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>> we do ask everyone in the house to do the courtesy check to turn off your cellphones it is good the speaker does that especially. [laughter] and we will post a program within 24 hours for future reference. third guess is a policy analyst at the institute for economic policy studies focusing on energy in regulatory issues and examines energy prices and in particular with

cap-and-trade legislation and the trouble with environmentalism has appeared on many programs locally as well as serving as an associate for a charitable foundation please help me in welcoming nec. [applause] >> thank you for coming here today. for what truly promises to be an educational and promising event with our speaker. when a about these issues and studying them for awhile as a global recession hit you have seen a shift from the green movement warning against the catastrophic consequences of climate change but shifting to the green jobs position moving to the clean energy economy. these policies have such far

reaching implications on businesses in households to rest on the shaky sets of assumptions when it comes to global warming we may be more blunt but it is troubling. the policy here in the united states to drive the price of energy ups of people use less those that restrict consumer choice and ignore the trade-off when purchasing appliances are liable soar vehicles. the policies fundamentally offer a system of free enterprise and have the underlying goal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and that just scratches the surface.

if you learn about the climate science and politics that goes on beyond -- beyond the political shift that is when the eyes begin to gold chain and your blood begins to boil and there is not many people that have done as much digging as our guest james delingpole has a british writer and logger that helped expose the climategate scandal and author of numerous books including welcome to obama land. i have seen you're future and it does not work and 365 ways to drive a liberal crazy. in 2005 he you received an award it ended in 2010 for on-line journalism and on his website james delingpole.com he knows he is a fan of great white sharks and people vampire's

we could have those discussions and other day. but today he discusses his new book "watermelons" the green movement's true colors" please join me in welcoming james delingpole to the podium. [applause] >> thank you. 81 me to talk about great white sharks, i can. thank you floor welcoming me to washington d.c. the home of small government and liberty. before i talk more about my book "watermelons" i want to show you a little film. >> the jt's is called the idea everybody start cutting carbon emissions by 10%.

i would love it if you in your family start to think about doing things. or take the next holiday by train. we're thinking of using our car less. it is said great idea to get a sense of how many. that is fantastic. thank you so much for today. just before you go, everybody please

remember to read chapter friday and six. >> just check on that. that is a brilliant idea. i love it to cut down emissions by 10% just a quick show of hands of everybody who wants to be involved. that is great. everybody. just for the record, no pressure, ending something here are at home should get working on it. those who are not, have a great weekend everybody.

>> it is great to be back. >> it means that we're trying to cut carbon emissions by 10% it comes from buses and trains not as much by car. >> would ever. just ignore its new pressure >> 10/10 hundreds of thousands of people and schools and businesses and a movie stars, president and government all tackling climate change in more than

40 countries. care to join us? no pressure. is that okay? >> sounded great to me. what do you think of it yourself? >> are you kidding me? i thought by doing the voice-over was my contribution. >> absolutely. no pressure. >> goodbye. thank you. >> today's stock is dedicated to the memory of the lap band tracie those who stood up to the ego fascist schoolteacher and died for their cause. how many of you have seen the video before? one-third of view. when people see that for the

first time, often the reaction is that must have been made by people like me for the fascist leanings for the green movement. you may be surprised to learn that that film was made to recruit people to the cause of environmentalism entirely for you can see the production value are pretty high rate and expensive to make. great radio head provides the sound track you have gillian anderson playing the schoolteacher and the film directed and written by britain's most bankable comedy director like

nottinghill and four weddings and a funeral. he is big part of the campaign was sponsored from organizations like sony the campaign was endorsed by all three parties and has the endorsement of the current prime minister and at no stage during the making of that film did anyone stop to think wait. what are we saying? are really saying people who don't believe in the theory of super genic global work -- global warming deserve to die? that is what they were saying.

to appreciate the semester absurdity imagine any other minority group. imagine if they decided the best idea would be to execute the muslims zero or gays it seems for those who made that video, people who do not believe then man-made global warming are so beyond the pale of reasonable human discourse that the only justice or penalty is death and comedy fashion. how do we reach that? how do we get into the mess? i contend in my book "watermelons" that the

man-made global warming industry and costly industry represents the biggest outbreak of mass hysteria in history and also probably the most expensive, correct that certainly the most expensive in history. one of the questions i said it -- sent out is if it is not true or it is a myth of man-made climate change, catastrophic climate change then why is it so many people think otherwise? how can it be we're in a situation where political leaders like david cameron and barack obama find

themselves in bed with activists with ed begley, jr., in bed also with carbon traders like al gore. also in bed with the oil companies like bp. make no mistake big oil puts far more money with the global warming industry than it dennis skeptics contrary to what you may read in the blogosphere. one australia and blocker blocker, she researched how much people spent on the man-made global warming

industry. since 1989 the u.s. government in european union spend approximately 85 times in the manhattan project funding research into man-made global warming. why would they cheat the data or lied to us? i can answer that in three words. follow the money. the manhattan project is reputed to be the most expensive scientific project in history and has spent five times that. scientist want to research the habits you will not get your funding. if you are a scientist and

want to research had been affected by a climate change you will get the funding. i would like to dispute for a moment the word that is constantly used. i am not denying that to climate change. nobody denies climate change. we had the period where it was warmer than it is now and we've had the little ice age and we are currently emerging from that. it emerges from that all the time. if anybody is denying climate change as a reality we all believe been climate change but we don't believe

58d is are completed. the idea of climate change, but when the greens use that subliminal man-made climate change this is where we've dispute it from my side of the argument. catastrophic and man-made climate change if you look into the records over the last 20 years the ipcc has grown increasingly shrill from the prognostication of the man-made climate dume. but in that period no convincing evidence has been produced to show that human

influence on climate is so significant or dangerous. but on the contrary global warming actually stopped or flat and out to over 10 years ago now. we are entering a period of cooling and we need to remember if we look at human history to lyng as opposed to warming, civilization flourishes and we are designed for warm weather. not that we cannot cope and the colder climates. we are very adaptable. we have igloos but i would

like to live in california. there is a reason. not the political climate but the weather climate. we are drawn to warmer weather. former whether saul's to main problems how to feed ourselves and in periods of forms you can grow wheat at higher latitudes. so the first part of my book "watermelons" covers the science. this is the part that really interest me of this debate is the sues geopolitics of climate change how many people believe ended? one reason is it is built

into our dna the in eight catastrophe and every generation believes that it is the last that it so shapes the world but it will destroy it throughout its own evo and if you look at religions through the ages and what it is about, this atoning the sins to appease the gods and the aztecs dealt with this by second facing people by sucking the blood out of the still beating heart. in the medieval times they did it but today it is by

imposing taxes forcing everybody to use crack the light bulbs that give you a headache. there is the thought we have to punish ourselves to make a better place but it is my contention in the book that may initially seem controversial but the facts bear it out that you don't have to make a choice between either the environment for economic growth. on the contrary, real environmentalism and economic growth go hand in hand. one example, in victorian

times i may tell you said tax rate is 10% when the british economy was thriving the river that runs through london like washington in the summer it would be so putrid in the summer months it was known as the great stink and as people go off the train sometimes they would fall mitt at the nauseating stench why does this no longer have been? because the victorians under that low tax regime of 10% had enough money to invest

on building an effective sewage system. they could do this because they did not have big government or the epa or the equivalent imposing taxes and regulation to make the river cleaner. from their own accord they thought we do not want to the river to smell. we'd like it to be clean. we don't like vomiting when we get off the train. what do we do? let's build a sewage system. that is what they did. now when you get off the train you do not throw up. the river is much cleaner than it was. but it is cleaner than it was probably 300 years ago. why?

as economies grow more mature, people can spend the money making the burled better. look at the great environmental disasters of the last century, where did the bad stuff have been? the soviet union, and now an north korea. china. this is what happens when people have their economic freedoms constrained by big government. what my book really is about in the end is a plea for a more rational discourse. i would like to stress if

you think i am evil nasty people who doesn't care, i would like to point* out that i am a nature boy i love long country walks where the view is not spoiled by a wind farm. i like looking at real animals. what is gored by the green movement is it this with two kinds of people on the one hand caring, sharing, those who are members of greenpeace and care about nature and on either hand that evil catalyst with big fat cigars and dollar sign

sun the pinstripes and say i want to destroy the world. nobody. believe me, and nobody looks at to the beach and to say do know what too would improve that? a bit was improve with the oil slick gore dying pelicans and a sea otter. we like the sea otters we like the beaches. it is in our nature to desire a cleaner and fresher and happier more for a grand world with sea otters. but we can achieve the world of getting the economy back

to good dark ages. there is a mentality in the green movement to save the city we must destroy it. i think that theory is wrong and self-destructive and not borne out to and 51 to discover more you could ask me interesting questions and read my book because it is good and it is funny. thank you. [applause] >> we will open two questions tata. please wait for the microphone state your name and affiliation and leave it to a question not a diatribe why he is right or wrong.

>> no violence are a tax anybody trying to rip off my clothes to have sex with me. >> ien with the tax foundation i have read the book the rational optimistic and it is very similar but global warming would be beneficial to you think he is right or wrong? >> if this easy to answer because nobody knows. some consider themselves that it is not they're position to argue about the science. it is easy to get bogged down in the esoteric stuff

on the future of your theory but we don't know what happens to the climate so i prefer to concentrate on the things that i know about. i read books i can see stuff happening in the world. but i would not want to prognosticate speaking at the heartland conference player of the view we're entering a cooling period and it tends to move in the third year cycles. but that we are warming gently. but as we said earlier, khoo

laing italy takes a couple of degrees centigrade of the average mean temperatures for wheat production to be jeopardized. why is the arab spring happening at the moment? because they watch "south park"? or is it the outpouring of said then liberalism in the middle east? no. because of the same thing that always causes revolutions like bread shortages. why are there at the moment? can anybody tell me? one word. biofuels. the most productive

agricultural land is taken up why is this booming? because our main interest cozy up to big government and environmentalists have told them biofuels are the way to save the world. they're actually destroying the world. a kind of answer your question. >> i want to ask about pollutants and i think there is some documentation. the fact there is air pollution, a toxins and particles on the effect of children and children's health. could you comment on that aspect? >> in the hills the cafe is

run by a keen on the wall of the cafe is a pitcher with this white stuff coming out. you can bet your bottom dollar that 95% of the people who come to the cafe to look at that picture who think pollution, the stuff coming at of the cooling towers is water vapor. but i think people have a flawed idea what constitutes pollution nor what does not. that epa believes co2 is a pollutant.

co2 is planned food it is not a pollutant. not for a second what i dispute that we need to limit pollution where we can. we do want a cleaner environment. but i would contend the way to achieve that is through the natural human instinct. occasionally you need laws to stop people and stop businesses from dumping. a lot like africa is a dumping ground i like africa that is part of my role. i don't want it to to be toxic. but i think we over regulate.

macquarie interesting story that julienne simon could doom slayer, he was the great sparring partner julian simon was once on a panel and london talking about the environment. the woman on and before him showed him what eight dramatic improvement to the air quality the introduction of the clean air act had. to reassignment produce day graph of his own going back

much earlier showing the air quality was improving anyway and pollution was going down quite naturally through the process. this your name to make things cleaner. there is a fantasy that without the intervention that other world would go two hell been a handcart. i say this is not the case. could you tell us something about the shift of public opinion in the wake -- wake of the climategate scandal showing those tax payer

funded largess this did to recur as a result? >> i am glad you asked the question. the brilliant thing about climategate is after words al gore said he was sorry for being so stupid and there was a resignation as the head of the ipcc and green peace disbanded, the epa stopped regulating. no. none of these happened. they ought to because what the email showed at the heart of the ipcc that obama's described as the gold standard of scientific

understanding of global warming behavior and not like scientist but more like activists. i know of many people who were previously agnostic who shifted s.a. result of climategate. it was said game changer in the way that 9/11 turned them to a more conservative view. the opinion polls suggest that the public grows more skeptical and has been since climategate. they are sick of fed the

propaganda and of the tax rises and regulations imposed on the name of the seemingly nonexistent problem. but it is now where the public is going but where the political class is going. the environmental movement. it is indicative of that. rather than admit they have things wrong environmentalist are growing more shrill. but the talk of zero shin acidification is like maybe carbon dioxide does not make the world get hotter but it does make the russians more acidic and that is bad. they are constantly looking

for new ways to justify their position and i believe it will be a long hard battle to counter that. they will not surrender very easily. >> can i ask due to reflect the alarm is and not just global warming but that human interest? what is the response to the next alarm? how do we and jack skepticism early enough? i think they got fed jump only after the scandals of opinion terence back. >> absolutely right. a classic example of what you just said.

shale gas is the energy revolution to transform all of our lives. it is cheap and hugely abundant across the world. if you believe in such things, relatively low-cost and relatively environmentally friendly. in available in places that are not like poland. one of the big problems in the world now is energy supplies are like in the movies. just like massive supplies place is like france.

that is really scary. shako gas is like a dream come true. in the stark economic times we can all agree on that. but yet to before we even knew of the existence, last year, this guy makes a film called gas land when somebody turns on the tap tap, methane comes out and he'd like this it from his tap. how did he get in there so

soon? they are very, very quick to get the propaganda and first. i think there is a disposition with the slight tendency toward complacency because we believe the world should function on the level of logic of what works and what is true and therefore what takes care of itself because that is logical and right. the philosophy of the green movement for the progressives and liberals generally it is about denying reality.

it is about winning the argument not through facts and logic and open debate by closing down the argument through propaganda. there will never be a solution because the other side fights 30. we just have to hope that to in the end day natural justice will prevail. we see that in the delicious collapse of the carbon trading market. al gore, coleman's accept the occur been trading exchanged a couple of years ago trading at $7 per ton.

just before the exchange closed it was $0.7 per ton. occur been trading market is tanking in europe that suggest you cannot buck the market. there is a natural capitalist this stage capitalistic justice system that cancels out the seeking we who. >> a quick question to dovetail what you said. are you trying to marginalize your views? >> yes.

at the university report made to the commission which is kind of a big deal they try to destroy my career but i don't take too many prisoners. i could be a bit rude but at least to have a factual basis. the example in my book is that al gore in the incident in portland oregon although it delights me he was called out in cannot be trusted that is not the basis of my argument that is the cherry on the icing but my argument

is that he is the rent seeking businessman. the way the other side treats people like me is they don't want to engage with the arguments but destroy us. for example,, christopher has increased disease with the bulging eyes. that is not a reason why his argument should not be trusted it just maine's fee has craves disease. i once wrote that i had manic depression. you have the university using public money to launch a case against me and it was carefully constructed. the bbc one of the arch advocates, not to an annual

party, it to teamed up with the nobel prize-winning geneticist to construct essentially what was a hit job on me. a neutral science documentary looking at the pros and cons of global warming. but what actually emerged, i am not a known rate. not sour grapes but what happened. it was that the number one, anybody who does not believe in man-made global warming is anti-science and irresponsible. if you do not believe in man-made global warming you

fit into the same category as people that think aids is not caused by the hiv virus and those who destroy fields of sharecrops. it was a complete smear job and i was very naive to take part in it. but i m a trusting guy. i thought i will give a nobel prize and he will come to my house and a the bbc assured me he had not made up his mind about global warming. he really wanted to fight -- find out the truth as a neutral party. this is my chance to put my side across. if i did my research i would have realized that one year before he made the documentary he hosted a

dinner for the rockefeller foundation at his house in new york attended by george soros and ted turner. i can tell you said they are not neutral parties in the debate. this is how they operate. glad to put this on the record because it to say that james delingpole is such a fool to exposed but the feel this genetics ire read english literaturliteratur e at oxford. if i were going to make a

documentary about beowulf i would not can fault -- consoled somebody in the virginia woolf department. they cannot foul save the credentials. scientists are not all the same and they do all not everything. it is about specialities. sonat to see if this from what is happening in the field of climate science ibm not sure it is even a social science. thank you for that. >> we are running up against day deadline so please join me to congratulate the james on

his new book. [applause] >> >> crawfish bought them losses and frankfurt kentucky and initially the place nobody else wanted to live because it had the cheapest housing and flooded off. that was attractive to the

freed slaves also very attractive to the families of prison inmates. they could move up and need did cheap housing. we had a lot of families with incarcerated prisoners and free trade and a great deal of gore immigrant families. again, the area was flooded so housing was often considered dilapidated. people called for the cleanup that they said somebody needs to do something about the neighborhood. i say it was a wild place and had a reputation of the bad part of town.

it was probably well-founded and to there was a couple of logging facilities they would be paid and they would go crazy so a lot of the giants and saloons dam prostitution occurred in the neighborhood. fact but then historians got ahold of that with references to the neighborhood of the zero it was referred to as the underbelly. once they got ahold of the persian they were in tranche from public memory. despite the fact despite in

the thirties or forties or fifties became a close knit neighborhood known as a wild part of town. >> what was the demographic? >> it was known as the black part of town but that percentage was very slight and often times but part of that demographic, all of them were poor but a working class neighborhood. police officers, those two were given the of the factory and all lived in the neighborhood. a working-class neighborhood but interestingly enough the most recent residence remember it as the integrated neighborhood but time after time people were

talking of their situation then they were divided so that is the interesting perspective i did not expect receipt or o history introduced. it was but they were calling for the destruction of the neighborhood since the 1870's. that call was persistent a allaying it was the bad part of town with the sons of frankfurt but talk about the slums of disease during that time period calls for cleaning up the time period.

during the time of urban renewal struck the nation when frankfurt decided budget referring to and on the bottoms was wiped out during urban renewal replaced with the civic center and the ymca, hotel ymca, hotel, state government building. the tower. the vision moss's this would be a pedestrian mall to walk and shop. we're standing on the corner of the grounds of the old state capital and right across the street is where crawfish bottom began which is interesting you have the state legislators right across the street and some have considered the of bad

part of town and you were a stone's throw away but it was 50 acres taken out buy it urban renewal some of those who could not give day consistent at -- dancer which was the fun of it and shifting boundaries some people said krogh was just the corner where some would actually say the rest of it was bottoms the other part would say the whole thing is cross some would say these four blocks but the in -- beyond that was the bottom end public memory of

where people live and also they were remembering something that no longer existed. the person who did the interviews showed a map and would say this was here and here but not like it was the last 20 years. >> where did those families go? >> that is the controversy because promises were made by the city from the same public housing and affordable housing options and the city fell short to say we would provide alternative housing so wherever they could afford to live in it was saddened by the fact but it was a

loss of the community where they say i am the only african-american in this neighborhood i could not tell you who lives next door to me on either side but in reality, when they were here it was a situation they went to the neighbor. if they were not seen somebody will knock on their door. contrast that to putting people into a nicer neighborhood that has complete lack of committee was disheartening for most residents. with the feeling of frustration and resentment came about. and for the most part they were