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>> and din some cases the regime's that have been replaced and have been good friends and allies were with them. so evaluating the outcome in terms of u.s. interest i think there is a lot that we don't yet know about him. in terms if we should be supportive, it is important for us as we continue to express our support of certain values that we believe people ought to have the opportunity to live by

of freedom and democracy and i think that needs to come through. but you have to be cautious in terms of our read promoting that process of the islamic fundamentalist that the have won election then shutdown the electoral process with hamas running on gas up. we don't know yet. >> should the united states take them more of ryan to roll to promote the arabs bring? >> to do what? cautious partly because of things we don't know. but also it is important to be a little cautious all

together. might experience with that part of the world is important to remember that in some cases there are linguistic differences and religious differences between the split of shia and sunni and you have governments that i think we're probably days probably viewed as legitimate have and with others, syria comes to mind with the dictator to use violence to preserve his hold on power and most of us can agree that he ought to go. but talk about the air of spring, i think i understand what that means and it has been welcome and of fundamental change every form but i do think it is

important to keep in mind as we evaluate these developments that each and every one of these countries is different and needs to be dealt with accordingly. >> i am your average is a decision. when do we know we won the global war on terror? >> it is not similar to what we think of as conventional war weary we get the battleship missouri steaming into tokyo harbor. that will not have been.

i think there is evidence out there remaking significant prod -- progress. getting osama bin laden was very important. and demonstrated part of the process but it may be the kind of thing that gradually fades over time but i don't think there is likely to be of moment that you say it is done. >> if i could take you back to your earlier comments the great controversy of the close of bush 41 administration that general mccourt -- general sports cough that if we continue the march to may have been a

different outcome. what do you think that would have been if his advice was pursued and change the course of events? >> he is talking about when we were in charge of the pentagon i was a secretary he was the comptroller. [laughter] and looking back on that, careful not to challenge my colleagues from that era because they have done good work but my recollection is that there was unanimity on the part of presidents in senior civilian and military advisers we gathered around the desk of the oval office with a secure line open to

riyadh where the senior military commander general schwarzkopf was. looking back on it later to say we should have done this or let them have helicopters for there were things we did not know what the time. but there was a general sense we have done what we've set out to do. what the u.n. security council had signed up but we told the coalition and the troops and i promised with of course, his in saudi that we complete the mission and go home. there is a general sense should we have gone all the way to baghdad? >> circumstance is were

dramatically different 10 years later after we had the events of 9/11 after reside some violate 16 out of 17 security council resolutions. and using weapons of mass destruction against his own people. the world had shifted 10 years later. and if there was a way of our one that i would have liked to have changed is to have some at the table that one of the things that emerged and he was very creative. had no qualms about misrepresenting the situation but after words he peddled himself best somebody who had

sex -- successful day defied the great state of america because after all we had done he was still standing. the fact he was still standing to validate the notion that he had one per of course, he had not but he could peddle that if that part of the world. what i would like to see different the is not going to baghdad but sit his fanny in the chair to signed the surrender document. >> i am from the o'quinn daily newspaper but i'll also serve five years as the united nations spokesmen and iraq is a disaster zone with

very little chance to recover for decades to come. the united states is about to cut and run but was a mistake to invade iraq? >> i think it is a mistake to cut and run. i don't think we should turn our back on iraq at this stage and to monitor over the years it is very important to complete the mission. my own personal view is there is a danger to rush for the exit under the current administration. that would be unfortunate. >> >> i am with aei and president bush, in his memoir which does not purport to cover the whole administration does not

cover 2003 through 2006 so would you say about the criticism the president was insufficient name monitoring his generals and not be eliciting early enough or as early as desirable for that to strategy? could that have been done earlier? >> i am inclined, first of all,, what i remember is the president was heavily engaged during that period of time and not ignoring what was going on. with operations in iraq. we had fairly regular sessions and to hook up to baghdad not only with our senior people but also

iraqis. a picture that i put it in my book of rumsfeld, rice and die at camp david it does that show the president because he is on the other end in baghdad and rehab day secure hook up he has gone into have an important session with prime minister al-maliki. the notion he turned his back on our was not focused or was not engaged i would challenge that. i don't think it is true. >> let me take the prerogative to bring this back to 9/11. you make the case it change the government. but in many respects it change the country but did it change you? >> 9/11 change me?

>> it did not change me in the way that some have suggested i have friends out there that used to be friends. [laughter] i knew dick cheney when he was a nice guy. cold open and he begins greeting his guest and is wearing bluejeans. can he asks me if i will wear the suit that is on a hanger on the show that night. at that point* i open the door and come out of the dressing room and dressed as darth trader.

[laughter] and he was part of the joke but it did not hurt -- help my image jenny. [laughter] i cannot say it did not change me. it is part of my life and an important milestone for all of us. spending fennecs seven and a half years to make absolutely certain that whenever happening again on our watch meaning we had to take steps and enact policies we would guarantee the safety and security of the american people. hi see that here is the problem here is what we will do and we did it. the notion of change came to

the focus of my own mind to say i thought the floor of this problem of the 9/11 style terrorist attacks as tough but the events brought that home. and that i and my concern is a fair way to put it of the potentially devastating consequences. we have anthrax the tax at the same time and it turns out those were probably domestically initiated. one night i remember being added dinner one month later and has we landed going down to the waldorf as the speaker for the evening i received word of a botulism

attack in the white house suggesting that we had been exposed to the botulism toxin which is deadly and deadly. we did not know that was true or a false reading. it turned out to be false fortunately so there was a level of ashley concern and the immediate aftermath where we had to deal with. on 9/11 you get a report there are six planes hijacked and it turns out there was only four. there was enough. a car bomb at the state department and it turns out there was not. it turns out of report of a plane that had gone down in the west virginia border. and there was the report of the plane down in

pennsylvania in chinks fill and turns out that was true. united 93. as we went to the process and the immediate aftermath there is no question of a significantly elevated level of concern but i don't know how to do my job if i had not and part of my job was to make certain we never again got hit like we did on 9/11. >> thank you mr. vice president and the american enterprise institute for hosting. thank you for coming. [applause] >> lee are extraordinarily grateful to have a friend

like you that represents the ambitions so well. we are so thankful for your time this morning. thank you for being here and the questions we will let you get out of here. i think you have media interviews then we will excuse the crowd. >> fall is one of the biggest book selling seasons and book release season ends of them all. this is the 2011 fallbrook preview show and joined by two industry watchers and book followers. bob minzesheimer with "usa today" the book critic for the newspaper in new york

city and jason boog is with "galleycat" which is a website that covers the publishing industry. thank you for being on a booktv today. i want to start by asking you which book you are most excited about or looking forward to this fall. >> i will mention three books and try to do them briefly. one is already out in for a book critic that is a no no. i should have read it already which is called what it feels like to go to war. his son novel about vietnam last year called matterhorn which i thought was extraordinary and took in 20 years to get it published he shifted to nonfiction to write for military and civilian audience of what combat is really like that the military does not fair

at -- prepare soldiers said technological and the but not the emotional and philosophical he is good about writing others about war and shifting a book called elizabeth in hazel. to women of the rock about two women 15 years old in 1957 and captured in a famous photograph has the of blacks to been insuring little rock high school and a white woman yelling at her and the story of their improbable friendship and how about a french ship fell apart. they made a movie and they will probably end with the french ship also looking at what jack call-in kennedy had to say shortly after is

the assassination of kennedy that is the world history coming out next week. >> host: the caroline kennedy book semi she is the editor. >> conversations on life with john f. kennedy. is that the book? >> that is it. >> host: bob minzesheimer why did the french ship fall apart? >> i have not got 10 that far in the book. stay tuned. >> host: jason boog "galleycat" what are you looking forward to? >> a new book about men tin tin. the famous dog starring in a number of movies. when i first heard of the book i was skeptical i read that excerpt and it blew me away. i am excited to see the story. it across his different world wars and i am looking forward two it.

>> host: you both mentioned biographies. that includes christopher hichens what can you tell us about this? >> he has not put together a collection of essays like this in a few years. maybe 2004 so it will cover a lot of ground from the controversial stance on the iraq war and al qaeda and more current events and is now fairly ill with cancer so it will put him out into the public and to be an important book of his career >> if i could add to that that, dipping in and out of the christopher hichens and whether you agree with him are not over not he is a lot of fun to read. >> host: michael moore has his biography here comes

trouble and also our "in-depth" guest in october. >> i am excited about that book. >> he is from michigan i watched his work on plant and shows his life before he was of filmmaker so i am looking forward to the stories from his life. >> we did a short interview with him in the paper i think today which was last thursday and described it as not a memoir but some stories including 13 years old and ran into bobby kennedy. >> a book by michael moore does that automatically be a large print run the? >>

>> he has such a big following online. if you go to the website you see the people who are talking about the book i think it will sell a lot of copies. >> host: well-known authors who may generate automatic large branch runs our economic books. sylvia nasser comes out with grand pursuit and michael lewis, of boomerang troubles in the third-world. what can you tell us about these books bob minzesheimer? >> soviet is best known for her last book which is a beautiful mind which was the oxymoron in was helped by the fact that it became a movie with russell crowe. she has a big following. what she is trying to do is

add some humanity and personality. this is a new idea that most people were doomed to live lives with poverty and despair was a given and traces how that has changed. >> host: what about michael lewis? >> i am really looking forward to this book. the big short looked at the economic meltdown how the stock market crash affected united states but next she goes around the world to look at your ups and others but it we are not the only ones suffering through the economic crisis and looking at the way of global commerce is an important into thing to do.

>> also talk about the new third world there is a strict division between the developing countries and trying to get beyond that to show what easy credit did to a lot of the economy's including our own. it is also -- he is also a delightful writer. >> host: there is a book called out cane and hijack. >> this interests mane personally. i am working on of book about the great depression and how writers survived but this looks at a critical moment when he economist tried to decide how we should respond to the great depression in.

the two different views say is we should spend a lot of money to put the country back to work and we will see these dynamics play out during the election and so it is a good time to read up on the issues. >> and frederick hayak who i believe was an austrian economist not believe that government should intervene was on the best seller list thanks to glenn beck who is a fan of his theories. >> host: one book that has gotten a lot of attention on the east coast jason boog dick cheney book in my time a memoir. is that getting always? >> believe it or not the last time i checked it is number two in the history section and number 10 overall. people all over the country are interested in reading

the book. he served during a crucial moment and does not look like he is apologizing for much of an already getting reactions saying that he took cheap shots. you have seen him on television a lot and that helps. >> "usa today" last it was number four and we include both paperback and hardcover however to put into perspective, the novel that was a movie of selling four /1. but the week after next will be number one on "the new york times" nonfiction hardcover list. >> host: bob minzesheimer a book like this by a vice president although controversial potentially

potentially, does that have staying power? >> probably not. they talk about journalism and a the first draft of history will a lot of people be reading that? i doubt it. >> the second half of condoleezza rice memoir and this is about her years. >> i was thinking they should interview each other. [laughter] >> i would watch that and a second. [laughter] >> we have bob woodward interviewing dick cheney so we do have that for our archives. but what about condoleezza rice? have you heard anything about this? she is at stanford.

>> it is quite a head of the phone. 700 pages and she served at the historic time the first-ever jarret -- african-american woman to be secretary to serve and it will be a very historic book. she has a lot of scores that she wants to settle. 700 pages worth. >> host: will you read that book jason boog over is that may be a washington read to go through the index and look for names? >> at my a job writing four "galleycat" we do the index read looking at the portions that interest our audience the most we have or the done that with chaney's book is an interesting way but i am interested to find out the books that and bluster and what she wants to answer. >> host: will you read the condoleezza rice book, bob

minzesheimer? >> no. not a whole thing. i am curious it has been embargoed with no advance copies. i did read most of her first book about growing up in segregated alabama and was rather interesting. what the public sure put out this diplomacy and humanity and i wonder if that was a dig at the former vice president is humble was not an adjective addressed to him. >> host: and her second volume of autobiography comes out on the first. booktv interview her for the first half and you can watch that interview at book t. b..org. use the search function in the upper left-hand corner

of our website home page. when former governor and current governor currently have books out starting with mitch daniels keeping the republic saving america was this a pre-presidential run book, bob minzesheimer? >> probably. i don't know for sure i am sure the of publisher was disappointed he did not decide to run. i am not sure if a book by a presidential candidate really become best sellers. they write the books for a variety of reasons. just the idea to get the idea out there. we probably have not heard the last of mitch daniels. >> jennifer granholm has the new book out to the fight for jobs with america's economic future put out by

public affairs. jason boog, will you read it? >> i will actually. i am from michigan and she took the state probably during the roughest time in history i was living in new york i was not in michigan but just talking to my a family it was a rough time and her focus on jobs interest me. i like that approach better than he has the blurb that is called anti-obama. i don't like when the book is a get somebody but focuses on the specific. i am looking forward to checking that out. >> host: herman cain for president. and october he has his

autobiography. >> notice the exclamation point. he is the latest incarnation of someone who has been very successful with grandfathers' day scavo this pizzas now was to take those into politics calls them american black conservative. i.c.h. most people will not bet on his presidential campaign. he has interesting ideas and i will leave it there. >> with the candidate who may not be that well known, what kind of a print run do you have? >> one of the dirty secrets that they always exaggerate their branch runs. it is hard to know sometimes 20,000 the really 10,000

copies and it is all relative. and books are influential but by numbers alone, it is a drop in the bucket. 25,000 copies in one week but in a country of 300 million common that it is not a lot. i don't put a lot of stock and a print run is because they are unverifiable. >> herman cain is also at a very sure bet for publishers. any time somebody comes in with a strong following on the radio with the built an audience, publishers love that and make more bets on people like him that already have the platform. that is where publishers put their money. >> host: that is published by threshold. >> threshold i believe is a

more conservative imprint. we see more of these actually glenn beck has his own imprint. to promote the people that he likes. it is a strong movement and a more conservative focus. >> host: bob minzesheimer does a conservative book have the of bill to an audience? >> i think so. there is no way to prove this that the party out of power does better at bookstores. during the bush administration, a lot of books critical did well in the bookstores. of the same thing for bill clinton critical anti-clinton books now we see conservatives do well in the obama administration but

the numbers are a lot different. more people quote and buy books. but a book like herman cain i am sure he did not write that book to make much money are may not make anything hardly at all. that is an attraction they don't have to pay the author very much money. >> this is a booktv on c-span2 2011 fallbrook preview show. bob minzesheimer book critic for "usa today" and jason boog is with "galleycat" which is the web site devoted to publishing news and book reviews. one of their political book is just recently announced gabrielle difference. >> i put that up earlier this week's people circulated that people are

very excited to see what happened in her life sense that tragic shooting when also her husband just a good trip to space it is such a powerful combination would be hard pressed to find a more exciting them more. >> host: coming out in november anita hill has a book coming out this fall. >> this is her second book. if you don't have a long memory, she was a witness against clarence thomas in the confirmation hearings 1991? sometime around them. she wrote about that experience in her last book and trying to get to beyond that he said/she said. it is the book that seems to be a blend of her life growing up poor in rural oklahoma and the stories of other women who rose above their circumstances and more

sociological and philosophical view of gender discrimination. >> those that lend themselves to the same theme but there is a book called the that used to be yes and pat buchanan book suicide of a superpower. what can you tell us? >> pat buchanan it is the apocalyptic book but he is really taking the view our country is in trouble. he will look do the tea party and a conservative movement to get us out of this. it will try to stoke the fires to push the division we are seeing right now

which i think we've made books to bring it together. his book seems like it will be polarizing. >> there is the another title by tom brokaw but it addresses all three books of different perspectives that the country is a draft not addressing fundamental problems. we went through world war ii, and amaze come a cold war, and now a global war against terrorism, not sure who the enemy is our but a lot of authors are addressing that.

this the country know where it is headed? >> the book how america fell behind have feign tom friedman's name on of book, does that sell it automatically? >> yes. a columnist for the near times with a proven track record on policy issues and has the knack of writing about policy in ways you don't have to be a policy want to understand. conservatives would view them as a liberal but it is fairly open-minded two points of view and to form opinions. >> the time of our lives, i

a conversation about america. do you want to add something? >> and tom fried men speakes was such a powerful audience, you will see his book read in the first-class section of all airplane rides. a fascinating demographic. it has spread and the love to watch that happen. >> host: bob minzesheimer there is a book that caught our attention in the upcoming book in october did the monopoly of. >> i have not read it but about it. as much as i understand, with the patent with the tissues that are taken from patients in hospitals have become the property of the hospital or

the pharmacy company. in some ways with the life but the fascinating piece of history and then what happens with cancer research but this is a policy attack. and the medical care industry. >> host: the subtitle of the deadly monopoly the shocking corporate takeover of life itself and the consequences for your help and our medical future. gentlemen, henry louis gates has a book coming out life upon the use shores. and is published in november. that is a lot of years he is

covering. >> it is loaded with illustrations and historical stories. it will be an interesting look. to show us things we have not learned a and little corners of history i get excited. >> and i just got my galley comment the advance copy of the book and it almost looks like a substantial coffee table book that it is designed to be attractive he did say scholar he is trying to popularize history it is not as much as academic scholarship but to popularize the history. >> host: miele ferguson and nonfiction and author

and he is writing about a new topic. >> i have not gotten that far i am not do my november books. >> actually of the tuomo are well known in the u.k. and he takes a conservative view and he likes to show how important england and europe was to the development of the world to get into controversial territory. this is aimed at 17 year-old's to fill the gap in the education system the way we teach history. >> host: well-known washingtonians and the head of the broadcasting board of governors, walter isaacson has another book coming out of his full-time job based on steve jobs originally scheduled to be released

next march and have moved it up to november. >> he is having quite a rush job. a tremendous biographer. he does great work benjamin franklin, einstein, the a and -- and this will include the recent resignation that is amazing a the turnaround he must have had to do and the impact on the company will be included. a lot of people want to know why apple is so successful at a time when our country is not. that will be one of the best sellers of the year. >> it is being described, not authorized but steve jobs cooperated and gave interviews in which he has not done many interviews and that adds to the importance of the book.

>> host: i don't know if you have seen in the cover but it is one large picture of steve jobs. what do you think of that. >> i have not seen that and cannot see your camera. >> it is a great picture of him and the way people want to remember her. i know his health is not so good right now and a great way to remember him. >> host: three well-known media folks have books also jim lehrer and bill o'reilly and chris matthews. tension city inside the presidential debate comes out in september and he is on the afterwards program. bill o'reilly has said book

called killing lincoln the shocking assassination that changed america up. what new can we bring to the table regarding the assassination? that is one of my questions next week. this is a myth that more books have been written about abraham lincoln than any other historical figure other than jesus christ. but a lot of writers have proven there is always something new to be said. whether bill o'reilly has that, lot of scholars have devoted their lives to writing about abraham lincoln in. >> host: new book on jack kennedy and it has a

november release. >> it will be a cool book. because of his journalism career he could speak with people who knew kennedy and all parts of his life then to piece together stories that other people told him. is there is the chance it could have new things we have not seen before. >> there is a bookstore in chicago devoted entirely to books and abraham lincoln i thought there could be another bookstore devoted just to kennedy. >> >> host: bob minzesheimer what is the state of the publishing industry that it is an transformation and decline. >> this better shape than the newspaper industry. not as good a shape as 1920.

there seems to be no decline in the number of books being published but for readers it is a good time. talk about the death of the music industry and that is what publishers too not one to follow by four people who like music this is a wonderful time. not if you are the stock holder in as sony are columbia music but i am afraid to say turn the corner but probably feeling of a little better than they did. the growth of the books that of fears opportunity and challenge is whether more

authors begin to self published especially big names but this is a good time i don't read about the industry as much as readers. >> it is an exciting time. i am not worried about readers at all with digital books people say was i have that e-reader they read more than they did before. it is quick, fast and less expensive and hard cover. but the publishing industry will get smaller because digital books do not earn the same amount of money they earn from hardcover. so you will see less bay book deals and also more riders -- rioters they will go the independent route to publish themselves or

scattering of independent publishers that are blossoming around the country. >> the big thrill it is those that found the books in the bookstores can they buy a bet e but? they are trying but that is the big question and publishers say they need a showroom where people discover books because there is so many being published. >> we cannot underestimate the impact that will be on the publishing industry we have lost thousands and thousands of shelf space daddy evaporated will have a profound influence on how books are sold in the future >> host: jason boog now you have had time on the west coast from new york comedy you have a different

perspective? do you see different trends? >> we have a very bad tendency in new york city to become like a snob to think there are no writers except brooklyn and new york city. it is completely the opposite there is a rich community and los angeles review of books, "l.a. times", literary journals and it is a flourishing community and does not get the attention and people don't realize how many writers are out here. and best of all the climate is perfect for a writer with the great weather constantly see you can go outside to sit with your notebook and let's your thoughts go. >> host: when will we see your book that he referred to? >> we will wrap that up

early next year and it is called will write for food. >> host: bob minzesheimer of our new york literary people snobbish? >> certainly not. no. [laughter] it is funny because the publishing industry we tend to think of them as only the big five or six publishing giants who are based in new york and dominate the best seller list with they do not publish the vast majority of books. one of the fascinating facts i have learned that barnes & noble best-seller is 40 books for different list. 40 books and accounts for or

6% of overall sales of more than 90% of people are beating of their books. those are being published by companies i probably have never heard of some of our literary publishers, niche publishers, so it is a huge industry and so much bigger than any other mass media. i often thinks -- thing books should not be thought of as the mass media except for best sellers most are read by such a small number of people. thrown together they become a big industry but separately, not like a big movie where one-third of the country may go see it or a tv show before cable. >> host: the book critic for "usa today", bob

minzesheimer and jason boog is with "galleycat" our website is booktv.org and you can watch any number of our none thousand programs we have covered in our 13 years. thank you for the 2011 fall book review of. >> thank you very much. >> booktv continues a look at the upcoming titles february 2011 now we are designed by the vice president and senior director there are three

books 312 talk about i want to start with this one. >> the final victory. has already been named one of the big books of the year. during the time with esophageal cancer and in new he was dying and baker did his family and do he had one year to finish writing his memoirs to do get it published so the finances could be used for his family. who was his publisher? mark twain so there is the back story that is all about grants last year. >> host: did he get it published? >> three days after turning in the manuscript he passed away. >> host: doug grant memoir is a model for current president's? finreg is legendary the best

presidential memoir ever written but also the of best military history is another presidential book by stanley weintraub this looks at pearl harbor and the days immediately following the bombing and the state of america at that time. it in some ways the most unified christmas in history. >> host: why make this a a book? >> he cannot go wrong and attends to look at holidays and history in america up. it was a perfect match. >> one more. he had previously done by orders-- parodies of the life of frederick who we know as the designer of

central park but he was also an abolitionist and a journalist which i was not aware of. this chronicles the different places he designed for it including the of mclean and mental hospital and he ended up at that hospital at the end of his life. his life became a full circle in that way. . .