stuff. a don't give you lots of excuses for why was doing it but i think it was because they didn't understand how it works. sewed the march of technology is undermining the governments efforts to keep secrets. you might say, well this balances out but not really, because the government is still acting that it can keep secrets it is really undermining his own efforts to keep it safe because it done than -- doesn't understand so much is leaking out including into the hands of people who shouldn't have it. >> i came in on the tail end of your conversations have you covered this in the beginning, please let me know. >> where were you? >> you don't really want to know. it's a secret. [laughter] [applause] you make a very compelling case for government waste and ineptitude, and can you imagine,

i realized the government bureaucracy is self-perpetuating but could you imagine today when there could be a national conversation on this issue going around to people? you are not sensing a critical mass of people in the intelligence community for example who may be against the way the policy is working but can you imagine the day when this could become a mainstream political issue where we actually look at the policy and say is there a more effective and efficient means to a competent safety of our nation? >> well, i'm monogamous. yes, i can. that is one reason i wrote the book. you just turn your back and let it keep going like this? i think the budget crisis is going to be one of those moments where potentially we are going to have that conversation. i think the conversation though does have to start with the detail of the threat, because when the threat is laid out there, i think the only time when people can have a sense of what is right, what is the right

way to respond to it or how big is it and how should we respond to it and is it going to be safe to cut back in certain areas? but i also think in conversation like that will inevitably point back to ourselves and to say, are we going to hold the governments to zero tolerance? are they going to be responsible for every nut ball who has some explosives? timothy j. types, people who throughout our history have done crazy things, terrible things. are we going to hold them responsible for every single individual? we don't know that -- don't do that for drugs. we have passed laws for all sorts of things but for some reason on terrorism, you know we aren't as sophisticated yet. and i think you know, including the media. we make a big deal out of everything, and i think an honest conversation has to include our own understanding of

what the government can do and can't do. so i would say writing this book was the first -- to try to get that out there in the budget crisis would push that along as well. thank you. >> if you have more questions or you want to continue the conversation with dana, she is going to be in the tent signing books. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> that was a reair of our live coverage of the 2011 texas book festival in austin. we'll be live from austin again tomorrow, and for more information you can visit our web site, booktv.org.

>> next, political commentator david horowitz reflects on several moments in his life and presents his philosophical thinking on life and mortality. it's a little over an hour. >> on behalf of the philadelphia freedom center, it's my pleasurn to welcome you to the unionleas league club of philadelphia.n and to introduce david horowitz. i'd like to thank my associate britney for attending today'so event. [applause] thank you. thank you, britney. and and i'd like to, also, offer my thanks to c-span for being here today to cover this event for its national audience. [applause] i remind you that immediatelyse] following today's program davidm willed be available to sign new copies of his book, "a point inb time," at the signing table in the rear of the room. my name is craig snyder, i'm the executive director of philadelphia's freedom center. it's a nonfederal government

organization committed to the ideals of individual andh economic liberty, limited government and defense of free societies which are currently under attack by enemy bees, both religious and secular, at homer and abroad. and abroad. david horowitz was born into a family of dedicated communists whose members of the communist party. as a rigid labor baby growing up in new york, david was in dhaka made it into the intellectual world of collectivism and as a young man he became intoxicated with the hopeful idea that all of humanity can be saved from its historical misfortune's if they were only to abandon the old world institutions and to adopt the marxist ideals of the social salvation. marxist credit for me to his ability each to his own hamid begin the mantra of a generation

of ultra bolshevik bolsheviks committed to the salvation of humanity david was a foot soldier in the war of ids and as his best-selling novels radicals ideals unexplained wasn't until the early 50's when the truth of stalin's genocidal atrocities were confirmed that david broke ranks with the communism of his parents and became a founding member of the new left, a kinder and gentler form of the social progress of the sum that was the idea of it any way. david along with his writing and business partner peter collier published reports, the secretive the new left and he became a prominent leader of the entire war anti-establishment left. as the radicals on his autobiography details the series of events culminating in a murder of his friend betty van patter by the black panthers. this was a seminal moment that led to david's in the middle of the left and the embrace of conservatism for which she

earned the everlasting enmity of his former comrades in arms. david is a writer, a prolific writer, and he is a thinker, deep thinker. david tells the truth, the whole truth coming and he is honest, brutally honest. a good writer, and david is a good writer, writes the truth, not little truths, but big truth. with a capital to write the truth one has to dig deep into his or her personal experience. that is not easy to read david has made life changing reversals. his only loyalty to find and speak the truth, truth with a capital t. in his new book a point in time, david shares his insight into man, god in a way that only he can. it is an honor and privilege to present you a man of high moral

clarity, deep in sight and a clear voice and a world threatened by political correctness and cultural relativism. the world needs more men like david horowitz. i respect him, admired him, and i am proud to be his friend. ladies and gentlemen, david horowitz. [applause] >> thank you branigin brahimi for putting together this event and the freedom center in philadelphia, my home away from home. karl marx wrote in four volumes which he never finished and was virtually unreadable. when he was asked why he wrote such a long book she said because i didn't have time to write a short one. this book i have written is quite short but it took me three

years to write and a lifetime to gain the understanding that i tried to communicate in these pages. the book itself began when i picked up a copy of the meditation of marcus which is a book i remembered from my father's bookshelf, which he had just kept from college was not a book as i will explain shortly but he would have wanted to read as an adult or would have liked or learned from. he was the 19th emperor of rome. he was the emperor in the film gladiator, and he was by all accounts a good man and was also a philosopher, not a formal one. he took notes to himself and his notes were found in the middle

ages by monks who saw in many prefiguring of their own faith and gave the title that we know them by the meditations of marcus he was a stoic and i'm hyper realistic view of life and therefore somewhat grim depended on the perspective. his philosophy could be summed up in these words of his be not trouble for all things are according to nature and soon you will be no one and know where. so this was a view of life unredeemed by either a romantic vision or religious want. my father was a progressive communist, but all progressives share this vision.

he would not -- he thought he could change the world or he was participating in a movement to change the world whereas marcus did not believe in progress or history for that matter. he said those who have seen present things have seen all. both everything from all eternity to everything that will be to the end of time. that is things don't change because we are basically creatures just like we are animals and our unhappiness is caused by our consciousness of the fact that one day we will be no one and nowhere. animals just live in the present, but if you think about the future and think about the past, it can cause you a lot of

problems. progressives are motivated by the designer to escape this world. the world when they look at the world its too and just to use their phrase, and of course it is. i mean, bad people or reworded, good people by young, innocent people are tormented and suffered. so people like my father escape instead of trying to deal with this reality for one reason or another they are unable to. they want to skate by creating a new world. that's what progressivism is about. as i was brought up in this tradition and of course you never lose the memory of the way

the use of things when you were younger. there was a passage that just brought me up and it's part of his advice about a deal stoicism is basically don't sweat the small stuff but don't sweat the big stuff either. so, in this passage he says when you rise in the morning to say to yourself i shall meet today intrusive, ungrateful, arrogant, deceitful, in the sand and charitable. but don't bother yourself about it. this is the advice. is it possible that they were not being shameless people in the world? it's not possible. therefore, do not require what is impossible. that's the story to view and that's the complete antithesis of everything that i was brought along but i was brought up if

you meet untenable and grateful envious people change them. i was always proselytizing when i was young. you have an encampment in your cities as they have and will st. down with of agreed. anybody with a view of the world would say let's see, greed, it's been part of human nature for five, 10,000 years as well as their of the human beings. good luck to you. los dewitt view has a problem with it, and in the meditations because you have to ask yourself well, if we are soon going to be no one and know where and everything that we do is the race and therefore nothing has any meaning of and what is the point?

the only real decision you have is how to get out of this world as quickly as possible. looking at himself we felt he was a coward so again and again to answer the question comes up with to my mind is a jury on satisfying answer he just changes the question and says if i look at the world it's beautiful. there must be a designer. therefore there are some dogs who take care of us. there are no gods and we're living in meaningless existence. i am an agnostic which means i just don't know but i can live with that uncertainty.

not everybody -- i mean, it is just my state of being. but people -- with this teaches us is even if marcus had to have a faith people needed faced most people cannot live with the idea that life is meaningless, that everything that we do ads of to nothing. and that brings me to the second author which i looked at in this book which is an author who would not appear on my father's shelf which is the great russian novelist and my father's eyes and the office of progressives who was a the altar of reactionary stood in the way of this beautiful future that they thought of themselves as creating and that is when i was when i left this faith because

he began as a radical and in fact was joined a group of who reticles in st. petersburg and they were arrested for plotting to kill whether they actually were or not we don't know, and they were convicted and then they were kept in a jail for four months and they were marched out in the early morning to a parade ground where there were three execution stakes and they were red their sentence which was deaf and started to put the blindfolds on and they were going to be executed in groups of three which is why they were on the cover of my but there were three execution states, and just before the ordered the fire began somebody rode up and gave them a reprieve and it had been a plan of them

to punish, as you know he was elected and whether this trigger his epilepsy we don't know. it wasn't a happy experience. he was sent to siberia and there he had a change of heart and mind, and i don't think anybody has written as eloquently as he has on the budget proletarianism , and what it means on revolution and what it means. he believed that human beings cannot live without a higher idea. and he believed that that idea was mortality. but his main perception is because people do not believe in god does not believe they do not believe in nothing. and in fact, his perception was that if they did not believe in god they will believe in

themselves as god and this is what your body out there on the occupied demonstrations of course they are very young so you've got to forgive certain stability of young people or illusion and arrogance. when i was young i was stupid and arrogant and was always preaching the way they are in everybody's face. but if you think of with the radical mission is what is it? it is to change the world, create a new world. that's what got does. human beings -- a lot of my book is about this, can't create the new world because we are the cause of the problem. that is a simple idea.

in proceeding radicals, progressives as people trying to create a new religion, a new face this is not an original idea because that is the way the radicals like marks salles themselves, in fact the account who was the father of the french socialism actually said that socialism is a religion, the religion of humanity and the hero is prometheus who stole fire from the gods so they saw themselves as acting as dogs and in fact marxist's whole critique of religion is to project on to god their own power, and therefore they alienate their power, they distance themselves for their own power, so by rejecting god they take their power and then they can act like

god. that is basically the marxists idea. of course human beings don't project on to god their powers. the ones that they don't have. he had this perception that it was not just atheistic radicals. it's not an accident that the modern radical movements all grew up around the time of darwin, and just before darwin that is when will they were saying religion is challenged, religious beliefs were challenged. it is a secular religion. people suffer and we are going to redeem them and it's not like we're going to redeem suffering of individual, we are going to redeem the whole world. he saw this actually had already

developed in his view in the roman catholicism. why is that? because the fall was as some had made the attack with the roman empire. they created a paramount is very famous pebble called the grand inquisitor, just in pages and the great novel of the brothers, and in this terrible, christ has been of course it takes place in the 16th centuries of christ has been absent for 1500 years or so to read the second coming. he hasn't come and he has left people in the uncertainty. and this is the great source of human suffering that we don't really know, we don't know who we are or why we are here, we don't know where we are going to lead and it is an intolerable state for people.

and the grand inquisitor, christ comes back to earth. he never says anything in the parable, but of the inquisition of arrests and immediately and the grand inquisitor, this chapter is his indictment of got from the time of creation and the indictment is that your absent. you have less people with a decision as to whether to be the four not to believe, and that is intolerable to them. they can't handle it, so you are the cause of human suffering. and so, we have stepped in as the church, and this is -- he projected into this not only the roman catholicism but socialism on to itself. we are going to take care of you. we will bring people happiness by giving them who led a band of 40. we will tell you what to believe, and if you submit to us, you will be happy.

that is the source of human happiness. and of course christ was tempted by in the gospel he was tempted by satan who told them to for those of down off a cliff cast himself off a cliff and the rescue himself because he's god and that would make people believe. it's a reason of the cross, god could manifest itself it has been hidden from human beings. i will come to the reason why in the second, but christ didn't do this and therefore he condemned and jews could ask the same question we are the chosen people. why the holocaust and the target of the second half because of

the world. we don't have an answer and got the -- and god doesn't give us an answer. this is the interesting perception. that is what makes us human? what makes us human is the ability to choose freedom to make a choice of whether to believe in god or not or whether to do good or whether they do the right thing. insofar as we are human, we have to have this freedom otherwise what would they become is the

metaphor as an ant hill everybody does the queen dance whether it is the chief for the rabbi or whatever we will submit and we will be happy because people will tell us what to do. so it is freedom that makes us human but it is also our freedom that makes the world out there, society, such a bad place. if people didn't have a choice and they had to be good because god was telling you to be good you didn't have any question as to what the right path was we wouldn't have the war we wouldn't that the left progressives complain about, the radical missionaries complained

about to read this all comes from choice. the subtitle of my book is redemption in this life or the next. redemption in the next life is something that nobody can know that there is. if you are religious and believe in the vicinity, you probably also will have the faith that it will all be sorted out. it will be made clear to us why innocent suffer. he has this amazing chapter about the children suffering. why do children suffer. how can they just and compassionate god sanction the suffering of little children? and it's horrible. we have the same stories in the world today.

people who think that mankind is morally improving just have to look at the abuse of children which is global billions of children in slavery as we speak there is a carpet obama put in the white house and on the carpet is inscribed the words the moral arc of the universe is bent towards justice. does anybody think that there is a century with more in a sense murdered and tortured them of the 20th century? who can think that the morrill art of the universe is bent towards justice? what progressives,

revolutionaries, radicals come all of these visions, socialists, communists, social justice, crusaders believe is that the problem is society. society and divides people, society elevates summit keeps others down. society persuades us tobacco into the unnecessary war. society is the problem. a society makes criminals. but society doesn't do this, there is no society. society is us. society is a reflection of who we are. everybody has the capacity for selfishness, aggression, doing things that are on just we think

moral choices of the time and sometimes we make choices that are immoral. the better among fewer of those traces, and what we consider probably misdemeanors. maybe there are things that work among us but they are certainly rare. so you're the problem. but if we are the problem, then we can't fix the problem, can we? putting people in power does what? it takes the same type of person that is causing the problem and gives them a lot of power of the rest of us. and that's why all, you know, you'd think by the way that some of these young people will come after they anointed the messiah, obama put them in the white house and things turn out badly that we understand these are not

fixable in the way that they think that they are. if you believe the problem lies outside of us, then you can believe that we can solve the problem and that is what i mean by redemption in this life. you create a meaning as the new world how meaningful is that that is a meeting for a life. which you can do that if you see the problem is outside of you and not implicated in the problem of the corruption is in our problem and the impossibility of redemption is true divinity and in the next life. you have to see the corruption as being in the us then you have

a religious view, and i think that this is a view that has relatively benign because it doesn't empower people to think that they are brought. however, seeing that corruption has within us is we are right back to the idea what makes us human is our freedom to do wrong as well as light and of course it is right in the chapters of genesis, the opening of genesis. adam and eve it was better than socialism. if you didn't buy, you didn't have to work, there was no pain. i mean, come on. this is it, everybody. but no. nay one thing that our parents should not do which is to each of the tree, the knowledge of good and evil, and of course to no evil you have to participate

in it. and it's there to freedom god gave in genesis, god gave adam and eve the freedom to choose right and wrong and they chose wrong, and so they were expelled from paradise. this is to be the most insightful parable of where we are in the experiences that we have all have for our lifetimes. that is human beings are not fit to live in a paradise because they want the choice of us make that choice is, some bigger, some less. so we were all implicated and of course dhaka puts an angel in the flaming sword at the gates of even to keep us from returning to get it could only return by the devine agency

would progressives want to do, with socialists want to do and what communists want to do and actually just to amplify this in one way with the islamists, the islamic muslim jihads although they believe in a given the they think they can make this will wholley while the infidels and by instituting got's wall because they believe that they've got in the seventh century is gods law and so they're just as dangerous as radicals and of course the radicals are now in a pass of alliance with the islamic jihadists running interference with their doing with the communists when the communist empire was going strong and that is of course because they see us and the state of israel has

agreed and of little state and preventing their paradise from being achieved and what struck me in the lifetime of unfortunately paying attention to the politics. if i had to choose a life i think that if i -- if we don't choose our parents, we don't choose our lives it's been an interesting life, but i can see a lot of other things i would rather have been doing them to engage in politics. it's funny because i once interviewed a journalistic work i interviewed a prosecutor who started out as a defense attorney i said why did you switch from being a defense attorney? because i didn't want to hang out with criminals.

but who the thing that i've learned from the one thing that i've learned is how we don't learn from our experience collectively. individuals learned, some individuals. they pay attention. but mankind doesn't learn. the collective doesn't learn. and this was brought home to me because i had to leave -- read. he had in a magazine called a diary of a writer, and in the magazine, he had articles which were autobiographical. he covered a lot of court cases and if you read them you will be impressed with how similar they

are to the same kind of discussions going on today. that is the jury's finding all kind of excuses for criminals, bad parenting for them or that circumstances but would justify the worst crimes to the table but it buys these things. but anyway, here's a passage that struck me. he had been discovered by a holder a critic when he was a young man. he was a radical who brought him into this radical circle. do we know he screeched on evening sometimes he was very excited he would screech as he turned to me do you know that minn's sings cannot be counted against him? when society has hated if is set up in such a mean fashion economic factors alone lead him to do wrong and it is an absurd and cruel to demand from a man

something in the very laws of nature make it impossible for causes people. he says do you know that centuries will pass and mankind will proclaim the mouth but only hungry men. feed them first then ask virtue of them. that is what they will write on the banner babies against you and your temple will be destroyed. view them first and then comes the virtue. if you've ever seen the mother courage we are told it is a wretched individual, but as an

individual, but from a communist he wrote in mother courage first comes feeding then comes morality. so people are not responsible for what they do. a society becomes responsible. and if that is the case, then society will make people good and that's that utilitarian, the totalitarian fantasy. what he also said is because of the choice makes us suffered, uncertainty makes us suffer the first thing people will do when they're given freedom is seek an object to worship. seeking cause to worship, seek a leader to worship which is the

first thing you want to know when you look at the world today. stalin, i shouldn't say all progressives, 90% of the progressives supported the soviet union even those who became a little after stalin died understand that he committed crimes, became anticommunist which is a way of supporting the enterprises that produce stalin. stalin killed virtually a member of every single family in the soviet union. that's how many people he killed. but when he died, millions of people flocked to his funeral procession. so many people that if thousands of people were trampled to death by them worshiping stalin, and of course they create a

mausoleum where people would line up for ten hours just to view his corpse. then they took a poll in the late 50's, stalin died in 53. in the poll of three greatest russians voted by the russian people who have lived through this work item, peter the great and joseph stalin, and this shows the persistence of this and the demonstrators out they're going for the katulis on without the foggiest idea what they're going to replace it with having thought through the problem how do you get people to work, how do you give them incentives, never having given a

second thought to that. .. >> there's one other dimension to this, which is this. if you believe that you can create the kingdom of heaven on earth which is what every fantasy of social justice is about, it's about a world where there's no suffering, where there's no inequality, where there's no racism, sexism, homophobia, no conflict, basically. if you think you can create nol. poverty, if you think that war, if you think you can create such a world, what crime will you no commit to achieve it? what lie would you not tell?e or if you don't have the stomach for committing a crime, what crimepo wouldrt you not support?

the american left, you know, in it majority you're supporting in one way or another hamas which is an organization which is dedicated to killing the jews which says so in its own charter. own charter. how can progressive people, people who say they are for social justice, be supporters of hamas? they can because they have this vision of a redeemed future and who is standing in the way of it? it is america and the jewish. and how reminiscent is that of say the 1930s? so, mark is a really is was right about the illusion of progress and of course it was a various -- very classical view. when the roman general concord

kosygin set fire to the great city of carr said, he wept because he saw the future of rome. anyway, in this book, a lot of this book is about my animals because i think you can learn from your animals what life is about. atheism is a form of faith. i think it is a very destructive faith in the hands of radical as. there is only faith. there is faith or just in awe at the mystery of it. i just read a book by frances collins called the language of god. he is the head of the genome project and the scientist that started as an atheist and now he is a person of faith. but in summarizing our scientific knowledge today, the fact is that scientists know that the universe began with a

big bang, but what set off the bang? they don't know. they haven't got the foggiest idea as to how the universe was created. when you come to the next great question, okay there was a big bang and there's all this matter or whatever it is out there. how do you create life out of that? they haven't the foggiest idea. we see through a glass -- as the gospel says. maybe we will see him face-to-face, but we don't know. if you accept that, you will get a kind of stoic view of the world. and you certainly understand that it is very difficult to make things better than they are

across the board. it is not so difficult to make things worse, which we see repeated over and over again. if there is a redemption that we can accomplish, it is like one person at a time. and in order to help another person or heal another person, you have to have that person's willing cooperation. human beings cannot be manipulated like an and the vision of socialism, the vision of an earthly revolution is a vision of contempt for human beings and their ability and their desire to make choices. so when the socialists come to power, they faced people probably like certainly the people in this room who will

resist them and they need -- we need to force them to be good or just or socialist. that is the danger that we face in the face of from islam. we face it from the left. we face it from people who are called liberals in this country, who want to make us good and are continually passing laws to do so. anyway, that is what my little book is about. thank you for listening. [applause] >> we are going to pass the mic around for those of you that would like to have any questions answered. for anyone that needs to leave early, it's about 1:20 almost now but there will be a book signing immediately following this short question and answer period.

>> hello david. crist at all. your kind enough to be on the show this morning. >> please plug your show. >> i appreciated. >> you were good enough to join me this morning i will start by asking what i asked you on the show. i am fascinated with extreme environmentalism that seems to be certainly a very close cousin to some of the things you are talking about, anarchists, socialists and things of that nature. can you talk about that? >> sure. i actually once wrote an article for the "national review" called red to green. it is a radical environmentalism is a radicals will wet dream. one of the problems that the socialists had was how are we going to get a revolution and the answer was the

working-class, and of course by the 60s, i mean the hard hats, the construction workers were beating up leftist demonstrators but all over the world the working-class and never acted the way marks said they would as a revolutionary agent. and having conservative workers, they were called reagan democrats, just blows apart the whole vision. how wonderful to have people at that you are defending not be workers but trees. [laughter] they can't say hey wait a minute i don't need this kind of help. the other aspect of environmentalism that is so attractive to radicals is that it is apocalyptic. radicalism is always about an apocalyptic -- of public vision.

you are either saved or you are. and i use this in my political speeches but but liberals are like hellfire preachers when you think of it. i mean, if you don't agree with them, then you are a racist or a sexist or a. conservatives reply to that by calling them liberals. [laughter] so the apocalypse, rosa luxemburg famously said the choice is socialism or barbarism. the third is communism or fascism. it is always this apocalypse because if you are facing and apocalypse, you give people a lot of power, so there is no

and. you want the government to do this to save the planet. how can you say noted that? you know, so it is just the perfect cause and a lot of the communist radicals went into the environment. which doesn't mean that every environmental issue is a revolutionary issue. i mean there are plenty of ways to regard the environment to treated better than we have. we have got cleaner air now and that is good. short of just surrendering all of our freedom to these plans. i mean the cap-and-trade bill, they are going to regulate your energy use in your house. the government is going to tell you how many times you can flip on the lights are not. you just get an hour space of choice. >> david i will never forget that back and forth you had with

that jewish hater islamist at the university and my kids are way about college. i feel that is something i personally want to do to help better jewish perception on campus. is there anything you can recommend to me that i can do with my time and effort? >> well, for those of you who aren't familiar with this, there is a youtube video of a talk i gave at the university of california san diego, and when i finished a young woman wearing a headscarf who identified herself later as a member of the muslim students association, which is an arm of the muslim brotherhood, although that perception is still, hasn't reached enough people, but it is an arm of the muslim brotherhood. it is the sponsor of jewish hating events on college campuses with the collusion of

campus left and the administration. and i asked her, forget that exact question she asked that i asked her if she would condemn hamas as a terrorist organization and she said, do you want to crucify me, which took me about. although i have been through this kind of encounter many times. i said, what you mean by that? she said well if i don't condemn hamas then i would be arrested by homeland security so in other words in her mind we live in a fascist state and the people who support, supporters of hamas instead of being invited to the white house as they often are, will be put in jail. so i said okay, well i will put it to you this way. i am jewish and the head of hezbollah has said that he wants us all together in israel so he doesn't have to hunt this down. she leaned into the microphone

and said -- that should be a revelation to people. while i was here in philadelphia i met with some jewish students at u. penn who do not begin to understand this about the muslim students association or about the threat that the jewish face. there was no more embattled group on college campuses than the jewish students who are harassed, particularly if they are israelis. there are organizations that stand with us that could put out a positive image. israel is the only tolerant, decent society in the middle east. there's no question about it, and of course you never get to that question because they throw this huge lie in your face that israel stole the land from the

arabs. anybody who doesn't know this, the land on which israel was created the longest to the turks for 400 years. before israel was created. also, 80% of the so-called palestine mandate, ella stein was never a nationality, never a country. does a geographical region. it's like new england. that is what palestine means. it's a roman name that the romans gave to this area. anyway, this is the lie.israel stole the land. there is no land that israel stole. oh, what i was going to say is that the indians claim to america is stronger than the arabs are palestinian claim to israel. so be mindful of that, americans. because the left never stops

unless it runs into a stonewall. that is the reality of the left. >> dan with us is such an organization. our center, the freedom center, is carrying on an education campaign on college campuses to educate the facts about the middle east. we have a one-party press on our universities. you cannot believe the censorship of editors on simple statements of fact. you cannot associate a negative fact with an air of or a palestinian, or at least i can't, and get an ad space in the paper. i actually succeeded in six or seven papers but the number of rejections that i get and you know they start out with reasons and then when i refute the reasons they just say, well we

are not we are not going to run the ad. anyway. and that is because of the left is very good. get shut down discussion of commonism by yelling mccarthyism all the time. it shuts down discussions of palestinian genocidal intentions. you know i pointed out. israel is not responsible for the palestinians suffering. the palestinians are in the arabs are. now, it is just a reality. [applause] this is what i said on college campuses. i said this at ucla for example. i said forget who is responsible for a second. hold off who is responsible for the suffering. people have suffered for thousands of years, but never in the history of the world has a people strapped bombs onto its

own children, told them to blow up other children and if they are lucky enough to be male, they are going to go to heaven and get 72 virgins. this is a sick, sick culture. so for that i was cold and islamaphobes. i didn't use the word islam but an official resolution at ucla. sponsored, voted, not a single vote in opposition on the student council of an anti-islamaphobia resolution. which says that david horwitz said that islam is a sick, sick culture in his speech on this campus. i have published the transcript of the speech. it is an absolute lie and there but this campaign is a global campaign that was started by the muslim brotherhood, that is now

sponsored by the center for american progress which is the brain trust of the democratic hardy. this is how far this has gone. they put out 130 page report on islamaphobia. i am and islamaphobes for that kind of statement. which is just a naked attempt to suppress free speech by declaring it -- and america is a wonderfully tolerant society so he called somebody a racist, unless they happen to be al sharpton, that puts them out of the respectable discussion. if you call them and islamaphobes, that will do it. this is a movement. it's gone very far in the u.n.. it's a movement in our country and has the support of the heart of the liberal establishment to shut down free speech of ci