loved ones were waiting for someone to show up. i don't think i exercised any fantastic skills to get them to talk. i think they were waiting for years for someone to show up. and talk. and the rest of it was just on record because the trial had already concluded and all the material was there and there was already concluded and all the material was there and there was an archive that i simply went to. they were all fortunately catalog. ..

you know, the western european country and the general attitude of this type of thing taking place on their own soil. so i can imagine that there is german business interests involved that are probably very strong, but for something like this that is that dramatic, that sounds to be something unexpected. i'm not an expert on it. but just from common knowledge. >> well, you're right. one would think based on what one knows about germany, but europe, about just the standard, the practice that this should have been unusual, this should have been treated as completely unacceptable. crimes like this, which have happened then austria, france, sweden, switzerland, italy, greece, the united states.

[inaudible] >> i'm sorry. >> argentina later on. they were happening, and oftentimes what would happen was that either they were -- if the perpetrators were arrested, and sometimes they would not be arrested, either there were really good and got away or sometimes because of precisely business interests that he referred to the authorities would be along slower than usual in apprehending them, and they would slip away. there were a couple of cases where they slept away, and in the case of another assassination in 1989 in vienna austria one of the perpetrators was apprehended, and two weeks later it was put back on a plane

and deported to to run. the authorities cited national interest and said because of our national interest we will not prosecute them. and it is because of that the more crimes are happening. in my view eventually even though from 1980 when the first case is heard until 1997 when the verdict from this case is issued there is a 17 year lapse. there is a in a burgeoning or a gathering of memento of these assassinations precisely because they seem to be able to get away with it because of the trade interest. and also because given that the united states no longer had an embassy in tehran because of a crisis of 1979 and because the

united states was no longer present had a political or any other interest, it had become sort of a beacon of hope, tehran, or a run in general as is a place for europe to slip into an for this balance of power, finally between europe and the united states, to happen. with in the middle east. so there were diplomatic interests as well as trade and business interests. when this happened trade relations are at a peak. and the iranians are absolutely certain that there's no way the germans would jeopardize those relations.

what makes the story really fabulous is that determined precisely wanted to do what a run that helped. there would want to make petro go away. it just wouldn't. it is the process of how we wouldn't go away, how it is that the two powers come together to cover this of, and yet it seems to go on and take on the life of its own. that makes a really wonderful. >> has a chase you to write this? uses a this stays the course of your career that you were a poet and then he wrote a memoir and now you would like to do more books of this chandra. so it must have had an impact.

>> i was saying about what i want to write next. i have a couple of ideas. in fact, i have plan one that is very exciting to me. the only thing that has changed within me is that i want bought that i would like to try my hand at fiction. after this that think there are so many great stories that have gone untold that if they are discovered and properly told by people who can have proper access, proper knowledge, because you know i was in a privileged position with the story. being a run in our having been born and raised and ron i clearly had access to a whole slew of things that, you know,

and non runyon would have a harder time getting at. so i think there are individuals , their individual writers who are particularly in a position to do certain stories, and i think we owe it, not just to the public, but history, the literature, to rediscover the stories and show what is about them that they're revisiting. i think -- aside from the fact a keep talking abut this is a great story, but in addition to the fact that it is a great story it is also a very essential story for all of us today who want to understand what in the world is story on. i mean, it seems like the more we spend time, and as a we --

the we that i'm using here includes the white house to ordinary americans who are just well-informed. the more we spend time learning about it and reading about it the less we understand it. it seems like a terribly enigmatic place. and i think part of the reason i don't find it enigmatic, i find it in part tragic, but not so enigmatic. part of it is because there are fundamental narratives that we don't know about each other. there are certain fundamental stories that we need to know about each other. and i believe that this is one of them. now, during its presidency in the united states we hear a ron is cast in a new light somehow. it's always of stark light, but

there is, you know, the angels kind of change and all that. we hear one taken the country. yet it does not lead to a greater comprehension. fox part of it has to do with the fact that there are really important narrative's that we are not telling the outsiders. you know, there are insider stories that we pass on to each other within the eggs out community, within the community of iranian, and we don't manage to pass it on. and then there are stories that somehow an addition to being translated but also need to be interpreted and passed on. and i think those of the kind of stories that we, even as human beings, release start to, i don't know, fall in love of the conference -- fall in love or

become friends. where did you grow up? what school did you go to? basic information. not simply about the fact or the data of the location and population of the country, but also the fundamental a motion or fundamental event beverly chance of a nation or shared the nation, and i think it is for writers like me who probably lived in that overlapping space between the two cultures and countries to figure them out and tell them. >> we shouldn't wait for a book of poetry about murders. >> a book of poetry about murders. there is an idea. but i hope when you read you find that some passages are pretty poetic. thank you.

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of the price continues the story of the oil industry, its impact on international politics, and the possible energy sources of the future. he discusses his findings with the associated press unit cap plo. >> welcome, daniel yergin, and thank you for doing this. first of all, let me congratulate you on what is quite an achievement, this book of yours, "the quest." the first thing i wanted to ask you is, wanted to ask you what prompted this book. obviously you have your pulitzer prize-winning book about the history of oil. so why this, why now? especially when one of your primary conclusions is that for a while things are really going to change much when it comes to our energy problem. >> there are couple of reasons. one is that big, long trends are

not going to change. a lot has changed in the world. the soviet union collapsed, china is the only country that is two chapters in this book. right up until what happened this year with the nuclear accident and the air spring tour both of them with a big impact on energy. so much that happened. the other thing is what i wanted to do is a little more ambitious , as ambitious as i thought that was. this tries to cover the whole energy spectrum and see how these pieces of the together. so there was a big topic to take on, as often happens. you find out the year but not more than you expected. >> it's interesting you say fit together because after reading 700 plus pages, not going to come out the footnotes -- >> thank you. >> it makes the book shorter. >> a lot shorter.

>> very perceptive. >> it's hard to see how they fit together. because if we continue, you know, to find oil through unconventional sources which has greatly expanded our proven reserves at least, what is stored to prompt us to go the renewable route which as you know we don't get much bang for your buck in terms of the energy produced, some logistical hurdles, to say the least. so i guess how to use cds fitting together eventually? >> it is really in evolution. technology -- the story is a lot about how technologies evolve, where they come from, how they get started. and so you go back to when there is great excitement about grenoble's in the 1970's and 1980's. you look back and realize they're immature technology. went today is a much more sophisticated technology, and so they continue to develop.

wind, solar, the whole name of the game is to bring their costs down to be competitive. meanwhile, will we are seeing is the technological innovation happen in the energy area, and a picture of energy supply in the u.s. is very different than it looked when i started this book. >> she started this book in 2005 >> 2005, 2006. this unconventional gas revolution or shale gas that burst on the scene in 2008. it's not until 2011 that people woke up to this other thing this happening with what's called u.s. oil production going up rather than going down. u.s. oil import going down instead of going up which is what we have been capitulated to for some many years. >> now, you discuss in chapter two that the idea of the petrus state, and a lot of it is venezuela and the rise of hugo chavez and his nationalization of the oral industry there. when he mentioned in connection

with fidel castro in cuba. that got me thinking because there is a lot of controversy right now about plans by cuba to drill offshore, especially after the gulf oil spill the we had last year. >> that's a very interesting change. >> and tried to explain the logic here. how does cuba getting into the offshore oil game, how will that affect the stability of energy, if at all? and is there a reason for us to be as concerned as we are? >> i think, you know, the thing is to is very close to florida. some of the water they are controlling is very close to florida. and so a concern about basically environmental security and how it would be managed. of course, you know, the decade those that you might have

hydrocarbon resources cuts back to late 1950's. but now they're starting to drill those waters. oil has been very key to the relationship between venezuela and cuba because venezuela has stepped in and play the role that the soviet union used to play in terms of propping up the cuban economy. i think my expectation would be that as such point that the company's start drilling in company's start drilling in those waters, the concern in florida and the united states about it. put aside the politics, which are complicated enough, but the security. >> now, you also talked on page 109, actually, and it struck me. i think this conversation of ours, and going to relate what you wrote here to the events happening today, which is what i do for a living. so the state, while oil can generate a great deal of revenue it is a capitol intensive industry. this means it creates a

relatively few jobs adding further to the pressure on government to spend on welfare entitlement. in this country, as you know, the more was a job killer and the more was a job killer and the push to open up more public sources is being touted by certain people in politics as a job creator. when i read that sentence i question whether is it a really big job creator? >> i was thinking that sentence, let's say the middle east country with the big population that does not have a lot of other skills and industry and therefore there aren't that many jobs. oil producer in the middle east and a lot of people don't have jobs. what is interesting that has become clear as you look at it more carefully is there is a job and then there are these jobs that support them, and then there are the jobs that are called lose jobs with charm more

income. when you look at that it actually turns out that there are a lot of secondary jobs that are created that people would not think that jobs are being created from the gulf offshore industry, ohio or california. industry, ohio or california. and so my point that it kind of depends on the country and the scale and the kind of, whether you have all of these other industries that support it. so some countries, it's a huge problem. it turns out i think we're learning now in the united states, there are a lot of jobs, secondary jobs. >> and what about the concept of jobs from the renewal will energy industry, which is the bus turned these days? it is in a lot of discussion about that recently about whether, you know, the obama administration is successful or creating the clean jobs. d.c. renewable energy as wind,

solar, geothermal, biofuel has great job creators? >> they create jobs. the question is the scale of them. interesting, ethanol, one thinks that this is in an urban area, motor fuel and so forth. of course of the ball was also very important to the economy of rural areas. kind of transforming and some of that. i think we are seeing is a lot of expectation and hope for doreen jobs. it's just the scale. these have to be bigger businesses. the other question is, of course, where are the elements that go into the economy. >> in the guest of fossil fuel jobs, is one better than the other? this scale of the oil and gas industry so much larger? >> he looked at the numbers of the last few years. more jobs.

cream shops are going to grow. the story i tell is how these industries started to rescale. last year about $120 billion worldwide and electric generation. that's a big number. it just takes time because the whole energy system at large. >> you mentioned at the mall. toward the end of the book. kind of jump there. i found that part of the book really interesting. you seem to be a believer in biofuel. is that accurate? at least enthusiastic. >> well, i was fascinated. so many of these things quite biofuel and of the ball in the electric car, you have to go back a century. picking of the story. 1910 and 1920, or there's a big move for ethanol during the great depression.

having such difficult time. then we had in the 1970's, there's a picture in the book of a u.s. senator pouring into a tractor engine of capitol hill to demonstrate the potential biofuel. i think that we are limited in the united states. it's now about 6 percent of the energy basis of our motor fuel. a larger in terms of volume, but i think the, you know, what is out there? what our potential game changes. and one of them is what is called second-generation biofuel where you're making biofuels not from foodstuffs but from april through waste and other things around in things like that. that was really kind of ontario for five years ago. it doesn't get as much attention, but those efforts continue. where my brake shoes come from could well come with the intensification of effort from these second-generation

these second-generation biofuels. you know, easy biologists now, part of the energy business ten years ago biology was not really part of the energy business. it's part of what i call in the book the great bubbling of innovation. >> the other thing that i found interesting about ethanol is that and correct me if i'm wrong or misleading and all, but it seems to be a success, right? it seems to be getting a foothold because of government policy that has made it successful. i found that really interesting because there is a manipulation of the market going on to make ethanol bigger share of the with the law cars with the was excepted, where as this is today in washington to be a push to have the market do what the market was subdued

how is it that it is okay tinker when the can to ethanol and we are encouraged not to really tinker when it comes to solar and rant. >> to your -- to use your phrase book consists 36 percent of your electricity, some would call that a pretty big tanker. big tanker. we do lot in this country by mandate, by requirement and such and such a percentage of motor fuel has to be biofuel. such and such a percentage of the electorate cast to be renewable. and that is the way, you know, if you just look at it and say kind of what is giving a boost to it in helping my scale is this mandate. because most of the renewable stolen. you know, wind is an alternative . >> so in at the mall i did not see a lot in your discussion of

what, about the environmental. i'm going to come back to that because as you know, the national academy of science has a report of the hidden cost of energy, and one of it, if he looked at the life cycle of e 85 in terms of the mall, it's actually more damaging in terminally this trip gasoline. i mean, how do we -- >> you know, i did not go in depth to that. i discuss that. also as to whether it takes more energy to make ethanol when you add of it. well, what energy input are using to do it? very fierce arguments about that. i think it would have to go back. five years ago the kind of report around at the mall was probably stronger today. it is now part of the motor fuel.

>> upstate new york, and another out was one of the environmental things that pushed us to ethanol. >> dollars one of the great. you know, in terms of volume in the united states is about half a million barrels a day. that is kind of like, you know, a small to medium-sized oil producing country. very happy to have the kind of volume. but i did talk, you know, in the book the former governor of iowa , secretary of our culture, and he, you know, he, like others have talked about and also has a way of rural development. and so i think to some parts of the country those issues. >> right. >> because you always give the question, why do we have

national energy policy? it's a different. is that a simple thing to have the single energy policy for country our size. >> once again in reading your book so many times, all these are just got so i thought of when i was reading it. but in the chapter that you title to aggregate destruction, you talk about the confluence of world events that happened and have a huge impact on energy prices, just as the price of oil , venezuela, the political overtaking of the our oil industry there. hurricane katrina andrea. yet we have republican presidential candidates, at least one going to come into office in a gas price is $2 a barrel, and others say the president brought obama so intent a president was to call the huge increase in the price of gas. are any of these arguments realistic, given the global oil

market that you so well described in this book? how much can a u.s. president, let alone the country to? >> it is. president after president. they have less control over the energy market. you go back to richard nixon. a photograph of him giving a speech in the buck. jimmy carter, making energy the cornerstone. i make him a president after president. there aren't that many levers to pull. and what has happened is that in a way our influence over energy in this country is lessened. we used to be the name of the game. we consume more energy in the united states. and we talk about the chapter on aggregate destruction. i have one. i have one. trying to answer the question

you. two. how do we go in 2004, the general view, $20 a barrel and might collapse. four years later is a hundred and $47.207. how did that happen? what of -- one of the factors was the growth of demand. almost unexpectedly in the emerging market. a kind of just burst on the scene in 2004 and 2005. it was hard for americans to realize that what they were seeing at the pump was partly affected by what happened in provinces in china his name did not even know because of energy demand there. and so i think their is a kind of a lot local market that has been sifting. we still use twice as much oil as china. >> basically the bottom line. >> well, you know, i mean, interesting things are happening

we're going to have a lot more to talk but another mandate, the empire in the global market to go from 30 mpg cars to 54 mpg cars, which from the viewpoint of an automobile company is not very far away. those kind of things have a big impact. you can see the automobile makers, how do we actually do this? tires are starting to disappear from the cars. the fuel efficiency standard. >> now, it's a great entry point to my next question. he talked about the state of the union, the increase. the demand for oil. to give what he said, iranian president, venezuelan president pieter chavis out of the oval office. so bush thought, hey, i'm going to a reduce our demand.

but interesting about that, nowadays members of the nowadays members of the republican party are just drumming the supply side. more supply. joe morris home. >> bush was saying that. basically there are two characters. one is applied and one is demand. it was interesting. that's what the kind of said. but there is a geopolitical context to all of this to reduce, particularly during that time with a very tight oil market to reduce the influence of these two characters, among others, not only on the oil market, but jen global affairs. >> can we drill our way out of energy independence to make his energy independence even possible? i'm asking this for the lay people out there then he these

debates, that aren't daniel yergin premier energy experts, aren't needed cover energy day in and day out. in and day out. is that a total pipe dream when you hear politicians say energy independence? and how much if we could just say, okay, the clothes are off, let's go. drill anywhere. >> we could run as sequence of president after president after president after president. i think the reality is we're part of a global economy. we tried a lot. and so the real question is sort of vulnerability, energy security. it is not a question that we have to be 100 percent independent. and i ask one senator about this in the buck. actually, energy independence really means energy security, but energy security is kind of abstract.

a degree of using the position where our economy is less vulnerable to destruction, shot, and american people can count the unreasonably priced close of energy. and so then ensues, i think, are on both sides of the equation. we become more efficient. by the way, we are twice as energy efficient as they were in the 1970's. just imagine if that hadn't happened. at the same time people thought the at the finish to find out. >> to the drilling question. some republicans on the one hand and on the campaign trail by saying joe, joe, drill. invoking sarah palin's.

and the democratic response to that has been a concept called that has been a concept called user lose it. "companies in this country i wanted to ask you this. a wonderful job in this book saying that politics and policy all the long, when it comes down to it the technology to get the oil. that partial. so use it or lose it a viable concept? >> much more. the concept actually because companies don't have the resources. takes time. he don't want them rushing into the gulf. dot every i and cross every t. there are long lead times in the energy business. begin a project today, and you'll see them producing.

your allocation capitol depends on the prices reflect that. there is definitely a middle ground here that are reasonable approach to develop resources that are important to our economy and also the jobs and all the other things are talking about and kind of do it on a reasonable basis. you know right now we are in the middle of the situation. all the discussions of energy like everything else tend to be more polarized. >> there are a lot of great characters. john rockefeller obviously. there is the guy in china. iron man. what is it about, you know, oil and natural gas and this whole

arena that attacks being larger than life personalities? >> it's also true, like the one chapter. >> hope also. >> solar, these two guys. >> yes. >> they're making these days using the oven. spiky with coca-cola. i mean, these guys to know nothing about this. go into the solar business. there were companies for the government. one of the things i love doing, british things come from? where does one come from? of course where did the revolution with natural gas come from. the energy business, it does have a lot of people who are very strong willed his take a lot of disappointments and navy are somewhat sticking with the seizure when it looks like the people sang -- almost a

novelistic way but are very important. >> you also dispose of some very interesting facts. the effective prohibition on ethanol or ethanol based fuel or the robbery of solar panels and pipelines to see hydroponic marijuana growers in california. just really interesting tidbits. even in energy writer by myself. >> energy tends to be seen as an abstract question to the gasoline company and so forth. everyone to show people doing things. things. manufacturers back in the 80's. i mean, really puzzled. they wanted to be able to draw electricity without drawing the

utility's. the police to determine there was a surge of electricity. >> now, in the book -- >> by the way, let me also said that one of my favorite characters in the book is a man who was a professor of caltech and marked the 1-because it was so dirty he gave up what was his favorite subject which was trying to understand why pineapples are sweet to work on a question. but he was also just -- is not a scene that runs through the whole book, but the acting -- ingredients and marijuana. >> really? the other guy, and i forget his name, but the guy who wrote one of the first papers on fracking was the same guy who thought that it be to oil.

to think that the guy, we were going to run out of the stuff. >> and hubbard. >> right. >> far beyond him. >> up there was really interesting. it begs the question for me as a reader. one of the people that comes up in the whole of this question is that he failed in his projection to incorporate technology, yet he wrote a paper which today has opened up for natural gas. >> that's right. so he's right about technology. there is this the and that people kind of the technology is over. you know, we have gone as far and no we know. looked at our world will live in.

the technologies continue to happen. as a character in the book who in 1824 wrote a paper, but he's also a soldier and minister of war. the british had bested difference. the napoleonic or. he talked about this revolution that kind of captured the world. the first time it was a human labor or animal labor. it was technological ingenuity. endicott of the great revolution. i think in a way the great revolution that unfolds a richer and accessories. you know, the world 11, a lot of scientists and a lot of engineers. >> agree on trade to my next question. at times in the book the scene

to oscillate between on the one hand government policies mandate how these subsidies and needed to what kind of get this to it's going. and then another point in the book when you talk about the oil fence and also the california blacked out, regulation debacle, you suggest that government intervention messed up, was to blame in part for a cover you know, the loyalty of being drug business should have, or california : not being great in the market. ready you come out at the end of the day? do we need government policy to make this transition? if not, what is going to drive it?

will it be high prices because of demand, high prices because of the cost to get to read the zero is. is it going to be carbon, i'm not seeing the british. >> at think you have to look at the requirements about technology. that is the force of law. governor jerry brown to win the 1970's, early 2011. it has the force of law. >> so you have that going on. i think that energy is so fundamental pillars suit the vote -- is so tied up. when you lick it energy in the united states the notion of the

kind of wild category. very highly regulated activity. very highly regulated. california, these people in california only a decade ago, it was a fundamental mistake in deregulation. they deregulated have the market and did not deregulate the other half and this seemed that california would be in a recession. maybe california would just run up against the wall, and that's what happened. >> what do you say to people who are like, we should just epicycle policy makers and politicians and let this is sorted out based on market dynamics. we don't have a federal. >> we have many states. >> fifty-four mpg is a very powerful piece of energy regulation.

the year down the list the lots of things are happening. it continues to happen. the california air resources board, you haven't heard of it. the closest thing we have to our global regulators. because of the market, well, you can bring one car for california and the for nevada. the automobile manufacturers all over the world. there are a lot of things happening that people don't see that are certainly part of this fabric of government and market. there is no final fixed frontier this is kind of an ongoing interaction. >> so let me ask that other way. so because you have call really long way costa writing this book in 2005, with where we are,

being where we are today without government intervention -- >> well, if we have not had fuel efficiency standards you would have a very different picture. but its government intervention. is that a question of should we. attila story. to visit the greatest businessman of the 1920's. the one thing he wanted to do was conserve his name. he came this close to going to jail and died in the paris metro with $0.52 in his pocket. but you go back. really at the beginning of the 20th-century. you need to have 20 or 30 or 40 different the electric power companies all in one city. though all ledger power system,

regulatory bargain. >> in your chapter on unconventional you delve into the deep water horizon and the chain of mistakes that led to a. the talks about the missteps. how you explain why these missteps occur and why there were no established methods. also, i was wondering, are you surprised that this cover -- congress is not passed any legislation. are you surprised? >> well, the have the reorganization of the regulation of the offshore or oil industry. that's a big deal. a much deeper understanding.

it was an accident kind of thinking the unthinkable. the other could not happen because we know had to do it. well, it did happen. there are a lot of consequences. we have a new regulatory regime. >> which can be changed. >> well, i don't think -- i think the emphasis on safety, you know, you can argue but timing. does the agency have enough people. there are all those questions, but i think to back away from the current to safety, no one will ever want to have that happen again. and you also have the establishment. it should never happen again, but should it happen again, you have to know how to cook the function. it just went on a non.

>> there was an earlier even longer. >> yes. this was a great step. you could see they have a kind of invented technology along the way. now that capacity is there. for the purpose of the safety system that we have, that never has to be used again, but you needed in place and the resources committed so that if something does happen it would be unacceptable. >> you talked about the reorganization that is under way the mineral management service was renamed. now that has been further split the policing and a leasing part. the environmental safety part. this seems to me that you kind

of downplayed the coziness that exists between the regulator and the offshore oil and gas. safety officials now have to carry their own lunches. they are prohibited. even a cold bottle of andrade. oversimplified a little bit. regulators, people that were in charge of jen business. >> well, are you talking about what happened in denver? >> one in general into inspector general parts of "west coast, one and lake charles, and the other in new orleans. i believe fired for going to sporting events. >> well, sir leon don't about the one in denver. up the offshore industry.

>> it could be described as a symposium. i think that, you know, the inspectors, southern louisiana. there may indeed get to the same churches. that doesn't mean but there are going to be delivered. we have seen a couple of reports back to what happened. the president's commission, the federal agency. very important weapons think clearly part of the organization was to try to separate the different functions because the middle management service said the job about promoting offshore developments and the responsibility of managing the safety. at the other countries such as britain did after it had a bad offshore, joyous separate those two functions. on the water, the purpose of

that was to just show how much things have gone a hundred and 80 degrees. you could have a bottle of water. >> this seems like a little tongue-in-cheek. >> well, i was just trying to capture how did changed. the accident was a momentous accident. people's lives are lost. cover some much of the ocean. you don't just go from home when done face to another. funny up the way public deregulated. every minute objective. >> you mentioned snicker energy. >> tell me about that. >> you mentioned that government regulators, unit, in the wake of

three mile island there was an investigation just like with the gulf oil spill and the presidential appointed panel. >> yes. admiral rickover. >> very interesting he is none of the great characters in this book. the people of the average generation have never heard of him. not only the father of the nuclear navy, 62 years in active duty, which is incredible. also the father of nuclear power he was a very cantankerous person. he drove the other admirals' crazy. jimmy carter called in the greatest is near all-time. >> in the book he put jerry car on the spot. >> yes. >> in an interview of some sort. >> so rigorous to get into the nuclear navy. rickover interview people. he sure did one of the chair

legs so people feel uncomfortable. and so he's interviewing young james earl carter who was in the nuclear navy. fifty-seven to my class and annapolis. he says live in the debate in that? he was bragging about it. i was going to say something. very interesting, after the three mile island accident in pennsylvania in 1979 carter appointed rickover to evaluated for a. a concluded in the book the letter that rickover wrote after the accident. i was perry struck by it. you could apply it to many accidents. >> i wrote in the margin. >> the road in the margin. this is like the cut and pasted it.

or the joint investigation. >> what you have is you have a series of cascading things. it one of them had not happened you may have had other we had seven of ten. they all come together. when i read the letter and have exactly the executed. >> the call to lead the investigation and three mile island. at the end he warned against the syndrome maturing government regulators and the nuclear industry. he also said that government regulators would never be sufficient and cannot adequately do the job. that is how it was created. >> well, a body. >> self regulation. very tight regulation. then you have the industry where

they go out and a critique each they go out and a critique each othe r. they're very tough on each other. there is a recognition that if one of them makes the mistake everybody is vulnerable. >> i think about works. i imagine in my mind. kind of like the same concept. the school playground playing a game. one of the boys. you have to clean and pure act. there are a commission that the president set up in the wake of the deep water horizon disaster called for an entity for oil and gas. do you think that is needed? our government regulators, how could you prove that government regulators are insufficient for nuclear and not conclude that there were insufficient on offshore in the wake of the porter horizon? >> this is still evolving.

there are similarities, but there are also big differences. first of all, basically companies, the donkey with each other. so once you start having people regulating each other strains the enough to raise antitrust questions that have to be, which has to be managed. and also it's simpler because you don't have that many nuclear operators. certainly there are going to be industrywide appropriations the going to both mother and push technology and so forth. i think it's hard for industry to have that kind of self regulation. the antitrust. >> you say the book on page 524, more than any other president a forehand rock, has invested his administration in making the

energy. you say he has raised the stakes of renewable energy to level of national destiny. that destiny was the reason the company was in the five were million loan guarantee. today the new york times had an article about geothermal plants that have federal backing in nevada. financial trouble. after the failure of captain after the failure of captain trade legislation , and i looked the renewable energy subsidies are kind of questionable in some parts of the political sphere. if you are revising president barack obama would you tell him to fold on renewable or to double down? >> so, made a big commitment. i don't think he's going to fold. a don't think there's a wherewithal to double down. the whole focus is on the federal.

consolidate bring down the federal deficit and extending. it's very tough to talk about any kind of stimulus, including a great stimulus. in the 1990's i ran a test for is for the apartment of energy, and one of the things i was struck by is the volatility of spending and r&d, not the big loan guarantees and things like that, but the basic function of the federal government to support basic r&d and support young scientists, engineers. you know, that is why we have the internet. the internet did not come out of the garage. some things do come out of people's brushes. that was not one. did the department of defense after the cuban missile of crisis. how do you communicate with your bases in a crisis. so i think what i do believe

what we need is consisted tell reasonable level of r&d spending so that people can make careers. it said the question of picking winners and losers, but supporting the creative people who will bring innovations and the changes that were going to need for the growing world economy, which is one of the basic underlying themes that ties together. ties together. ..

prices were going to go like that. instead they went like that. once that happens, it just disappeared. it's interesting, reagan appears in the book any number of different places. his acting career -- >> host: i never knew that. one of the revelations where he was around ge, right? >> guest: right. >> host: that shows my age by the way. >> guest: before that his acting career got a bad place and he was doing stand up comedy and introducing a cme group in and introducing a cme group in las vegas. i wanted to use that as a story of the electrification of her country because that's what happened after world war ii. we had growth rates in our electricity demand like we see in china today. wonderful commercials that talk about ronald reagan and nancy reagan did where she had the

cameras, welcome to my house, let you show my electric servants, it was like a vacuum cleaner, things we take for granted. i think there's a consensus on something that wasn't there before. i think one of them, and i remember vividly not a consensus, this whole question of energy efficiency. it makes good economic sense but it makes good sense to do it. and i don't find there's a kind of political animosity. turn one there's not, i think you're right. >> guest: that's the problem can when it's not sexy. you can't see it. tranten there's no great -- that is the challenge, i close the form energy commissioner, the european union who said this is important, great stuff. he said there's no red ribbon to cut. you can't have an opening ceremony, with your beautiful new turbine or something. >> host: also, it goes to one

of the big challenges in this whole topic. and one that takes a lot of political courage which is basically there's a personal responsibility. >> guest: right. >> host: right? barack obama get into a lot of trouble when he candidly talked about cap-and-trade in an editorial board in california, where the whole point of cap-and-trade is to send that price signals. and the quote that not every republican, they will necessarily skyrocket energy prices. that's the whole point of what cap-and-trade is. that's the whole point, and when you start manipulating it in wax and march at the end of the day by building in, but basically diminishing that price signal for the consumer, you talk about in this book over and over and over again, what changes people's habits is an increase in price. remember as a kid my mom sang to me, we don't own gfa, turn the

light off. that resonates but it seems that's a very hard political road to walk when -- >> guest: that's why, i mean, that's why i think right now the bad economy, jobs, unemployment, these are the dominating questions, this weakness of global economy. and you approach energy issues and they are so important, then you do during good times when people, the wealth affected work. there's a fear factor at work, affect what you do. but that's why you go back, no congressman, no congresswoman is going to vote for a gasoline tax. a gasoline tax would say you can buy a more efficient car. the way we go about it, we have

fuel efficiency standards is the way to do it. it just kind of reflects our culture. >> host: if we continue to go like this, right, up and down with our support of renewable energy, and other countries either remain constant or go like this, or rise, will we ever get into the clean energy race? it's so interesting the whole china and japan and asia being ahead of us is that we are behind, it's very clear from your book, all the time. are we ever going to -- >> guest: i don't think we're behind. i think we're at the forefront. we are at the forefront technologically. china has manufacturing, low-cost manufacturing and driving down the cost, so that's why they're moving so fast. it's not like they have some great insights that we don't. they also have some very important wind sources, in the book i quoted an official talked

book i quoted an official talked about winds in the northwest. we regard them as a precious resource. i don't think, whether china has x number of wind turbines, i don't think we are winning or losing in that race. i think the heart of it is what's happening in innovation, and i think we continue to be there. our great universities. i think, and we have something else. we have more players coming into the game, venture capitalists and others. so there is just more going on. i don't think we are going to lose. i do think that what's kind of on the horizon right now coming down the road would be a better way to put it, is an electric car race, or race for the car race, or race for the electric car. and that certainly has strategic elements to it. >> host: one of the other him things i was struck with and again, this is me, linking what you say in your book is some more current events, during the

kyoto protocol, working for the clinton administration at the time, pushed using markets just like we did for so2, lead. by the way, a mission of trading by the way, a mission of trading and market, pricing, pollution if you want to say it. >> guest: exactly. another ronald reagan story. reagan at his cabinet meeting says when i was a young man, lead in gasoline was considered this great technological advance. now we're going to get rid of it. he said you'll remember, and he looked around the cabinet room and he said, none of you are old enough to remember. >> host: right. when he was arguing against the europeans basically, he wanted to have a mandate. he said there are three issues cost, cost and cost.

the cost of litigating climate and him change would be far too expensive for any economy to bear. do you agree with that? as you know, our attempt in u.s. to set up a market system, via legislation, permanently stalled when there was no hope. is the clean air act too expensive? expensive? >> guest: it is very -- i mean, the whole development of using market to solve environmental problems sort of the development of the 1980s and 1990s, as a much more efficient way, the command and control doing it -- >> host: a republican idea. >> guest: that's right. it goes back to george h. w. bush's administration. indeed, it goes back to ronald reagan's administration. it meant the cost reductions of reducing and so too from coal electric generation was much lower than anticipated. i think, what i find when i was listening to people talk about

cap-and-trade, in that narrative always went back to what happened in the early 1990s, kind of, i was just fascinated. i wanted to get the story, how did that happen. and we just found out cap-and-trade for society is big and complex, much harder to do than something that is fairly focused on limited number of -- so i think, you know, and so i would say if you're saying what's climate policy today. i would say getting cars to 54 miles a gallon, renewable standards. one-third of california's electricity, that's climate policy. >> host: we can do this transition from a fossil fuel-based electricity without a price on carbon? >> guest: i think others would say you have to have some form of a price on carbon. that would change everything.

and that becomes a complex political, very complex political question. in the united states. but i think that what i was trying, you know, and it's also him i think we just have to realize that energy transitions take a long time. wind is a big business today, but it's still small compared to the overall energy picture but it's going to grow. >> host: a minute left, and i'm going to paraphrase it because -- oh, no, here it is. i wanted to ask you about. it really struck me, in a massive book when one quote kind of, you were talking about an indian scientist, the head of actually the environment. he offered an unusual perspective. he said the climate world is divided into three.

the climate atheist, the climate agnostic, and the climate evangelical. i think we probably put people that are in the public in this category. which one are you? >> guest: i think that i look on climate as, it's clear, the whole story about the measuring of carbon and carbon is going up in the atmosphere, and impacts on climate. what the time is, what the models are going to show, i mean, i'm not a climate scientist. that's not what i'm doing, so what i try to do is kind of explain how the scientific consensus is turned into a political consensus. that's what i was trying to do in that story. >> host: are you agnostic? you don't want to label yourself? >> guest: i wanted to tell the story and help people have a framework when all these issues, whether it's climate, energy, everything comes along, to see them in perspective. i wanted to do it in a very narrative way. >> host: thank you very much.

>> because i didn't speak and i didn't give really a window into my life, i have become kind of an evil cartoon, and i couldn't help myself with wearing a hat coming out in court. but i have become kind of a villain and i wanted to show people i'm not an evil person. i'm a regular person. i did things that were wrong but i don't have a tail or horns. i grew up like everybody else. it this weekend on at fort on c-span2's booktv, power and corruption on capitol hill. once the most influential lobbyist in washington, tran one was convicted of mail fraud and conspiracy in 2006. is a story saturday night at 10 eastern. also from news for all the people, juan gonzalez on the role of segregation played in the way news is reported. and marjory ross on what it

takes to be successful in a publisher and author. sunday at 11:15 p.m. booktv every weekend on c-span2. >> "the associated press" is reporting that senior administration officials are saying that president obama will use a recess up limiting in richard cordray as the nation's chief consumer watchdog despite strong republican opposition. the president is likely to cause an uproar among republicans in congress to the white house containing the senate pro forma legislative sessions are a gimmick and, therefore, the president has the power to make a short-term appointment. we do expect the president to make that announcement today. he is holding a news briefing, and appeared in ohio and you can see that live at about 1:15 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> while mitt romney was the winner of last nights i was cocked and what was the closest caucus ever, beating out rick

santorum by only eight votes, 30,015, 30,007. ron paul came in third with a close 21%. cbs news is reporting that governor perry is going back to texas to assess his campaign and the path forward. we are learning today that massachusetts congresswoman michele bachman has canceled a trip to south carolina. she will be holding an 11:00 news conference in des moines after getting only 5% of the vote last night. and is planning live coverage of her news conference again at 11 a.m., followed by your phone calls. >> last september the lifetime achievement award was given to cnn anchor larry king for his more than 50 years in the news business. the news and documentary in the awards were presented at a ceremony at the lincoln center in new york city. the event was attended by more than 900 television and news media executives, documentary

producers and journalists. this is about two and a half hours. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the chairman of the national academy of television arts and sciences, malachy wienges. [applause] >> thank you very much. good evening. i'd like to welcome you to the 32nd annual dues emmy award. the people in this room tonight represent the very best in broadcast journalism. and at the national academy wage to congratulate all the nominees for their outstanding contributions in the excellence of television. [applause] >> thank you. we are especially pleased to see an honor larry king or more than 50 years in news and entertainment broadcasting. he has graced our homes --

[applause] he has graced our homes night after night with enormous figures and the incredible amount of talent. and we this you are proud to give him the honor read as lifetime achievement award for the national academy, thank you. [applause] i'd also like to acknowledge a couple people who made this event possible tonight. first of all i would like to thank the judges who judged over 1300 entries that we received this year. it is their efforts that allowed us to celebrate events -- the best and brightest in our industry each each year. on behalf of the awards committee i would like to thank linda and chuck, co-chairs of the awards committee. [applause] and finally i would like to thank the staff of the national academy.

specially transfix who is the director of news and manager, christine chen. so thank you. [applause] and now to lay down a few of the ground rules for this evening as transfix director of our news in these -- david? thank you. in thank you predicable miss will begin presenting the see things any worse. at the moment only account knows who the winners are picked the judges bought constructed to the accounting firm for tabulation. here with the sealed envelopes in hand are the managing partner, don and his associate charity and mike wallace. [applause] in addition representing the accounting for the nation -- arts and sciences is mr. jeff cheong. [applause] and to help us present the more

than 40 awards that will be presented with the gracious assistance of -- [applause] >> so before we begin let's go over a few simple ground rules. first of all for those of you fortunate enough to be called to the podium, our announcers will announce the name of the person accepting the award as you come to see to it for some reason you don't have been announced or so else is excepting tonight, please identify yourself at the podium. for those emmy winners who are sitting i in the message or the balcony tonight, look for the intent of the nearest exit to get on the left or the right angle quickly escorted down to the stage to accept your a war. while you may bring as many people did stage 10 as you would like, remember, only one acceptance speech for a war and please limit your remarks to 36 but after accepting the award you exit stage left will you be escorted to the pressroom for photographs. so please remember, identify yourself if necessary, only one speech per award, and please keep your remarks to 30 seconds. and one last thing, let's all

take a minute to turn off our iphones at our blackberries or any sort of small portable electronic devices that make an annoying buzzing noise while you're trying to give your acceptance speech. in other words, turn off your phones. congratulations to all the nominees, and good luck. [applause] >> please welcome the moderate of pbs washington week, and senior correspondent for "the pbs newshour," gwen ifill. [applause] >> it's always great to start off, isn't it? i'm pleased to be here with you tonight. i am pleased to be with you to salute the best in our business. you may have noticed, we are at a turning point in broadcast journalism. audiences increasingly get their information from everybody but us, whether it is wikipedia or

google or twitter. and all of that is fine, but news still needs a curator. those sources that tell you what you want to know but also what you need to know. and sources that dig deeper than 140 characters will allow. fortunately, there is too much amazing work being done in our business, and i get to begin tonight's ceremony by celebrating the best of the best in investigative journalism, long form news coverage, business and arts and cultural reporting, music, sound and cinematography. let's get right to it. the nominees for outstanding investigative journalism in a newsmagazine are,. >> brian ross investigates, make a wish swindle, 2020, abc. 21st century, "60 minutes," cbs.

>> blackwater 61, "60 minutes." cbs. spiritually bankrupt, dan rather reports, hd net. >> and the emmy goes to -- so much fun -- "60 minutes," 21st century snake oil, cbs. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, scott pelley. >> our hidden cameras capture one of the most outrageous ponds we have ever reported. >> there's no surgeon in the world who doesn't support this approach. is a 21st century snake oil salesmen building desperate patients out of their life savings. >> we have people out of wheelchairs. >> i understand you that patients that have stood up and walked away from wheelchairs? >> have been patients that have improved to that extent. >> you know, the trouble is,

that you are a con man. [applause] >> that was a hanging curveball, right there. first of all, thank you very much to the academy. my name is bill owens, i'm the executive editor of "60 minutes." and the people who really should be up here and hope you are making their way down from the cheap seats are -- [laughter] sam hornblower, david, here they are, the group from the terrific investigative unit at the "60 minutes," bob chaddock was the editor. [applause] and scott pelley, as you saw, was the correspondent. we worked on this story for over a year, and investigative

journalism matters to everybody in this room, and matters a lot to us at "60 minutes." thank you very much, we really appreciate the honor. [applause] >> moving right along to the nominees for outstanding continuing coverage of a news story long form our -- >> the quake, "frontline," pbs. [applause] >> and the emmy goes to, afghan

outpost, national geographic channel. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, sebastian junger, director and producer. >> hi. i am sebastian junger. this is the mother of my colleague, tim hetherington. [applause] >> so, i filmed that part. it always disturbs me so that's why i was trying to talk over

it. i want, there's only people to thank, but foremost in my mind is the gaping absence of peer on the stage of my friend, colleague and brother, tim hetherington. [applause] we are really lucky to have his mother, judith, appeared on stage, and his wonderful father, alastair, over there. [applause] i just, i just want to briefly say, he was come he was killed in misratah, libby, on april 20. he devoted his life to chronicling the human cost of war. he became part of that cost five and a half months ago. and it's just a real honor to be

a peer accepting this award for myself, for tim, and also for the men of second platoon battle company who allowed us into their lives for a year. i love them all. i love tim, and really, i'm going to miss him tremendously. thank you. [applause] >> and the nominees for outstanding business and economic reporting in a newsmagazine are --

>> and the winner for outstanding business and economic reporting in a newsmagazine, the emmy goes to dan rather reports, the mysterious case of kevin hsu, hd net. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, dan rather. [applause] >> he was hoping to move large quantities of expensive medicine, the problem was he was fake. >> he was unlike any other person that we had encountered. >> between the fake drugs he had sold undercover agents, and the details he revealed on tape, they had what they needed and moved into make an arrest. he is currently serving his sentence in big spring texas and he's been named in an indictment in the united kingdom. [applause] >> thank you, thank you very

much. i would like to extend my thanks to the academy and to the judges, also a salute to others who are now made this category, any one of these pieces would have been a deserving winner. our executive producer, wayne nelson, who refused to come up here is to my right. elliott kircher, the senior producer, kelly busby who is here somewhere, come up, come up, kelly. kelly will beer in just a moment and there will be a delight for you. [laughter] >> the coproducer and editor, our senior editor steve tyler who's do senior editor steve tyr who's down here. kelly and daniel. thank you very much. thank you very, very much. [applause]

>> more. the nominees for outstanding arts and culture programming are -- >> i can't vote for soul train, a little a for that. having a flashback to my childhood. the emmy goes to independent lands, pbs. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, doug

pray, director. .. >> i'm amazed. i want to thank pbs so much for supporting us and the one club for making -- allowing me to make a film about creativity itself which is a very inspiring strange journey to do. i really want to thank folks in

the film who gave of their lives and their stories and shared their way of communicating which is so efficient which is kind of amazing. i wish i could be that way right now. mary wells, jim durfy, george lois, david kennedy, lee, jeff, rich, hal and phyllis, and the last two who are no longer with us, anyway, this is for them and thuso much. i'm really, really honored -- thank you so much, i'm really, really honored, david, kevin and jimmy greenway. [applause] >> wow! >> the nominees for outstanding music and sound are

>> and the emmy goes to, great migrations, national geographic channel. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, kate hopkins, sound designer. [applause] ♪

♪ [applause] >> someone's running. they're running. they're coming. it's your moment. come on! [applause] >> yea! [applause] >> congratulations. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you so much. i would like to thank david hamlin on getting me on this amazing project and for kelly for mixing the tracks and those and davids i would to meet you

other than on skype. thank you very much. [applause] >> the nominees for outstanding sin -- cinema togoragy. >> and the emmy goes to explorer, lost mummies of new beginry, national geographic channel. [applause] >> accepting the emmy is ann

kerr, director of photography. >> 300 600 years ago this mummy is coming down to the village to be inspected and repaired by ula's colleagues who were en route. ♪ >> after the journey it must be dried. mummy's great enemy is water. [applause] >> now, assuming that national geographic got all their tickets together, we're assuming that maybe someone is on their way to get this; otherwise -- okay. come on! come, come. i was going to take this home with me. come on. [applause] >> congratulations. [applause]

>> wow, i wish i planned a speech now but i thought that was going to be bad luck. i want to thank all the other nominees it was a heck of a category and i think 60 minutes got shot at. i got heat stroke. that was it. so congratulations, everybody else. i want to thank john ruben who did the cinematography was the director of the film and a good friend. and i really want to thank my wife because she wouldn't come down there but a half hour before i came here, i realized i forgot my shoes in vancouver and she found these for me in about 20 minutes. thank you, carmen. i love you very much. [applause] >> and he can run in his new shoes. that's the best part. the outstanding -- the nominees for outstanding cinematography nature documentaries are --

>> and the emmy goes to great migrations, national geographic channel. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, john binnam, cinemagrapher. ♪

>> wow! >> thank you, everyone. [applause] >> wow! we did it, guys. we did it! >> i just want to note i did handed an emmy by gwen ifill. she's amazing. this is an amazing collaboration between the national geographic channel and national geographic television and i want to thank them a lot. of course, the academy and all of the guys here. it's a long list so i won't name everybody so weary -- we're immensely grateful and none of this would be possible without my family. i love you angela and i love you

noah. >> and if i was a great white shark i would only eat emmy awards. thank you. [applause] >> please welcome abc news chief investigative correspondent brian ross. [applause]r >> thank you very much. i'm so pleased to be here this grand evening for a celebration for the people who work in network television news. it's scheduled to begin as the network evening newscasts are still on the air. those who need a drink most can't get here until the bars closed but what do you want for $500 a seat. [laughter] [applause] >> in fact, there's an investigative reporter i can't help notice some of the similarities from some of those nigerian princes that i've received. [laughter] >> when the word comes of an emmy nomination i know i'm probably going to lose but it's

just too tempting not to hope anyway. maybe this time. [laughter] >> of course, tonight there will be winners. the people who have the skills and creativity and encouraged to survive and thrive, no matter what the commercial pressures may be. it's my honor to work with such colleagues over the last decades at both nbc and now abc news. given this platform i want to give a moment of personal privilege to some who are very close to me and never should be gorn. randy fairburn, correspondent don harris, cameraman bob brown and as we've heard tim hatherton. [applause] >> they are four of the all too many killed on assignment as they did their jobs as journalists. we keep faith of them by putting

ourselves on the line, to work without fear and taking on the powerful and speaking the truth and so for all of us, i hope this is much more than just a business. and we'll see that tonight with some of these winners. let's begin now with the nominees for outstanding investigative journalism long form. >> and the winner is pov, presumed guilty, pbs. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, roberto hernandez, director. [applause]

♪ >> thank you. [applause] >> everybody presumed guilty please come up to the front. even in the cheap seats. imagined being picked off the streets, told you committed a murder you know nothing about and find yourselves sentenced in 20 years in a mexican prison. this is what happened in summer in 2005 and he asked for help -- he's here tonight. when he asked my wife, we managed to get him a retrial and get him an astonishing lawyer to

defend him and get him free. but when i asked him for help, people behind me, turned it into fantastic footage in mexican history. injustices happen everywhere in the world and in almost mexico is just a system that's worse in the u.s., mexico does not have a death penalty and thanks to that, he's with us here and sadly, troy davis is gone. thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much. [applause] >> the nominees for outstanding news discussion and analysis are --

>> and the winner is the rachel maddow show. [applause] >> msnbc. >> accepting the emmy, the senior show producer. [applause] >> obviously, recently, the country has been famous in the news recently because they discovered all these minerals in the mountains -- >> they discovered, they discovered. we discovered that and we know they had incredible mineral wealth. >> you see a lot of rubies and

emeralds and turquoise. >> the biggest -- we're talking about jewelry and talking about counterinsurgency theory. >> wow, we have some more people upstairs in the cheap seats. hopefully they'll make it down. this is new for us. we are humbled to be among creditable competitors. rachel we need to think she's back at 30 rock preparing for the show as is most of the staff and we couldn't do it without her, obviously, and richard engel who was our guide on-camera and off. [applause] >> and msnbc president phil president and i thank them for having a show that's quirky and thanks to the troops over there. one thing rachel and i and everybody who went had firsthand of the knowledge is how credible they are and what they do to protect us and thank you to them and thank you to the academy and

for everybody who worked on the show. thanks. [applause] >> moving on, the nominees for outstanding live coverage of a current news story, long form are. >> and the emmy goes to anderson cooper, 360: crisis in haiti. >> accepting the emmy, charlie moore. [applause] >> executive producer. [applause]

>> she was 28 years old. she was a journalist. she was actually teaching a class, they say when the walls collapsed on her. >> a few blocks are used to seal the crypts. >> a 16-day old baby with some sort of head injury. they are begging for a doctor. >> she does not appear to have a head injury. she appears to be okay. [applause] >> thanks, everybody, so much. anderson is prepping for the show and he's on in 20 minutes, but he i know would extend his thanks in the same way that i want to and the reason why i want everybody to come up here now is to really show that this was, i think, the ultimate team effort and the type of stuff that we do and it started not

only with everybody standing here but also a lot of people that are in the audience today, all of our bosses and there are a lot of them and they're all gathered together. [laughter] >> for honestly having the faith in us to go to haiti when we had no idea what was going on there. and letting us be the first ones there because of that. and then one month later having the faith in us to stay and for that we thank you. so thanks, everybody. i appreciate it. [applause] >> now, the nominees for outstanding science and technology programming are.

>> the emmy goes to hbo documentary films, google baby. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, zippy brand frank, producer/director. >> hi. where's shelly she's a baby. and -- [inaudible]

>> i would like to invite the hbo people and to thank them very much for their trust and their support in me. i owe many thanks for people who are not here, but first of all, i'd like to thank -- to start thanking the great people who helped me to do this movie and share their life with me and expose the realities, to the people in israel, america and india, the surrogate mothers. i'd like to thank, yes, for trusting me for over 11 years with all my projects. i'd like to thank diana young. i'd like to thank my very dear husband for trusting me, for being the coproducer of this film, for being my partner, for

helping me to create it and to work on it for the three years i've been traveling and he was raising my two daughters in tel-aviv. and there's a big team who did a very hard work in tel-aviv, so thank you very much and i'm very, very excited and thank you again, hbo for the trust and for believing in the appreciation of this film. thank you. [applause] >> now, the nominees for outstanding nature programming are --

>> and the winner is first life, david attenbore, the discovery channel. >> accepting the emmy, anthony geffen, producer.

[applause] >> thank you very much, discovery channel, for supporting something they don't normally support, which is this kind of documentary. thank you to clark bunting who's in winslow and the bbc who, of course, initiated a project, bbc australia who supported it, and the whole team at zoo who managed to take real science and turn it into something really fascinating in a period we've never really seen, the early forms of life. but this award tonight is really about the greatest broadcasters of our time, david attenborough. >> in 60 years of broadcasting he has taken us from black and white to color, high definition and now in britain we won the

british academy award for 3d. what a history in one person. a very humbled person who is a brilliant story-teller and has been a great guide to all of us. when he started making programs we were in prams. but he -- ladies and gentlemen, i don't know if there'll be another broadcast quite equal to him, 60 years of outstanding broadcasting. i stupidly told him not to come tonight because i thought having won the bastro award i didn't think we would win. this is to david attenborough, probably one of the greats. thank you very much. [applause] >> the nominees for outstanding editing.

>> and the winner is restrepo, national geographic channel. >> accepting the emmy, michael levine, editor. [applause] ♪ >> keep going! keep going! [gunshots] >> what are we doing? >> right now!

[gunshots] [applause] >> thank you. i wasn't there for the shooting of that so i don't mind watching it. thank you sebastion. this is an opportunity for me to thank some of the teachers i've had, laura hayes, paul barnes. [applause] >> joel bernstein, this is just a couple of them. i want to thank, obviously, national geographic for being behind this film all the way. the men of second platoon, the bastian and, of course, tim heatherington, a man many great things have been said about him and none of them are exaggerations. and i don't know if grace has been in there, but a man of great beauty and grace and so this is for tim. thank you, guys, so much. thank you. [applause] >> thank you.

[applause] >> while most of tonight's awards recognize outstanding news coverage, broadcasts for a national audience, the next two awards recognize some excellent work being done in regional news. the nominees for outstanding regional news stories are -- >> and the winner is burr oak cemetery sign

cemete cemeteryscandal wmaq tv. >> accepting the emmy, the producer. >> i want to know where my baby is. where is my baby? >> there's a special place in hell for these graveyard thieves. >> the scandal at a suburban cemetery is growing tonight. as many as 300 bodies dug up with the plots to be resold, the team discuss that and the shock of the distraught relatives of the dead. good evening, i'm allison, and i'm dick johnson. tonight we're learning new details about the suburban cemetery scandal that is now making national headlines. [applause] >> thank you so much. i, first of all, want to thank phil rogers for breaking that story in chicago. i want to thank joe, our executive producer, frank whitiker and larry wert and the

whole nbc 5 news team and special thanks to pie family for their love and support and i look forward to bringing this back to chicago. thank you very much. [applause] >> and now the nominees for outstanding regional news story, investigative reporting. [applause] >> and the winner is 7 news, 33

minutes to 34 ride kmg tv, denver. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, tony koveski. >> when this continental crashed at da, the crews and firefighters reacted immediately within minutes. the plane was evacuated, the fire was out. not a single life was lost. the crash provided the perfect test of denver's emergency response system, a real life exercise for firefighters, ambulances and hospitals, an exercise that exposed a critical failure, a breakdown that centered 26 miles from here at denver health medical center. [applause] >> wow! what an honor! i have to tell you, when you look at the nominees tonight in this category and if there's any

question about investigative reporting being alive and well on local tv, you just need to look at what's there because it's a tremendous group of people. i am honored to be before you tonight. i want to give a special thanks to the elgin family, mark elgin was 38 years. he died waiting for an ambulance at dia, 33 minutes, six months later flight 1404 crashed at denver. 115 people survived the plane crash, again, they waited 33 minutes for the first ambulance to arrive. we were able to make a difference. there's now a dedicated ambulance at the fourth busiest airport in the country because of the commitment to journalism that the television station i work for has. it's an honor to be before you. thank you very much. [applause] >> please welcome, cnn's chief medical correspondent and host of the medical affairs program, dr. sanjay gupta.

>> good evening. [applause] >> it's a real honor to be here. i have to tell you before i get started the most bizarre thing is going on. dr. richard besser is actually chasing him around with a glass of apple juice. i don't know how to explain it. it is an awkward dance sometimes between medicine media but we're the luckiest people in the world that we get to do these jobs to have an impact. as a doctor, as a reporter and as a father of three young children it can be sometimes confusing as well. when the phone rings in the middle of the night, i never know for sure who is calling. do i grab the go-bag with the black t-shirts or the kevlar or my doctor's bag with "scrubs" and loops. a couple times i ended up with the diaper bag. i try not to scrub in for live shots or put on makeup for surgery, but i have counted down once before starting an operation, three, two, incision. i never plan for dual careers in medicine and in television.

it's sometimes weird. it's sometimes challenging. you hard will he never get enough sleep and as my wife tells me you can sleep when all of your three daughters are married. the other day i was driving around with my middle daughter and i had the stethoscope sitting on the seat and she picked it up and started playing with it. and i thought, wow, this is how it begins, her interest in medicine and then she looked up to it and held it to her mouth, and she said, welcome to mcdonald's, what is your order please. my older daughter will be the journalist of the family. she knows how to not bury a lead. a teacher was reading her a story, it was a story of chicken little. and they were describing chicken little running around warning the farmer saying that the sky is falling and the teacher stopped and looked at the class and what do you suppose the farmer said next? and my daughter raised her hand and she said, well, i think the farmer probably said, holy crap,

that chicken can talk. [applause] >> not burying the lead. i really love what i do, whether it's -- i cussed, i know. but she cussed, but my wife says she cussed because i cuss. i love what i do, whether it's medicine or journalism. i can tell you those 3:00 am phone calls, i really appreciate those because they put me in touch with the real lives and the real life stories of people who are often in their most trying times since we returned from haiti and more recently from east africa it's very difficult to get the images of the people that you see out of your minds. my dual and sometimes dueling professions gives us is privilege of making a difference and allowing me to be in your company tonight, with the very best in my company. so let's continue with the emmy awards. the nominees for breaking news news in a news story are.

>> and the emmy goes to 60 minutes, the blowout, pbs. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, scott pelley. [applause] >> take your breath away type explosion, >> mike williams was the chief electronics technician on board the deepwater horizon one of the last to escape the inferno, he believes a series of mishaps may

have contributed to the catastrophe and his story hasn't been told until tonight. >> all the things that they told us could never happen, happened. [applause] >> thank you very much, everyone. it's a humbling experience to be mentioned in the same category with all of these tremendous nominees. what a wonderful group of nominees tonight. and i have to thank this magnificent team for putting blowout together, producers graham messic and sally leading this team. one of the terrible things about being a television news reporter is that you receive far too much credit for the work of others. so even though i'm the talking head accepting this award and presenting that story on "60 minutes," it is this group of people who put that magnificent piece of work together.

the country was very concerned in those days about exactly what had happened on the deepwater horizon, the worst oil spill in history. and our character, mike williams, was able to tell us is great deal about what had happened on that ship in those days leading up to the accident. so thank you very much. again, thank you, jeff bagger and thank you bill owens for your guidance and your wisdom in producing these pieces. thank you very much, everyone. thank you. [applause] >> just in time. [applause] >> the category is outstanding feature story in a news magazine and the nominees are.

>> and the emmy goes to, 60 minutes, football island, pbs. [applause] >> accepting the enemy, scott pelley. [applause] >> go! >> in america samoa, it's the pregame show. this is a high school football team warming up with the war dance, something passed down for ages to teach agility to

warriors in size and strength. it's estimated that a boy born to samoan parents is 56 times more likely to get into the nfl than any other kid in america. [applause] >> like i said, far too much credit for the work of others. i know that pete radovich who brought this story for us in 60 minutes. pete, wherever you are, thanks a million. here comes pete right now. thanks a million for that terrific story. [applause] >> another magnificent 60 minutes team on a terrific story

and a lot of fun to be an american samoa for a week. thank you, ladies and gentlemen, very much. [applause] >> the nominees for outstanding business and economic reporting in a regular-scheduled newscast are. >> and the emmy goes to sunday morning, paving the way, cbs. [applause]

>> accepting the enemy, jeff floor, a correspondent. [applause] >> there's no shiny scrimmage that you can put on a community that has endured the kind of chaos in a place it has. >> meet the mayor, john fetterman 6'8", 350 pounds. everywhere you see something growing, there were homes here. come on in and see, you know, why we are trying so hard to save as many of these structures as we can. >> he's a man whose dreams for this shattered town matches his mammoth figure. [applause] >> lauren barnel, is that you. >> i'm glad i can wait at the podium while skate waits for his next one here. i just want to thank an amazing team. rand morrison thank you so much for giving us the time to do

this story. estelle gavin, you guys were amazing throughout, an netwoexct nerc. nerves, i can't stand it and a wonderful editor, thank you, lauren. [applause] >> steel towns and the plight of steel towns is something that has meant a great deal to me since i was born, i grew up in one. i don't know if braddock is doing things the right way but i think it's cool they're trying. thank you very much. [applause] >> the nominees for outstanding editing quick turn-around.

>> any guesses? 60 minutes, haiti, cbs. [applause] >> accepting the enemy, richard buttenhagan, editor. [applause] >> forgive me, but this looks like civil war. >> it is. there's no electricity. we have flashlights that we're operating with. there's rusty instruments? . >> rusty? >> yes. >> when they arrived friday night there were no haitian doctors or nurses, just them to treat hundreds of seriously injured people. 60 minutes joined the soldiers of the 82nd airborne in one of their first missions distributing food to thousands.

>> we've done this over and over again for the next several weeks. as long as it takes, we'll do it over and over. applause >> here comes matt richmond. this is a lovely way to start a new season and a work week. stephanie, matt, dan. warren. we'd like to thank jeff and bill, michael, jenny, lagare wilkerson and for them doing this amazing job with a horrible story. thank you. [applause] >> the nominees for new approaches to news and documentary programming, current news coverage are.

>> and the emmy goes to, the "new york times," a year at war, new yorktimes.com. >> accepting the emmy, james deo, a "new york times" reporter. >> i promised everybody that i would come back and that's kind of a promise that i can't really keep 'cause i don't know what's going to go on. >> a lot of women in my shoes have left the military because they couldn't leave their kids. >> when you throw all the politics out the window and you're fighting, it's for your brother. >> i just want to be the hero.

>> my main concern is -- >> the best things in life are not supposed to be easy, i guess. [applause] >> wow, thank you. it's a great honor. we're absolutely thrilled. this first and foremost goes to the amazing team that worked with me on this. some of them are behind me here. some of them couldn't make it. they brought a very simple idea to life with great passion and great feeling and they all made it their own project. and it also goes to the soldiers of the first battalion 87th infantry who let us live with them for a year and opened up to us in amazing candor in ways we're still amazed by. quick thanks to fred burke and suzanne daily for letting us go there and spend so much time

with them. to brooke heller for putting it in the paper and for joel for understanding it in long-form journalism. and for tobaia and helen for putting up with us being gone for so long. thank you very much. [applause] >> the next category is the nominees for new approaches to news and documentary programming. the nominees are.

>> and the emmy goes to "los angeles times," caught in the crossfire, victims of gang violence, "l.a. times".com. [applause] >> i go outside and i got shot in the head. >> the only thing i could think of was that let me die right now. i have a baby inside me. >> how bad could hell me if this is what's going on, killing and raping and robbing and just -- this must be it. >> how can i ask the question why, why did you shoot -- ♪ >> recipients for this award could not be with us tonight so

the academy accepts the award on their behalf and i think i have some extra shelf space as well, in case. new approaches to news and documentary programming, arts, lifestyle and culture are. >> now, there are two recipients of this award tonight. the first emmy goes to "new york times" magazine online, 14 actors acting, "new york times".com. [applause]

>> accepting the emmy, cathy ryan, director of photography. [applause] >> okay. ♪ ♪ [applause] >> we're so honored to accept this award. i'm so grateful on behalf of the team, first of all, joanna

milter her love of knowledge of films brought so much to this. so many brilliant ideas and also our web producer, our web editor who helped bring it all together. and we're very grateful to her for the idea of bringing in owen pellet who composed the original music and to him for what he did. and, of course, to our director for his elegant direction and the lighting and everything to bring this to life. and we're very grateful to our design director at the magazine and to the editor at the launch of the project and the editor as we finished it. we are, of course, also grateful to the actors for everything they gave so generously. this was a lot of fun to do. and finally, we're so grateful to be at the "new york times," an incredible place journalistically, creatively and in every way. we just are very fortunate to do things like this so thank you so much. [applause]

>> and we have a second emmy and that goes to npr music presents project song moby, npr.org. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, bob boilin, host. ♪ ♪

>> who knew a way to get an emmy was to go into radio. but i've been in npr all things consider and all else considered and i've seen amazing changes there. and i've seen how they let creative ideas flourish and now a new media. keith jenkins our architect is out in the audience who's made new media look beautiful and work right. john pool shot it and neal, and thanks for the artists. we have a lot of them come to my desk and play and a lot of fun. and project song where we get people to write a song in two days and document it. it's been a wonderful way to see the creative process unfold. thank you, everybody. it's an honor. [applause] >> and now here to present the international emmy awards for news and current affairs is the president and ceo of the international academy of television arts and sciences,

bruce pazner. [applause] >> thank you. good evening, everyone. this is the moment in the program when we step outside the united states to celebrate achievement and the gathering and reporting of news by distinguished organizations and all the other countries of the world. as you can imagine, the craft of reporting the news is developing and expanding everywhere on earth. and the international academy is proud to recognize some of its most accomplished practitioners. the 2011 international emmy nominees come from countries as different and distant as iceland and the philippines. coverage rages from volcano eruptions and international tribunals, the war on drugs and mind disasters.

as always, the nominated programs offer unique perspectives on the events that have shaped our year and informed and influenced audiences all around the world. the nominees for the international emmy award for news are. [applause] >> ah, the emmy goes to journal

nationale, war on drugs, tv global. >> accepting the emmy, the directors of the news and sports divisions. and william bonner chief anchor of journal nationale. >> let me just say, let this be a lesson in persistence for all of us. this is the seventh straight nomination and their first win. congratulations. [speaking in native tongue] [applause] >> wow! as you can see, this is a special moment for history and for brazilian history also. and for us because this work at

this moment, the moment in which the government tried to change their approach, tried to change the method of releasing poor people from the termination of drug dealers in rio de janeiro. it was a really huge work of the police and of the journalists who, of course, we are very proud of. being here now winning for the first time this award, our seventh time here, thank you very much. [applause] >> well, congratulations again

to tv global. and now allow me to present the nominees for the international emmy award for current affairs. [applause] >> and the international emmy award for current affairs is back from the brink, inside the

chilean mine disaster nhk. [applause] >> accepting the enemy, senior producer international news features news department and the director producer international news features news department. >> wow! [applause] >> thank you very much. this is an amazing moment for us in japan, you know, we've had a

very hard year, you know, getting this prize and coming all the way from japan -- it's been really worth it. and to be in the presence of all these famous faces that we watch on cnn and all the other networks that we watch in japan, you know, it's great. you know, this story -- you guys probably covered it as well and we had a little competition we thought, you know, there's no way we're going to get this story out. but, you know, i'd like to thank first of all, everyone who formed a great relationship with the families of the miners. ..

anyway, that's what they should. [laughter] so i would like also thank all our editing staff. we broke up 10 days after the rescue. we got the video only three days before the broadcast. three days before the broadcast we are thinking oh, my god, what are we going to do? then they got this video, and i'd like to thank the editing staff who did an amazing job editing this piece in such a short time. i would also like to thank the 33 miners who were down there, through their hardship, they

taught us a lot about life and what's really important. and you know, i think what's important is, i would like to say thanks to, you know, our families and our loved ones and her friends. thank you very much. thank you. [applause] >> our next presenter is a correspondent for the cbs newsmagazine, "60 minutes," and the anchor of the cbs evening news here please welcome scott pelley. [applause] >> i love this event, and i will tell you why. yes, it is an opportunity for those people who labor in the edit rooms and slave over hot word processors of a moment in the sun, and that's a wonderful, wonderful thing. but the other reason i love this

event is because it is a reaffirmation every year that we live in a golden age of television journalism. never before have so many people in the world seem so much. never before have the people of this planet been so well-informed. never before have so many voiceless people found their voices with you. and for that reason i love this event, because again, it is a reaffirmation of the work that we do, the work that you do, all around the world. now, to honor some more of that work, let's move right into the next categories. the nominees for outstanding coverage of a breaking news story in a regularly scheduled newscast our --

>> unbelievable work, all. but the emmy goes to anderson cooper, 360. [applause] >> accepting the nominee, charlie moore, executive producer. pic with her there may be somebody buried in their -- clearly alive. finally after being trapped more than 18 hours, she is alive.

she was finally free. >> the worst devastation i've ever seen. the streets are covered with people who died in the earthquake, and there's been nobody here to recover the bodies. [applause] >> thank you so much. charlie moore has gotten shyer, our senior executive producer of 360 so he talked to me talk. my name is gary tuchman and i'm a correspondent with cnn anderson cooper 360. we're so honored by this. i want to thank everyone i work with at cnn. everyone has something to do with us on a. i want to thank our bosses who got us out the door many's after we heard about this earthquake instead spend whatever it takes to deliver a great story. i also want to thank the people of haiti. up to 300,000 people died. that's one out of every 30 haitian people who died in this earthquake. and i want to thank them for

taking us into their homes and taking us into their hearts. thank you very much for this honor. [applause] >> congratulations, one and all. the nominees for outstanding feature story in a regular scheduled newscast --

>> and the winner is bbc world news america. inside the north korean bubble. [applause] >> accepting that any, the director. >> we were invited to the celebration, but the founder of the country, is still president. the birthday is marked by a public holiday, a floral offering confusing to the outsider, even in this country often bizarre. >> i believe he is dead. does this mean you think he is a god? that he is immortal? >> yes, he is immortal. excellent father. we don't think he passed away in. [applause]

>> thank you very much. first of all i would like to thank recently departed executive producer of bbc world news america. who has been the interface between some the best international journalism of the world and our audiences in u.s. one of the few people i know who can simultaneously translate between english and american, and back again. [laughter] our colleague to produce that memorable report, can't be here tonight, is on location but she typifies the determination of her brilliance international news which we believe characterizes the men and women of bbc news. we would like to thank the judges and i would also like to thank our audiences in the united states who are watching, listening and reading bbc news in increasing numbers. thanthank you very much indeed. [applause]

>> the nominees for outstanding business reporting, long form -- >> and the winner is, p.o.v., good fortune. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, landon van soest, director.

[applause] >> well, thank you so much. it's truly unbelievable to be standing at the right now. in fact, i think it's unbelievable that anyone ever saw this work at all. so many people to thank. i have to start with the two people up here with me from my producing team, here from kenya tonight, spent countless weeks and months with me riding bicycles and local buses through rural kenya. and jeremy levine who has spent months and years in a small room of a brooklyn apartment editing this piece, and so many people that truly believe in us that

brought this in front of audiences, people that really championed independent work. the sunday institute, the fledgling fund, the park foundation and, of course, everyone at p.o.v. who saw this film and really put it out there, and not only on television but also through a lot of social outreach efforts. it's truly a dream come true, and thanks so much to everyone at the academy. [applause] >> the nominees for outstanding historical programming --

>> and the emmy goes to witness katrina, the national geographic channel. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, jon siskel, series producer. >> there is a military, massive coordinated effort to evacuate all people from the local parishes. this is no place to be now more than ever. that is if they don't get people out quickly and the water continues to rise, that there could be huge numbers of casualties. massive numbers of casualties. [applause] >> if you're coming down, call out. are you out there anywhere?

i'm sorry, coming? oh, fantastic. we will just wait here than. [laughter] here he comes. here they come. [applause] >> while. nervous and exhausted. from the run. thank you very much to the academy. on behalf of our productions and my partner, we are just very honored and we want to thank the people of new orleans, louisiana, mississippi and who provided their footage and trusted us with their story. we could not be more honored to be entrusted with telling their stories. and also, want to thank our producers, rebecca, stacy, dustin, sarah, and her editor, into the national geographic

channel, mike welsh, michael and bridget whelan. thank you very much. [applause] >> the nominees for outstanding graphic design and art direction --

>> and the emmy goes to first live with david attenborough, discovery channel. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, james prosser, visual effects supervisor. >> using the latest technology, it's possible to bring those animals to live for the first time in half a million years. from the moment they appeared to the time that they took their pioneering steps on land, we can deduce how animals acquired bodies, eyes saw and mouse eight. [applause] >> thank you very much. it's a great honor to receive this. really to the close collaboration with numerous scientists were allowed to

retrieve the images that we see before us today. i also want to thank david attenborough. a great thrill to work with them. his passion and interest in what we do is truly inspiring. i'd like to thank atlantic for getting the program off the ground, and for bbc and discovery for coproducing. the director and the editor. such a good collaborative relationship which allowed us to create this as well. thank you also in two especially my team who worked hard. thanks a much. [applause] >> damar at "60 minutes" will probably get a dozen pictures for ancient life forms stories that we've overlooked over these years. the nominees for outstanding light direction and scenic design --

>> and the winner is hindenburg, the untold story. the smithsonian channel. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, david boyle, executive vice president of pro coming and production, smithsonian channel. >> it's starting to rain again. the rain had slapped up a bit. look, what's that?

>> the back motors are holding a just enough to keep it -- >> is bursting into flames. >> look at that. [applause] >> congratulations. >> we shouldn't be here. really the production designer on the show and david, the remarkably talented director of photography. this is their emmy, but we do have a good reason to be here tonight. we want to thank cbs and showtime for supporting us over recent years, and in particular this is our fourth birthday. today, four years ago we launched the smithsonian channel. thank you for this prize, birthday price. thank you. [applause]

>> while most of tonight's emmy awards honor outstanding his reports or documentary films, our next two categories pay tribute to the talented men and women who work hard to convince viewers to tune in and watch them, god bless them, one and all. we now present to any awards for promotional announcements. the nominees for outstanding promotional announcement for institutions -- >> and the emmy goes to

frontline ball image campaign, times like these. that accepting the emmy, david fanning, executive producer. ♪ ♪ ♪ [applause] >> well, when i go to the part after this for all the frontline producers i'm going to say this is some solace for all of them. this is really a great tribute to missy frederick, john mcgibbon, the two of them who

labored long and hard in frontline outpost, postproduction, and to do such terrific work. on the half of them and all of hard-working people who put the broadcast out every week, thank you very, very much. [applause] >> the nominees for outstanding promotional announcement, episodic -- >> and the emmy goes to cnbc original, trash incorporated, garbage ballet, cnbc. [applause] >> accepting the emmy, bill

imboden, writer/producer. >> i want to say thank you very much for including us in your party. i know a lot of times we are the people that are knocking on your doors asking you for things, and you know what, it's great to be nominated and it's great to be recognized. i'm sure i speak for all of the promo producers for all of, you know, the networks, it's really great. i want to thank mark kaufman at

cnbc for generating and environment that allows for creativity. tom, frank, and my wife, and thanks very much. goodnight. [applause] >> and now come here to present tonight's lifetime achievement award is the anchor and managing editor of the "nbc nightly news," brian williams. [applause] >> thank you, and good evening. thank you. and as we consider larry king, please consider these three numbers. 25, 40, and 50,000. 25 years in that chair, four years in the business, and 50,000 images. give or take over the years.

and that's all i have. i prepared nothing. [laughter] and i came unprepared as and all mosh -- -- as and all mosh page a word i will explain to larry at the conclusion of tonight's ceremony. [laughter] >> to the man who famously and aggressively came unprepared to that table every night for a reason because as he put it, the viewers have no preinterview. they bring nothing to the table, other than wanting to hear a good story, wanting to hear someone talk. i'll put it this way, africa the first person. when i was old enough to sneak in to cbs news headquarters, the old dairy barn, at 524 west 57th street, what i wanted to see was the wall, the room where walter delivered the news every

night. that room in my world growing up of rabbit ears, pre-cable, it and a small town, well, that's when we experience the world. i wanted to see the room. i wanted to see what turned out to be a white formica u-shaped desk, and what turned out to be a kind of mint green clunky, to be honest, would cut behind him on an office wall, ditto, the first time as an older man when i was invited on larry king live. i wanted to see that wall, those colored lights, map of the world behind him. because that wall meant the world every night as we watched larry cover it. and interviewed the newsmakers. like the woodcut, it turned out to be colored lights on a black wall. and it's another lesson that things on television don't always appear in person to be the way they are on television,

except perhaps larry king. larry king told us always that he was a guy from brooklyn, who love to talk to people, and love to tell a story. that's all he ever said he was, and he remained true to his word all those years. and so, from that unlikely background came that table, america's table, the world table. he became father confessor to the planet. you wouldn't dream of making use and not follow it up with a visit to larry king. and his table. everyone visited there, the high and mighty, and the not so hot and not so mighty. and, of course, brando kissed them, but more on this. here now is a look through some of the very best of it over the years, colored lights and all. >> good evening, i'm larry king.

>> it's what i always wanted to do. i dreamed of doing. i was five years old. >> so i am living out a dream. i went down to miami and they said you a nice voice. were going to get a shot. he has "the miami herald" open. he says that's your name. >> larry king helps you do your thing. >> springfield, illinois, hello. >> las vegas, nevada, hello. >> bethesda, maryland, hello. >> give me an answer to more. >> good evening, my name is larry king and this is a premiere edition of larry king live. >> and the one thing you didn't answer, why? >> an excellent question. >> why are you not answering that question? >> it's a strange question to ask. >> no, i'm not saying that. >> why won't you talk about it?

>> cut him off. cut off during one. >> i never said a didn't like you. i said you looked like a frog. >> should i call you larry or king larry? >> larry king. >> it's strange but it's good. >> don't mess it up too much. >> larry, you're being an appropriate. >> inappropriate king leonard continues. >> bosoms and rear ends. >> i needed mercy. i needed forget this. >> god is behind. >> the greatest king ever. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> what a way to make a living? that's pretty good.

>> what is a softball question? i don't know what that is. >> are there days you question yourself? do you ever feel it's all coming in around you? >> a good question is a question to which i don't know the answer. >> what isn't like to be shot? >> i did know i was shocked. >> how did you emotionally hold up? >> i know, but how? >> i didn't interrupt you. please, let me finish. >> police believe o.j. simpson is in that car. >> how exactly did you think i killed him? >> details are still coming in about the sudden death of michael jackson. >> historic night for larry king live. >> ringo starr. >> why don't you do more interviews? >> nobody invites me. >> i think you, for instance, obviously ve