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on campus and over 85 on line once a week at 92,000 growing over 100,000 within a year. as one of the fastest growing universities in the countries as well and is unique that residential as well as online become and it is a school that has both undergraduate and graduate law school. we are opening up a medical school of film and arts,

aviation. it is a fantastically growing and very energetic school. >> since the death in 2007 who has been the head of the school? >> an attorney and chancellor and president coming and he is working as the general counsel one. he was the chancellor and one of the unique things about the transition as people wondered what was going to happen in the university since he was such a prominent person and have a prominent role in the university. but since 2007 when he passed away and jerry falwell, jr. took the reins of the university and continued to grow at exponential rates and expanding with additional schools and additional programs and it's even remained exponentially increased in the expansion from a school that his 6,500 acres of

property. >> what are your concerns as a dean and vice president about online, which? >> certainly the concern of anyone with regards to online is to make sure it is as rigorous as the residential program. one of the unique things about online program is that you are able to get experienced individuals in all walks of different areas of life that otherwise would not be full-time teachers because the ceos or business leaders were curious kinds of fields as an entrepreneur and they don't want to teach full-time that they will be about to be some of your top level experts that can teach on-line so we give them the opportunity to have interaction with them and we are very vigorous about the online program to make sure that there is parity in terms of the trigger and equality between that and the residential

program. we have to be but we want to make sure that it maintains a high quality. >> when you say that liberty is a christian university, what does that mean to you? >> he said if its christian it ought to be better and we believe of course jesus christ as our lord and savior and that means everything we do. we want to make sure that all we do glorifies the lord that we serve, and we want to make sure that in everything we do we do it not with mediocrity but we wanted to let the very best so it may surprise people but it's the number-one debate team in the country for over a decade. we are the only school ranked number three in all debates, ranking systems and we have achieved that multiple times. the last is a school that started in 2004 that obtained only 18 months faster than any other law school in history and fact you can't even beat that

record. you can tie it and you can't have productivity quicker than that. so the achievements just since 2004 phenomena in terms of the competitions. we are very competitive. we just won the national court competition in the constitutional law and we've won the entertainment program two years in a row, and you can go on and on regarding the accomplishment. but with an expression of our face it also means of excellence. >> we invite you one book tv to talk about your book e turtle vigilance knowing and protecting your religious freedom to read our religious freedoms in america in your view under attack? >> i think they are under attack but we have no more religious freedom than people oftentimes realize and so sometimes our religious freedom more times often than not is lost because people what are in the authority not knowing what the program is. someone might think that they

have to cleanse the school as any kind of religious to not violate the constitution but in fact it is more on the side of equal access opportunity so that we have both viewpoints religious and secular with student clubs or after school operations and programs and so forth but i think it is under attack and there are people that have agendas or goals to ultimately remove expressions of the squares so we mitigate in those areas that of all of the things we do, for example, through the public interest law firm's 100% of all we do, 95 presenters' resolved 100% of the time is through education because of the misinformation that's out there and once you set the record straight people can make a right decision. >> what's take some examples

that our viewers are probably familiar with. bible clubs in public high schools. are they allowed? >> bible clubs are allowed. there's a federal law called the equal access past and 84 and affirmed by the united states and there's also the decision in 2001 that talks about after-school programs that may not be student initiated, could be a bold initiative but their after-school programs and those are compensable as long as the school or after-school club that's not student initiated or student-led has other secular programs or secular viewpoint on the subject matter of untypically the school must also allow religious viewpoints on these subject matters. >> nativity scenes on the property. estimate that as an example of where there's a lot of misinformation, and misinformation as we simply cannot have a scene on the

property in fact that's not true. the only area you need to look at is if it is a publicly sponsored nativity scene on public property benefit is just the religious symbols a would be found to be unconstitutional but a few bad within the context the santa clause reindeer it is constitutional and there are many cases holding that position in fact even the united states set that precedent so that is one of the areas there is a misunderstanding you can have a scene because it is unconstitutional and isn't true. >> ten commandments in the courthouse. >> before 1993 there were the cases in the history of america there was only a couple but in 1999, there was a program led by different organizations to follow suit and that's more in some respects than the nativity

scene but it is the essentially true. you can have the ten commandments standing alone in certain situations like in texas where the supreme court upheld a monument that had been there for 40 years. was there with others but it wasn't a very close in proximity to the other monuments the were there and the court said the permissible. on the other hand if you have the ten commandments standing by itself that may lend itself to a constitutional challenge but it's been upheld in the context with other symbols or documents pertaining to the law because the commandments head of the government. the seal on the website has the ten commandments and if you go to the united states supreme court there's a lot of different symbols and kind of depressions the most prominent there are different ways of the ten

commandments both inside and outside the supreme court itself. >> why do you have the pledge of allegiance on the front? >> that's another situation that has been addressed and under attack of the welsh of allegiance being unconstitutional because the 1950's under god when there was added to the pledge and there has been a tax on that really put them on the very beginning. that is part of the issue of just simply efforts by some to eliminate religious words or phrases from the history and the culture and of course the battle was still going on and went to the united states supreme court and they ultimately dismissed the case but it's never decided but i suspect if the court does ultimately decide that issue head-on with it will find it is

three the >> if georgetown university is right now we're seeing the flocks on the birth control issue how would you address it? >> we would file a federal lawsuit if we were forced to violate our religious beliefs and we did file liberty versus - are and it's referred to as obamacare and spending in the united states supreme court. we've raised not only the constitutional lack of authority end of commerce clause but also a violation of the first amendment religious the exercise clause by forcing the liberty and its employees to provide funding or abortion or sterilization so we wouldn't take of lying down and we would defend our constitution. >> where did you grow up? >> florida most of my life and went to school in tennessee and a seminary in michigan and then

law school of the university of kentucky. >> how long have you been at liberty? >> since the early 1990's and liberty counsel with the national public interest law firm and for that became a friend of dr. falwell and pat symbol with back to thomas jefferson which church wasn't about to hold land or disposal of other corporations and the goblet over to under the constitution and from those quote dr. full billion talking about the idea of law school and the was in the 90's he has made the first time to be the dena and i declined, the second time i declined in the third time i became the dean for 2,006.

i have a couple more books in the process of developing to read about the freedom we do have in america and activism and motivation. i've been moved by reading biographies of others like them so my desire is to impose a new generation to respond we've been talking with match, the dean of the university law school of the university also professor of law and of this book the turtle vigilance the handbook for defending your religious rights. thank you.

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