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has devastating consequences for the president's legislative agenda. it's all in jeopardy now and you know she has two issues with her husband's team. one is that you know she doesn't understand how they could have let this happen, how they could've sort of dropped the ball and a way but the other issue which is so, it's more interesting, goes i think to the heart of the role she plays in the presidency is that she has always had this idea that her husband is going to be a transformative president, right? ..
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odyssey in los angeles for the last 23 years and i figured before i hit 60 while i stillá have the memories of a better pull them out to put them down.:(2 i am 55 now i am not sure that i could do it in another 10 years. there is another incident of that is to be off to made me write the book. there was a journalist who took me to lunch and i did not have a lot of patience for her and she was frivolous to me she wasá : á me the barbie doll not the investigative journalist so i really did not want to go to lunch with her but i went price started to talk about the kids who live baying in the jordan downs housing project and i wanted her to focus on my client and for her to understand the reason i went to what every day is because i was winning in the
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courtroom but my clients were losing their lives. while i was having great success as a lawyer i was doing nothing to change the ecosystem that they were dying in. i wanted heard to focus on that but instead she said that is so boring. i want to know how you win condoleezza rice got so different. [laughter] poverty is so boring? i was livid. i had to bite a hole in my lap band count to 10 so i did not slapper and be arrested for assault and battery price said that isá@ not what i am here to talk about. i will talk about myself. i boring. and the realize that we, progressives who think like the quakers or martin
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luther king, jr. who think like a great progressive and humanist who not think like all ayn rand lourdes selfishness and greed that actually think about community to help people, data won't help themselves. for people like us we have allowed ourselves to we race. we're not even in the discussion. they left donatella it is like a bird with a of right-wing. [laughter] we allow the debates to go on and the debates so my clients are out of the pitcher 99 counted in the senses or even in the unemployment statistics. i wrote this book to explain
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barbara bush my tin can of a civic them lowered dented it is the more it is worth when it is stolen. and i keep a terrible cough. can and car and i marched in their because the family is moving into the american fabric housing project. five the generations of public housing nobody has ever worked provide estimated the unemployed rate was 70% back then.
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what we face right now with our sustained recession/depression they would be throwing a party over what we suffered now. 20% unemployment would be a gift in this community because there are no jobs in the surrounding area with a vibrant working-class 127,000 jobs left that area. not even the committee# created so the whole working-class comment we did not even hold the city council meeting.. .@ we are all over it. when i went down to jordan downs, it was to learn. to learn firsthand looking.b.$ like an absolute idiot but.$.
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it to share with those needed from. us and also.$.@ because mercedes said we. . need to talk about not attacking.$ the latino families we did a lawsuit with the african american family firebombed and it was the ratio isolated minority in all of the housing projects. we always did the case to prepare the tribes so it could not be used as a racial wedge..$.@.@.$.$.b.b we need interracial harmony.$. we cannot afford the paying of one tribe against another in a city. like cars will not.b last.. .$ this book is about my. .b journey to gain land because. i had to learn both and why would s civil-rights lawyer.b.@
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go to jordan downs when it.@ is easier to stay in civil.@áb court with my sandbox?:4 i had to go to the street because the courts could not reach the safety issue. and what is the first of all, civil rights? the right to safety. if you cannot be safe and if you don't have the first of all, freedom from violence, it is not the right to free speech only this slave owning aristocrat is based on speech because they were landowning white men billion. they are among slaves and so used to be catered to they would not think about the right to shelter or the basic of all rights of the right to safety and freedom
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from violence if you don't have that you have no life. that is the bedrock of all human rights as a civil-rights lawyer the children died everyday for saying they were from the wrong neighborhood and dodged a bullet to get to school and often would not because they could not get there safely. they're word games phones and calzones in our own backyard. the richest city of the richest country on the face of the planet and 7 miles south of my office children could not walk to school they actually dodged bullets. even though the conditions there are better and we are enjoying the 50 year lows of crime reduction end the violent visible crime has been replaced by a more
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as the violence goes down the power goes up. that is what the military commanders tried to tell us. that is my odyssey to the gangland. not learning why the macho men adopt the culture that says to survive just to be a man you have to kill? it is a cult of death and i have to understand it and as a feminist this journey has been interesting i am the black murphy brown do not to be in the middle of gangsters it is a centcom when it is not dangerous but i stuck with them because as i told my feminist friends friends, i said people were stupid enough to discriminate against us because we're women they're in jail or dead you don't
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come after with men like us. we face discrimination, but they face annihilation. and my bet is a fisa with them and learned how to talk to them and they talk to me and i have to have a chance later, i would talk to the kids they looked at me in did not understand a word that i said. i should have been a white woman from pasadena they did not understand one word i said. and they would say she is white but she is down. translation, we cannot understand a thing that she says we don't know what she is talking about she looks funny and sounds funny but is here to help us so
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acceptors of a decided to call me lady lawyer in that world, it was terrific but i so appreciated me to learn enough about their world ecosystem that i could figure out how to help them in the women after they custody out really which i will not say because it is taped for television but they called the everything but ed child of god and as they should have how do you come down here. you have left us in the shooting gallery i have to put my grand child to a bet in a bathtub because the bullets come to the dry wall and my older kids sleep on the floor and you come down here and ask us to treat latinos with dignity? a lot. >> i will still asking that
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you are right. we have abandoned you and you should be angry but then another woman said just help our men stop the killing and that is what launched me on my journey. the other part of the journey is the lapd we will open for questions afterwards, with the lapd it is a shotgun marriage price by sued the sheriff with a gaggle of great lawyers from the aclu and we had 47 lawyers and we woke up every day every 10 hours in the shower of mistaking of a new way to suit the lapd. we were at war. everything we could think of we did and we actually
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represented the cops to find out you could actually infiltrate the police department and that is a great part of what i learn. you can win and court to but until they change their thinking, you cannot leave the lapd just give up because i would not go away and did use to people long enough it is like a shotgun marriage they still attached and they cannot get rid of you because you have to do what she says and it ends up the a shotgun marriage and then we looked at each other and said i was not there for many. -- money because without a great police force you cannot keep people say. having run with a gain for 15 years i know what they
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are capable of also brutal police and you have to get their brutality out of the culture. i ended up walking with the police and after the door was open to and i could go inside once i was there with the chief chief parker was the first transformative sheath that he began the end of the lapd imperial coulter unaccountable to anybody in this city council held all the power politicians were terrified of the lapd. has that changed completely? no. but the fact that my first book party was given by the chief and they were in line up around the building we
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down of justice? >> we are facing devastating cuts i don't know how they will make another billion dollars in cuts back all the progress we made with school class size is gone. we're losing librarians this is the only place they get health care. distribution of public wealth is skewed. we have the money. any state that spends a billion dollars of plastic surgery has money. we spend more on tanning salons and libraries and what margin the 13 calls a revelation of value -- martin luther kane calls a revolution of
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value, and nothing permanent, as you see from the cuts in the budget now at the municipal level, we will lose almost every single game we made in education and we started down the road of wraparound care for homeless that will go buy the wayside because the funds are gone. almost every substantive area to put a floor under extreme poverty for the advocates and a judge is right now cannot even get to the civil class-action is. because the federal courts our impacted
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washington and want to point* the federal judges they loss staff, cut back hours and some a drug prostitutions you cannot get to the civil case is. i hear from the judges of the time. do we wind a functioning democracy are not? if it holds the california dream? and then to decide they do look like us so we don't give them the dream? we just want to invest for about that is the debate nationally and in california and tell jerry brown. don't give the bait-and-switch initiative if that is where you already made eddy with the correct shin guards we will not allow the jail building money to go from the state to l.a. county to lock up
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more people. instead of getting 10,000 more sheriff's deputies we need to not build a new jail but a rehabilitation center. higher 10,000 mental-health companies we lock up the port and the drug addicts because we don't take care of them. half the jail does not have to be built. and not talking about violent criminals but 50 percent of people who are in the massive perspiration in jail straining our coffers by the way and justice kennedy in the present overcrowding case this is how he described the crime-fighting enterprising california. >> california state prison and system is a
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criminogenic. because what that means is we are so stock on stupid with our punishment we actually create more crime. that is what it means. when a criminal justice system that makes us safer to create more by nine people because they are going to prison but we should not be brutalizing people but make them safer. you should make them safer to come back for the community but because they don't come back we don't care. the bottom line to me the greatest defaults in this regressive movement i don't call it conservatism we destroy what it took 100 years to build a. if our voices don't get loud, really loud this is not quite loud enough if we
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don't get really loud you know, something rugged individualism is great but those people who are billionaires and millionaires have nothing against wealth that they would not make that in china or brazil. they made it here because we made it together as a culture 1/8 society. they bought the system increase but we will fix that. we have a captured republic right now and they are selling off on the idea to create progress. the of the musky m&a jackie robinson and the suffragist. it takes all of us together
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this single amount of progress together. then not until the federal government decided the land of the native americans a and i am 1/3 native american and but i am also you probably couldn't negotiated treaty and assign my own reparations check. [laughter] iaconelli has been created in the united states i am delighted buy it. i am what i am and i am not apologizing but the bottom line is there isn't anybody from ayn rand or i am the individual parts of the biggest takers are my
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friends in the financial sector. we need to pipe up loud and strong. the cuts are unacceptable. we don't need to ride the bullet train my kids are still dodging bullets and let jerry brown know we're not doing this. if you cannot create the basic safety for all children to learn and thrive, no matter what station airborne, that is the minimum. i am just talking about a safe enough for kids to walk to school not encounter a gain in the bathroom and learn without posttraumatic stress and for them to walk home without getting shot. i don't think that is a lot to ask. i see capitalism create more wealth for poor people not
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talk about going to communism but keep being the social compact that every kid will get of fair shot. what margin is decaying is talking about to sorry to give such a long answer. the cuts are devastating we don't respond in the right way. and right now the democrats and republicans are in charge and sincere voted for that you cannot take this out on the poor people. you do not need to take measures to take care from the elderly sick and still keep the young. we will have to get radical. another five years i will be 60 but we're not a spring chicken is that we do have a voice. they are afraid of older people.
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who is next? i have a question about one of the last thing as you said in your remarks which had to do not having to sue the police? were you saying that the culture is now in the lapd? or there are better tactics to police in the city? >> both better tactics and the beginning of a cultural change. the leadership has changed. and i am not saying the old guard is sergeant on graveyard shift who always does thumbs down on any change came up the old way. not him but we have had two chiefs in a row and chief
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back is the prince of the lapd has to be the chief. and exploring to help them change which is also in the buck when he gave me that portfolio he wanted to keep read too busy to sue him. he was right. i went on 18 months talking tour with the police. we listening and i interrupted rate and and saying god they thought girls could only be secretary so kathleen had to take typing third grade through 12th grade and she typed and did transcription if you go into our room with a tape recorder people will talk if you have a computer to take denotes, we have verbatim quotes from over 700 copps. it is a compendium, of a window into the soul.
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it was like a frank discussion to say things like i am not sure we want to change we may need to be brutal to hold on two our identity. we don't know when we are lying anymore tudors line but u.s. it is the bible. i would never get these quotes and they were begging for help and said help us change. and how if we extend a hand to the community that they will turn on us. a to keep them sustained a end to press and not about providing a safety. i kept saying it is the process to hand down to keep the slave on the plantation.
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and get a grip you came from a slave plantations and. get a grip. i used to live in london we will have that debates with that argument and he finally changed his mind when i took him to the plate -- slave artifact badge they looked exactly the same but then he bought several and stop arguing. but the bottom line will be right now for us because we have a cataclysmic historic debate through a stupid tv station and a debating season in the republican primary fell looks like a mean clough darfur govett is not a way to have the debate.
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we have to get more organized and maybe i have to get out there to start talking. i told condi to doing a joint to our hard to debate the issues of keeping society intact. but that is not necessary. that would be stupid. >> could you talk about the realignment from the state to the county and if there is any opportunities to reduce recidivism? >> and the realignment present opportunities? tsa can. and investing so haphazardly but to antioch the state prisons and closing of the
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juvenile state prisons to send the kids back down to where they came from in in no lot of ways i a agree with the idea to bring there re close third echlin glittery would not distribute public wealth very well. do it locally. we can raise a and taxer soc to build those goals. it was part of the hundred pages i originally wrote know at 300 pages. how we built the schools on time and on budget. to change the culture of contract a we could change that culture of incarceration to do what it is supposed to do to spend a billion dollars on state correction but reproduce criminals if
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you have the two-thirds recidivism rate, that is an f grade. failed. wasting $8 billion of my money i want to see results and people who come out to. some will recidivate. about 5% and he has to say imprison it is a serial killer but not the million people that we have. it is ridiculous. the realignment allows us the male prisoners stay there so they could be near their kids. we know through female policy studies there nothing like the male prisoners zero may's 0.1% really need to be incarcerated. men are a problem. you have to figure out how to assess them and they used
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to fill out exit interviews to say i need job training coming illiterate, drug treatment then you take those interviews are not even taken any more. we have to assess the need of the prisoners and if to put them not but harm to other people that is not a reasonable expectation we need to be creating. not just a day reporting centers from women but those that are designed for hof e-mails get rehabilitated. the policies of the jail because we created the be down culture that you read about in the "l.a. times" required of the share of but he is not running his department the right way. miss it of reconstructed
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instead of putting another 10,000 copps we need 10,000 mental health experts the mental health treatment they don't know what to do. we have sick and is seen people on the presidency and they end up coming out more insane, a crime of gen nec. also crazy creating more and more insanity. if we tell the supervisors to get a clue that is difficult even though most are friends if those could get together to have a safety net, $24 billion of our money, say that again for the county of los angeles have $24 billion and
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we can not seem to bring coherent accepted program. we have to give a designed and arm of the mental health people that are like-- weaken the political system to demand note you cannot what you have to build as a rehabilitation center for the criminally convicted. you cannot have 2/3 recidivism rate. a setting up panels of experts psychiatrist and criminologist and there are some brilliant people who knows what needs to be done but they cannot get into the political system because the system lonesome politicians. if we don't get the money
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out of politics to understand they are there to serve long term problems the people who used to serve our long-term problem, but pat brown never could have gotten elected ronald reagan could not. but conservative or whatever or libertarian or whatever party come and nobody is serving the long-term problems. the politics of solution my journey a is how i took everybody that i sued to make them ally and we salt partially through private sector and civics sector allies we got the military and the cops to create an army of allies who were
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about the business of making life better for those kids. that is the next book. with the lapd from whom i learn on the streets and it melding them, believe me we ran that gang academy antonio villaraigosa you may not like what he says but he is stuck with the issues and he made this city create the first game intervention academy. and the bottom line is these are ex gangsters teaching and they did not make it through seventh grade but they are teaching in this academy because they know how to go from a predator to a peacemaker and can stop the bullets. guess where they are teaching now? was angeles police
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department academy prep of that is what this book is about. not about smaller government or drowning in the bathtub lower the 1,000 points of light to the thousand planes of flights are wonderful. this is how it is about. to take the best of the entrepreneurial culture government is the alternative to war ladies and gentlemen. if you attack it, believe me. i have sued so many politicians i cannot belong to a political party. believe me. that is my business. i have done more work with republican mayors and the
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democratic one's. i sued most of the democratic leaders. it is not like i am trying to hold government accountable make it work great. and with those k street lobbyists, they have to spend 40% of the time raising money. and the supreme court i am embarrassed to say i am a lawyer because it has done more damage to the constitutional fabric than any other institution. what with a drinking when they do some decisions united? we have to do amendments and get the money now you cannot buy a politician and. they think i am the help. [laughter] macy of black girl. [laughter] i do look innocuous.
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talked-about buying the politicians? i get it. of the good ones, i am privileged to was sent to these conversations and imf plan the wall. we have to get up off of our tough. i need to apologize for my greedy colleagues who stole the futures conveyed to it and -- drove into a ditch and we have been absolutely irresponsible and the kids looking at us who will benefit from the dream act, lemme tell you something this his said
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is a latino region we are tied to mexico and if we don't help our sister state get back on her feet again we will not make it too because the future of l.a. the future of blessing angeles, the future is tied to the underground but to the invisible allied. the threat of everybody dying young of the cartel takes over the vulnerable population, that is where they will go. they will slowly take over more and more institutions
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we could lose our constitutional democracy faster than you think if you allow them to fester in the gaming zones and don't the when there with a smart progressive policy and lock them up and go to war, when general mcchrystal tells me is shock and odd did not work. it was did the wells and build the schools that was working. they could not do that in afghanistan but we had hear or we will lose our constitutional democracy. that is what i learned in my odyssey of the gang land into cropland. that is what i learned from harry belafonte take gains
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the baton from him he still has another half allaying to go but my grandmother said it is a relay and it is long. my grandmother said i don't care how backwards you think you're going because but we will never go back to the days to sit in the dark at 10:00 at night through 4:00 in the morning to hide the men and get the rifles to wait for the klan to come. you will never have to do that and that is progress and it could only happen in this great country. >> the links to those fans for being here to the lady lawyers to all of those who
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incarcerated, i think zero but my big question right now is we may be a bit overwhelmed with what we heard tonight but what is the best way to do? other than by your book? what is the best thing to do? >> please buy my book or i will be on skid row. i did not make any money doing litigation. keep your eye and how this happens and make sure the supervisors no to organize your neighborhood to say you want the money to be used in a different way. you do not want to go to the
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corrections you and good to rebuild the rehabilitation center and rehabilitation services. we have got to organize ourselves to demand that the funding of the schools is reversed. that means getting too cheery brown. the governor thinks his budget makes sense and he wants to go out with the legacy like his dad. but you don't get to do a bullet train and when you take her away from the elderly. not cutting services and then you don't have to fire for the elderly corporal there are groups and sacramento doing the lobby.
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and the mayor could get his voice louder. they will not let them get a new office? there will not be one if you balance the budget off of our kids. we have to get more vocal. i am glad occupy a it did what it did because it talks about the disparity and the wealth gap. yes we have to take care of the deficit but you don't wanna waters strike when the health is on fire. you douse the fire then you do your water conservation. the priorities are skewed because it as a weapon of destruction. beds the fact that the kids
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have to get pneumonia by staying outside intents tells you how effective we have 10. and then to read and intelligent. some of you marched. we have got to get organized. the unions have not asked for the right stuff and cutting their own throats. mickey them so is indispensable. you cannot reach them but the police union you begin to reach for you cannot keep excusing the ineffectiveness of how you teach. those days are over.
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i will sue anybody who was then the way of kids-- kids getting and away. in the mta case i assume the naacp was working for them and i sued our board members. do not get an i.r.a.. i don't know how to spoon feed this. most of us are still okay and on our way to owning hour own home and most to the thought there was the king in two rovell properly and it is a broker fee and
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she is probably put on restriction for not doing homework. if we don't stand up for the safety of our kids and their own backyard we have a child soldiers and los angeles i met to a nine year-old assassin. and nine year-old assassin because the monsters who corrupted him could send him out to do the killing any he would not get as that of a sentence. but they killed the child just like they do on the congo and in bosnia. they make child soldiers. we have them and los angeles. slavery and los angeles and if we don't begin to understand invisible los angeles we cannot help those people with the human sex trafficking.
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i am tired of doing this i need the public to understand it is not overwhelming. and now turning to the $24 billion now the county is overwhelming but you could still climb kilimanjaro but i don't get overwhelmed by the size of the problem i don't look at it that way. and i don't know how to do the viral stuff.
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i will type on a computer but i am understand the power of technology. it is like google and it is the best thing in the country but might urban peace team, they have to go out to the game shooting, they have to manage the county agency we don't even have the power of the lawsuits we have to give the politicians and barrett -- bureaucrats to do without a lawsuit. that is still. but you cannot be afraid of this. it does mean lobbying. it means getting the agenda together and i will post an action agenda but specific
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bills to argue for in things to ask for at the county level that is where the safety net and realignments and devilish and from sacramento down to l.a. county gets the money. those supervisors did not have enough knowledge. we have to help them. back the rehabilitation center. of i am a lone wolf i don't have congregations our constituencies and lawyers our own a great and part of why the democrats are not very effective is there is no voice our grass roots
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movement and without that demand power can seize. nothing. [applause] >> eighth saying that some could help? [laughter] >> my law partner without whom in my other law partner could not keep in the trains running on time. in the fight over how to raise taxes. to demand the politicians and calling it the education bill into stuck good deal with the seiu to make sure
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