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85%? >> c-span.org/thecon enders. >> host: and "the communicators"' coverage of the consumer electronics show from the las vegas convention center continues this week. over 3,000 companies showed off the latest technology at the show in january of this year. this week we visit with the ceo of erickson as well as take a visit to the intel booth at the consumer electronics show. first up, the ceo of ericsson. well, we're pleased to be joined here at the consumer electronics show by the president and ceo of ericsson, hans vestberg. mr. vestberg, first of all, welcome to las vegas. >> guest: thank you. >> host: and if you would, tell us about the ericsson company. >> guest: the ericsson company was found in 1876, and we have since then been the world leader in telecommunication equipment,

first in fixed, now in mobile. today 40% of all mobile networks in the world are ericsson mobile networks supporting operators. we have roughly 100,000 employees worldwide, we are based in 180 countries. so we are a company that are doing research and development, getting out products in order to enable the mobile broadband and mobility networks all around the world. we spend roughly $4.5 billion u.s. a year for research and development. >> host: where are you based, and how large in the u.s.? >> guest: we're base inside sweden, it's a swedish company since its inception, however, u.s. is by far our largest market both on volume wise, but also one of the largest -- [inaudible] we have some 15-16,000 -- [inaudible] in the north american market today. >> host: now, when mobile phones

in the u.s. started to become ubiquitous, the ericsson name was a familiar brand name, but not today. why is that? >> guest: i think in the beginning of the mobile networks, the mobile phone was an extension of the networks. we actually started, when we started the mobile networks, we also started with the ericsson brand of mobile phones. then after a couple of years after that we merged with sony ericsson and we made a venture that has been going on for ten years, and in october last year we decided to split that, and we're actually selling that back to sony, so sony will now run the mobile handset business that we were part of before. so we're leaving the handset. we were part of it from the beginning because it was an extension of mobile networks. today the mobile phone is so much more than an extension of the networks. >> host: why are you leaving? why are you leaving the joint venture with sony- ericsson? >> guest: i think the mobile phone has evolved so much, it's

much more than a voice-centric gadget. you need to have content, you need to have -- ericsson is best in the technology, developing what's inside. so we are developing things inside the mobile phone and the whole mobile networks and the fixed networks. that's sort of what we are doing and what we are at the best. >> host: so if a u.s. consumer is a customer of verizon, at&t, sprint, etc., what ericsson products might they be using? >> guest: most likely when they make a phone call, it would be through the ericsson radio-based stations and through the switching equipment as we are main supplier to all of those that you mentioned. so that means we are catering for the calls that they're doing or the data session that they're going on their smartphone when they are checking the twitter or the facebook. then it's going to be an ericsson session set up by that. so we are sort of catering for all the coverage and the day data on the networks. >> host: now, mr. vestberg,

you're doing one of the keynote addresses here at the consumer electronics show, and one of your topics is the network society. what is that? >> guest: i think that when we talk about the network society, we're talking in two phases. one is that in a network society anything that benefits from being connected will be connected in the future. the other side of it is is that we believe that this is the technical revolution that we're into, and a technology revolution has two phases. the first phase is a deployment phase where you build out all the networks. and today we're six billion mobile subscriptions, one billion, six lines. we're going to increase in the years to come, but we've reached a huge base. and based on that, we start to see new innovation that we never thought about. just imagine, when we started to build local networks, there was only one service.

that was voice. we wallet today call each other. today -- we wanted to call each other. today you start connecting health care devices on the mobile networks, that is a second phase, and that's what we call the natural society where everything that benefits from being connected will be connected through the networks. and that was the different for what we saw when we started the process of building the networks together with operators. we thought it's going to be great you and me calling each other, some of us thought that was a crazy idea, why do i need to move around when i talk to you? today it's given. but it's given that we are transforming your life with the phone, businesses, and we're transforming society by health care, education being redesigned by using this technology. and that's what i'm going to talk about, the network society is here, and it's so important that consumer electronics is part of that because they are a huge part of that change. >> host: 5.8 billion mobile subscriptions at this point worldwide, and in a recent

interview with the consumer electronics association, you said that 85% of the world has a mobile phone subscription. does that raise the issue of spectrum shortage and spectrum usage? >> i think that what we see in the world right now is that we still going to see growth. we believe that over 90% of the earth's population will have coverage by 2015. and, of course, spectrum is what we're using in order to be as efficient as possible. there are two things very important. one is that we spend $4.5 billion u.s. in research and development, as i said. and be, of course, we are innovating new ways of using the spectrum more efficient, different ways of allocating a sector in a smarter way. so that we will do. on the other hand, spectrum is a scarce resource and, of course, the more spectrum you have, the better it is. because you can get better service to your consumers and operators can actually operate better. and in many cases we need to understand the social impact of the mobile networks.

we have done numerous studies where we collected -- 124 studies that has been done on broadband, and there was two conclusions. one was for every 10% of broadband penetration, you get 1% sustainable gdp. and for every 3,000 broadband -- 1,000 broadband connections, you get eight and a half jobs. so this is math for the country as well because this is transforming a country. so that's why spectrum is, of course, very important piece in that puzzle to gain and get those efficiencies and transform the economy. >> host: mr. vestberg, as a multi-national corporation that deals in 180 countries, do you have to keel with 180 federal -- deal with 180 federal communications commissions and different spectrum requirements? >> guest: i think that one thing that is unique this industry is we share a lot of technologies, we share a lot of how we use

spectrum, which spectrum we're using, and there's a reason why you can move a phone from sweden to u.s. to pakistan and wherever and it works. the english was based on standard. ericsson has the majority of all the patents on 2g, 3g and 4g. we license that out for anyone who wants to use it because then we want to know the scale is going to come, and the prices come down. however, of course, i meet with the commissioners in every country, talk to them. so it's very normal that i meet the minister of telecommunication or the regulator to talk about the latest development, how they can use spectrum. >> host: two of the issues, hans vestberg, that we worry about here in the be united states, the congress, the fcc, piracy and privacy. what is ericsson doing about those issues? >> guest: i think, first of all, you're absolutely right. you need to be very careful because everything is going to be open. it's going to be huge, massive

networks that's going to be used, and people are going to get a lot of benefits. so on one hand, you need to remember all the benefits you're get anything a network society. on the other hand, you also need to understand the privacy issues and seeing that people really understand what they are getting into, and the piracy has been there for quite a while, and i think we need to be very clear that piracy is not fair and is not, it's not a way to do business because there are many people that are investing quite a lot of money in order to do these products. and piracy is not fair. so i think we need as industries come together and work very hard and seeing that we're not accepting that. and i think that we see more and more of that. and given that a network society will more and more be connected, these will, of course, be very important challenges in network society. >> host: has ericsson suffered from piracy issues? >> guest: i think that, of course, as a world leader in telecommunication and being so

for a long time, of course there are people who want to copy. i think it's quite difficult because we are in a very heavy r&d sector. but, of course, that's probably happening. that's not my main concern. i think that we share our technologies. we standardize the technology, so that's part of the game if you want to use what we have invented, our patents, you can use it, and then you cross-license it. so i think that's a little bit different from our industry that we are sharing in between each other in order to get the lowest cost and the most efficient solutions. so we have the same solutions in africa as we have here in the u.s. the same technologies coming out, but then we can bring down the cost and the benefit for the consumer is finally what is most important. >> host: mr. vestberg, have you been to the consumer electronics show before, and hard your impressions -- what are your impressions of this 201 show? >> guest: i have to be very honest. i have never been to the show before. i have been browsing around, and

i have to say it's an amazing show. it really shows the gathering of all the consumer electronics and all application developers in the world, and i think it also shows the power of how fast these development are come. what i see is, of course, everything almost is wireless enabled when you go around which is just amazing in such a short time when nobody knew what a smartphone was five years ago, four years ago. now everything is built around that application. so it's amazing to see. i'm really excited to see it. >> host: cloud computing, how does that figure into your business plan? >> guest: i think the cloud computing figures very well into our plan because we going to see the three pillars for transformation, the connectivity or the mobile coverage, the broadband and the cloud. those three pillars going to transform in the industry. i can take example like education where you can be in a

very rural area. if you have connectivity in broadband and you put education in the cloud, that actually can educate the people or students in a very rural area. so that is the transformation. so the cloud is a very important way to bring down the barrier even further for efficiency. it can be health care, it can be another application that you put up in the cloud together with the connectivity and the broadband. and then you can transform any industry and get new efficiencies. so i think the cloud is playing very much into certain products as we have in the cloud, certain operators are in the cloud, but then, of course, we see even more enterprise solutions now coming in the cloud in order to redefine, redefine processes for different enterprises. >> hans vestberg, when you look 10, 20 years out, what are you most excited about technology wise? >> guest: when i look out and i think about the future, first of all, i'm excited that the

technology that we are providing is going to be used in all the different ways the next ten years. and sometimes probably our only imagination is putting limit here to what we believe. but if we look at technology, i'm going to see even more speeds coming up meaning that the 4g will give even higher speeds. with higher speeds and latencies, new services can come. we will talk about here about the connected car with 4g will have a latency of only 100 milliseconds. and that might not say so much to you, but what it mean is that, actually, one car can communicate with the car behind you. and when you push the brake on the car in front of you, you can actually send a signal to the car behind you, and that can actually pick. that is so -- brake. that is so short latency when you use the 4g chip set in the car. then you can think about how you can rethink the whole connected car because you connect the

cars, and they can actually steer the traffic and avoid accidents. >> host: but higher speeds, again -- and the smartphone, tablets, et, use a lot of strum. is there a solution? does ericsson have a responsibility to develop efficient products? >> guest: yes. we have, i think that we have a responsibility as a leader in this industry to develop new ways of using the the spectrum in a smarter way. we will come with new solutions, and i'm certain that we will be able to use different technologies at the same time, different spectrums at the same time to -- [inaudible] because it's always inefficiencies in spectrum between different bands and frequencies, and here, of course, there are innovations that we are doing with our engineers that we have in sweden and all around the world that actually want to do that. so, yes, we feel a big responsibility for actually proving that you can use the spectrum even more efficiently. >> host: hans vestberg, in the

last couple of years the u.s. has rolled out a national broadband plan. what's been the experience in sweden? >> guest: in sweden when it comes to broadband, we were pretty early out, especially on the fixed broadband and the mobile broadband, and it has been a very good, i would say, impact on society because we welcome a lot of new innovation especially from the society piece, but also the enterprise piece. the enterprise are using the broadband in order to innovate the businesses, etc. and in sweden they will share broadband that can be shared among operators. that was our model. might not work in any country, but in sweden it works. so we have a good feeling for that. sweden was actually first with 4g in the world which we are very proud of. we supplied it through an operator in sweden, so we -- sweden is still in the forefront of a lot of broadband, etc., even though we're a small country. >> host: how is the recession --

how has the recession affected your company in. >> guest: i think that after the third quarter when we reported, we had the southern europe impact, i guess we had that for several quarters. the instability in those markets when it comes to macroeconomy has actually taken down investment. now there has been the middle east and part of northern africa has had their challenges which also have taken down the investment, so that's what we're seeing so far. the most important we have seen so far is the underlying demand for people using networks, smartphones, etc. that has been remained. and that, of course, reflecting the investment levels. but we will see when we report the fourth quarter. we're going this year 2012 how this macroeconomics will impact our company. >> host: what kind of devices do you use personally? >> guest: for obvious reason i'm using a sony-ericsson. [laughter] we still own sony-ericsson even

though we are departing right now, so i have an android phone that i'm using right now with all the mails, all the different type of news that i need for my daily work. so i guess this is part of my life, and i check it extremely regularly. >> host: now, what about the future of apps? do you see thos continuing? >> guest: i think apps will in many cases continue to be extremely vital. as the internet is growing with information, i think you and i as users want the easy way to find it and not maybe search all the time, so apps will be important to find your way. i also think that pam providers welcome back -- app a providers will be one way of promoting their brands and actually get the loyal, loyal community of users that are using the app that they can is understand. so they can establish the relationship with their consumers through an app which nobody thought about for five

years ago before an app existed. so i think we still going to see quite a lot of development on the app side, how it develops, models for using it and how it would interact with you and me. >> host: and finally, mr. vestberg, what do you say to somebody who can look out and see all these brand names and all this new technology and words that perhaps they've never heard before, and they're staired of the -- scared of the technological future? >> guest: of course, my first answer, don't be scared about the technological revolution because that is really bringing lots of benefits. and i think what you see out here, that's what we're creating in the whole mobility together around the world. now we see the innovation of it, and that's what i'm talking about, the second phase in a network society. and it's bringing a lot of efficiencies, both for you and me, for enterprise and for our society. so i don't think anybody should be afraid of it. i think the technological

revolution is a must for us to actually handle all the growth that we have on this planet. >> host: hans vestberg is the president and ceo of ericsson. he's been our guest on "the communicators." and that was hans vestberg, ceo of the ericsson company based in sweden. up next on "the communicators," a visit to the intel booth. and here at the intel booth at the consumer electronics show we are joined by brand manager bryan deaner of intel. mr. deaner, what is intel introducing here at the 2012 consumer electronics show? >> guest: well, peter, we actually have a pretty exciting show this year. i think the big story for us is really about the experience that the consumers really have. and intel really has great technology and products that really power a lot of the, um, the new ultra books and smartphones, and some of the things we're going to talk about we really have sort of the

brains behind these technologies. we have a really interesting reason to be here in that we're really the innovation of the industry. >> host: well, mr. deaner, one of the themes of the show this year seems to be ultra books. what is an ultra book? >> guest: ultra book is all about mobility, all about take what you kind of know about performance and computing and really putting it in a new, a new style and a new design. >> host: are these ultra books here? >> guest: these are all ultra books right now. >> host: they look like laptops. >> guest: there's a couple of things that make an ultra book. it starts with the intel second generation core processers, that's the heart and the brains of the overall book. but what you'll see very quickly is while it has the full performance of a traditional laptop, it's anything but traditional. what you really have is a couple of things. you have a really sleek design and a really sort of elegant design. they're all manufactured to be less than one inch thick, they're also ultra responsive. so what we find is we love our smartphones that you turn on, our tablets sort of pop right

up, in our laptops we have it's typically about a 30-second boot time. when i saw ultra responsive, when you open these up, it really has about a 7-second start-up, and you're working with your applications and your programs. so it's really highly responsive. that's the second thing. there's also some new security built into this that's brought to you by hardware, software and hardware based on intel that really help with your overall identity protection when you're going online commerce and e-banking and these sorts of things and overall with your identity protection. there's just some new security features that we've built into ultra books, so it really is a couple of things baked into one. >> host: now, aye seen a couple different manufacturers here for the ultra books. do you work with all manufacturers across the board? >> guest: in fact, our customers are really excited about this. we have about 75 designs coming out this year alone. we introduced it in the last quarter of last year, but really this year is the year of innovation, so it's really a new

category, and we're really ushering in a new era of computing. in fact, what you see as it gets toward the latter part of the year, we don't have specific designs here, but you'll see these ultra books that are convertible so they'll have sort of the traditional aspect of the keyboard and the performance, but you'll also have touch screen and screens that sort of either flip around or turn over, so it becomes both a laptop, you know, in the form of an ultra book as well as a tablet. so you're really getting two devices in one. >> host: something else that's come out that intel is introducing is a new smartphone. >> guest: that's right. so the new -- so the new smartphone, we just announced yesterday. and it was, this is just a sample design, right? so this isn't the actual new smartphone, but what we've announced is that we have, um, the chips that go inside and the technology that's going inside of smartphones. so it's based on our intel atom processer, and we announced yesterday a deal with lenovo as well as a multiyear, multiunit

deal with motorola. so you're going to start seeing more and more smartphones based on intel inside. >> host: so what is special about this phone here? >> guest: so, i guess, a couple of things. first of all, it's based on -- [inaudible conversations] there we are. i think there's a couple of special things about it. one is it's based on the intel atom processer, so there's a great level of performance and also a very low power. so you can really be sort of working on this all day, and it doesn't get hot even if you're doing really intense applications. there's a, it supports full hgmi output so you can run video if you want to. you can do really interesting and advanced things around 3-d video imaging, um, and a number of different new things. yeah. >> host: what about security features? >> guest: so security, actually, with our purchase of mcafee

last year, there's a whole new mobile security suite. so i think people sort of understand the whole notion of security with their ultra books and their laptops, and they maybe think about it for smartphones, but they haven't done anything about it. so with mcafee, there's a new mobile security suite where you can download an app and get a higher level of security and confidence on your smartphone. >> host: bryan deaner, as brand manager, what does that mean? >> guest: well, i think what that means is i think people really focus on sort of the fun things and the productive things they can do with their devices, but they also want to make sure they're secure and smart, what they're doing online, the footprints they're leaving and the transactions they're making are secure. so intel is really working with our new partner and our new company, mcafee, to make sure we're providing a level of security both at the software level and at the hardware level. so really we're trying to protect you on a couple different levels. >> host: how important, you have quite a large display here at the consumer electronics show. a lot of people down here.

how important is ces? >> guest: well, ces, it really starts our year every year. it's more of a consumer-focused industry show, we really create the products that go into and i think really help bring to life a lot of the other sort of phones and laptops and other devices you see around the show, smart tvs, things like this. we're really one of the building blocks that go inside that really help the industry find innovation and new intelligence. >> host: how's the fiscal health of intel given what the country has gone through the last couple years? >> guest: we had our best year ever last year, so earnings are coming out next week, so we had a really strong year. and i think what we find is a couple of things that we're really noticing. one, people want to have more and more devices, not less. so everyone has a laptop or a tablet or now an ultra book, but you also want to have your smartphone and a couple different devices as well as different designs within a family. so i think people are, one,

buying multiple devices and, two, in the emerging market as well as in established markets, we're really seeing a nice runup. we're almost countercyclical to what's happening in the economy because, i think, of the innovation and the new product we bring to market. >> host: bryan deaner is a brand manager at the intel corporation. we're here at the consumer electronics show in las vegas. for the past several weeks on "the communicators," we've been showing you some of our coverage from the consumer electronics show in las vegas. the show happened in january of this year. if you'd like to watch any of those previous programs or any "communicators" programs, go to c-span.org. >> coming up on c-span2, louisiana governor bobby jindal addresses the annual conservative political action conference. then general electric chairman and ceo jeffrey immelt gives the opening remarks at a forum on the future of american manufacturing and global competitiveness.

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