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the first and second industrial revolution based on elite energy had to scale vertically top down. because the energies were elite they require huge financial capital investment and large banking institutions. it also required all the businesses that sell off that elite energy had to scale in big giant factories chart logistics, transport networks. it all scaled top down centrally. the third industrial revolution scale is a lateral. it will come in know to be. as each city lays out these five pillars for this infrastructure committee, what do they want to do? they want to connect to the next and the next and the next, just like wi-fi. the nodes connect across continents. third industrial revolution skills latterly and it wants to an uninhabited until reaches oceans edge. it favors the small and midsize enterprise. it favors the small and medium
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sized emphasizes. lateral power sounds like an oxymoron. we think of power top down. but side by side power now we are seeing on the internet has far greater potential and we've only begun this process when the internet joints with distributed energy. this revolution is a thousand times more powerful than what we've experienced with the internet alone. >> you can watch this and other programs on line at booktv.org. >> civil rights attorney connie rice recounts her life and limb career next on booktv. ms. rice second cousin of former secretary of state condoleezza rice, recalls her upbringing and education as well as her numerous court cases which include legal actions against the los angeles police department and the city's bus in school systems.íb this is a little over an hour.
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>> it is a great pleasure to be year and a privilege to address you tonight. thank you for coming out. and i have been in l.a. for about the last 20, 23 years.: : i figured before i hit 60 i: : : á better, while it's up the:(: á : á(: á memories, i better pull some of: :( them out and put them down.: 2 á i'm 55 now and i wasn't sure that it would be able to do it: : á á in another 10 years. there was: another incident thatá kind of pissed me off and made: : : me write this book.:(á : : there was a journalist. she took me to: lunch.:( i didn't have a lot of patienceá for her.: á á : she seemed more in the barbie: : á á doll mode of journalists. not through investigative journalist that i grew up with. áb,bá@
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and instead she said oh connie poverty is so boring. you know i want to know how you and condoleezza got so different. [laughter] poverty is a so boring. i had to bite a hole in my lip which i learned to do and counted in sight didn't slap her and get arrested for assault and battery. and i said that's not what i'm here to talk about. i will talk a little bit about myself. i in boring. poverty is not boring.
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try living in it. and i realized that we had allowed, we, progressive people who think like the quakers, who think like martin luther king, jr., who think like the great progressives and humanists, who think like donkey, who did not think like ayn rand, who do not think about the selfishness and greed and self enriching. they think about community and if they don't helping people who can't or won't take care of themselves. for folks like us we have allowed ourselves to be erased. we're not even even in the discussion. they talk about the center. they left out, it's like a bird with a right wing. and i said that's our fault. we allow these debates to go on and we allow the terms to be defined so that my clients are
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out of the picture. they are not counted in the senses anymore. they're not counted in unemployment statistics. so i wrote this book to explain to my friends and to this journalist who finds poverty boring why ignoring people at the bottom of the economic scale and leaving them at the bottom of the well as the great late derek bell would say, if you leave children to rot in appalachia or alaskan reservations or ghettos and you leave them to face danger and you leave them in an ecosystem where they die young and they never have a spirit that children have to learn and to grow. they never thrive. they never thrive. if you leave them there, you know what? you and i may be safe now but those dangers that metastasized and germinate and grow in an
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ecosystem of violence, guess what? they germinate dangers that come back at the middle class. we might not see it today but your grandchildren are going to face it and your great grandchildren will face it. and that's what chief bratton cystic wonder why. look at the back of this book. i've got can't become of course -- of course my great cousin would give me a poor become but i also have chief bratton and i the great retired general, i'm sorry had to retire. a stan mcchrystal. i love stan mcchrystal. i'm a military kid. is just like my dad. we headed out of came under to assist our gang problem and he said do you know something we're germinating and insurgency insurgency. we have allowed what he called a sustained insurgency to take root here. it's going to come back at this pic you mean he said what are
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you doing? he said i'm over in afghanistan but your refund the same thing. i did notice was that a factor. to great military leaders came out to l.a. and said that what you're doing in trying to change the villages in which these children are dying that's the mission. state audit. don't ever let it go. but on the back and also of cornell west. that is a great letter. you've got to admit. so i have to tell you, i don't mean to be so intense. i don't mean to sound like i've lost my head. and i know i sound that way. i am not normal. i really not. there's nobody mfm who is normal, as you've seen. but i'm very proud of my family. i'm very proud of my family and i come from good people.
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and with a family culture that today kids was called child abuse because we weren't allowed to watch television at my mother used to keep this little tiny one foot square black and white tv locked up in whatever living room would move to because we were 17 times in 20 years, but my mom thought the thibault is poison. she thought it would rot our brains and so she would lock it -- were only allowed to watch news. so i grew up on "60 minutes." i love walter cronkite. but we were allowed to read and read and read. we learn to read at age three and four. because we traveled i became a nomad. you grew up as a nomad. and nomads are particularly said for dangerous work because we don't belong geographically. we don't belong to any try. i have many, many times. we all belong to tribes.
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i don't identify with one single drive. i have many tries but i don't we belong to any of them. and so when you grow up and move as much we did go and we move more the most air force families and we knew to other black officer families. the air force was not integrated when i was coming up. my dad was one of the few african-american officers and he was the first liaison to the british embassy in london. so we grew up in europe or quit growth in japan. we grew up in 17 different places in the united states. and grew up a lot in taxes. they graduate from high school in texas. i do think we need to help texas. we need to help texas. we really do. we need to help texas achieve its aspiration which is to secede. i think -- [laughter] i think i need to go help them
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achieve their aspiration. i have been incredibly privileged to ride on the wings of all of the pioneers before me. i am so painfully aware that we are not the first talented black people okay. i am so painfully aware of the shoulders of the giants upon which i stand. not just my parents they are the first, but if you think about all of the effort that it took for me to stand here it is truly an amazing thing. i love this country. i couldn't have been created anywhere but here. the cocktail mix of my blood could only have been done here. i could live anywhere else not anywhere. there are a lot of places where folks, jumble lifeblood streams but my particular jumble life could've only been created in
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north america enduring slavery. and i'm painfully aware that the children commit to they don't understand the struggle. the children that i encountered in jordan's housing projects on after the rise the mothers who cuss me out because i come straight from courtenay st. john suit with more pearls than barbara bush and i took my 10 can of a honda civic -- i have a colombo theory of the card. the more dented it is, the more it will be worth it when it is stolen or further dented. i've had five windshields bashed out. i keep a terrible corporate i now have the prettiest. but back then i took my little 10 can car, went down to 110 and found the century freeway and got off. where jordan 108th street, and i went to come and i just marched in their because mercedes had said connie, latino families are moving into this african-american housing
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project. talk about african-americans who never recovered from slavery. five generations in public housing. no one has ever worked. i estimated the unemployment rate was 70%. what we are facing right now in our sustained recession/depression, they would be throwing a party over the levels of unemployment that we are suffering now. 20% unemployment would be a gift in this community because there are no jobs. there are no jobs for the underclass. in the surrounding area we have a very vibrant working-class biggest work in firestone plant and the budweiser plant, 127000 jobs left that area during the bradlee era. there wasn't a committee created to pull working-class gotbdb$ hollowed out. we didn't holy city council meeting about the 120.(f.$.$.b.$ if 5000 jobs leave hollywood we're all over it aren't we?ábábáfáfá@áf/$/$/@ so when i went down to jordan down it was to learn what those/ .@.b,b.@.@.@
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kids faced..@. .$. .b. .@.b.b it. was to learn firsthand even though i was in my st. john suit.. .b.b.b.$ looking like an absolute idiot in the middle of the ghetto..@.$/ but i went.$ down there to hear.b.b.b.$.b. .$ what those folks needed from us..$. .$.$.@.$..$ and also because mercedes said.$.b. .@. we needed to get can we need to. .b.$.b talk to after the american families about. . not attacking the.b.f.b.$. . latino families..@.b.b.b. .b. . .b and later on with a lawsuit when. .f.$.b the rep is in the african-american families who were.b firebombed..f.@.$.$. (b.$.b so it was a racial isolated.$. ,b. ..b.$ .$ minority's failure to protect.b.b.b.$.b.b.$... racial dilated minorities in.$ all. .b.$.$.. ..@. .b of the housing project. we always did our cases during.b the tribes so that the cases. . .$.$. .b.$. could not be used as wedges,.$. .b,b.b. ,b.$ racial wedges..$.@.$/@.b.b. .b we needed interracial harmony to.$.b.b.f,b.$.b.b.f .b a city like los angeles cannot. . . .f.$,b.b.b afford the racing that we see in.b.$.$. .f.b.b the republican primaries. we can't afford the tribal, the.f.$..b.b. .b , pitting of one tribe against another. a city like ours won't last if. .$.@.b. we do it. this book is about my journey.b. ..b.
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..b, the gangland and coplin...@.f..b because i had to learn both the.@.b. .f,b.f. , and why would a civil. rights.b.@.. ,$.b.b lawyer go down to jordan downs, .b when it's issued to stay in.$.$.@,@.@.b.$áb federal court where i can alwaysáb(b win. i had to go to the street because the courts couldn't reach the safety issues. and what's the first civil right? what's the first of all civil rights? it's the right for safety. if you can't be saved, and if you don't have the first of all freedoms, freedom from violence, it's not the right to free speech. only a slave owning aristocrat would think that the first right to freedom is based on speech. because they were land owning white men brave, i our constitution, but a lot of the
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own slaves and they're so used to having catered to them they wouldn't think about the right to eat or the right to shelter or the most basic of all rights the right to safety. the freedom from violence but if you don't have that you don't have any other rights. that's the bedrock of all human rights. and so as a civil rights lawyer when i discovered that children died every day for saying that they were from the wrong neighborhood that they dodge bullets to get to school and often would not go to school because they couldn't get their safety. i realized that every game zones and kill zones in our backyard. the richest city in the richest country on the face of this planet. seven miles south of my office they were children who could walk to school because they gangs are having crossfire. actually dodged bullets. the point of this book is that even though the conditions there are better, and even though we
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are now enjoying 50 year lows in crime reduction, the violent visible crime has been replaced by a more insidious threat in these gangs and. because as the violence goes down, the power of the games actually go up. that's what the military commanders are trying to tell us. that's my odyssey through gangland. not just learn why these macho men think, adopted culture that says to survive just have a gun just to be a man, you have to kill. it is a cold of death. i had to understand it. let me tell you as a feminist this journey has been very interesting. i am the black murphy brown. you do not put me in the middle of a bunch of macho gangsters. it is a sitcom when it isn't dangerous, but i stuck with them because as i told my feminist friends, who said connie how can you hang around men who hate
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women this much? and i said listen people are stupid enough to discriminate against us because we're women, i think anybody who thinks they can actually discriminate against think there is in jail they are dead or they lost a lot of money. you don't come after women like us. yes, we face discrimination, but they face annihilation. and my bed my bet was that if i stuck with them and learn how to talk to them and they had to learn how to talk to me and boy, did i mess up and i had to translate but i remember this little dash to i would talk to the kids and they were looking at me like i was 18. they didn't understand a word i said but i may well have been i told maliki my law partner, i might well have been a law -- a white woman. i was an extraterrestrial. insane would stand up and say look, connie white but she down.
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[laughter] translation can we can't understand a thing she said and we don't know what she's talking about and she looks funny and she sounds funny but she is here to help us so let's accept or. and they decide to call me lady lawyer which in that world is a real honor. and i so appreciated them allowing me to learn enough about their world enough about their ecosystems that i could figure out how to help them. and the women of jordan downs said ms. rice after they cast me out after they cuss me out royally, which i want to say because this is the cable television, it's in the book read it. they test me called everything but a child of god. and as the scheppach this one woman said how do you come down here. you have left us in this shooting gallery. i have to put my grandchildren to bed any bathtub because the bullets come to the tribal. my older kids have to sleep on the floor. and you you come down here and
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ask us to treat latinos with some dignity. and i said i'm so going to ask that, but you're right. we've abandoned you and you should be angry with us. and at that point this other woman stood up and she said police, just help our men stop the killing. and that's what launched me on my journey through the grain -- again truth is the gangland together part of my journey is lapd. i'll make this short and sweet and they will open it up for questions, which will get into some were interesting as find out what you're curious about. with lapd, is kind of a shotgun marriage. i sue the shares and this is lapd for the whole gaggle of great lawyers carol, paul, mark, all from the aclu. we had terawatts if you quit 47 lawyers, and we just woke up every day, unit or airtime i was in the shower i was thinking of
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a new way to sue lapd. every day. i cut it out, we were at war. at war okay? everything we could think of we did we ended up switching to representing cops because it became dash of which i've that if you represent cops you could infiltrate the police department in infiltration is a great part of what i learned. you can win in court but until you get inside these agencies and helping change their thinking, and you can't leave lapd just gave up because i wouldn't go away. if you see people long enough it's kind of like a shotgun marriage. they in the kind of sort of attached to you because you all these consent decrees and they can't get review because the court said you've got to do what she says or what this group of lawyers said. so it ends up being a shotgun marriage. and lo and behold, we can look at each other after 15 years and they realized i wasn't therefore money. i was there because with
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adequate police force you can't keep people safe. and believe me, having run with the games for 15 years i know what they're capable of. eielson a brutal police are capable of. you've got to get the brutality out of both of the cultures. i ended up walking with the police after bratton came, he opened the door and i could go inside. and once i was there with bratton, chief bratton, the second transformative chief, chief parker was the first one, but chief bratton began the end of lapd's embryo culture. on tasha on the couple took a. unaccountable -- the city council, they held all the power. the politicians were terrified of lapd. i had -- did that change completely? no. but the fact that my first book party was given by chief bratton, and they were lined up around the building we have
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come a long, long way and where are now tied allies but i can't even sue lapd that because they relied on my advice too much. and today the truth, i don't have to. we are allies and we're going to make this cd, even for the children in jordan downs, we're going to make it safe for them. 90. [applause] >> first of all thank you all so much. i hope somebody read the books they can ask questions. what did you find it curious ask what did you want to know more about? [inaudible] >> ms. rice, as a look at budget
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cuts in estate how they've affected the courts, what if you notice about the slow down of justice? szsz[z >> the scroll down? >> slow down. to make your, we are facing devastating cuts. i don't know how school districts are going to make another billion dollars in cuts. all other progress that that we made with school class size is gone now. we are losing libraries. we are losing, we lost the nurses a long time ago and this is the only place these kids get any health care. it is a terrible slow down, and it's all because the distribution of public wealth is skewed. we have the money. any see that spins any state that spends a billion dollars on plastic surgery has money. you know? we spend more on tanning salons than we do libraries.
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what martin luther king called a revolution in values and we should not make mistake for the progress we make anything permit. as you've seen from these cuts in the budget, and now coming down to the municipal level. we will lose almost every single game we made in education. we started down the road of wraparound care for the homeless. that's going to go by the wayside because the funds are gone. so almost every single substantive area where we're talking about putting a floor underneath extreme poverty or first weld county, i thought ending extreme poverty for first world country, almost every single campaign and effort that has been made by the hundreds of magnificent advocates, and a few of our progressive politician who actually paid attention to pose as opposed to the next seat, all of that is going to be gone. judges right now can't even get
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to the civil class action. i don't think i could get my cases tried to seize because at least in the state courts and the federal courts are getting infected, can't get any judges appointed because washington won't appoint federal judges. and the state courts are so impacted that they have lost their staff they've cut back their hours are we doing someone a drug prosecutions that you can get to the civil cases. i hear from judges all the time. so we have to ask ourselves, do we want a functioning democracy or not? do we want a democracy that holds the california dreams and the children come behind his? are we going to look at the to come behind us and decide they don't look like a so we're not going to give them the dream? we would shut the doors, shut the coffers and just not invest it will take our riches and go home. that's the debate we're having nationally and in california. we need to tell jerry brown don't give us a bait and switch initiative where you've already made a deal with the correction
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guards to continue the mass incarceration strategy. we are not going to allow the jail money the jail building money to go from the state to l.a. county so we can lock up even more people. we need, instead of getting 10,000 more shares of deputies in a jail that if unlike the bastille right now we need to not build a new jail we need to build a rehabilitation center. we need to hire 10,000 health counselor because what we did is we lock up the poor and the drug addicts and the mental health patients because we don't take care of them. have to jail doesn't need to be bill. the folks who are out there doing drive-by shootings and murders and whatnot, i will help the shares and lapd's lock them up. i'm not talking about violent criminals. i'm talking about the 70% people who are in the mass incarceration jailed training our coffers by the way and justice kennedy in our prison overcrowding? no, this is how he described our crime enterprise, our
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crime-fighting enterprise in california. he said california state prison system is crime or genic. i love that word. because what it means is we are so stuck on stupid with our punishment that we are actually creating more crime. that's what it means. i want a criminal justice system that acts and makes a statement doesn't create more violent people, doesn't replace people because they're going to prison. rape inside prison is outraged that we should not be brutalizing peel. we should be making them safer. we should be making them safer for them to come back to commute. but because they don't come back managed to communities like ours, we don't really care. to the boggling to me is that the cuts are just the latest assault in this regressive movement. i don't call it conservative because we're not conserving anything.
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we are destroying what it took 100 years to build. and if our voices don't get loud, really love i don't think this book is quite loud enough but it's my first salvo. if we don't do it really loud to safety want to know something, rugged individualism is great but all those people are billionaires and millionaires, and i would like to join the ranks, i have nothing against folks have a lot of wealth, but they would have made that wealth in china. they wouldn't have made that wealth in brazil. they made it here because we collectively come together, as a culture and as a society have build infrastructure. we built the free enterprise laughter and then they bought the system increased it for themselves but we are going to fix that. we had a captured republic right now and the people of captured it are selling us an idea that we don't band together to create progress. slavery would never again be without the quakers and abolitionists and the resistance lies and the tuskegee airmen and
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jackie robinson and thurgood marshall and martin luther come and than you do and the suffragists. it took all of us together every single amount of progress that we made has taken all of us together. no rugged individual. the rugged individualist who left the east coast and went out west ended up the scalp. it wasn't until the federal government decided to steal the land from the native americans and i'm about a third native american and a third african and a third anglo celtic. it as a said i'm an afro in tokyo, and i can probably negotiate a native american treated in a room by myself. and i could sign my own reparations check, okay? i could only been created in the united states. and, frankly i'm delighted by. i'm very circuit all had happened after mr. interact. it is what it is and i am what him. the bottom line is the bottom
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line is there isn't anybody who made it because of some ayn rand i am the individual. the biggest take is right now are my elite friends in the financial sector. and so we need to type of loud and strong. these cuts are unacceptable. we do not need to be building a bullet train with the kids in jordan downs are still dodging balls but we need to let jerry brown not doing this. have to set the priority. if you can't put a floor and create the basic safety for all children to learn and thrive, no matter what stations are born into, that's demented i'm just talking about talk that the kind of safety of enveloping i'm talking about safety in efforts to walk to school, not encounter a game-winner in the bathroom at school and be able to learn without post-traumatic stress but in talking about sufficient safety for them to be able to get on the bus or walk over
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school without getting shot. i don't think that is a lot to ask. believe me i have seen capitalism create more wealth for poor people that i have anything under -- i'm not talking of going to communism. i'm talking about keeping the social compact that says every kid will get a fair shot. that's all i'm talking about the i'm talking about what martin luther king, jr. was talking about the sorry to give such a long answer. the cuts are devastating, and we are not responding to them in the right way. we can't just keep accepting the. and by now we need to let them know since we voted for them you cannot take this out on poor people. you do not need to take home nursing care of the elderly sick, and still keep the yacht subsidy. okay? we're going to have to get radical but i know we're all of over 50. i am. into, notified years i will be
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60, god help me. i know. we are not spring chickens anymore but we do have a voice still. they are afraid of older people. politicians are afraid of older people who has the mic next four and next question? you're welcome. >> thanks. i have a question about one of the finest things you said in your remarks, which had to do with not having to to the police. and i'm wondering if you were sitting that the culture of reform is now in the lapd or if there are better tactics to improve policing industries because it is both better tactics and is a beginning of a culture change but what i can see is the leadership has changed the if someone from jordan downs were sitting at to see what is she talking about? i don't see any change in the police. i'm not saying that the old guard sergeant in the back of the squadron on the graveyard shift in southeast division who
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always does from stephanie changing came of the old way, i'm not saying he has changed. i'm saying that we have a transformative chief. we've had two in a row now. chief back is a prince of lapd deputy chief. what i learned in exploring how to help them change. brown told me to investigate the rampart scandal which is also in the book. when he came or but he gave to me to keep me busy. he wanted to make be too busy to sue him and he was sparked, he was right. i went on an 18 month talking to work with the police. with me listening. kathleen, my intrepid right hand comment who was raised by nuns, thank god for not because they the girls could only be secretaries, so kathleen had to take typing from third grade through 12th grade, and she tied at transcriptions be. if you go into a room with a tape recorder people won't talk but if you just have a computer and asked to take notes and to measure to tell them, we had
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verbatim quotes from over 700 cops. i mean it is a compendium, a window into the police sell. it was like therapy session. they would say things like ms. rice, i'm not sure we want to change. we may need to be brutal to hold on to our identity another copasetic, we tell someone lies we don't know that we're lying anymore. so to us it's not lying, ms. rice. to use it is line. to us it is her bio. i would've never gotten a -- and they were begging for help. they said help us change this. we don't know how. we are afraid. we are afraid if we extend a hand to the community that we been brutalizing for 50 years that they will turn on us. and i've got to get home to my family. is societies is keep these people contain and suppress, keep the file. it ain't about providing the safety for the but they're the ones who agreed with this but i can't sing it was a containment
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suppression process that was handed down from slavery to get to keep the slaves off the plantation. modern policing extension slavery. chief bratton and i used to debate this but i said get a grip you all came from slave plantation. that's what our policeman come from. i used to live in london. don't tell me about committee policing. we had that debate and women arm-wrestling that. he finally changed my way to compare slave artifacts store and he saw the slaves a police badge. they look exactly moderately fetches only they had the plantation name for us and police department is and then he bought several of them and he stopped arguing with me. but the bottom line for us right now now is the time because we are having, we are having this cataclysmic historic debate, but we're doing it through some stupid tv stations and a debate, a debating season
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and republican primaries that look like a clown car a mean clown car. i do think it's the way to have a debate. our voices are not there and i really think we've got to get a little more organized and maybe i've got to get there and start talking. i told condi we needed to do a joint tour to show people how you need to debate these issues, but debate with the idea keeping society intact. what we can do is build a civil war again, but i don't think that is necessary. i think it would be really stuck on stupid. >> i was wondering if you could talk about the realignment from the state to the count and if there's any opportunities better to reduce recidivism or have some sanity? >> can the realignment racism
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opportunities, yes again. will it? i don't know. it's been son so haphazardly and there's so little planning. the realignment of emptying out the state prisons and closing of the juvenile state prisons and sending the kids back down to alleycat and to the counties where these kids came from and sending untold prisoners back down to l.a. county, that's what realignment is. and a lot of ways i agree with the idea government closest to the people because we will not raise taxes industry but welfare very well. let's do it locally. we know what our problems are. we can raise and tax ourselves with limited time periods, like we did to build a school but i couldn't tell the story of how we build the schools. it was in a 10 pages i regiment appeared it is now three and a page. so that'll be in a notebook of how we built the schools on time on budget and with the navy engineers. so it can be done. that was an opportunity. we change the culture of contracting. we can change the culture of
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incarceration. we can make incarceration do it as what it is supposed to be. we spent $8 billion on the state direction. but we produce more violent criminals and we have a wq two-thirds recidivism rate. weweb@sd if you have a two-thirds recidivism rate, that isn't f. with it. so we'll wasting 8 billion euros to if you spend $8 billion of my mind i want to see results. want to see people out of prison ready to get back in society. they can't be cured, they can w@wd help and they are violent and the our circulars and we just have to stay in wese prison. but not the knitting people we have gotten prison. that's ridiculous. so the real national realignment wa allows a number things for female prisons day presence presents a thing being your tickets but we already know through policy studies backing of prisoners and nothing like the male prisoner but when you have wewe passionate only .01% of the women need to be incarcerated. wewe
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and as a feminist i'm not surprised to the men are the problem. the men coming or going to have wp to figure how to assess them, what they need. they used to fill out exit we interviews and easy to i need trucks event. i need job and i am illiterate. and they would tell you what their needs were but they don't even take those exit interviews anymore. we need assessments of what the needs of exiting prisoners are and if they are mental health need you cannot send schizophrenics out on the street and expect them not to their delusions result in harm to other people. that's not a reasonable expectation. we need to be creating, and this is one of the things not just the day reporting centers for women, but also local prisons that are designed for healthy meals get rehabilitated. portamento we have to build not a new central jail. the policies of the jail because we created be down culture and
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i love the shutdown is a friend of mine but he's not running his department the right way. bottom line is instead of reconstructing a central jail we need to constructive rehabilitation center. instead of trying to get another 10,000 cops who are badly trained, we need 10,000 mental health experts and psychiatrists so that we can get the mental health treatment. mental health treatments, cops don't know what to do when they run into crazy but they don't know what to do. and we've got a lot of really sick, insane people in our prisons and they ended coming out even more insane. criminogenic. we are creating more and more incentive. so the realignment come if we were to tell the county supervisors to get a clue and that's difficult to do even though most of them are my friends, if the county supervisors and the sheriff and
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the da could get together because they have are sticking it here in l.a. county, they have $24 billion of our money. let me say that again. the county of los angeles has $24 billion of our money. and we cannot seem to get coherent effective programs for rehabilitation. so we are going to have to give them the decide that will have to design the center. will have to arm the mental health people and will have to demand, no, you cannot go to jail. what you can do is a rehabilitation center, and a mental health center for the criminally convicted. and we are going to set metrics but you cannot have a two-thirds recidivism rate. and we're going to set up panels of experts can psychiatrists and doctors, criminologists and with the genie back in the senate, i want jones running this because
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there's some very brilliant people of shuffling the knows what need to become but they can't get into the political system because the unions don't our politicians. then that's a second thing that we don't get the money out of politics if we don't get our politicians to understand that they are there to solve long-term problems, we have to get rid of term limits because the people it uses solve our long-term problems, pat brown but never got me like. pat brown could never have got elected ronald reagan could never have gotten elected now. looks like oliver. whether they are democrats or republicans, greens libertarian whatever party nobody is solving long-term problems to this book is a fully to get back to solutions. politics of solution. my journey is about how it took everybody i sued and made them an ally, and we saw partially through private sector and civic
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sector allies, we create an army of them. we went and got the military but we went and got the cops. and we created an army of allies who were about the business of making life better for these kids. weather was building the schools. we built 147 schools on time on budget. that's the next book. i hope you will buy it. or whether it was getting lapd to become a key partner with the gang intervention guide. whom i learned the street from whom i learned the street. and melding them completely, we run the gang academy and tony you may not like a lot of what he is done but he has stuck with these issues and he made a secret the first gang intervention academy which we run. might organization runs. and the bottom line is the best of those instructors, these are exiting strategic these are guys who didn't make it through seventh grade but they're teaching in this academy because they know how to go from being a
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predator to a peacemaker. and they can stop the bullets. guess where they are teaching now? they teach in los angeles police department academy and in l.a. sheriffs academy. that's what this book is about. it's not about smaller government or no government or drowning in a bathtub. and it's not about just the thousand points of light. it's about both of joining and linking together to solve big problems. 1000 points of life are one of the were all one of those wonderful life but 1000 points of light has never replace the sun. this is what i've learned and what this book is about. it's about how you take the best of our entrepreneurial culture the best in government. government is our turn to to work, ladies enjoyment. it's not like we have an option not to have it. if you attack and keep it completely i have said so many politicians i can't even belong to a political party.
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i have sued governmental entities. that has been my business. i sued nothing but from private and more work with republican mayors and i have with democratic district i have sued most of the democratic leaders. so i'm not it's not like i'm not trying to hold government accountable. i'm saying make it work right. make it produce for people. get it out of this have pockets he we've created. they have to spend 40% of the time raising money. you know they're not solving our problems. and the supreme court, i'm embarrassed to say i'm a lawyer. because i think the supreme court has done more damage to our constitutional fabric and any other institution. i don't know what they were ranking when they did citizens united. it may mean we have to do some constitutional amendments. we've got to get that money out. you cannot buy a politician. i'm in the room with some millionaires. they think i am a help. [laughter] they see a black pearl anything okay, i do look kind of
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innocuous. i'm sitting there listening to them and there was one these conversations. why didn't you bicommunal have a politician, you need to buy -- they are talking about how they by the politicians. and i said, oh, okay, i get it. one of them said no all the good ones are bought. i mean, i'm privilege to listen to these conversations. i'm a fly on the wall. these are some very smart people extra care about constitution. but ladies and gentlemen, we need to get up off our death. these kids are looking at us like some reasonable detail the generation behind? i would need to apologize to for my up seeming greedy colleagues who stole your futures and wreck your futures in a casino capitalism must do to drop into a derivatives ditch, and i'm sorry. we have been absolutely
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irresponsible, and the kids looking at us the kids will benefit from the d.r.e.a.m. act, and let me tell you something, ladies and gentlemen, this is a gringo room. this is a latino city. it is a latino region and we're tied to mexico. if we don't help out our sister state makes her get on her feet again we will not make it because the future of l.a. and this is the other point of this book, the future of this country and the future of los angeles are not with the visible prosperous community. they're not with people like me. the future is tied to our underground. it's tied to invisible l.a. because invisible outlay gets infected with these threats of violence, everybody dying young if the cartels can take over their vulnerable populations that's where they will go. that's where organized crime is
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right now. it's where the gangs are right now. and they will slowly take over more and more of our institutions just like in italy. i have a chapter in your called the road to palermo but at least i think a chapter survive. i'm not sure, we got so much. but we can lose our constitutional democracy faster than you think. and if we allow these children to fester in the gangs owns, and we don't go in there with smart progressive policy, and we just do the reactive lock them all up go to war what general mcchrystal is telling it was shock awe didn't work. it was clear hold, take the wells, build the schools that was working. couldn't do it in afghanistan. no way to do that in afghanistan but we had better do it here. or we're going to lose our culture shock democracy. that's what this is about. that's what i learned in my obviously through gangland and
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through copland. that's what i learned in doing the lawsuit. it's what i learned from harry belafonte. it's what i've learned from all of the great leaders who came before me, and i just took the baton from him, from them, and kind of halfway ran a leg. i have another like to go. but my grandmother said just as a really it's a really and it is a long relay. my grandmother, my grandmother rise, she said look, don't you ever get down. i don't care how backward you think you're going, because i can tell you one thing, we're never going back to the days when i had to sit in the dark 10:00 at night to 4:00 in the morning to wear to hide our men and i'd get the rifle and i had to sit there with a rifle on my legs waiting for the clan to come. she said you will never have to do that. and that israel progress and it could only happen in this great country. yes, sir. take the mic.
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>> i'd like to thank c-span for being here. for those who couldn't make it there, it's beautiful that lady lawyer is here to restore some action in the city of pasadena. and to all those folks that are incarcerated i think you for being involved in their struggle and keeping him. my big question right now is we may be a bit overwhelmed with what we heard tonight but will be the best thing for us to do when we leave here tonight? other than buy your book but what's the best thing for us to do? >> and please buy the book otherwise i will be on skid row with a basket full. certainly didn't make any money doing litigation. the best thing that we can do right now is keep your eye on how this devolution happens in california, and make sure that the supervisors know, organize your neighborhood to say that
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you want the money to be used in a different way. you do not want to go to the corrections union. you wanted to go to building the rehabilitation center and you want to go to rehabilitation services number one. number two, we have got to organize ourselves to demand that the defendant of the schools gets reversed. and that's going to mean getting to jerry brown, the governor thinks that his budget makes sense. he wants to go with a legacy like his dad, pat brown concert wants to do the bolton, wants to do big investments. you don't get to do a bullet train when you are taking home nursing care away from the elderly. we are balancing this budget on the backs of the poorest of the poor but we are not cutting dmv services for the middle class. we are not increasing the car tax. just bring the car tax back to what was and you won't have to fire nurses for the elderly
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poor. so you can we need to get organized to lobby. there are groups up in sacramento who are doing lobbying. but because they don't have money they are not listened to. so i think that we could get our municipal, even if you just are here in pasadena, you could get the mayor to get his voice loud. if we let them know they're not going to get a new office they will not be a next office if you balance this budget on our poor kids. we're going to have to get more vocal but i'm not suggesting you get tense and pitched in and stay in tents. we are too old for that, okay? i'm glad occupy l.a. did what it did. the disparity and the wealth gap. yes, we have good take care of deficits but you don't go underwater strike and start water conversation when your house is a fight. you douse the fire first and then you do your water conservation. the priorities are skewed
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because they are weapons of destruction. they are meant for us to think that this is the issue when we should be paying attention to something else but the fact that kids had to go at the animals get pneumonia by staying outside in tents for two months tell you have effectively been. as middle-class, and and just making some perceptions here. as middle class voters who have clout, you become your intelligent, some of you march. some of us are still marching. we have got to get organized and we got to let the union snow, the unions have not asked for the right stuff if they haven't thought the right fights. they're cutting their own throats. they need to make themselves indispensable to the solution to don't go to the corrections union. they operate more like a mafia. you can't reach them. but the police unions we are beginning to reach. the teachers unions have got to
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understand you cannot keep excusing the ineffectiveness of how you teach in our poor schools. those days are over. we have sued units before. i would sue anyone who is in the way. anybody who's in the wake of kids getting what they need. i was within. i will sue my mother. we sued board members because i was working for the naacp and i sued our board members. you do not get in our way. and yes, i know i sound like kashmir and it does sound overwhelming, but i don't know how to spoonfeed this do. it is overwhelming that we're okay. most of us are still okay. most of us our own -- are on their way to own our home. in my neighborhood people thought that was a game because there was a water grade, there was actually some get high come properly spelled and punctuated, and rebel, properly spelled and punctuated.
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and the person had pink hearts over the eyes it and my neighbors want to know if this was a gang graffiti. and i said no it is a girl graffiti and she's probably angry because she's probably put a restriction because she didn't do her homework. i said no we don't have gains in the neighborhood. we are safe. but if we don't stand up and fight for the safety of the kids in our own backyards we have child soldiers in l.a. i met a nine year old a nine year old assassin because the monsters corrupted him, could send him to do the killing and they knew he wouldn't get as bad a sentence. but they killed that child just like to do in the congo in rwanda and in bosnia. they made child soldiers. we have been in l.a. we have slavery in l.a. and if we don't begin to
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understand invisible l.a. we will not be able to help the people trapped in these gang zones, trapping him in sex trafficking. i know i'm not making any this overwhelming, but i'm tired of doing this for just the collings i had. i need the public to understand it's not overwhelming. we can fix this stuff. if we could fix lapd we can fix anything. and now is the time to turn to the county because there $24 billion over my internet doing what they need to do with it. the county is overwhelming. if lapd was matt wilson, the county is -- you can still climb k2. it takes a whole lot more. i just, i think i'm missing the few genes that i just don't get overwhelmed. and often because i don't know enough about why i can't do it i end up achieving it because i just don't look at it that way.
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so look at this problem as overwhelming. notice they turn up about our intellectual property, i don't have to do the viral stuff, i don't have to get online. i don't do that stuff. i am old school. i evenhandedly stuff is a good. i will type on the computer, but i am old school. but i understand the power. that so we have healthy city advanced project it is like google for nonprofits and it's the best thing in the country but my urban peace team can't have fear and. they have to go out to the gang shootings. susan lee runs the urban peace team has to manage the county agency. it's not a matter of just doing it if we don't have the power of laws anymore. we had to give his politicians and bureaucrats to change what they're doing without a lawsuit. that is skill, okay? there are a lot of other organizations, but you can't be afraid of this. it does mean lobbying more than
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just writing letters. it means getting an agenda together. and i'm going to pose an action agenda of things people can do. specific bills to argue for and things to ask for at the county level because that's where the safety net and realignment and devolution from sacco down to l.a. county. in the late become l.a. county is getting most of that money. in the five supervisors didn't have enough knowledge to know what to do with it. and we are going to have to help and i want to do act a plan for the rehabilitation center. so leave me your address but i have to start getting grassroots. i am a lone wolf. i don't have congregations or constituencies. we don't have membership, but i can see this phase of the revolution is going to require a grassroots because lawyers are only great when they are
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supporting grassroots movements. and part of why president obama and part of why the democrats aren't very effective is because there's no voice there's no grassroots movement. there's no demand. and without a demand, power concedes. [applause] >> is this on? is there anything coming up on the ballot that might be helpful? [laughter] >> thank you, steve it was who is my law partner and without whom maliki my other law partner and i would not able to get any trains running on time. yes. in this site over how to raise taxes, demand that you and your politicians ask of the konica paginated deal with directions so that the money isn't really
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