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the future looked pretty bright. we paid a lot of money for it. and it was -- and the way the deal was structured is we bought the company even though mark willis the cereal killer who was the ceo of times mirror -- by the way, he got that title -- he used to be the co-chairman of general mills where they made all the cereal and the staff of the "l.a. times" was phenomenal. if the staff of the "l.a. times" would have done as well at journalism as they did come up with nicknames we wouldn't be talking about this 'cause they did a great job. [laughter] >> and so they nicknamed mark the cereal killer because cue in right away and started cutting things and cutting staff. he went and closed new york news day and, therefore, he got that name. but when the tribune bought it, mark willis didn't know that the tribune was buying the company. they bought it when he wasn't even looking. it was just a little nice back
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stabbing drama playing out in a place where they literally made drama in los angeles and i think because they were trying to really do the deal in secret, a lot of things that we should have known about that we didn't know about came back to haunt us later. and the company got in this -- the things that we didn't know about like a huge tax case circulation problems at news day and circulation fraud all of these sort of things came back to haunt us and really became -- put us in a troubled condition which made us vulnerable. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. next on booktv, jay feldman reports on the curtailment of civil liberties for minorities during times of war and strife in the u.s. the author tells of several groups that have faced persecution from the deportation of mexican immigrants and mexican-americans throughout the depression to the placement of
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112,000 japanese americans in internment camps during world war ii. this is just under an hour. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you. and thank you all for turning outlet tonight. -- out tonight. tonight. -- out tonight. manufacturing hysteria is the story of -- it's about how the government scapegoats minorities in times of crisis.
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and uses the hysteria that's generated by that scapegoating to clamp down on civil liberties, surveils citizens. the pattern we'll see repeated over and over again from the first world war forward. the periods we'll talk about will be world war i, the red scare immediately following world war i. the deportation and voluntarily repatriation of mexicans and mexican-americans during the depression. world war ii. the cold war. and the civil rights and vietnam war era and just wrap up things with how -- where we stand today. it's come to my attention since
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i've been talking about this book to people on the radio that there's an impression particularly among younger people but not only among younger people that the surveillance state started with 9/11. actually, as we'll see, it started with the run-up to america's entry into world war i. so how does this happen in a democracy? the story starts in the months leading up to the united states' involvement in the first world war. the government took a three pronged attack to isolate first germans and german-americans. and after that, a number of other groups that i'll mention
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in a moment. the three prongs of that attack were propaganda, surveillance, and legislation. propaganda was carried out, initiated by a government agency that woodrow wilson established for this expressed purpose called the committee on public information. it was nothing but a propaganda agency aimed at creating hysteria and fear of germany and everything german, which included german-americans at the time german-americans were the largest ethnic minority in this country, the cpi committee on public information put up roadside advertising. they published pamphlets and books. they produced movies and all
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with this intent of whipping the public into a state of hysteria concerning germans and german-americans. the press was complicit in this process. and the new york herald published a list of every german alien living in new york city at the time complete with addresses. and so you can see at the bottom here -- it says, showing them up be the herald's alien list and the caricatures of the germans marching in the street with beer kegs -- this is obviously a banker with a top hat. very quickly the focus read and
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it soon as well took in everybody who was opposed to the war, every dissecting voice including pacifists, socialists, industrial workers of the world, anarchists, mennonites, irish americans and the next photo i would like to show you, this is the deportation of wadly's industrial workers of the world from bisbee, arizona. it was a late night roundup of the groups. there was a railway depot put on cattle cars and ferried out to
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the desert and dropped off to fend for themselves. so that would basically be the outline of the propaganda part of it. the legislation included a number of laws which would aimed at suppressing dissent. and they included the threats against the president act, the trading with the enemy act, the notorious espionage act, which is still on the books. espionage act of 1917 was passed in the senate with only six votes against, one of whom was senator william broya of idaho which said it suppresses free speech and does it all in the
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name of war and patriotism. there were a number of people who felt that the espionage act didn't go far enough and the following year an amendment to the espionage act, which came to be known as the sedition act was passed, which gave postmaster general absolute power over every mailed publication. and suppressed every last form of dissent. and even the hawkish theodore roosevelt was appalled by the sedition act. i should point out that no spy or saboteur was ever convicted during world war i under the espionage act. it was instead used against lab labor, leftists and other dissenting voices on the war.
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the surveillance part of the story we can trace to the bureau of investigation which it was the precursor of the present day federal bureau of investigation. in 1917, j. edgar hoover came to work for the bureau of investigation. he was a young law school graduate, graduated from georgetown university. worked at the library of congress for a while as a cataloger and then came and put his -- the skills that he had used as a cataloger to work at the b. -- fbi. he went to work what was called the general intelligence division better known as the radical division. during the red scare, hoover amassed a file catalog called the editorial card index of 2,500 expressentries.
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a staggering amount of information considering he worked there a year or two. on his rise to the top, by the end of the red scare, 1920, his file catalog had expanded to include 450,000 entries. think about it in a second in an era before electronic surveillance or any capability. i'd like to read you a section -- i'm going to depart just a little bit from the standard book talk format. i'm going to sprinkle some readings throughout my talk. and this is by far the longest one that i'll read. this is from the very beginning of the book. to give you an idea of the
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extent that the attack -- the attacks on german-americans reached. on the night of april 4th, 1918, nearly a year to the day after the united states entered world war i, a harrowing spectacle was unfolding on the streets of collinsville, illinois, a small market center and coal mining community of 4,000 located 12 miles across the river from st. louis. trailed by a swelling crowd, a barefoot figure wrapped in an american flag hobbled in the cold night air. an occasional cat call range out in the dark and the threat of violence loomed heavily. the man at the head of the parade stumbled frequently as the march made its way up to the main street of collinsville towards city hall. the unfortunate leading this unsettling procession was robert pregger, a 30-year-old german immigrant and by some account a
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radical socialist. he had emigrated to the united states in 1905 at the age of 17. he bounced around the midwest for several years working as a baker. serving 14 months for theft in 1913. and eventually finding his way in 1915 to the st. louis area with a sizeable well established german-american population. he worked for a time in the coal mine at gillespie and then health to collinsville in the fall of 1914 where he took a job in lorenzo bruno's bakery. according to mrs. bruno, pregger was extremely intelligent and an outstanding but a certain peculiarity in his makeup made him particularly quarrelsome. despite his ability to apologize once his temper cooled he was fired. turning to the only work he knew
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pregger got a job at the night shift at the number 2 mine ownby a coal company in maryville four miles from collinsville. the leadership of the united mine workers of america local 1802 accepted him conditionally until his application for unwa membership could be reviewed. it was here that things began to go seriously wrong for pregger. looking to improve his lot, he sought to become a mine manager. he approached the mine manager and informing of his desire to advance, questioned him about a manager's responsibility. one of the areas he asked about was mine explosions and exactly how an explosion could cause the greatest damage. his suspicions were aroused and when rumors utterly unsubstantiated began circulating about a supply of blasting power vanishing from the mine thousands of mine workers including the local 1802
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president concluded that pregger was a german agent bent on sabotage. in the hyper charged winter and spring of 1918, the mere suspicion of harboring pro-german sentiments let alone actively working for germany was enough to invite the attention of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies. as well as a myriad of quasi legal vigilante organizations. since entering the war, the federal government had whipped the american public with a calculated program of propaganda issued by the committee on public information. i'm skipping ahead here a little bit here. i'm skipping the part which is a description of some of the attacks that took place on germans in the spring of 1918. that evening a group of miners left a collinsville bar shortly after 9:00 and walked to pregger's rooming house where they ordered him to leave town immediately. he agreed but then the crowd demanded that he come out into the street.
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all right, brothers, pregger said i'll go if you don't hurt me. one of the men promised not to harm him. once he was outside, pregger shoes and outer clothing was removed and he was wrapped in the stars and stripes and instructed to start singing and walking singing the star spangled banner when the crowd got near the center of town collinsville mayor was just leaving a liberty loan meeting at the opera house. he saw the approaching parade but made no attempt to intervene reckoning that the crowd was orderly and there was no disturbance. sego crossed the street and let symbols a medical office at which point he kept an eye on events. the crowd now numbered several00. a police officer patrolling the downtown area grew apprehensive and by the direction about which things were going so he waded into the crowd, rested the terrifying pregger away from his captors and shepherded him into city hall. in the meantime, the
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collinsville bars were ordered closed in hopes of cutting down on the likelihood of violence. at each watering hole the officer charged with making the rounds explaining that a german spy had been arrested and was being held at city hall. the peytons naturally made for downtown increasing the size of the throng. among the new recruits was a army veteran and a former miner who joined up with the small group. a saloon worker produced an american flag and the crowd fell behind it. watching the growing assembly the mayor could tell things were taking such a turn to become menacing. leaving his medical office he climbed the steps of city hall and tried to calm the crowd. he pleaded with them to disband telling them that pregger had been taken away and promising that he would be handed over to the federal authorities. but the refused to disperse. joseph regal who admitted to be drunk assumed the mantle of leader and pushed his way
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through the front he waved his discharge papers claiming them as proof of loyalty and demanded to make a search of the jail. the mayor agreed to admit regal alone but when the doors were opened the crowd surged forward and swarmed into the building. the police had removed pregger from his cell and hidden him in the basically of the building. it took regal and beaver some time but they eventually found him and marched him back out onto the streets where his terrible ordeal resumed. turning south on the st. louis road, the parade proceeded toward the outskirts of hollinsville with pregger being forced to kiss the flag and sing patriotic sounds and violence later erupted when someone punched pregger knocking him to the down. a couple men helped him to his feet and the march continued. by the time they reached the city limits and the crowd the thinned and the crowd turned to a safe distance with their
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jurisdiction ended when they reached the crest of the hill a mile outside of the town fewer than 50 men were left, they decided upon a code of tar and feathers but no supplies could be found. however, when somebody discovered a towing rope in one of the vehicles that had accompanied the march pregger's fate was sealed. the noose was fashioned and the rope was looped over a large branch of the hackberry. a noose was slipped over pregger's head and tightened around his neck. the remaining crowd members fired questions at him demanding to know the details of his alleged bomb plot including why he stole the explosives and who his accomplices were. exhausted from his tribulation pregger shook his head and fell silent. regal then pulled on the roop in an attempt to hoist pregger up but he lacked the strength. come on, fellows, we're all in this he said to the others. let's not have any slackers here.
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several others took hold of the rope including some boys as young as 12 years old and pregger was lifted off the ground. a lynch mop had forgotten to tie his hands and he grabbed his hands to prevent him from choking and pregger asked permission to compose a farewell note to his parents. someone furnished a pencil and paper and he was led to one of the automobiles. dear, parents, he wrote today april 14th 1918, i must die. please pray for me, my beloved parents. this is the last letter or testimony from me. your loving son and brother robert paul. pregger handed the letter over and then asked to pray. kneeling he begged forgiveness for his sins and declared himself innocent disloyalty. when he finished he walked calmly back to the tree. someone tied pregger's hand with a handkerchief and the noose was once again placed around his neck. the crowd harangued him with questions and telling him they would kill him if he didn't make a complete confession but
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pregger said nothing. well, if you won't come in with anything string him up. before they could, pregger said, all right, boys, go ahead and kill me. wrap me in the flag when you bury me. once more they raised his body off the ground. this time they were successful. less than two months later, 11 defendants, six of whom had apparently left the mob before the lynching were tried for pregger's murder. one reporter later called the trial, quote, a farcical patriotic orgy. the jury deliberated 45 minutes before acquitting all the defendants. so that's the picture. when you have a the legacy of world war i is twofold. it's the ascendance of the military industrial complex as eisenhower later referred to it. and the birth and emergence of
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the surveillance state. immediately after the war, the spotlight shifted from germans and german-americans to bolsheviks. the russian revolution had created seismic shock waves through the business community and governments throughout the west. and now leftists, anarchists, socialists and bolsheviks became the target. the red scare was essentially a campaign by government and big business in concert to squash, one, the radical movement in this country and, two, crush the labor movement. there were four strikes in --
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four major strikes in 1919 beginning with the seattle general strike early in the year. and later on, the boston police strike the steel strike and the cold strike they were all dealt with in the harshest possible manner by the government. the red scare was a campaign against ideas, not against criminal actions. and the b.i., the bureau of investigation, whose charter was to fight crime instead became an intelligence-gathering agency. this would lead to severe repercussions as the years would develop. the red scare culminated in the palmer raids, named a. palmer
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mitchell who was the attorney general at the time. thousands and thousands of labor leaders, leftists, anarchists were rounded up and held in many cases in communicado for long periods of time. i'd like to read you just a short description of one part of the palmer raids. agents broke into meeting hauls -- we're talking late 1919, early 1920. agents broke into meeting halls and private homes without search warrants. and forced detainees to stand against meeting hauls and search them all of which prompted the massachusetts judge george anderson to observe, quote, a mob is mob whether made up of government officials acting under instructions from the
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department of justice or of criminals loafers and the vicious classes. in many cities, the raids were, quote, disgraceful legal travesties in defiance of the law by officers of the law. countless arrestees were beat and held incommunicado. bails were established at $10,000, a gross violation of the eighth amendment. citizens caught in the net were handed over to local law enforcement departments for prosecution under criminal laws. in boston 800 prisoners were marched through the streets in chains and photographs of the procession appeared in newspapers as evidence of their violent and menacing nature. in hartford 97 men were held in solitary confinement for five minutes, quote, practically buried alive. the worst outrage took place in detroit were 800 aliens and citizens were held for six days in a windowless corridor on the
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fifth floor of the justice department building. they had the use of just one toilet and one sink with no begged and except for two biscuits and a cup of coffee twice a day, no food except for what their friends or relatives brought them. the long-time journalist frederick r. barkley who was sent by his newspaper the "detroit news" to investigate reported, quote, the heat was sickening and the stench was almost overpowering. the conditions were such that mayor cousins informed the city council that they were intolerable in a civilized society. barkley noted that the men were, quote, fairly well dressed for working men, not dirty-looking fellows as we have been led to believe bolsheviks looked like. the red scare institutionalized the bureau of investigation as the political tool of the government for spying on civilians. j. edgar hoover was instrumental
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in playing out and carrying the palmer raids. and the bureau emerged from the red scare as the official investigator of radical activities. in other words, a secret police force. in 1924, things had gone so far that the attorney general under calvin coolidge, arlen physic stone decided that it was time to rein in the bureau of investigation. and he issued new guidelines for reorganization and reprioritization of the bureau. basically, he said this agency has been functioning as a secret police force. it has got to stop and it will act like its charter says. fighting crime. there will be no more investigating of civilians on the basis of their ideas and beliefs, only on the basis of their actions and then only as those actions may be in
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violation of the law. for the next 12 years or so, the bureau basically abided by those rules. at the same time as those rules were issued, unfortunately, j. edgar hoover was made the director of the bureau. we'll follow his career as we go on. during the depression, the spotlight shifted to mexican-americans and mexican nationals. it started in texas. and it swept through the southwest and got taken up in los angeles. between half a million and a million next conditions and mexican-americans were either deported or, quote, voluntarily
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repatiated during the decade of the depression. many of these were people who had entered -- who had lived in this country for decades, having entered the country when there were no controls on the border. when they -- when it did not -- it did not break any law to cross the border and live here. probably because of the language barrier. many of them never became citizens but they were productive members of society. nevertheless, because of the economic hysteria, these people were rounded up and deported or voluntarily repatiated. this next photo is the los angeles rail road train station during the repatriation of --
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one of the repatriation days when people left the country. world war ii, and keep these deportations in mind because they -- this whole question returns twice more. world war ii period, in 1936, this is the -- the end of that 12-year period i talked about in which hoover and the b.i. basically stuck to business to see when you see pictures of hoover who was a bureaucrat, never a field agent at all posing with a tommy gun and, you know, the days of the arrest of ma barker and john dillinger and people like that -- bonnie and clyde. ..
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>> cysts everybody and everybody he deems worthy. >> december 1939 he sends out a memo to the field office to the agents in charge of the field offices, a start investigating anybody who could be a threat to national security in time of a national emergency to put their name on a list for custodial the attention. that goes back to the alien
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and sedition act. tens of thousands of people are investigated and then names are compiled on to what is called the studio detention index or the abc list. under the enemy control program 72 hours after the bombing of pearl harbor, december 7th harbor, december 7th, 1941 , within three days come with the fbi has 2,000 people in custody. german, japanese, and italian nationals. they say aliens but nowadays we think arsonist and i you know, what i mean. here is a little picture of what the roundups look like.
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those arrested in the-- and weeks following pearl harbor included community leaders, a buddhist priest, owners of businesses that cater to the taste and martial arts masters newspaper editors and publishers and ordinary workers and living and working since 1923 was taken from his home at 3m december 10. and no word of him for six weeks. and oahu who why eight arrested in the middle of his wife's funeral at the buddhist temple december 7th, after which his 15 year-old daughter mary, apparently is and penniless wound up living at the temple for the next
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eight months. the san jose sales man taken into custody on december 11th was not permitted even to take his overcoat or remove his house slippers. describing that period immediately following december 7 the a special assistant to the ien s rowe civil liberties took a backseat in those states. in the name of national defence come expediency became the order of the day. generally with the concentration of japanese americans relocation and internment it is generally forgotten that german and i taught yen and the answer also incurred during the war. from the crystal city texas internment camp with the
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alien and may control and the construction crew the five men on the left of our japanese. it is important to understand the enemy control program because it is the basis of the later four riyal it -- which evacuated relocated and ensured japanese-americans. in all in the course of the war over 8,000 japanese over 6,800 germans and over 20,043,000 i italian 80
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event -- aliens were injured. that the same time the united states conspired with more than 15 latin american governments to adopt, no other way to put it, they were kidnapped kidnapped, japanese, german, latin america and comment many citizens of the countries where they lived. they were brought to the country and interred in the same camps and with the prisoner exchange some of get the picture. they are taken from their homes in latin america and many had been born there. and sent to germany and japan would they have never seen them japanese-american
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internment is fairly well known by now. and it is important to understand because it is generally regarded as full-blown independent right after pearl harbor. this is not the case and it actually occurred in small increments with the months following pearl harbor until the evacuation order in march. of this time the government had been rounding up japanese german and italian aliens. the picture of the japanese internment based strictly on racism is a mistake certain erases them play a part but also there was a general
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suspicion of any alien at emigre community with the assumption being that no matter how long they live in the country they would necessarily have ties to the country of origin. so now we're up to the cold war. and the government's attempt to drive a wedge between communist and their fellow traveler compatriots. the beginning of this petraeus is to mccarthy actually he was a johnny-come-lately's. of the cold war hysteria will was running for least three years before mccarthy made his mark in a starter was driven federal employee loyalty program which gave
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the head of every government agency the authority to fire any employee who was considered suspicious for whatever reason the real target i believe, the cold war red scare was not communists they were pitiful but liberals they had historically traditionally defended communist that was the orioles' target it work to well because when debating stardom liberals ran for cover they had to
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make a choice between the american committee and the fbi. it was so egregious with the behavior and all that was public that the liberal sided with the fbi. a terrible mistake because basically it doesn't allow the fbi to frame the debate so the question became who should investigate communist? not whether if there was any reason not whether it was an american to do that. with eighth and america can activities committee it took its show on the road to communities around the world the committee's purpose to
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take the show was spelled out buy mr. walter to tared until 1963 by this means active communist will be expose before their neighbors and fellow workers and i have every confidence i have every confidence americans will do the rest of the job this what happened in flint michigan. although review workers who were subpoenaed to appear before the committee were dragged from the factories to be beaten by mobs and some families were evicted and forced into hiding and the office of a lawyer who had represented the subpoenaed workers was smeared with red paint. a member an outspoken supporter was delighted. this is the best kind negative free at -- reaction
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and dividing communist and liberals open the door for mccarthy. we also need to remember that during the red scare for the lavender scare, the 5,000 homosexuals lost their jobs in the federal government because they were supposedly a security risk. in 1954 reseat day reprieve of the deportation. under eisenhower operation wetback has managed to new to court justice six months the same half a million people that were deported during the depression until there was such an outcry of both sides of the border that the program was suspended. during the latter part of the cold war years come as the fbi undertook the most massive series of
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surveillance programs in their history there was a massive expansion during the cold war to the point* where 195820% of americans who were investigated the co until operation that counterintelligence program with the integration and operation to take the knowledge and soon enough president was monitoring all forms of political dissent forsaking the law-enforcement mission to focus on intelligence gathering and once again having become the secret police force. by the end of the sixties
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the fbi files on more than 430,000 law-abiding individuals and organizations. one of the most vicious and malicious of the programs was so one undertaken against march and research king, jr. in went on for years and involved the most blackguard type of infiltration and illegal surveillance 1975 hoover died 1972. there were hearings 70 remember them from senator frank church was in charge. if there were committee hearings looking good for
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six months with 50,000 pages of records and once again were reining in the fbi. edward the fayed attorney-general guidelines were very much similar to the other guidelines but supposedly put the fbi out of the business of surveillance and intelligence gathering. unfortunately we were just guidelineguideline s until then 11 until attorney general ashcroft was stopping as altogether now we're back in the same boat. the chilling effects on
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eight arab and muslim community with the third time around on illegal immigrants and you have to think there could be a better way this is the third time it is happening and just with this year practical level it does not seem to work. so just to conclude the question is why does this matter? it matters because the scapegoating of any minority curtailing the civil liberties of any minority is the first set to curtailing the civil liberties of all. and necessarily brings with it surveillance. because the lawyers have to keep an eye on them then
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there is somebody else and the rhetoric from world war i is always the same. not with us you are against us then you must be for them. we have to stay vigilant when the scapegoating starts that i will leave you before answer questions of the value with the words of the pastor of luther not to germany keep in mind plays that to the national socialist nazis did not overthrow in a government but were elected. hitler did not overthrow anybody, he was appointed. the captain lived through in nazi germany and was put in a camp himself eventually and said first they came for
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the train unionists and i was not the union is so i did not speak of then they came for the communist and i was not a red so why did not speak up. in a cave for the jews and i was not jewish so why did not speak up. then they came for me and there was nobody left to speak up. [applause] i will try to answer questions as well as i can. here is a microphone. >> what herds in terms of this kind of activity it is economic on a couple of notes.
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one is the hundreds of billions of dollars going into nsa activity that is very poor the screened. we are also becoming isolated in terms of people wanting to come to the united states even as visitors. we are making it difficult for people to come for a couple of hundred thousand dollars of collegiate education and are unable to get green cards to stay here to work so there have been numerous studies that fare the best economic way.
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we probably overreacted we reacted 2911 you are here with your book to our i would just say yes to everything. >> i did not hear a question. >> there was no question. >> my question is from a comment related to the first comment. to my knowledge going on today nearly $1 billion to spend every year on surveillance. 72 different locations around the country. secret buildings nobody knows what is there may be four stories above ground
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but 10 below, all whole city. for surveillance for the taliban or whoever and every year at least two dozen more agencies are involved with no supervision and are kept secret. i know there is a civil rights issue as you mentioned but using the internet camp in the title of the book hysteria is that related to the expenditure and secrecy? second, what is the anecdote to this? >> the first part, yes. if you want to know more about that issue there is a book called top-secret usa by two "washington post" reporters. i read the original reports
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in "the washington post" which indicate that there is so much being spent so much to produce it is impossible to keep up with that all and much of that is duplication of efforts. the antidote, i wish i knew the answer to that. one example i can give is just the other day, the justice department said they would reduce 300,000 deportation cases and on the concentrates on people with criminal records. that is a policy that makes sense to me. i think it is a matter of honing in better, i heard
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this referred to as the terror industrial complex. that there is so much money being made to that it is not likely to end soon. >> i don't understand and hopefully you could shed some light on why or how americans continue to be so pleased the eight -- play in the interim or turn the cheek to the age-old policy of divide and conquer and especially when you look at all of the money going into the pentagon and the expense or the lack of it going into the education system like the creation of ignorance it does not make sense and economically how does that make sense?
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>> one thing we should be clear is not just the united states. says an american i am most concerned with what happens here in as americans we have been taught we should hold ourselves to a higher standard. so one part of human nature to seek the scapegoat i wish i had a better answer on how to keep this from happening. i have just drawn the conclusion is now it is up to everybody to work on it.
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>> you are more the mother to ask any further questions after this one. >> as a historian, eisenhower reputation was that he was an alarmist and paying attention to things. fly didn't he go after j. edgar at that time when he was foldable? >> i don't know. he had something on everybody. [laughter] he had everybody investigated and that is how he remained in power close to half a century. >> why didn't hoover go after him? >> i could just guess of eisenhower's mistress at the time those were forebode an. >> why didn't he go after the mafia?
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[inaudible] [laughter] >> thank you so much. [applause] >> and want to start talking about why i wrote the book and 11 to accomplish with this book. i wrote it because our party is certainly at a crossroads and there is a division in going forward i truly believe we have to unite as a matter of fact one of my fox interviews today invitation for karl rove and guide to kiss and make up we can go for a united party, but i do talk about the cronyism of the republican party in delaware which those leaders have been ousted. but the reason i bring that
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up is not to perpetuate or to fan the flames but to say that two if that crony crowd stood embrace the principles that the grass roots crowd that the party but is founded on we will be a powerhouse if we can unite. i detail those things like campaign -- campaign has endured it when i went there as a candidate to ellis stray a point* of what happens when we divide instead of the night. everybody knows. it is no secret the 2010 election of the republican party was divided. but there were some examples to look at and i draw the contrast between kentucky and my race wary in kentucky
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we have the senator mitch mcconnell really campaigning against rand paul the worst thing to happen to politics until he won the primary the day after the won the primary mitch mcconnell and rand paul were arm and arm saying that is the past we have to move forward to make sure this guy crosses the finish line and unfortunately that did not have been in delaware but it has to happen in order us vermette us to win 2012 that is the message i hope people can take away by reading the book i try to tell the story of how i got involved in politics. and what made me embrace the principles why i chose to become a republican because some political of pfizer's have said that was a little too honest a probably should
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