been very open about the fact that was the working title for my buck and i do see jim storey during that period of time as the story of why justice slept. many people had experienced this with the legal system sometimes it does not work at all. after jim's experience to collect from those who were incarcerated wrongly some may be 20 years or so and it is easy to find those stories unfortunately. >> host: and bail-out policemen to lie on the stand and that is the reason it was thrown out.

then the ida gay demonstration with one of the chiles after the defense had closed and had no opportunity to rebut that so that is another trial says third trial was a hung jury. so finally sonny seiler got a change of venue after that and the news media went over and said we don't know who jim williams is and we don't care we don't know anything about him and it was not of big deal. sonny seiler said it is a new ball game those people down know him or care about him.

all they need is to hear the evidence. that is what happened in edessa. they actually went back to deliberate and i have forgotten how long it took them that they said that they knew he wasn't guilty and voted right away but they were afraid to come out that soon because they were afraid people would say they did not deliberate long enough so they stayed 45 minutes. >> host: how long after the trial did he live? >> guest: six months. >> guest: he died of a major heart attack. >> host: how long after did the book, out? >> four years.

john berendt he knew he was going home. when he talked to jim williams. we knew five days later that he would come home. and john berendt and i have jim snowdon's -- said he wanted to write a story and to draw up the contract and i said wait until you get home on your own home territory and settle down to do that and he was pushed

into it and it was four days before he came home. >> host: what are your future plans? >> always used in conjunction with my plan, the word is the vault. just like getting the ph.d. are being on the faculty of the university i always wanted to do that. that is what i planned but on the other hand, you cannot know what will happen. jim's death have been so suddenly so i was the only member of our family who at that point* could come down to settle the estate. my children were in college and my mother was older.

i think you have to be receptive to change and have to see how it evolves. i made the decision to open the house as a museum and it took some planning but i did it quickly and in fact, said i will open it with a tour of homes mime daughter said you cannot do that. very soon it was so been so i think you can plan and were to achieve goals but i do think there are always some things that come along that you must wait and see and when you encounter them you just see how witty balls and what do i do next?

certainly i think, i own us second house here on the border and i enjoy that and my grandchildren and joy that but i am thinking i probably will buy up plays in new york because most of my family now is there. my grandchildren, my son-in-law and one of my daughter's. i like new york so i would like to spend more time there dr. -- . >> host: dr. dorothy kingery thank you for your time. >> guest: i appreciate to tell his story accurately because it is a fascinating story. thank you for coming. >> i have a list of books

but the first book i am working on is the book about whole issue of central asia over the next 25 years and i have read chapters when i travel to different parts like indonesia but i want to read the whole book och and i started in february. another book is given to me buy a fellow from the american academy of mechanical engineers i said what are the problems with water over the next 20 or 30 years? this book and said read it i could never write a perfect report but it is a good book to read about the question of water and in congress we do need to think about this in the future.

and over the next 100 years the book is fascinating looking at who the major allies would be those who have trouble with and when he came out with the next book the figuring that is within my lifetime i better get that red to see what will happen from the perspective of people who look at trends one of the fascinating things and then turkey and poland and i never thought about that. and then he said we will have a war in the next 100 years with mexico. there was a lot of things that were fascinating. so i figure i will read the second book that is a little

more down-to-earth. as congressmen, everybody who writes a book cents one to the office to say you should read the book. we get all kinds of books many of which is that i send off to the office but i also get people who recommend books to me to say you should read the book and $0.1 to me by my secretary nancy james and it was about china and this is the of ymca director going to china and chronicled of the most definitive chronicling of china's contribution to science in the world and said you ought to read this if you want to understand where the boom is coming from. not like yesterday they

discovered scions. they have been there 6,000 years they put it all together. she said you ought to read it. i started this book i will have to started again because i have forgotten some of the first part but these books will keep me occupied this summer. >> we start as paperback company back in the beginning and that was in the heyday of the paperback arad and we have authors like how robins

and the great brands of the time and it was an interesting time provokes because the industry was transitioning from a to world system of hardcover and paperback publishing. with that era we had to merge a lot of the books being published in hardcover we're being published by paperback publishers. and then they realize they had to get into the paperback business. it was an interesting transition with us at to simon & schuster like bob woodward or other superstar authors mary higgins clark

who was succeeding both hardcover and paperback and jackie collins and to inherit a legacy to apply a massmarket techniques but shortly after i started i became in charge when they were under one management and that is when what is called career development start and author on paperback been billed the audience then when they were a lot -- large enough then we would published in hardcover and we were building an audience for the author at the same time the author was perfecting their

writing style and talent. it was a happy time and a good time and a thrilling time for us. >> host: you mention the transition going into paperback now people start to do electronic books. >> it is interesting to me fortunately or unfortunately sitting on the sidelines while the transition plays out but it is my choice but what i observe is great similarities between how the paperback evolves in the '60s and '70s and changed the business. and i think electronic publishing will do the same in a relatively few years ahead of us.

>> host: some people are saying the electronic books are becoming electronic is bad for the book publishing industry. >> guest: i cannot imagine how it could be. and the electronic book is the perfect product because it eliminates for the publisher, most of the negatives of physical publishing. there is no returns on unsold books. it is not a format to brand the book first imprinted second putt salant first then print it. it solves the problem of shelf life where new books have a short period of time before they are replaced the for the next group of books in the electronic world

there is no shelf life for the book will exist forever as long as there is a demand and in the physical world, printing and binding and shipping and warehousing. you don't have that with the electronic space and then there are two other things that is phenomenal which is under appreciated and number one is the fact zandi electronic book, there is no pass along. you cannot buy a the book give it your relatives so in theory mathematically if you can keep the same number of people reading, may be

selling 100,000 copies in physical form, the same number of people read it, you should sell more because they cannot borrow with they have to buy it. for your own consumption. number two, the electronic book should be a global phenomenon with traditional publishing is territorial europe and england and france which are barriers. there is no geographic barriers for the distribution of electronic books and that is the second saying is that there is instant gratification if you want to buy the book on the amazon can go for the i ted you can download in 60 seconds and there is no getting up off the chair to find the book and pay for it to bring it home and all of

that is gone. i don't see a downside from a business perspective as well as the present day publishers can manage the transition to control the content. >> with the book publishing industry did they wait too long to get on the bandwagon with google and other selling the books now are they playing catch up? >> no. it is important to remember the content is still owned by the publisher of beer copyright and the amazon can go or the ipad or any of these devices are simply distribution vehicles. they don't own the content they are virtually little bookstores you can carry

around in your briefcase. they have not taken possession of content. not to say they won't try all along devolve that way but in a present-day paradigm, as long as there are physical books, don't forget to physical books are the dominant format, the publisher should be in control of the content. >> host: something else i wanted to ask, publishers are creating conservative imprint separately from the major lines. why is that? >> the simple answer is they finally figured out by a book of better answer is from my own experience is simon & schuster it would surprise to know the most publishers are liberal and

people tend to publish what they like and what i found is we had a sense there was a huge conservative audience wanting to buy books but nobody wanted to publish them so we found one conservative publisher and she started threshold and some of the biggest and best that the companies have enjoyed have come through that category. >> host: also, what were some of your authors while at simon & schuster? >> guest: many of them were irked that i became friends with most notably an author like flynn who is the number one best-selling

author and these are people when i was active with publishing i participated to discover them and enjoyed the fruits of their success though personally they are my favorites. one of my all-time favorites is lee iacocca to i did a book with who set records and that is the one i am most closely associated with. we became good friends over the years and then four years ago then in the mid '80s. always find of mario and also by the godfather as a great character.

>> host: to bring this back around weird use the book publishing going in the next 10 or 15 years? >> it will go to an electronic driven business. by that, not too far down the road the electronic book will be the reader's edition and it is clear two me now that people will enjoy it and have gotten over the concerns of physical books seto in terms of what i said earlier from convenience and delivery systems and the pricing and people have shown us the electronic books are important. a smart publisher have to look down the road to say if

my main audience is electronic then maybe i should release the electronic edition as the primary addition and follow it up with what i would call the furniture edition because of physical books are still adored and cherished by readers and saved. millions of miles of bookshelves in america have to be filled with something. so there are plenty of opportunities to sell physical books but that will love the the dominant form and fiber 10 years. i think today's publisher has a challenge to figure out in the old world of paper and ink to transition to the new world of

publishing knowing that both will be important i'm not intimate with it anymore but i don't see publishers looking at electronic books in the individual formats to be published separately. i see most publishers happily let taint the electronic book tagging along. i think that is a mistake and will be recognized and corrected but it is difficult because you have people who try to preserve one world and thrive in a new role. that is not the easiest challenge in the world and i also think and this is important, relatively quickly publishing will evolves and there are books only published electronically and then, if they succeed might then be

published with a physical edition of are maybe not. a lot more books will be published as a result but different books. >> host: r e-books as lucrative? >> they should be progress depends on how much over hot -- overhead they charge but in the electronic format of manufacturing cost, there is no selling or distribution cost so basically the creative cost to create the content and marketing costs and the author's participation. i cannot imagine it would not be hugely more profitable. it should be.

>> good afternoon i am the executive director of the heritage museum here in allentown pennsylvania. welcome to the program i'm delighted to have all of you here one of the most steamed historians in the country today, jeff will be speaking about his new book, it a glorious army.

and we are delighted to say this is a main selection of the history book club and the military book club. this is one of the most sought after civil war books in the country right now today. he is the author of nine books. >> let me say of few words. and 1977 when i joined the comex apartment to say it was not a congenial place of of king dems and came as you did not feel very welcome very different from that and

then to take me under his wing to make life much easier for me and my to my search for me. but then to below the assistant professor and was already god or very close to that. [laughter] he had done the break through work dealing with asymmetric formation and for those of you who worked on that it can get very messy very quickly. but i think we were in all of them and that is when the we have became friends to last a person's. but then deciding it was too easy and moved on to be a

dean at harvard than stanford and then and high-tech and finance and learned a lot about the world we met off and on in china ended me wrasse to analyze the problems of china and what they would be and we had a great time and we say with a lot of modesty the work was preliminary and what we think should have been it is a great treasure to work with mike in a different capacity and.

>> good afternoon. my name is joe, executive director of the heritage ms. -- museum in allentown pennsylvania and welcome to the program. i am delighted to have you here we have one of the most esteemed civil war authors and historians in the country today, jeff will be speaking about his new book, at a glorious army this book we are delighted to say is a main selection of the history book club and military book club. it is one of the most sought after civil war books in the country right now today. he is the author of nine books writing about the civil war for or for 40 years and took a while to get that out of him and he is well known from pennsylvania to california. his most notable achievements, is a