reestablished 1400 years come a long period, we saw a wave after wave of islamic conquests in jihad against the west. israel did not exist during this period, yet we saw >> , sicily, greece, the balkans, romania, conquered by islamists. we saw them to bite into central france. we saw them get to the gates of vienna twice. it said nothing to do with israel and nothing to do with jews. israel is a canary in the coal mined in this fight the first line defense for the civilization. >> host: let's talk about the defense of western civilization because, you and your book this week and i want to in the interview this way. a lot of people are going to read this and say what can i do, what can i do as a citizen? what can my government do? give us some suggestions as to what somebody who picks this book up and says oh my god, what

is my role in this? >> guest: fred, you and i were talking before the show. we talk about these issues a lot. that's always the question we get. i travel the country giving speeches. that's when asked. please come on imports to get informed. you don't have to be in islam expert -- by the book -- but you don't have to be an expert or political junkie but put down your ipod, turn off american vital, even turn off the game 15, 20 minutes a day. get informed of what is going on in the world. you what to yourself when your kids and grandkids -- grandkids. monumental changes are happening now in the muslim world you need to know about because as i described in the book is in your backyard. >> host: if you just read conventional media, you're going to get that impression that this is the dividend from generations of american treeless. how do you get around that? you want to read the terrorist next door but where are the places people can do to educate themselves? ..

>> why aren't americans put those questions to members of congress to have complete jurisdiction over the tax code to say why are we in directly funding terrorism if we give money to care which raises money for hamas? >> this is the million-dollar question not only this administration but the bush administration. why are these groups yibin legal? care is one of the most largest groups in america

up. the largest terrorism financing trial in american history the holy land foundation trial 2007. >> you can find that on line by the way. >> by both of these groups were named as co-conspirators in the largest trial in american history but they have an open door to the white house? it is devising on sensitivity training. this is the fox inside the 10 house. >> did you write about a guy who was at fort hood two weeks after advising caution? is the not a member? finreg he is. the northside be of monday's muslim brotherhood front and one month after the fort hood shootings lectured on the troops at fort hood. >> if they were at the pentagon who is watching the

store? but again, it seems to me that americans in need to wake up and did this pushed back from the local enforcement and now is there the bedrock for us of those who are inside the infrastructure and government and media and education? >> the infiltration is a lack of intellectual curiosity. a simple ghost search could give you information if you google love muslim brotherhood you will find everything you need to know. >> get apparently our government officials and federal law-enforcement officials are not doing the background researcher

exercising due diligence and the sad fact is they don't think the muslim brotherhood is the threat. total vision? al qaeda by lead jihad but not but muslim brotherhood. >> if it is as powerful it should be illegal in itself but if they are under ratings addition which is the unlawful act like camry or after then using the same statutes to go after organized crime? clearly this is the organization presenting a greater threat than the mafia but yet even though those racketeering statutes are emplace nobody talks about that. why not? is that legitimate? >> got-- absolutely. the holy land foundation trial we're on the right track but nobody is moving.

>> but our friend broke of major story one month ago. eric holder throughout some cases against muslim brotherhood operatives and 70 will not pursue. why? >> i want to close this out because it seems what may be competing with our ability to fully understand the threat is there are not enough guys like your dad who fought for the country or receive 12 when they came back gore had to deal with adverse politics. are we now missing a generation who were sold enshrined of the freedom we don't appreciate what they fought for? >> absolutely. 35 years old but i was raised with strong family unit and strong influence and raised in the right way.

nothing was handed and today there is a sense of entitlement in this country with video games, text messaging, so many distractions that people are not as grounded. we talk vice -- face-to-face sometimes someone is across the classroom your text messaging there is a 10 chin deficit. who has time to sit down and read the q'uaran? >> one word of encouragement i talked to her people and i seen at the younger generation with definite glimmers of hope. that is one word of encouragement because there is hope was the and third-generation. >> one other group it seems that two if anyone has a vested interest to keep sharia law from coexisting with our present statutes

would you agree? >> absolutely. wherein is the feminist? i have a wife and two daughters. >> you can start by reading the terrorist next door. thank you for what you are doing. keep up the fight. god knows that we need you.

[applause] system that was a wonderful introduction i wish you could keep going and going. thank you for hosting this seedbed for all the great work that you do i want to thank everybody very much for coming out. let me talk a bit about myself who then i will read

day few pages the introduction to the book going on seven or eight hours after that. [laughter] and then we will take some questions. as you have heard time the longest serving independent an american congressional history. you may six knoll why is that? the answer is pretty simple that i believe that most -- both political parties are led by money interest and i think millions and millions of working families don't have the kind of voice they should have against all lovell of government and i have chosen to be the independent. i now caucus with the democrats who have always done that. i began my political career by running for the united

states senate on the third-party ticket. and i receive 2% of the vote [laughter] that was back in 1971. not deterred ran for governor of the state the same third-party and i went from 2% at 1%. [laughter] not they're trajectory we were hoping. i may not bride but persistent i came back when to the senate again 1974 against mine now colleague patrick leahy and he won and i lost but i got 4 percent and i saw those votes going up than a few years later iran for governor again we have elections every two years and i got 6%. at that point* i took the hint that maybe getting

elected to political office is not what my life would be about i went to do other things to work on an historical film strips and having a good time. in 1981 politicians say people say you should run for office but it was true. saying we look at the election results and you do well in burlington you may actually wind. so i did. we put together a wonderful coalition of unions and the senior citizens and women advocates and police officers who came on board and on election night, we won by 14 votes with a five term incumbent which will probably go down in vermont history as a major political

upset of vermont history. and then we went to the recount ended up winning by 10 votes. i took office in 1981 was two supporters on the city council and the others who were not supportive of the fact and fired my secretary on the first day i took office and i had to run this city on the first year with the previous mirror administration. like obama running with the bush and administration. [laughter] it was a little difficult but one knit year later we had rallied the people and a number of seats with the city council i had veto power and we began to do exciting things. after 10 years and then they combine the parties. that was 1988 and iran for

the united states congress and my friend said you should not run. you will pull votes away and on election night the republic 10134% i got 31% the democrats got 19%. two years later iran for the same seat and i won by a 16 seats. then 16 years with in 2006 and of very courageous person chose not to run for reelection running against one of the wealthiest guys in the state and then in the stated 2.5 million spent 7 million we had to raise 5 million but won by a strong vote so that is my political history.

if we talk about the book to 98 and i will read to the introduction. friday december 10 i woke up at my usual time at my usual breakfast of all be old and coffee then had a typical daily discussion with my staff. 1038 walked onto the floor of the senate to begin of a speech prepared turns out to be a long speech a modern version of the filibuster going on a and a half hours and who 7:00 p.m.. there were many reasons. first a promise to do everything i could to oppose a very bad tax agreement between president obama and the republican leadership at a time when the country has 13.$8 trillion national debt of the most unequal distribution of wealth of

any major country it seemed to be totally absurd to provide hundreds of billions of tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires. by confirming -- confirming under a democratic president, house and senate the basic tenets of the trickle-down theory it was laying the groundwork for more bad decisions in the future. unfortunately i was right that takes us right to the budget of today. second come aboard tax breaks for the rich is one symptom of one that is protests leave these grotesquely failing. the reality is the middle-class is collapsing in poverty is increasing in the gap between the very wealthiest and everyone else

gets wider. how does this happen why does it happen? what can we do about it? these are issues that have to be talked about that is not often heard. over the 20 years i served i had examined the issues by the corporate media and from zero wide for 80 now with an excellent opportunity to bring them together to make the connection. what does that mean morally and economically that in 2007 cap the top 1% of all income in the country more at the bottom of 50% or the top 1% they own more wealth and the bottom 90 percent? given the political power with the concentration of wealth in terms of the lobbying capabilities and contributions in media

ownership is united states on its way to become a different form of society with almost all power resting in the hands of a tiny few? what does that say about our political economy despite our huge increases of productivity and technology, that we have seen in recent decades a to encourage family has left's days less disposable income than the one income family did 30 years ago. why isn't that americans today work the longest hours of many people in the industrialized world? is a correlation between united states having the highest rate of trials of poverty while we also have more people in jail? doesn't it make more sense to invest in our kids than jail construction? how does it reflect on our political and legal system

and those crux on wall street was a horrendous recession now earn more money them before they were bailed out? how come none of them are in jail? and what does the financial reform bill mean when three out of the top floor to big to fail banks that in this country are larger than the wall street collapse? with assets over half of gdp of this country? what does it mean to the economic future of our country over the last 10 years we have lost 42,000 factories in millions of good paying manufacturing jobs and it is harder to buy products manufactured. how does it have been those outsourcing production when hard times hit they keep running for taxpayers for a

bailout. on and on and off. [laughter] that is my secret a anatoly my answer is it is our but the after effects two days later and i walk onto the

floor i had no idea how long i would stay there i sometimes gave speeches as long as an hour but that was it i really didn't know how long it would be there i knew i would not read from the phone book or sing songs i wanted to speak for as long as i had something relevant to say. while i did not have a prepared script i worked off of previous speeches i have given or articles or occasionally exurbs i would read the few pages to go from there. and then to engage in a colloquy i am grateful to merry land to for their support.

we also warned that it contains some repetition. what do one? 810 1/2 hours. [laughter] this is not an accident in giving the speech i was more than a where most people would not be listening to it in its entirety and suspected most people would tune in half an hour or an hour and move on with their life. i made it a point* to keep returning to my basic theme. was i surprised the attention this speech received? are you kidding? the phones both in my washington vermont offices never stopped ringing in vermont and they did nothing all day but respond to calls. thousands of calls and e-mails. the senate television website crashed because a huge number of people who wanted to watch live on-line and c-span2 have an exceptional day.

according to the near times it was the most popular event on twitter bad day. [laughter] [applause] someday i will learn much wetter is all about. [laughter] front-page stories and the number of people who signed up as friends on my facebook page doubled the previous total in one day and my business website when sky-high some journalists claimed obama had the unscheduled impromptu press conference with former president clinton in defense of the tax deal to diaper media attention away from what i was doing on the senate floor. turn up clinton was at the white house and a suddenly had a press conference. despite my best efforts we lost the vote that obama had worked out a very bad agreement was signed into law. was my speech worth the

effort? i think so. moving in a new direction to change our national priorities. the to focus on a life-and-death issues that working families care about. the for a counter attack taking place on working families and for a practical plan on how we can reverse the politics to favor the rich over the middle class and the disadvantaged. if my speech to help to educate people it was well worth it. thank you. i will take any questions or thoughts that anybody has.

>> and what should congress be doing? doesn't have to have the amendment to the constitution or are there better ways? >> perhaps everybody doesn't know the eyes citizens united decision. for many years we had a disastrous campaign finance system which clearly favors those who have a lot of money and corporate interest against those who do not.

one year-ago the supreme court passed a disastrous and a absurd decision called citizens united and and the wisdom we found five people and the same room, the only five people in america who actually believe they corporation is a person. five people in america and all happened to be on the supreme court at the same time. [laughter] what that decision does is it says to large corporations that you as a person has a first amendment freedom of speech rights and therefore you're able to express your freedom of speech by birding's days putting 302nd ads on television how terrible bernie sanders or russ feingold is and by the way you can do that and secrecy and not have to reveal who you are.

you can come up with a phony name or organization. this is a disastrous decision that makes bad campaign finance situation much worse. we saw in the last election you will see more. a essentially will happen is a handful of billionaires and wealthy corporate people will sit around the room to say he put 10 million into vermont, new hampshire, california, this is a small sum of money to win a senate or house seats. it is a horrendous decision. what we have tried to do on the floor of the house and senate is at least pass legislation to minimize the impact of citizens united. so it was brought forth that got no support that says if i put the ad on television, i have to have my name on tv to take responsibility.

fine. if you are the ceo of the corporation who was paying for the ad, get your face up there to say you take responsibility and we thought that would discourage a lot of corporations from doing that. we want to make sure if the chinese company in the united states should not be allowed the third if we utilize that then the opponent somebody with that process, i could get the cheapest possible rate but we lost those votes. they could not get any republicans it is a very good supreme court decision but your question is should we go forward with the constitutional amendment?

in general i am not a big fan of constitutional amendments but everybody think we need a that to sell but that is weakening with the constitution is about which is a good document but on this issue we could make that exception. i do believe that it is one of the options that we have and that should say that a corporation, everybody's shocked and surprised. but we had a town meeting and had won a couple of months ago you know, ben and jerry. they were there and then was funny and said i am band. i am a person. this is jerry. he is a person. ben & jerry's is not 8%. [laughter] -- of person. that is it in the nutshell the idiot we give them

corp's first amendment rights is absurd. >> just wondering we missed out on keogh so what would you recommend? >> in my view it is a huge issue. it saddens me today in the congress you have the majority of people in the house almost all republicans who are willing to ignore virtually the entire scientific committee is says global warming is real and today causing very serious problems and those will only

get worse than the future and you have the cia tell us in terms of national security and global warming and to fight the limited resources the food shortages, the cia all of these organizations over the world but yet to the anti-science and feeling is such as this political moment will not move forward but to answer your question question, we could talk about education our health care and the main point* i want to make to you is the solution will not come inside the beltway. it will come from cities and towns all over the country to stand up and organize to get out on the streets to say enough is enough.

i can tell you without any fear of contradiction what goes on and congress is far far removed from the reality of the life of ordinary people. that is true whether it is economic or health care. there is an invisible wall and a trade day shingle traded by lobbyists to shape the whole discussion we have a corporate media outlets except issues that are the most important. global warming is a huge issue and right now i don't think anyone who thinks we would make serious advances to address that but what we may be able to do, may become i get some investment with energy efficiency and the state of vermont has

done good in that area to get some investment in sustainable energy like bios thermo and other investments with public transportation but just recently what was meant to keep republicans from shutting down the government they had to give up billions of high-speed rail. instead of investing in public transportation to come back on that the debate goes lowered on the budget we will see more of the cutbacks. but two answer the question, we can turn this around. there it are very few people in america and not located inside the capitol who believe that it makes any sense at all to give $1 trillion of tax breaks to the wealthiest people in the country and to cut the

corporate tax rate when already they pay nothing in taxes than to give huge tax breaks to those who don't need it cut back on the infrastructure and the needs of the children to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars and medicare and very few people believe that makes any sense at all. take on the book of days big money interests with the large campaign contributions and organizing and educate. if we do that. >> thank you senator. you are up for reelection in 2012 have they started to spend money against you yet? >> we think there is one serious candidate and there maybe others but as of this

point* they have not. >> [inaudible] what about ratio wealth and a quality? >> a question what we intend to do in the area that i have jurisdiction there are frightening statistics out there having to do with poverty in america is a death sentence. if you look a racial disparity as a rich white guy who has access to good quality health care, a disease prevention doesn't

live under it a large amount of stress, contrast to the low income black person you will see a very significant discrepancy and disparity in longevity. there will be some studies on that but if you are black or white or hispanic you will leave it -- live a shorter life span and the quality of your life will not be as good as others. that is the important issue to pound away. >> no one once the debt ceiling raised they will suffer the most and we have to stand up to the crazy teapartiers.

we cannot let them cut unnecessary spending. >> host: a very good question and i agree. i will back it up. be honest. i do a radio show every friday and talking to a couple of million people the issue they raise is why are the republicans so tough? and democrats compromise all the time? and looking at what happened in the last year, in terms of what this book is about, what the republicans

said, okay. there are several million people whose unemployment compensation will expire. but we don't want to extend unemployment. unless you give us, by the way, historical a when unemployment was above a certain level, generally there was bipartisan support. we will not do it. obama and the democrats say that is terrible. we will do it but this is what we need for a new. we have to expand the tax breaks to the wealthy istanbul where the tax rates on the estate tax which go to the very, very wealthiest people to bring those things down and we are delighted we will divert $120,000 from

the social security fund by doing attacks holiday on the payroll tax. that is what they demanded and got everything they wanted. that is why i was on the floor 810 1/2 hours that was up for compromise. republicans got 90% but the threat was we will not extend but a few weeks ago if you don't give us the cuts we want we will shut down the government in a federal employees will not have the pay check and government services will not be available. we will shut down the government might voted against that they protected headstart and planned parenthood but the programs

i worked very, very hard with community health centers to provide health care to 20 million people we have to increase that investment so when five years we will have 40 million people get primary health care, dental care, mental health counseling, prescription drugs and a cutback 600 million and millions will not have access and the future. so the black mail was we will shut the government down. but now to your point* we are in part iii of the movie and this time unless you make devastating cuts in the future for the first time in this great country we will not pay our debts but default on our debt and cause the international

financial crisis the outcome of which nobody knows will it lead to a world depression? will lead to higher interest rates? most definitely. for the first time in the history of this country, people who buy bonds will have second thoughts. republicans have said we're prepared to do that. we are prepared unless you give us what we want. like a child having a temper tantrum i will go nuts unless you give me the candy with company in a house or burn it down unless you give me what i want. but what is an interesting point* is probably the first group that are hit hardest by not raising the debt ceiling will be wall street. i happen to think over friends of wall street alone will probably not allow employees to do that. [laughter] so we have to hang tough.

the point* is it never ends. there bold, they are tough and very irresponsible. my suggestion is to look them in the guide to say for the first time in this country, if you want to foot the world into a financial crisis, you go ahead and do it and voters will hold you accountable but we will not keep seven during issue after issue. [applause] any other questions and? >> [inaudible] would the war on terror be more dangerous? >> i think as i was coming

back to washington and at the vermont and airport people said this is a great thing. whined doesn't know how actively he was involved in the terrorism movements because he was isolated and we will learn more about that in the next few weeks but this is the guy who only on 9/11 but other activities killed thousands and thousands of innocent men and women and children and the world is better off without them. so what does this mean about the war in afghanistan? #1, if anyone thinks it was

osama bin monegan simultaneously running that international war on terror is some now with his demise everything will be fine that is naive. we have terrorist cells all over the world and people who want to do very, very bad things. psychologically taking him out does have a positive impact but more importantly the growth of democratic movements in the middle east river very significant but asking about afghanistan might you did not change the day before he was killed or after. we have been there 10 years. i was in afghanistan a couple of months ago. it is an enormously complicated and difficult situation. you have a country that is terribly poor and underdeveloped. do know how much education the average police officer

today has? the zero. functionally illiterate. i went to of place with the hope they will leave the the third grade education the taliban was strong their men the marine corps write beside the and those people selling vegetables i did not see one woman. i did not see one at one been on the street midafternoon. they were behind closed

doors. and the goal here in afghanistan is to make sure that taliban never seems power. that would be bad for a wide variety of reasons. but after 10 young -- long years and now believe the time is to bring our troops home as quickly as we can. [applause] >> thank you for coming tonight to speak to the people. mention named dominated. [inaudible] >> caller: the israeli lobby is one of the many

lobbies in washington my hope is the president will work with the arab countries who all political persuasions to develop what i suspect will be a two-state solution and i think we have to be aggressive. it breaks my heart per car has been to the middle east to see decent people wamble sides of. i hope the united states will play an active role it is very difficult we have people on both sides to tear it apart but hopefully we can bring people together so the never ending violence comes to an end. >> i did not know him personally but he did live in vermont.

george soros, have you heard of i f stone? he was a mentor intellectually and one of these independent journalists who actually read material and asked hard questions and was a wonderful writer but lived the last years of his life in vermont but i never met him. one more question? >> [inaudible] >> remember i live, we came

here on your subway but we don't have subways like this in vermont so to get to work we drive. and what happens you have millions of working people, many of whom have seen a decline in their wages , now paying $4 or more for a gallon of gas coming right out of their paycheck and is taking their sorry economic situation even worse. here is what you have with gas prices. just back it up to our friends on wall street. win new talk to

people, people are very, very angry. there was the gallup poll for the first time people now believe the the kids will have a lower standard of living than they do. for the very first time. my parents did not have any money and my dad worked his whole life lived in a small apartment but their dream of every parent dreams that your kids will do better than new. but now people say my kid will have less education comment earned over wages wages, and there is a lot of despair and anger all over the country. if you would ask me one issue or fact that symbolizes that, if people saw the crux on wall street and i use that word, those whose greed and recklessness

and illegal behavior destroyed our economy for millions of people, people lost their homes and their life savings when the stock market went down but now after they were buildout buildout, those people are making more money than they ever did before. now someone throws the bricks zero window they go to jail they destroy the entire economy they make tens of millions of dollars of compensation. let people are beginning to understand that they have a so much wealth and power that they are untouchable the whole world is looking add it a nothing you can do

to me on the united states congress. you cannot touch me. so what divided destroy millions of lives? in my view that is the real reality. how does that deal with your question about gas prices? what you see right now is the series of oil prices of supply and demand of capitalist economics. when supply is limited and demand is high, prices go up. let me be the first to tell you that there is more oil supply in america today than there was one year-ago and on top of that, there is less demand today then one year ago. what is supposed to happen? prices are supposed to go down. the reason for that is our

friends at exxonmobil that make huge profits and have nothing paid in taxes but using the excuse of the middle east but they are not alone. and then with the oil companies to say route we are greedy and selfish but we're not the only ones. now what you see is speculation from wall street and bidding of the future oil prices and then under the financial reform bill one year-ago we gave authority to the arcane commission called the

commodities futures trading commission. two end extreme speculation that is their job and they have not done it. i have urged the president to take action if they don't too do it, get the resignation but a lot of people, working people and the economy as a whole are suffering wall wall street makes a lot of money. that is a perfect example of congress to do with a powerful entity to make huge sums of money. let me just conclude. >> >> senator sanders you were

doing a great job. as if they quantitative easing that is going on approximately a $1 trillion printed so where is that the money going to? will it create jobs or what? so what about the timing of it? who i am just worried about hyperinflation. >> as a good politician that may pick up on the point*. [laughter] you reminded me of something. that is an issue dear is an interesting some degree coming together and that is the fed and general.

i have serious doubts of the financial reform bill the frank -- dodd/frank bill because i don't think it went far enough. we bailed out the huge financial institutions because they were too big to fail they would take a good part of the economy with them. the then we find out after the bail-out three and other four are even larger today and a number of economists believe it is the reputation of a few years ago. this is interesting my right wing friend ron paul we had worked together when we were in the house. this is the interesting coming together that we want to do an audit of the fed what i ended up getting why this during the belau of

seven or $800 billion it ended up happening. but in any case if you want to know who receive the money go to the u.s. department of treasury website and find for every nickel went. but at the same time with very little discussion, our friends at the fed were lending out $3 trillion as a member of the budget committee bernanke said our constituents ought to know which financial institutions got the money?

how did you get it? to be a total dishonest institution or could you be a business person? is there a 1-800 number? he didn't think it was funny. [laughter] but he said i will not tell you but on that day we introduced legislation for transparency and managed to get the provision and then a couple of months ago they reveal the $3 trillion. needless to say, every financial institution got huge a low interest loans and what was also surprising and you will be delighted to know that the same time small businesses cannot receive cannot find affordable loans virtually

every central bank and the world including the ku region, not arabs, also got a bailout and as well as the wealthy families and large corporations like general electric. they all got a bailout and that was made public. also one of the arab banks getting a bailout now majority-owned by libya. that is how crazy it is. now the point* is an enormously important agency that people know very little fighting to bring transparency so bankers are deciding who got the loans and what i consider to be direct conflicts of interest and we have a provision which i hope will be

implemented in july and said gao we'll talk about conflicts of interest. and people will be a part of the process to benefit handsomely. what the fed is a huge issue we need to work more aggressively on that issue. the function of the fed should be to create decent paying jobs and protect the middle class not just doubt large financial institutions. [applause] . . to take difficult economic and financial concepts and translate them into english so that people know what she's

talking about, and i will tell you that i did more lobbying to get even roosevelt appointed than on any other issue because i will tell you when not long into the obama administration, i can't remember, six months come eight months, half a dozen senators went to the white house to meet with them and said mr. president, we are concerned you are surrounding yourself with the same old wall street guys whether it is larry summers geithner, etc.. so i was determined he gave his reasons why. but, i was determined that i would do everything i could to make sure there was at least one progressive voice their and certainly elizabeth has background. now there are a lot of republicans who are not enamored with the elizabeth. i certainly would have supported

a recess appointment. i hope the elizabeth will get the permanent appointment which she does not have right now but she is an extremely capable person who is dealing with issues of enormous importance. if you look at the bible or any other religious track with its the koran, whatever it may be, the tragic of high interest rates is considered to be immoral and the fury this if you don't have a lot of money and i am lending you money is wrong to get blood from the stone. i shouldn't be charging you such outrageous high interest rates. we get called this all the time. you get for the people paying 25, 40% interest rates on their credit card. that is no different than loan shocking. i don't know they're going around breaking kneecaps but

they punish people if they don't pay. and this is an issue i know elizabeth has been working on and thinking about something to deal with through her agency. it may be just a couple more questions. >> i'm wondering where the republicans have gotten away -- [inaudible] i'm wondering what might have been different if the democrats said okay, filibuster. >> i think that is an excellent question and i can tell you that there are a number of people all over this country and a number of us in the senate who feel the same way. harry reid is a good friend of mine and i like him very much.

his dilemma always is that he believes that he has a job that we have a job to pass legislation to address the problems facing america which is what the leaders job is. i think that we could have and should pick a particular issue. with the gentleman is talking about is we have seen a record level of obstructionism the day after obama was elected. you want to accomplish something you ain't going to do that. in the old days, the old -- was very rare for people to require the 60 votes to have to break the 60 votes to get cloture. very, very rare. now one almost every significant piece of legislation the of demand is 60 votes which is difficult. just one example. during the health care debate, i

introduced legislation the would call for a medicare single program. [applause] and by the way, i hope my state of vermont is going to lead the nation. they are working hard on that. in any case, i have no illusion at all that this was going to win. no way. somewhere between five to ten votes but i thought it was important to get out there. the first time in history a single pay has voted on it. unless i got up there to introduce the legislation and a republican colleague refused, when you do when you introduce legislation as say i ask that the bill be considered as read. in other words, you don't have to read the whole bill. i want the whole bill read. it would require 16 hours of reading. and this isn't going to win. lucky to get ten votes.

that's called obstructionism and that's what they have been doing. so, i agree we should have taken issue with republicans objectives and let the american people shut it down and let the media and the american people focus on that issue if it takes a week, two weeks, 24 hours a day, let's do it. that would have been my preference. [applause] [inaudible] think all of you for coming. >> [inaudible] we hope to see change and it's

sad to say a lot of fuss do hope -- i do believe there was a lot of -- [inaudible] [inaudible] >> allow me not to answer that specifically. anybody can look for anything. if i am -- you're asking if i'm going to be installed in that process, no i'm not, but here's what i think and i speak with knowledge about this because i

am an independent. i have run on a third parties and focus the independent history. i think you've got to be traditions about it. in other words i think in the real world i don't give a damn about anything i'm going to run for ever and i don't care to his wife when the senate, i really don't care on the principle and that's fine i can understand that. i disagree. i think however all over this country there are opportunities for progressive candidates to run and if you want to run outside of the democratic party, i think if the context is right, dewitt triet in 1988i was told not to run because i got a lot more votes than the democrats. so you've got to be judicious about it and also whether you choose to run within the democratic party or outside the democratic party this i do believe. i think that the republican agenda, tax breaks for

billionaires' and savage cuts on the need of the middle class and working families. these guys really do want to take us back to the 1920's where if you're old and poor your on your own, no health care for you. if you were a kid, didn't matter these are serious people. they are not fooling around. they want to take us back to the 1920's to the of the article society where power rested and they had very, very wealthy people. i think that their views, that ideology is way, way out of touch with what the american people believe. one of the problems we have is a pretty poor job which is also corporately owned to a large degree not to mention a television station so you've got that problem, but i think

whether you are running in the democratic party or not i beg of you do not become cynical, do not give up on the political parts. we are fighting for not only our generation, up but for our kids and grandchildren. i have six grandchildren. i take their future seriously. okay? and we do not have the option of not fighting. we can beat these guys. nobody believes in their ideology. nobody thinks that children in america should not have health care and workers should not have rights. [applause] and they are a strange movement and if the democrats have the guts to go out to organize, if we work together on this thing we can beat them and beat them badly. but we can't do it.

people all over this country are disappointed. i'm disappointed. but you can't give up. we have to raise that progressive agenda, make it loud and clear, organize people around that, educate what we're fighting for is important. it's the future of this country. so i just want to thank busboys and poets for hosting this. thank you. thank you very much for coming out. [applause] for >> for more information on senator bernie sanders, visit his web site, sanders.senate.gov

>> we are standing in the basement to the of the second baptist church and the second african baptist church is savanna history tells the story of twice freedom is what i like to say. first of all second african baptist was founded in 1802. the reverend cunningham and the second half over its history has trained more ministers in the baptist church than any other baptist church in america. but what is important in our city of savannah and 1865 fonted ury fourth, it was the site of the 40-acre speech. deutsch was by general saxon and behind me is the pulpit that was here in 1865 triet also here in

this room are the benches they would have been seated on that day. they are made in 1810 by a second african baptist church and they served to fold. first of all, if the minister who was appointed the in the benches will be facing front. but for a petition for a sample who may not be able to go into the pulpit the benches faced the back. so we have to wonder where that was in those days in 1865. but today they are reversible still. the very similar to the regular benches. but who knows what happened to the patent in those days. so, second african again, it rings true for freedom. in fact, they said they talked about shouting out the year of jubilee has come to the praise of the 3,000 blacks who've come here to find