imagined it would take a long time in egypt to get stability, especially very set in and way, just from the resolution happened. it's interesting because this is a good question about the muslim brotherhood. it's a very organized group of people. is it going to take a long time because we were trying to, you know, gather or organize the other voices in together leadership that represents -- to represent the egyptian people? or how his leadership coming around? how do the grassroots people choose a leader bolick and the muslim brotherhood already established for years and years. thank you.

>> i think there are several. one, as you may have noticed the constitutional referendum that happened in egypt, which many people have -- had to revisit because people wanted deeper form of the constitution. there were those who wanted the constitution pretty much to remain the same or have very few amendments in it. so in a way, it's not that different with the army. it was to emphasize the mesenteric or in do not really want to specular eyes were democratized in a deeper sense. they want to be able to prosecute people who are sorted same things that that are not except to vote religiously, et cetera. so right now when he shipped it

seems like they are sort of working out a deal, which could in fact satisfy the u.s. can get is kind of -- sort of a democratic work. it would be like turkey in the 70s or so, we have started a a -- the military doesn't want to change because the military is a middle-class. if you go to future and cairo to anywhere, you will see club after club, the officers club, they go on vacation all over the country. some of them are millionaires. they own apartments that they rent out. so the military, even the middle don't really want a lot of change. they didn't want mubarak. so now it doesn't mean they want

to be read. and they want to consolidate the country religiously, but they want themselves to be divine. the military to waziristan has a younger generation, mostly americans who are maybe used to the idea of separation of power within the military and government, but the top, which is the soviet, maybe not. but again, the leadership of one in the 70s and 80s and they operate like a soviet confidant. so they are not that democratic. so there is bad. then you go back to libya for a second, which is to say it has begun painful and may remain

painful. i think the idea of wishing for leadership to emerge is probably one of the worst things we can impose. it's not really have charismatic leaders who will attract people. now when i listen to god. i can't believe we believe that. so let us be more open until something emerges. and then we are to thank god we have a very boring leadership. they cannot keep us from falling asleep and that his work for a while. politics needs to be the ark of the possible, but ultimately needs to be a quiet partner. there are lots of things to hatch up and not these countries. the unemployment -- i mean, after the violence. in the outcome if we we have freedom of expression and openness about the prophecies,

we will all benefit. these events are important because new identities are being born. when you have people in libya, when are you in february, that's when the. in egypt, new lies have begun. but it doesn't mean that it's not going to be painful. all kinds of people are quickly emulate the more open and more fluid. we should sort of role that the changes. you know, democracy in america took a long time. >> remember how he died? another leader, another founding father killed him. things take time. so why do we went to errors just like that when you guys can relate. so give us time, but also let's

insist on openness. >> thank you. very well said. [applause] we think you're looking for leadership that is technocrat. a tremendous need for the technical skills that it takes four countries and new versions of government. >> in the end, they may -- technocrats have a different view. you know, they have souls, to. >> bring out the personality. >> by me just say we enjoyed reading your technocrat. >> question, please. >> hi, my name is matthew zone and i'm a student at washington lee university in and turning out washington on middle east

affairs. the abu dhabi center released a report on public opinion in egypt since revolution. within that report was the statistic that over half egyptians, the 52% oppose any kind of u.s. economic aid. that's not even including political aide, which is about 75% opposed. naturally, that might be because of a sickly to view at the u.s. involvement in the middle east and perhaps the full understanding town where it is going. how does usaid tend to improve how egyptians perceive and how individuals throughout the middle east perceive its work and perhaps our different channels or aid and development, more multilateral, multinational channels with other option. >> thank you for your question. first of all, you know, we recognize that we have challenges, but we recognize -- and they're a diversity of

opinions. the government stands ready, as i said earlier to partner with the society that one apartment. we had the egyptian societies seeking a partnership in the areas of election. and we recognize there are others and we stand ready to work with people in egypt and the government egypt to shape a better future for all. we've already made this change, so we have shifted from a peer of bilateral program associated with the government to one where we articulate hey, we are setting aside this amount of money, $50 million to work in democracy and government. these are the areas we want to work in. we want your ideas. we want to be seeking proposals for me to tell us how you would like to spend that money. we've done the same thing in economic growth.

so, that's an intentional way that we have shifted how we are doing our work. anything from what we can tell from the massive response we got from people all over egypt, not just from alexandria, teams that are tremendous for pursuing that pathway. we know it will take time and you know, we stand committed with the people of egypt to create societies that are democratic, the increase in employment and are prospered. >> i would like to add a comment, too. i think your question is very family. i hear for many egyptians that they would like to ask her for the u.s. government to stop the usaid program. i have a dialogue with many of

them. and then, one of those guys that i believe in the mission of the united states of america as a democratic nation. that's why were here. that's why i'm sitting where i am today, because i believe in this country. and if i something differently, then i would eat hypocrite. and i hear some hippocratic remarks that the government in the middle east, so i think we're confusing, we are mixed up. but they did to the egyptians, we note that since it has been very good education. the usaid money that came from the jet were sent to the infrastructure, whether as well

as, health care, sewer system, underground facilities. >> i didn't pay them. >> i didn't pay you to say that. >> i think we are as americans, we should say what good things and i think we should be fair. now is an egyptian american i am proud of the contribution and a thank you for the u.s. government contribution to each other. >> and the taxpayers. >> this is all about money here. that is why we are here. but regarding the usaid money, it has been very positive, the egyptian lifestyle of today. >> let me go back to questions. >> im director at the the center for responsive policy. i am palestinian.

we heard mr. on and we have been hearing officials said the united states that are announcing the use of violence again it's people. i am not regard of asking why does slate are not silly if it's good enough or not good enough and what can be done because i believe at the end it's the rule of the people and democracy and other people is appreciated their role and democratic rules by other countries. to my question, and i know you're not responsive on the foreign policy, but i'm asking for your opinion is why we never heard any announcing a fusing of violence from the israeli government against its people. it's other people against the people unless we are supporting in syria. thank you. [applause]

>> again, a thank you for your question. i think the president has clearly articulated his views -- the views of the united states government pursuing peace between israelis and palestinians into a palestinian state based on a 1967 borders with land swap. that is the position of the united states government. >> question please. thank you. >> yes, thank you. my name is none higher sheet i am actually a physician and a community activist. i am from atlanta and originally from lebanon. and you know, i want to acolytes think some of the other participants here, the excitement we have. of course we are here for the arab american committee. we been up to fight terror for civil rights as arab-americans, but i haven't yet heard, at

least on the u.s. level a strong voice by the community and one solid voice supporting arab uprising. we are here to discuss -- the issues are complex or not here to solve everything. we urge you to sport how is this an arab-american community support the arab uprising? this is what i would like to mention? what are we really doing? for example, from the usaid perspective, are we supporting education? for example, to strength and democratic systems in the arab world. i worked in egypt for two years. i know what level the education system is not. the other thing, are we supporting women? the role of women in yemen and egypt has been extremely amazing. i mean, when she went to prison, she really turned up the whole situation. what are we doing to really

educate these women about how to be better democratic forces? there was a question earlier about whether the arab world is ready for democracy. of course they are. are we ready for them to be a democratic nation? but then, my question is, democracy is an exercise. democracy doesn't develop overnight either. if we want these countries to be strong democracies, we have to help them. it's our role as arab-americans to really do this kind of technology transfer. i wanted to ask mr. ansara if they would support arab-americans working together with other periods in the air countries to do that because i think we have a lot of capacities here, not to be overestimating our capacities, but as mr. -- i'm sorry,

dr. ashley ansara said the mobile have the benefit that we are thankful for the opportunities they got in this country. i think we have to give back a little. we have families, a lot we care about culture wise, family wise on all aspects of the airport and i think we need to mobilize as a community tour together with the government to actually provide this kind of support. we cannot just blame the government. it is our role to do that. [applause] >> at usaid we have to work with the government. >> we work with governments. why don't answer the question that will help with the follow-up question. first of all, for decades, partnering with the government and people of the arab world's work on education, health care, agriculture, roads, infrastructure, civil society, really across the board in some dramatic ways.

and it really to ask you to her website. and also, we have a table -- a registration table we can get a lot more information -- a lot more information. you asked the question about, resigned to partner with the arab-american community to help transform society in the middle east? the answer is absolutely yes. were already doing a been a computer program attack without and we also have something called development grant program and office of development partners, where we are willing to work with american ngos, willing to work with and just in the arab world to apply for u.s. government funding to undertake projects on their society. we have a vision for what actors in what countries those processes can be done in. it's available at our website and the folks on a table upstairs in the registration area should be altogether more

information on it. but the answer is yes, absolutely yes we want to do that. it's a passion of ours, passion of richey shah, the head of usaid, with new ngos. if you haven't worked with usaid before coming to get a double welcome because we have a special program to help new institutions that haven't worked with usaid to learn the system because it is a complex and domain situation, that yes absolutely. >> i will add to that. i think in the end, usaid would be an expensive u.s. foreign policy and as much connections can be made between ngos, unfortunately they are slow and they are bureaucracies and they

don't always have a lot of money. and i think what we as arab-americans, we should really skip over this and so on. there's the idea of something without orders. eric without borders. there are ways that can be done. the peace corps -- how many americans go? >> u.s. government has a catalog. >> will you allow me? [laughter] i don't know. >> i have a lot of friends. but you're right. your point, which is interesting as arab-american participation in civic engagement is important. >> if you want to go, go there. there's lots to do. civil society is blossoming into

arab countries. in syria, not to end it will have hopefully the regime. libya in north of egypt. there is something going on. really explain on their own. without having to go through them. but i think civil society is really where it's at. the idea will promote the culture and ideas coming across, within our culture, not just individual. what happens in a lot of these programs, remote sordid american elite, what happens in european or american family want these people to create a communities. and now it is much more possible than ever. >> the air up community needs to

usaid all the time or have the time, but something can be done. you just have to make sure the money is here otherwise to go after you. >> finding money is always the hard part. they've got one more question before we wrap it up. >> apparently that's me. i am from north waziristan. i don't know where to start, but we arab-americans are proud of what we are. we are proud of the american system that gave us the opportunity, which is life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. so this is great. this is to direct their ansara. we came here we were given the opportunity. so we put that aside. now let's take the other side. this life, liberty, pursuit of

happiness, which is the american motto does not apply to a lot of people. the usaid is the more field that really so does the air people to live under the mubarak's and the salé and so on. so essentially, i wish people would revolt, not only against the people, but against those building the road here and allow the mubarak to skip over his people over the last 30 years. i resumed this site, so i think the revolution really should have multifaceted. one of them is to change regimes to become independent. the other world is undergoing and realistic and domination.

they really cannot change much. what is happening on the middle east is these resolutions are being hijacked by the usaid money and we wanted to change it. but we accept the election of the brotherhood to mehran egypt? i tell if because they killed millions of people in algeria because they refuse democratic elections. they refuse the democratic election of hamas. so we are looking for who they wanted in power. and if that person does not come to power, they will not accept it. so my question is, when are we going to really move forward and understand it this way and function according? >> thank you. [applause] i'd be happy to answer. >> we just have a few minutes.

>> i really hear you. and this is funny because i came from a family of seven children. i am the oldest. i immigrated to america 40 years ago. one of my brothers died in 1973. and i went there and i can imagine the face of my father. my other brother is a higher key minister. and my sister is one of the leaders of the women's muslim brotherhood. so what kind of family and really makes you wonder? thanks to mom and dad because they brought us our life to make ourselves free. that's why we have supplied my household.

but to answer your question, the mistake is not the united states government. the mistakes that corrupt people from its own is more corrupted and allow them to come into our homes. each country has its own strategy, israel has done strategy, united states, korea, china, saudi arabia. but in this country, we are demonstrating the society and the refusal of some people within a society who destroy the society problem, that our own problem. we should rebuild our home to other countries for saudi arabia correct good the government. >> let me allow remarks.

>> we are to monitor and be careful with how americans can operate. every poor country is corruptible. it's very easy. you can't tell you poor man not to take a bribe. you know, in egypt, prices go up for you because you have hard currents. people want it. so you can't say this powerful country is not to blame when it comes than with money. so you know, poverty causes these problems, but we need to monitor what happens in the u.s. and in suits that transparency occurs in the arab world from here because with the u.s. has failed in the last 30 years is

by doing what's right in terms of human rights and torture. an income of the u.s. sends people to be tortured in the arab world. i mean, who's fault is that? >> it's our fault. our political government is corrupt. how many people are in egyptian prisons in the last 25 years? >> very many. >> here we go. now we are saying goes. i have seen democracy -- the answer is there is no leadership. that is why. you know, if we have the leadership, that revolution would be failed. the question is how far can we go without a leader? >> were going to wrap it up. >> i just want to offer a few concluding remarks. first of all --

>> i have another comment by to make. >> allow me to your last remark. we may allow a question. but questions are close. >> i just want to say the president of the united states made remarks on may 19 about how inspired we've been as the government and how hopeful we are on the future for the people at the airport road. >> maybe we can help them remain. >> as the president of the united states sending a team cannot we are inspired by people of the arab world and we hope there will be citizen might transformation, positive society. on a personal note, i enjoyed my participation with the panel. i want to thank the panelists, the audience. i'm glad i came. i learned a lot and i want to say again, the united states

government and usaid stand ready to partner with you. you trance form societies. with special programs for ngos that had not yet worked with u.s. government and are ready to work with you if you're interested. we've even gone to begin a dialogue so we hope you'll visit with us. thank you. >> we as arab-americans really need to keep up the work for human rights and transparency allover world. we will ask for a better conditions i would do in the senate we want to be tenacious against israel as much as they can be. and then we say nothing about her producer torture. it needs to stop and we need to really stay with her conscience all the time. thank you very much.

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>> each month while the european parliament is in session, compression president man well there is so. it's meant for 70036 records and it is the the first item today on the agenda is questioned time with the president of the commission. the first question will be asked and comments will be shared by

mr. mackey read the on behalf of the european people's party. thank you. >> president, first of all, i can smile a bit, but we have survived the evacuation procedure of the fire land. we are all back. as the representative of the dep, i'd like to put up a question to the representative, looking at pictures be seen from the mediterranean in recent days and weeks, where people of being the situation in africa and have come to the shores of europe. some of them have it come to the shores. their pictures we've seen of people who have perished to the sea. we know that this is a common european challenge to come up with some sort of solution to this drama, this refugee crisis perceived. i'd like to ask the president to give us his appraisal as to how

the commission is dealing with this, especially from tax, whether we have sufficient resources to react on site, where it's needed, but also having to be the necessary wherewithal to act. the third question is, in the discussion with the countries of origin, with egypt, with the other countries, whether we're making headway as the european union and whether we're making progress. thank you. >> thank you very much. first of all, we obligate recent events but there is no loss of many lives. i agree with you do need to take more decisive action. there was an immediate response, for military assistance. this assistance will continue

through tax border agencies, committing response to strong migratory pressure. it's important that vendors are together the countries and continue to go and courtney jeffries. morning to be done. so my direct entity, yes we need more resources. the proposals to bring forth projects the to be urgently adopt it and we also need under state to show solidarity among themselves by offering technical and human necessary mean. as you know, the european doesn't have all those means. we need cooperation of member states. >> thank you very much. second question. >> translator: president can't thank you for those questions. you are saying we need more resources. i'd be interested to know whether there is a proven theory

that the countries have not been prepared to date to step up sufficiently, but that doesn't seem to be enough willingness from the member states to support from tax. if you believe that is the case that we need those resources now. >> i think there is a debate ongoing. in fact, this is of european count will. i mean, this month, the 23rd and 24th. and i think now, not only to member states should adopt the proposals that authority been put forth to reinforce contact, but also i think it is a good world from logistical means for ships. these are extensible. we cannot have from our budget now. and so that is why i think there is a political will to do that, but it should be done in a

manner worthy of her effort is initiated by the commission. they are working on the member states i hope the european count will of the 23rd and 24th will confirm. at the same time, we made. i myself was in tunisia. i spoke with prime minister and they are incorporating in fact some kind of logistical pragmatic authorities and are an agency thank you. not all of the dep is our president. i would like to ask to go to the next question. >> i have seen some of my colleagues are still in the fire exercise. >> okay. dear colleagues, yesterday the

commission announced a number of important steps in the commission. first of all, no rescue mechanisms ask for a number of changes. he said it is necessary that this mechanism provides countries with selectable credit lines. he said there has to be an ability for the representative to remark the most important he said that this can be done by discounted swaps with its own aaa rated. very important because it means you can swap countries and difficulties to aaa amounts of the rescue. and second night, he also announced -- said the emissions would start to examine the possibility of your pants, finally i should say, dear we are. so, my question to you,

mr. barroso, can you confirm the commission and secondly, sorry, president, as time is pressing, shall you propose these changes on the rest of mechanisms at the next council -- european council in two weeks. >> thank you. i will confirm that all the ideas put forward how to coerce come through. i will not repeat what he said. now, regarding the esm, we are now in the process of establishing that esm. you know, i think you will very soon agree on that. and so, i hope in the european council there will be political decision confirming decisions regarding european stability

mechanism. of course, you know what our position is. the european commission for many years, including one of my predecessors has put forward the reality that so far other states have not accepted. namely when the commission proposed semi-demutualization. it is rejected by most of the member states of your area. i think now there is some progress down unaccepting to come to consider several options in the commission will of course present several options. we always thought the idea was an attractive idea, provided the member states. they are not at your be honest. we are not yet any think now what we have to do is focus. >> thank you.

>> is to president, i don't think the crisis and we have to find additional instruments. with the additional instruments is in fact proposing a swap for a bad bounce from some countries in a smaller package of aaa rated europe. that is the way forward. europeans can be issued by the eff says or by new european agencies. the future doesn't matter. it's a mechanism that supports them. it is important for the first time the commission recognized this and the way forward. >> mr. barroso, and acts as a. the thing is easier for you to agree with what is intended, that in fact we are saying the same thing.

the commission him a quick survey, we were proposing collecting this kind of a more intervention in democracy and not decreed by the member states. so in fact, but i can confirm to you as we are along that line. we are trying to increase flexibility for intervention in the market. but honestly, i think now we should focus on the esm and consider of course options for the future if member states are ready to take the additional step. >> thank you, mr. president. >> mr. president, i was just in check. >> translator: president barroso, as you are aware, my group is largely made up with members of the year group.

as i've said many times, we would like to see the euro sale. our economies are far too much interlinked to want it to have been. we have mixed feelings about what is happening, receiving contradictory signals. the european council says one thing, the european central bank says another. the international monetary fund comes up with the third reason in its own position. and i guess the position that it's always a political positions which have the upper hand over and above the economic ones. as if markets could be dealt in this way in other words. it is therefore restructuring, what is the final position of the european commission? do you want to continue hand over fist providing endless amounts of -- and increasingly

large amount? obviously we know other countries aren't they are on the fence really. but his reasons starting to get the upper hand now and is your interpretation starting to change? >> you know, the problems we have an economic terms, unfortunate some member states out of the area are also in the programs of famous reports said the commission and the imf. now, regarding as you say indeed commit their specials on going between the member states and the council commissioned, europeans to have the best possible comprehensive response. as the now, they're not always expert agreement on the best way to have a response. and this is still work on going and it is fair to recognize

these issues are complex. the magnitude of the challenge is endless as that would require some work of convergence. that's why the commissioner has been extremely prudent to communicate on that banner because some of these issues. one thing is clear. by restriction is not an alternative. the painful fiscal cooperation efforts to solve the member states have to do is they want of course to correct in terms of deficit and debt. >> thank you. mr. president, copresident. >> thank you, mr. president. mr. barroso, when it is true to say we don't always understand the new position. i three points to me beard first of all i'm restructuring, we know that restructuring will happen over time.

restructuring for one. simple reason because we've got to allow the greek government to recover trust and also cause greek society restructuring because at this moment, nobody trusts anyone else and certainly not the government. until the government starts getting some kind of path ability of a future for its people, then the economy is unlikely to recover. so i think everybody, including european commission's should focus on this notion of an object in some confidence into greece. that's essential because with the asserting measures, these people done at the time to stop and think and that's why this rejection could turn out to be extremely dangerous. at one last point that they made.

tax evasion. couldn't europe lend a hand on this? you've got banks in australia, luxembourg, cyprus and switzerland, where greek citizens vote go into packing secrecy so the government can know where tax evasion is happening and what the money is going. you can't stop this. at the end of the day, european banks who are covering up tax evasion. >> i'm sorry to remind it. [inaudible] >> translator: mr. band-aids, there is a tax evasion increase. i don't think that is the structural problem greases facing on the other hand. now, with what we've been

talking about, addressing the question of banking secrecy since march 2009, all countries, including swiss has agreed to measure whereby information cannot be refused if it is requested by another bank. that's been covered. you know, the administrative administrative cooperation objective went in for some of them it. and so, it was published at the beginning of next year. the question has been addressed and can allow for full exchange of information between tax authorities. i think through the administrative corporation, mr. chair, with other countries, including greece and there found any alleged tax evasion or

fraud. >> you used all your time. i'm very sorry on that. [laughter] >> let me see. >> well, i make my intervention even prefer and save collegiality. the internet was dealt with at the g8 summit and the ongoing g8 foreign. i am just wondering why these hypotheses are dealing with the internet. i know this is a sensitive issue, then maybe you could fill us in. is this something that's going to be ongoing? will be on the agenda again? >> translator: i think president sarkozy's idea was an excellent idea of a global phenomenon. everybody wants an open internet

and its made major contributions for knowledge and freedom. it is sometimes abused, too. the exploitation of children, the freedom of explaining for criminal purposes. we had a very interesting discussion, participation of some big thinkers on the internet, the head of facebook, google and so forth. so the internet, while preserving its redone and protection for innovation it holds at the end of discussion it was confirmed that the internet would be on the agenda at the g8 again. >> thank you. yes? >> translator: president, i'm

going to talk about the brief on this issue. i put a question to you as to whether you have prepared to just inform us about the negotiations on the internet because it is an important issue that will challenge iowa we affect the future. >> was separately negotiation. it was a exchange of views if you like. the eight were there were major stakeholders in the internet industry were not negotiations at all. that's not the way he saw it anyways. so when you ask this hedge of major internet for the industry on the other hand, the numbers of the g8 have expressed our concerns, our interest in our visit the internet, but we

didn't really have any negotiations in terms of deliverables. in other words, delivering results. >> fair pantomime exchanges. every time i predicted the country would need a bailout, you come back and say no they don't. everything's fine. and now we face the fourth row, second creeped out, unless of course today you're going to say that isn't necessary either. but the question ought to ask you today is perhaps far more serious. nothing is happening greece or ireland or portugal to date. and it is the real debt crisis, the real sovereign debt crisis that we may face in the next few weeks. that is the integrity of the european central bank itself. he warned that you can't go on buying a vast quantities of your own that i'd. mr. barroso, do you accept that the finances of the european central bank and its integrity is now in a serious and

powerless state? [applause] >> no, i don't accept. but think the european central bank is a very credible institution that is managed great wisdom and diligent than i think the independence respected by all of the member states of the area and of course we know there are some difficulties. as i party sacrament they are not on the difficulties. unfortunately, your criticism is always pretty logical. the problems on average, the taxes lower than the death of britain's for the example. in fact, we have the different problem because it's the first time we have kind of this modesty and of course we have some are integrated institutional sentiments. that is where we are now trying to have a country of response

and that effort you are making with financial stability to the area. >> jos yesterday the respective think tank in europe came out with some figures on this. and they said that the ecb's exposure, a staggering 190 billion euros is exposure to the greek states and great plains. should the ecb see the value of this assets fell by just 4.25%, its entire capital base will be wiped out. do you accept the findings of both in europe? argue along with the association do with the situation in as serious as it is to actually have to lie in public? >> first of all, i don't lie. the commissioner has always been very consistent with

information we have been given about other situations. the situation is difficult. we have to look at it honestly becoming very clear, but we don't get the situation as a verse one. having said this, the european lives on absolute determination to do whatever it takes. and so i have no doubt the ability of the efforts and credibility of the bank. i have no doubt about the capacity of the bank to defend european interest in the commitment of the member states to provide all the guarantees the central bank needs to fill its balanced role of our central bank. in terms of exposure, there further central banks in europe and a much more difficult situation as a credible

respective body of european union. >> thank you a minister president. the e.u. is becoming wider with the european fiscal party with its inability to achieve consensus repeatedly, the concrete position of germany over the idea and the recognition -- could you explain how it's impossible to instigate comment posting important areas of international relations without consent? must be consent of the member state to the check their aspirations unilaterally? >> frankly, i don't understand what is behind your question. in fact, we are a union and didn't come in for an policy is, we have agreed that decisions

should be taken unanimously. so we unanimously don't agree. we don't have the difference to pose a decision on those member states. .. >> thank you. the first thing i mentioned was european party. could you explain to me why

should taxpayers fund political parties and maybe explain to me how you solve it for the e another question i know the commission meeting is very low. is the u.k. been correctly represented at the commission? >> there are two questions. first of all, recognized as an important entity by the treaty by our member states so there is a reason to support the european parties because they aren't european entities. second, she's not only vice president of the commission she's high representative. she has to represent the european union she has no trouble assignments and most of the commission's and almost all

the commission meetings but nevertheless i want to tell members of the commission are not there representing countries fear laminating by countries that they, are there. and they're not they're representing countries and it comes from that point we try to be independent and just the member states and britain is well represented and the prime minister. >> thank you very much. >> thank you mr. president. i apologize for my late arrival. i didn't wait until the end. we are living in difficult times

from 2008 was a very thorough banking crisis and economic crisis in 2009. banks took on debt and the public to gone debt like a budgetary crisis. this has led to cuts and austerity so that in certain countries the european union the situation has become most dramatic. there is a danger that in 2011 and 2012 the crisis would lead to a social crisis in europe. so if the commission is willing, is the commission in a position

to discuss how the underfunding of the social expenditure in the european union particularly in the countries that have been the hardest hit by the crisis are you willing to discuss how we can do something about the underfunding of the social protection systems? second, are you willing to discuss how we can get the money to invest in jobs particularly in the hardest hit countries. thank you. >> well, the commissioner has adopted its recommendations and raises the concern you just mentioned this is a huge importance to us in order to reduce deficits and debt is a

tricky issue but the same time every single hero which is currently being spent is a euro which doesn't exist for social security and so on and so forth, and that's why we have to have a serious asset to establish the consolidation to establish the trust and bring about reforms to the competitiveness but at the same time protecting the most formidable -- vulnerable. >> we adopted today the consent about the market how we can attract and have the social dimension and we have to see what foley ways are able to guarantee these objectives in the member states but we do share the object if. >> i'm sorry it was one minute

52 seconds your question. i'm very sorry. the time is over. i didn't give possibilities for a second question. i'm sorry. >> [inaudible] >> but we have rules, mr. president. i'm very sorry about that. the g8 summit mr. marco. one minute. >> thank you, president. i didn't want to intervene about the g8.

i wanted to ask a question of mr. lipper casseaux. the programs in the european union and encouraging young people but not only young people to get together to meet to ensure this becomes a genuine union etc. which brings together an awful lot of the unprofessional and it is genuine for the e.u.. >> well, we said the topic it is a topic of g8. please continue. >> we had a problem of communication. in terms of the commission, what is the fate of the problems

which are going to expire something we should have been looking at in the culture of wealth so how does the commission in tend the program going forward for 2014 and onwards and it's something of major interest so a lot of stakeholders. >> when it comes to commission and the aspects of europe, i personally am attached to this and i had an opportunity to meet the stakeholders in this particular realm. what we are going to do is come up with a position the end of this month for the financial perspectives including the culture, and of course obviously some proposals for the future, the rationalization of instruments that is the same time guaranteeing the ambition of the program that you have enumerated which assembles the

projects a system of a cultural event for europe. >> madam? >> i will stick to the topic. president, the commission got to the strong package of the reports of fighting the corruption that is costing the e.u. 120 billion year rose to the total budget that eight member states have ten on the transparency international index and the commission says implementation is unsatisfactory so wouldn't it be a good idea for corruption to be raised at the g8 soudet? to only reference i can find was about developing countries, no reference at all rich countries need to show the political will to tackle the problem of the backyard and show leadership on this wasn't as an opportunity to

talk about corruption and bribery at the g8 especially as one of the members, russia, is 154 out of 178 and many of our own a member states show poorly on the international index. >> thank you. >> we had this meeting with the african leaders but i can tell the anti-corruption issues are going to be on the agenda in november. having said that i think it is useful discussion because there is also someone corrupting so the g8 members were also scrutinized and many discussed the issue with africa and it wasn't by the way i give very good news to them because ibm not going to come with initiatives. it is a good or bad example depending on the transparency makes it easier for some regimes

to use in and on a transparent way revenue from their national sometimes it's complicity we have to say on the so-called development world so that is the angle in which the issue was taken. >> thank you. >> you mentioned the european central bank and said the central bank was independent. the central bank is independent in terms of this crisis. >> it's responsible for tens of millions of euros were off and the cpa has to undergo the restructuring as a result of

what greece is suffering. the ec is under all sorts of pressure because of the greek restructuring and what are you doing about helping the ecb? >> it's independent, not only recognized by the treaty and the treaty based independence, but i can tell you now some seven years of experience in this position dealing often with the ecb and being present in many locations they don't need our support to affirm their independence and i want to reassure you regarding the issue of the structuring as you know there are difference exceptions and the analysts considering of course all of the debates but the position was clearly stated.

we believe it is not an alternative to the efforts the member states have to do in terms of the fiscal consideration that has been our position, our consistent position and we will keep that position. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. president of the commission, i would like to know whether the question of regulating markets is postponed, yet again particularly a transactions tax on putting an end to tax havens and reining in derivatives, getting a rating agencies under control because they've completely lost their

credibility and were never transpired in the first place, and the issues of the european particular and greece measures are being imposed which impose austerity on working people. this means increased exploitation, and in the short to medium term it means more poverty, loss of more jobs, more inequality, don't you think it is contradictory to all the principles that have spilled out in the treaty. >> on the markets the g8 is for

governments on these issues. it is given priority to these issues and always has and indeed these issues were it was myself at the g8 who set the ball low on the discussion, on a financial transaction tax. i did some conjunction with a v-8 and my position is clear and i am in favor of a financial and capital transaction tax and the european commission put forth some ideas of this in the near future. now on the second issue the problems we're facing in the treaty without the objectives we share in the social market economy. >> the g8 summit to be to the commitment to the neighborhood a

policy in the mediterranean. you yourself on behalf of the european union is committed 1,000,000,000.24 million saying it's for neighborhoods which might have been considered or understood as. we know some of the versions of the document of the commission in an initial phase within 1.24 -- 150 was for the east and the rest was for the south which contradicts the principle symmetry been paid to those neighborhoods. how would you explain what did you come at factually to the mediterranean neighborhood policy within the context which has been given by you? thank you. >> let me tell what very frankly - understand the concerns you

have, but frankly i think the most important issue is not to put in competition what is important is to help -- us to help them in an effective way and the approach put forth now on the policy is clear we are not allocating resources on the condition of the according to each partner's progress toward reform. those who do more, those who show was a deserve more will receive more. this is for country eight or country be. the country has to show it deserves support. and in that case we will of course fossil our commitment to

the eastern european partnership and also our neighbors in the mediterranean. >> thank you very much, president. on the previous question and the answer you gave we spoke about the aid that is being had granted most notably to the air of the emerging republican from g8 the imf as well, and money coming from the member states and talk about conditionality. my question really focuses on this. the adis commission on a certain number of freedom of association, freedom of the media, independence of the judiciary, all these criteria but i would like to know who will be appraising in of these

arab democracies who will be making sure the criteria will be respected, will ever policy be implicated in this conditionality that is being put in place, so will it be a question of discretionary power from the council? >> i hope he would agree commission is running the saxes and i am proud that it's the commission with the high representative who managed to put forward the blueprint of that response for partnership of democracy and the northern african area and mediterranean region in the partnership arrangement and working with the council, that's recognition that it is the commission that is leading this and of course the commission is answerable to parliament so anything the parliament is interested in

doing to be closely implicated in what is going on i would welcome. we can see what is going on in the arab countries. there are strategic aspects that are developing not just for the local region but the rest of the world as well so in terms of mobilizing the institutions but also civil society to help the transition to the democracy of the neighbors is extremely important and i welcome the parliament. >> thank you. i was reading the economic data for 2009 according to which there are $58 billion of international gdp. at the same time, in terms of the monetary policy we are

dealing with, i think that we are talking about more dollars as well but we are not issuing currencies. you're going off lots of things but two things have come about and that is we are talking about the expense in the second round, and also we are not going to be worked on the economic situation because we are facing recessions right here now. then you see this as news facing up to the major changes in this case. >> it is strictly the g8 meeting but maybe some points are similar. mr. president barrasso.

>> i can respond to the distinguished member of the parliament saying the position of the commission has been over the years one of the open and sympathetic because my predecessors, the first to put forth their reality that there was no agreement between the member states. it was the creation of the european stability mechanism that would become the number one international financial institution in the world, most important in terms of financial strength and that's where we should concentrate efforts. thye at the same time we are open to discuss with member states and parliament of course several options regarding the possibility of the willingness of the member states to consider that possibility.

there is a very important one. >> thank you for answering the question that a rather problematic collection which of a g8. >> thank you. the recent summit wanted to be known it was providing $40 billion to egypt for over from the dictatorships and increasing democracy. however the g8 statement said it would support countries of the region that move towards not just democracy but also a market economy. it wants the country's to reap the benefits of globalization and engage in that investment integration which makes making it easier to make money in the countries and then take the money out again. i would not object to implement and maintain the space institutions and procedures the would be quite right however it isn't semester recipients should

be told which economic policies they should choose and which they should discard. surely they have no right to instruct the democracies as to which space choices they should make. >> thank you very much. you must shorten your questions because in the interpretation there are some problems. >> i agree that perspective adopted by the g8. i think it is in our common interest to have not only open societies that open economies. these countries are our neighbors, and i think the best way to help them is to treat. we will never be able to put the amount of money they need and in the countries as you probably know the trade among themselves is almost insignificant. at the same time they don't

throw them on themselves, so why keep it is important that we say we are here to support you but we should open the economy and we see the progress of the country is very clearly linked to the capacity to integrate it is because they were able to participate in the global economy and reap some benefits for people. >> thank you. president barrasso the final declaration from the g8 summit as far as the middle east is concerns states the negotiations are the only way towards a global and lasting solution to the conflict. israel and the palestinian authorities must respect the agreement and not take the measures which could hamper

progress and reform. they're an important player in the g8 and the support that declaration. how did you inform the palestinian party planning to take the unilateral step in september and the assembly? >> with regard to the middle east peace process i don't remember the ratings an issue where it was not mentioned and we stated over call for resuming the peace process and asked the parties to engage in the talks to bring to an effective conclusion the middle east peace process. we all commended the the u.s. vision on reaching the agreement as groundbreaking and forward looking. however there were different reactions to the details of the vision and that ought to be very honest with you there are different approaches among the

partners to the plo corporations and the issue of the 1967 borders. there were also some concerns around the table about the risks in the potential palestinian to seek recognition that the next united nations general assembly and whether i can tell you that your up would have a common position on that matter and that is what we are discussing with our member states. half >> thank you, mr. president. the g8 countries decided to grant $40 billion to egypt as has already been stated. however the european union must call for more transparency, and it'd fact geneat