i want to just wind up by sharing with you the story of one young man who was born the year of the fort william henry massacre, 1757 in new haven, conn. the young man joined the connecticut regiment two weeks after the fighting begins at marches off with daniel bursters regiment to lay siege to the british craft inside boston.pí he spends the summer helping to build the american fortifications around boston and when the drum is be to recruit men to follow benedict arnold on a crazy march through the1t wilderness he signs up for that effort and marches to lay siege. that invasion of canada, as elliot has hinted -- i don't

want to give away the whole book -- but that the american invasion of canada was an abject failure. hhw!g0í benjamin warner tells us in that note this knapsack i

carried through the war is the revolution to achieve american independence. i transmit it to my oldest son benjamin warner junior. the direction to keep it and transmits it to his oldest son and so on, to the latest austerity. one shred of it will remain never surrender your liberty through a foreign invader. benjamin warner lived another nine years and was buried in ticonderoga and he has a simple ry soldier and a friend of slaves. those are the stories and one is telling in this grand book. thank you. [applause]

>> thank you. those were such interesting comments on the book. let me go to tom. my oldest son and i, he is a veteran, were in a discussion about veterans day and what should be the meaning of veterans day. today's veterans. and i felt at least -- the point at, memorial day people -- veterans day beat the presumably who didn't fall in battle. and the conclusion i came to after quite an interesting discussion is what veterans day should be about is not just veterans -- it should be about that -- it should be about all.

if it were not for the willingness of the benjamin warners to go and fight and go home and come back we wouldn't be here today. to respond to tom's question to me, is the american response to the war on terror something that we talk about in the book? it is. a number of ways. i will try to mentioned some of them. the first actually keys off of nick's earlier description of champlain's famous battles with the iroquois. when you read the account of that you realize it is not so much that champlain is accurate. it is the indians who are the actors and the indians are manipulating him and using him as much as he is using them and one of the interesting things about contemporary history about native americans is -- makes it

clear they were in some very important ways actors and not simply victims. in a similar way as we think about different adventures this country has been on in the last ten years it is really important to remember we may think we are moving the chess pieces around the chessboard. actually we are really powerful piece often being moved around there chessboard. so i think there is a similarity there. the second thing. one of the underlying themes of the book, the book has the first two fifth to half about the contest with french canada. from the schenectady massacre through the seven years war. one of the points i make is the french -- this question of why is french canada -- 80,000 people -- able to hang on against these english colonies

which have over a million? their number reasons for that. one of them is the french were so much better at dealing with it. so much better understanding of indian culture and ability to work with indian culture, cultural context. but what you eat eventually got on the side of the english and the americans was a good enough ability to deal with the indians. i would say that is where we are. not as if we naturally have rapport with the locals but by dint of a lot of effort, in a lot of ways we can do well enough. a third thought, it seems to me that the book talks about a number of different dimensions some of which are essentially it regular in nature.

you mentioned roger's action at the battle of snowshoes was a discourage--a bloody little fight which takes place on snowshoes and is a disaster for rogers and his men but also talks about things which are pro industrial warfare as when benedict arnold killed -- the southern end of lake champlain in 1776 and this is repeated later on in 1814 when the united states navy build a more substantial flotilla on lake champlain and completely defeats slightly superior will navy on lake champlain. one of the things the book brings out is i hope multiplicity of that. that remains a true thing. even as we're doing all the things we have done in iraq and afghanistan we are also getting ready for much larger more

dimensional kinds of forces. >> we actually have a little time of -- because of the efficiency of the panel. we might take a couple questions from the audience if there are such. >> eliot, i would be interested in -- [inaudible] [laughter] >> we would have to go through an institutional review board at johns hopkins university, cable for the medical school would be passing on whether i could use human subjects. >> what are the -- were there archival materials? >> no. as i said it is a real book. ft notes, foreign-languages and everything. in washington that sometimes

means the same thing. , very much tried to use primary sources. not entirely but one of the joys of this book, and thing that is very scary is different pieces have been the subject of fabulous historians over the last century plus. what on earth are you doing on their turf? there are wonderful historians and wonderful histories and i drew on that but i try wherever possible to use documentary collections. for a book like that you don't go to a single archive. there are different collections of documents published at different times. massive documentary collection, documents in colonial history in the state of new york to the nineteenth century, similar set

of collections used by all students of the american revolution, american archives which cover 1774-76. thank goodness the lot of that stuff is on the web so you can tap it there. can there's other stuff here and there. it is -- requires a more -- not scattershot but you're going lots of different places. there is no central repository that you can go to but there are some quite wonderful documentary collections. the same way you look at the ground. the ground never look the way. when you look at the documents they reveal a slightly different world than the books would have you think. the most notable case, one of my

favorites sessions -- i do my level best to rehabilitate his reputation. my former colleagues in government are rolling their eyes and shaking their heads as i say that but one of the things that strikes you is when you read his correspondence during the 76-77 campaign and read his letters all that you see is a shrewd commander and a truly gallant patriot which makes the puzzle of his treason even greater. it really hits you when you see these letters. even with the benefit of hindsight you feel it couldn't really be improved upon. his assessment of the situation. his recommendation on what ought to be done and so on. it is very much--including french documents. >> way in the back. >> eliot, what impression did

you come away with about george washington as a military commander and strategist? >> good. glad you asked that. george washington. there are two chapters about conflict that never happened. i think this is one of the ways in which having been in government perfected how i wrote the book because one of the things i took away from my own government experience is a very powerful sense of the reality of things that happen -- don't happen. as strange as that may sound. one of the things that don't happen is in the chapter called champlain's campaign deals with two things. one was an effort to make vermont and independent republic under british protection. there were a series of negotiations conducted by ethan

allen. not the furniture company. be rather outside speaker from vermont history. which take place in 1780-1780 one. there is a fantastic intelligence story in all this which is in the chapter. the americans get wind of this because it is all over vermont. it is reported back and washington is brought into this and he writes a letter to the governor of vermont who is ferry much part of these negotiations. and the letter reads like something out of -- i hate to say it -- michael corleone. it would be a truly awful thing if all of the state had to turn on one of their brothers because that would be the order grew and of that state.

[laughter] that is all he had to say. other than that we are with the united states of america. the other one is -- the other phantom campaign takes place before that and that is the second invasion of canada. first invasion failed in 76 for a variety of reasons. there was an idea about one in 78 which was a really serious consideration. the second invasion in seventeen 79 was the idea that a french fleet would sail up the st. lawrence and attack quebec and an american army led by marquis they lafayette's on the warpath and benjamin franklin was really keen on this. the continental congress was really keen on this. and lafayette, this was his -- at the end of his life he said this -- i regret i didn't get to

bring canada into the united states of america by the force of french arms. french aristocratic stuff. the story there is how washington really does him in. and he's very quietly goes behind his back to the president of the continental congress. the congress is really enthusiastic and he finally goes up and says let me tell you that you cannot trust the french. even if they act with the genuine intention of turning canada over to us once you have a french fleet and a french army of you will change. by the way lafayette says his idea -- i am not so sure. and then he encourages the marquee to take a long overdue leave to go back to paris.

lafayette never does this. he had no idea is good buddy george washington, who really put the car barge on this project of his. washington being washington had devious side but he used this for information purposes and deception purposes against the british so he put the word out that this was going to happen. to divert british forces and can't do any damage and the markey called for it so washington is -- washington who did not visit the warpath until after the revolution is actually -- nick just whispered to me when he was shopping for property. actually had a direct influence on what happened. >> another question?

>> congratulations. we are all basking in your halo tonight. question on the international partners you just spoke of. you will be going -- be in britain or maybe in france as well. i wanted to know what you expect your most knowledgeable french/british and canadian readers, how do you expect them to react? and second, only you would be able to figure out so quickly, utah degeneration of students about how difficult the alliance wars are. is there anything in this book that you think would have helped when the allies were struggling their way around?

>> back to a trip dean cook with us in one of our annual staff rides. first of all i will do you what knowledgeable readers here and abroad say. and that is warmonger the bristol neocon, adviser to condoleezza rice advising mitt romney -- canada's ultimate enemy. [laughter] oh my god, make the stop. i think i can put that into a tweet. i expect that will be out there. is okay. if it sells the book. i hope knowledgeable readers will, from those countries, particularly canada, will feel i gave their side a fair shake.

because i really do my best to throw myself into a varied array of characters. one of the most sympathetic characters for my money is just as sure would. to you never heard of. who was one of the founders of the green mountain boys with these -- he is a vermont hero but when the revolution comes he cannot bear the idea of breaking with the monarchy. his family is persecuted and he is thrown in to what i throw the gulag of the american revolution which is in connecticut. it was like going to siberia. you were not coming back. he escaped and he becomes the head of the intelligence network that the british were running out of canada and he is conducting covert negotiations with ethan allen. i say at one point in the book he is a decent man in an in

decent business because it is skulduggery. hy portray him -- i admire the guy in many ways. i think he was a very admirable character and there were others. one of the things i hope my do is restore some interest on the part of americans and french canadians because some of these french canadian figures are just fantastic characters. they do extraordinary things. i will mention my favorite villain. according to the book. this french canadian who shows up in three of these wars. he becomes a real bogeyman, brilliant leader from different tribes but could get them to do what you want him to. may have been responsible for the fort william henry massacre. not sure what his role is. after canada and fold the

british he decides he is going to go home. he fails in a leaky old ship which catches fire three times along the st. lawrence. he gets to a crab cake ridden island and a storm blows up. the ship is racked. there are 120 people on board. all except six brown including his two sons who slipped out of his arms. six of them get to shore including the captain who is useless. he organizes these six and they bury the dead. he then built a fire. he goes into the woods and find some indians, persuades the indians to take care of these five survivors, makes himself some snow shoes and walk 1500 miles in the middle of winter. quite a guy. he then makes his peace with the

british. but when the americans in haiti offers his service to the americans. the americans don't trust him. he goes back to the british. he is with gerald burgling when he invaded and quickly -- just before saratoga, he comes -- they materializes. before saratoga. he ends up with a beautiful young wife 35 years younger than he is and the second richest man in canada dying of old age. what a guy! and other figures too. governor. row, the governor of canada during the french and indian war. rehabilitate his reputation which denounced by the french. i do my best to try to -- i, students one of the great strategic for choose -- i try to

make this book as empathetic as i possibly can. a lot of the book is about coalition warfare all vote it is more about coalition warfare between very different kinds of people and particularly the difference between indians and europeans and the americans and canadians and a lot of it is about the difficulty of really understanding how even an allied culture needs war. and what they think war is all about. so that is a good frame. >> eliot, i think i must admit something to this group. most of you know this already. i have been and and the director of canadian studies and have been 4 long time. i have to tell you that i think you're exactly correct when you say you are empathetic and fair with regard to the perspective.

one of the things i am wondering about is this. in different periods there's not a canada per se. there's a group of people living in canada who are associated with foreign policy. france or britain depending on what you are looking at. i am just wondering. have you identified since -- a sense of independence, a sense of somehow being canadian in any of these periods prior to 1865 when canada did become independent or somewhat independent? >> an interesting question. the president -- already have a sense of themselves as frenchmen. quarterly on. i think the indians--the english

who settled there don't really. i think it is the canadian story and basically true that after the war of 1812 where you do have french canadians fighting alongside english canadians, that there is a sense of canadian this. canadian independence is driven in large member by the threat of invasion. canadians are well aware of this. almost no american are have ever heard of. 1866, substantial incursion into canada by something like a thousand very mad irishman who were veterans of the union army following a plan that was devised by one of william tecumseh sherman's division commanders who was also are rich with a view of creating new hibernia. if that was a sensible strategic

notion they could come up with. as far as that crisis, part of what the canadians sense of who they are. >> we have time for one more last question right here. >> i am feeling just great actually. >> i am from pennsylvania. didn't learn anything about new england history so i'm looking forward to reading this book. i have two questions. one is was the st. lawrence river always a natural boundary between canada and the english colonies? were there ever a lot of french canadians who lived on the southern side of the st. lawrence river? where did new hampshire come

from? [laughter] >> the french settlement of canada is really a long for shores of the st. lawrence. doesn't penetrate very deeply. quite early on people trading with the indians go very far west. that is why their accounts have french names which we tend to forget. the st. lawrence was not the boundary. the boundary was sort of ill-defined. very fine american historian named allan taylor has written a lot about this middle space with people with different kinds of allegiances and loyalties. one thing i should point out, the great warpath is not really a commercial routes. a route of war share. if you are canadian looking to the west, the fur trade and so on, looking along the st.

lawrence to france. we are very much connected to -- the americans are very connected to the atlantic system. but the border land is really quite mixed and people with mixed and uncertain allegiances, another one of the colony's. interesting story is a vermont which is a test of space which is -- the long to them. the settlers of vermont many of whom are from connecticut to the connecticut river getting these grants has field operators. governor of new hampshire. that is a long and interesting story. we don't have time to do that now. i would like to make some concluding remarks if i might. this is really stupid but can i borrow a copy of the book? hy forgot to bring it up here.

i just want to say thank you. first person i would like to thank. person trying to slink out the door but don't. the students here all know sarah mccall as coordinator of strategic studies. not only did she orchestrate this whole event and make it as wonderful as she makes everything, really taken care of me for years and all the years i worked on the book. you. [applause] i want to thank all my students and research assistants who are here and all the students who cheered me on and kept asking me sometimes pointedly when this book we keep on hearing about

actually going to be done. you don't know it but you were indispensable to it in a number of ways including the experience of going on these -- one of my current research assistants said to me that it felt like going on a staff writer. that is part of the idea. we have my friends the firm ands here who were present marching for quebec through maine following benedict arnold. this experience of walking the ground with friends and students to piece out what went on was really indispensable. students went on the staff rides. you played a very large role in this as well. i want to thank my colleagues. you could not ask for better bunch of colleagues.

no one has anything to say about administrators. let me say a particular word of fakes to steve harrington because at critical juncture they gave me a break. just enough of a break from teaching to pushed this thing over the line. that was hugely important. your support and encouragement bend the world to me. what i want to do is conclude with the very last paragraph of the book. alisha point out that i have my wife judy, daughter becky, sunni and law party and daughter, nikki and granddaughter to sleep and son nathan is watching us from singapore on the live web cast. hi, nathan. here is the last paragraph of the book. a special word of thanks to whoever goes to my wife judy,

four children, and our son in law party. with them amount independence and walked the walls around the point, the bruins of fort st. john and the town square of st. albans visited william johnson's mansion in the woods and benedict arnold's headquarters in montreal. head to for william henry. snowshoed where robert rogers's men met catastrophe 250 years before. during the times i worked on this book judy and i have seen our wonderful teenagers grow to adulthood people still graduate fine institutions of higher learning, travel world, engage in public service, go to war and return from it, merry and begin having children of their own. their spirit of adventure with love and good future have inspired and enjoy their company with not the least of this arthur's pleasure. with their kindness, patience

and wise mother's permission by thank you. undergraduate students. [inaudible conversations] >> you are watching booktv c-span2. forty-eight hours of nonfiction authors and books every weekend.

>> could you give us kind of an epidemiology for people who may not know the blow by blow of con sicker? you did talk about it showing up -- john talked about it. sort of describe the beast here. >> the worm its self popped up and so forth, they honeypot. it was on his monitor. what happens is when a new piece of malware gets into his safe aide line will pop up on his monitor and all these readouts defining what this is. one of which is a column which indicates how well recognized that this virus is to the major anti virus industry and the vendors and this one was recognized by none. that is the first thing that got his attention. the next thing is it was replicating so rapidly that within 24 hours it was shoving

every other piece of malware out. the only read out on his screen were consector. i had nothing else to work on at this point. what they discovered when they began to dissect it was it was a sophisticated piece of malware. hi lee encrypted. one of the things it did was check to see if the computer it was about to in fact had a ukrainian keyboard and it would self-destruct if the computer did. basically what a worm like this does is penetrate to the core of your operating system and replicate itself, send out and in fact every other computer on your network and began calling in remote controller. the remote controller, the way you ordinarily kill his job profits head if you can intercept the communication you can kill the -- to prevent that

the worm had an algorithm that generated randomly 250 new domains every day so the bottom master had to be behind only one of 250 doors on a given day whereas if you want to cut this thing off you had to shut down all 250 domain's every single day forever. those that was one example of beacon in nature of this thing. rick who might be here tonight, t j mentioned a moment ago, began buying those domains and putting them on his credit card which gives you a sense of how at hawk this effort was to try to stop it. >> before we go farther down the path of the worm's evolution i just want to get back to that question of what kind of straits we are in. the question for t. j. r have a very old e-mail address and a filter in front of it.

>> what is that? [laughter] >> most of the people here -- >> since most malware is distributed by buttons -- in the form of -- the level of spam is a rough correlation to the level of malware infection. so i remember a year ago a large net was taken down and for a while spam still lost but i have to say that if i look historically at the number of spam messages posted every day looks like it is probably 10% to 20% worse than it was before it happened. a good indicator of the -- it is a prospective situation. the operation referred to -- we

kind of sit back and laugh at the reports that were coming in. when is 0 attack on span. one was 5% and one was 10% and one was 30%. what is the real number? we determined it was a prospective things so we called our friends have hot mail and said it would do anything good for you guys? we see a drop-off of spam of 0.07%. i was hoping for a bigger number. the problem is a lot of the web mail providers have these -- prevent sending spam from non known him t as. they had been blocking a lot of spam that was hit an already. we had a small impact with hot mail. with other organizations particularly private companies they saw a huge dropoff because they knew we were blocking -- gee mail does the same thing.

we talk to hot bail so they largely managed see spam issue but the thing we saw when we were watching our honeypopped it was sending out to a whole bunch of different domains. we definitely saw how mail and spam leave but that would never make it into an in box because of the filter in on our side. i don't know what the real number is. when we start to look at these things and going back to your original question i look at how many millions of my customers are being impacted by this malware because running through stock is running for something else based on our testing. we look at it a little differently. spam gives us a call to sit in a courtroom and say they are harming us. i am looking at how many of my customers are being impacted. when we look at this stock the analysis showed it would reach to a piece of infrastructure we could track so it attempted to download a patch from download center is in a specific way so we could fingerprint that and know how many machines we were

dealing with. one of the criteria we were looking at, how many of my customers are being negative impacted by this malware. the state is not great on the internet but in the past couple years have seen a surge in internet providers and internet companies taking more of an interest knowing private companies and do more to protect folks. the dark days are behind us. [laughter] >> i need some type of wood. i think we're getting that awareness. as we start to understand there are more things we can do we and coming out of that. and the last conference we had two weeks ago -- [talking over each other] >> we are really starting to see more people talking about how we are operational.

how can my company help? how can my company take down -- i would love to c-span go away as the distribution mechanism. from a perspective there's a certain perspective that shows that might be the case. there might not be any change. we're still in the infancy so we don't know. >> this book is a whodunit accept i still feel we don't know who done it. i want to check in with you guys to see where we are? at a certain point there were a couple things that happened so take me through where the law enforcement aspect of the worm is and you guys feel you have conclusive sense of who the authors were or are? >> my suspicion, i can say with any certainty, that the of forties do know who was behind it and i suspect that the of forties do know who was behind it and i suspect that the difficulty in apprehending them has more to do with diplomacy dealing with a foreign

government, dealing with foreign laws and police agencies and it does with actually finding them. what we do know about the authors of the worm without having caught them yet is they are tremendously sophisticated programmers. the reason i use the word plural is it is almost certainly not one person because worm demonstrated such a high level of profiwith fency in so many different areas that it literally is impossible to imagine that one person would have that level of ability and knowledge in so many areas at the same time. so the likely culprit is a s theoup, well funded, probably funded by an organized crime syndicate who set out to blyeat a very large, very stable body which could be used as a platform for all manner of mischief, a money-making platform. >> if you look at your

vindications of how consector was leveraged, strong size to fake anti virus and some t vie f the chilean program. the keyboard check is really interesting because nobody wants to be arrested by local authorities for compromising machines in their country. really looking towards eastern europe to find out what that looks like. it is one of those really interesting -- we reefer of the case to the fbi early on. they have been working the case fowhicquite some time. they are working hard on it but i don't hto te a picture of the guy. >> you can watch this and other progntims online at booktv.org. >> because i didn't speak and i did give a window into my life i hto te become an evil carton. didn't help myself wearing a hat

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correct? >> exactly. he was seeing the chair of the security coung wil for the cart administration. >> when you pick the books to go in these display cases--who carries this? >> several of my colleagwer s i the spewith fal collection data archive. they made the selection to be highlighted and the annotations on each of the displayed items and they chose to select a question and have sunni televised program by brian lamb and produced the answewhicprov d by the author to that question. >> in the ben fntinklin book yo see a lot of notes taken while

reading the book. when you put these books in the cases did you look for ferrying points of u.s. c-span does in general? >> exactly so. as i mentioned one of the blyiter cor was to de powect the broad perspective in book notes. that is erigctly the point. that our various subjects cover in the 801 books. southern lee many l sints of vis from political perspective for social perspective and humanistic perspective. all kind of perspective. >> is this archive available for ticholars? >> it is beginning to become angs lit cataloguing the collections. we are 40% through it at this

point. for the titles. they are angs student faculty membewhicat the university and of course this information is accessit ãorhrough the world wide web to scholars. >> in the united states and abroad. you will be putting on the george mason website? >> mse t definitely. >> we have seen some of the books that are on displplo here but you got posters throughout the libraogu here and i want to start with that one. what we look at here. >> this piece of paper. ãoro one is a p goe from a writ pad that has brian lamb's notes about the boosit i hto te an envelope from a bil.

looks like the horizoopl has not made additional notes. including some personal information. inatrick henogu in ariples, floa i understand the. i understand henry, it was the first person emplota d professionally in a professional capacity. tio it shows that brian lamb contained relationships throughout his life with his early mentors. >> let's continue. look at the full collection if we could. we have posters throughout. d o the purl sse of the pse ters to connect this part of the exhibit. which is the third gilding.

or true free display cases containing the collection. in this particular case it is not just the books but we also have what we consider an artifact or archive part of the collection which is relating to the book of cornell west and it is john cold frame --coltrane's music, part of the -- >> all the books have notes such

as this one? >> it varies. i understand from brian or originally he was not making an notations within books themselves. he was making notes separately. he has retained some of those notes but not all of them. later on as the program progressed he had been making notes in the books themselves. >> in the long term, will that include fade being open as it is now? to the air and the light? >> all physical materials over time deteriorated. however we in libraries especially in special collections and archives, we have special environmental

conditions to preserve paper and anything that is on paper. under proper care, this writing is left -- this particular book can't only be used on site in the reading room of special collections, archives to which we are going later. however, we have other copies available in the general collection. all the libraries are available for circulation. >> more notes from one of the books. why did this one get blown up. what was special about this one? >> we understand paul farrow is one of the favorite authors of brian. as you can see from this blow up

note, he really became interested in this particular book. that is why we chose it. because of all the significant to the arthur. >> you have a letter to brian from betty. >> exactly. recommending that the book be considered for book notes. alisha point out the late prof. who was a professor here at george mason university, in fact in this case contains another book by a mason prof. which is -- say cheese. which by the way is the only fiction book to be highlighted in the book notes program. >> here are the rest of the books. correct? >> exactly. these books are shelved in the

older. they were in brian lamb's office and also in the order of the televised programs. >> beginning here. except for the ones that are taken out -- [talking over each other] >> the exhibit volumes belong in this a range of. >> these of the books in order. >> correct. >> were you a book notes -- >> i was a regular book notes fewer. when brian lamb announced on air that the program was coming to an end, made a mental note the next day i needed to look into the matter of whether we could obtain the collection and the associated archive from the

c-span organization. soon after, we made contact with mr. brian lamb. we visited him. we presented three separate proposals from 2005 until 2010. in the end we convinced brian is that george mason university would be a good home for the collection. but more importantly, he was impressed with what we were planning to do with the collection. this collection is going to be aggravated with teaching and learning activities for the university.

we will be working with several academic departments to make sure this material is innovated into appropriate courses. that the undergraduate and graduate level, so that our students have access to primary search materials as they study and explore the subject areas and are engaged with. >> for more information on the book notes collection visit the george mason university library web site at library.g amu.edu. >> the redesigned book notes web site features 800 notable nonfiction authors interviewed about their books. you can view all the programs and seek transcripted use the searchable database and find links to the authors blogs and twitter feeds. booknotes.org. helpful research tool and a great way to watch and enjoy the authors and their books.

>> now joining us on booktv is ronald kessler. his most recent book "the secrets of the fbi". you have done a whole series of books along this line. correct? >> i like to go after secret. there are a lot of secrets in the society because that was a midlife crisis. people especially with the internet and tv went to get new information about important subjects. that is what i try to do with these books. >> what are two things that are revealed in this book that we should know about? >> one is how the fbi breaks into homes to plant bugging devices. it is quarter authorized and incredible stories before they do a break in. they figure out who goes in and who goes out. the night of the break-in they watch everyone at their homes, go back to the premise and they

will divert them. they will again give them a ticket and even take a photo of any dog that might be on the premise and show it to a veterinarian under contract and the veterinarian will prescribe the right amount of tranquilizer to shoot the dog before the break in and at the end they break up -- wake up the dog. another item is the real story of how the fbi got robert hansen who was the fbi agent--quite different from what you see in the movie reach. or real story. there are a lot of secrets about marilyn monroe and vince foster and even the killing of osama bin laden because the fbi was involved in that. >> you have a lot of inside sources. do you get pressure in any way

to reveal those forces? pressured to reveal those forces? >> no i don't. people ask me how i get them to talk. usually i water board them. but i think after a while you develop some trust. they feel i will tell an honest story. at the same time if there's something negative i will forward that. one of my books has the dismissal of william sessions as fbi director over his abuses and this book takes louie free to task even worse than sessions. at the same time when they do something right i say that. that is why we have not been attacked since 9/11. the fbi rolled up terrorists. it is the myth that the fbi cannot function as an intelligence agency that develops clues and leads to future plots. that is now the main area of the