his speech. he lost 15 pounds in two weeks and he was exhausted and determined as a growing commitment for human rights crystallizing in this moment. he knew the risks. if he pushed the southerners to far, they would deliver on his threat to lead the convention and split the party in two. >> the final day dragged on with no air conditioning the inside temperatures poured into the 90's. but before the we read delegates to vote, they would have to sit through more than an hour of speeches condemning the civil rights to the [applause] >> you shall not crucify this house on this cross of civil rights. [cheering] stomach as the philadelphia police patrol the awls, humphrey

anxiously awaited his term. he was only 37-years-old and about to confront the most powerful forces in american politics with his own future and that of the democratic party hanging in the balance. .. to support a minority report, a report that spells out our democracy, a report that the people of this country can and

will understand and they report that they will enthusiastically acclaim on the greatest u.s. civil rights. for those who say that we are rushing this issue of civil rights, i say to them, we are 172 years late. [cheers and applause] >> humphrey to a line in the sand and his words reverberated throughout the country and 60 million people listened. >> the time has arrived in america for the democratic party to get out of the shadows of state right and to walk forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> after the speech, the applause lasted over 10 minutes. when the final vote was taken on the civil rights plane, humphrey

and his supporters won a stunning bit jury -- vic three. in the middle of the noisy crowd, bulk on her lead to dixiecrat out of the hall and out of the democratic party. c-span: a lot to ask about you. dixiecrat, who are they? >> guest: that they were southerners who sort of began to oppose german because truman's earlier stands on civil rights that year with the southern segregation, something like 17 states in total, the mississippi and the carolinas and alabama were some of the front people. and they were just did not want any type of civil rights. and they wanted truman defeated. and so they put it own candidate. c-span: and they talked about

the video. where did you get the black-and-white video we saw? >> guest: its new rails almost the entire way. it's a big collection of national archives in college park. it's public domain, so is wonderful resource. there is also the shots of him on the podium inside of the shots of the minnesota crowd came from a man from south minneapolis who had a 16-millimeter camera and he must have run out of film or some thing was a crank in a few seconds of him on the podium was silent. and so that we did this on the audiotape and synced it up to him speaking so you could see him speak. c-span: here is a familiar face, at the time strom thurmond. >> it's another absurd to dominate the country by force and to put into effect these on

colorful proposals he has recommended on the guy of the so-called civil rights tonight tell you the american people from one side to the other had better wake up and up for such a program. and if they don't come the next thing would be a totality and states in these united states. [cheers and applause] >> those people with bad people and we'd spend our lives being powerless in the face of their power, their craftiness and their determination. to keep the submerged in american life. so this was for us a morality play of the greatest invention and old hubert was her knight in shining armor.

c-span: you don't hear people say roger wilkins who just said it these are bad people. did you ask them about why he said that? >> guest: well we had been talking about it. he just thought that their heart they were segregationists and they were racists at the heart and he just thought that people are never going to do anything good for african-americans. he felt thereabout at the core in that way. you know, morally i guess. c-span: strom thurmond, was the governor of the state? when did he switch parties? >> guest: after the civil rights bill. ill see you later on of course at the 60 republican convention next to richard nixon. c-span: one of the things in the first clip that we saw with reference to 60 million people were listening. i know that was on television,

the very few people could even see that. how important his radio in the states? >> guest: is the medium. every 60 million maybe 182 million other in the country. that is a pretty good size. when you consider the political convention, that's a pretty good group of people. when it first are they early on that it must've been 60 million. the tv was on the east coast sort of close circuit was to a few stations in d.c. the president watched it on tv. i very not work in the east coast with it. the tv was really nowhere else. the radio was -- c-span: he was running for the senate. just go yes, he declared in the spring. c-span: i will say this next clip will surprise a lot of people. that's run nesting of see what i

mean. >> the speech ignited a senate campaign and put in front of banner on the national stage. first lady eleanor roosevelt remarked to the press that he has that spark of greatness and he caught the attention of other prominent democrats. >> not to ronald reagan in hollywood. ronald reagan speaking to you in hollywood. you know me as the motion picture actor. but tonight i'm just a citizen and often a little impatient with the promises republicans made before they got control of congress a couple years ago. he must have new faces, democratic faces. i take great pride in presenting my friend from minneapolis, mayor hubert h. humphrey, and candidate for united states president. >> in november 1948 to make a determined one historic upset and making his area of his own, hubert h. humphrey became minnesota's first democratic

senator. >> been a romantic and idealistic person when he went to washington in 1948, think he probably thought this was going to be mr. smith goes to washington and his place of marble monuments just waiting for him to come there and change the world and crusade and very quickly his dreams and idealism collided with reality. >> to reality with a senate dominated by the same dixiecrat he had with his speech the night before and they would not belizean hubert humphrey. >> astrolabe and the destroyer as the democratic property peered hubert humphrey to quote unquote make her lover. -- i never felt so lonesome and so unwanted and all my life as i did in those first few weeks and

one says the united states senator. c-span: where did you find the ronald reagan club? >> guest: that was in the humphrey collection. it was actually radio program for the government national league east worker union. just speaking for union on the unit program. it is the screen actors guild president. c-span: we knew he was a supporter of fdr, but i never heard he was outwardly supporting hubert humphrey. did they know each other? >> guest: they were good friends. in fact, ronald reagan had a dedication to humphrey when he was in the white house. i don't know the details of it, the data in a syndication. you state at the ranch of the time and they were close friends. c-span: the woman who was the announcer and then a reader is very eastern. he wish he? >> guest: she's retired dance professor from cartoon college in minneapolis and she has

really not that much of this. she's just a natural. what is remarkable about it is that she read through the entire script one time without seeing the film. reiko why did you pick her? >> guest: we thought a film earlier and we talked to richard dreyfus than we thought to a couple other people. garrison keillor and it occurred to me over it. upon humphry siphoned over the 60s he's kind of a painting on the wall. he's always sort of nonexistent. of course he's right in the middle of things and all the attention is taken away from him and is partly his fault because he gave thanks to wake him was she about kennedy, johnson, humphrey. i was afraid if i had a famous person may rate it would become about that person again and humphrey would get shadowed. so i decided to use someone that i liked and was the necessarily famous. although she sounds at the number of people, so people mistake her. she's got a wonderful voice.

reiko her name is mary easter. still in minneapolis? >> guest: she grew up in richmond during jim crow. so she has a sensitivity to the history. c-span: ticino hubert humphrey? >> guest: i don't think she did, no. c-span: 1948 elected assignment senate and then challenge jfk to the presidency and 59 and 60. we've got some film here to look into. ♪ >> in the spring of 1959, humphrey entered the presidential primary against a young senator named john f. kennedy. with more enthusiasm than money, he met the media at every opportunity. >> how do you how do you think your race is going quite >> it's been an uphill fight, but i think we've been doing quite well. >> would you mind telling me what to spend those most exciting part of the campaign? >> right now. you might thank you, senator.

>> i'll tell you this is good fun. ♪ >> i love this nation. i think about two centigrade nation for the whole world to be typecast in the cold light in the hope and peace of the entire nation and the president must be for the entire nation, given the philosophy and fundamentals of democracy and what we stand for and then he must be able to mobilize action and carry out these programs so that the dream can be fulfilled. >> while it is generally believed that john kennedy and richard nixon of the first televised debate, humphrey and kennedy met months earlier. >> in 1960, i had the opportunity to expose america to a number of my ideas.

i was determined that kennedy attacked as many of my proposals and policies as possible. [applause] >> this week i had the opportunity to debate with mr. nixon. i feel that i should reveal that i have a great advantage in that debate. and i'm not referring to any length makeup man. [laughter] the advantage that i have had was mr. nixon had just debated with khrushchev and i debated with hubert humphrey and that gave me an edge. c-span: how close did he come to beating jfk? >> guest: well, the primary -- i think he probably lost by 10% in the primary and the west virginia wisconsin primary. but he didn't really have a chance. but that is another whole story. kennedy's campaign was pretty

low finance and didn't have a lot of money and he was really kind of -- of the sort of got out i would have to say. her stories of people handed 5-dollar bill; for things that went on during the campaign that didn't have much of a chance. he was expected to win in the state and its leader michael best las vegas expect to win because it isn't so much that he went after the non-catholic but it was largely across the state and think you'd be able to win there. and you know, it is interesting because they think if he would've won the primary, it would've had a challenge for linda john and also wanted to run. c-span: and the end, where did you get your financing? >> guest: all kinds of places. hamlin university in st. paul gave me seed money. and then from 37 or 38

organizations -- individuals who received money over the years. the shipments under the media and democracy which was the shipment foundation. gave me a large sum in the mental that helps. minnesota humanities commission on historical society, afl-cio, andrea foundation and doing andrea's family and his brother all over the place ended up being about $600,000 in about 200,000 minutes a. >> guest: i started out otherwise, but i really wanted to look for the personality. we interviewed 52 people. the aroma with them and the closer they got the more they like him and it was really difficult. it's hard by the way to do a

story about someone who is a good person. it's much easier with affairs in mergers and all kinds of other things. but i couldn't really find much. he had flaws and make mistakes, but i asked bill myers did he do anything bad? he wasn't a bad person. c-span: bill moyers is one of the greatest legislators in american history. what does that come from? >> guest: well, one with every three days. and you know, to fix pretty much everything in my life. everything affecting our lives came from somewhere hubert humphrey in one place or another. he knew how to get things through. at the end he says he could set lofty ideals, that he could work

the pipeline. you know how to work the legislature and that's why is that he knew how to get these things done. he'd have an idea and get it done. c-span: 64 civil rights bill. let's watch. [inaudible conversations] >> now, sir come you cannot be admitted? >> live? >> i'm not going to serve you. >> because my race? >> i'm not going to serve you. >> cease and desist with the legislative battle. if a bill is passed coming equal access to employment, school and public places would become law.

but mistrust of the government ran deep in the community and pass them in the full spark a second civil war. and the injustice inflicted upon in this country by uncle sam is criminal. don't blame georgia for injustices. the government is responsible for the injustices. >> just keep them cool. pass a civil rights bill. most negroes have an idea of what's going on politically in the country and take the civil rights bill as new method of placating the negroes. >> you think is going to help the negroes? >> is the filibuster began, the battle lines are clearly drawn. >> negroes have rights. they've got a house in nature with the same benefits as other people and if every opportunity in the world.

there's more opportunity here than any nation in the world. i do know of any please where they have as good of housing and automobiles and dishwashers and washing machine than in the united states. >> unless the congress must act because the congress recommends the people and this means a civil rights program before congress and it will be here and i want to tell you now that were going to carry through on this program if we have to stay here all year. >> how long will you debate this bill? only after long bitter fight. humphrey insisted on a new softer strategy that would change the legislative game. >> it was also an impossible task because he was leader of the senate and break filibusters and 12. >> to see how things get done in

america politicians if you said it would hubert humphrey did in the senate. in 1964 civil rights act. >> to see if we were trying -- >> he had regular strategy meetings. he organized a new library. get people on watch all the time and enlisted one colleague in the senate to focus on each title of the bill. he was brilliant in the way he organized the forces to challenge the filibuster and press the argument. >> a lot of video, a lot of film was it james farmer at those stepping up to buy the ticket? right behind that, jesse jackson? where did you find that collects >> guest: cbs accountable civil rights footage from the 60s somewhere in the warehouse a couple years ago. it's obviously to pay for kind of footage.

i found in those clips a lot of material, probably three hours of material i had. as soon as i saw it and it was some good. i'm a little surprised they have to have permission for the saints and i was a little to price them at, but i'm grateful they did. c-span: by recent price? >> guest: first of all the dixiecrat segment, we could just they're just basically blatant racist and called racist by a bunch of men who are narrating. i did think they would want that. i thought it might be a problem to have it out there, but they let me use it was glad. c-span: you had malcolm x? inuit strom thurman themed things. where was that come from? >> guest: malcolm x was from the cbs footage and strom thurmond came from -- it was a documentary on the 63 march that was put out the usaid in that

was along outlaw documentary. opposed to what is your philosophy -- by the way, how long is this? >> guest: just under two hours. if the pbs two hours, hours 50 minutes, two hours. reiko what is your philosophy about i.t. and these people? how must you assume they know? >> guest: i assume they know nothing. we i.d. him at least three times. each person with the pen to pass along their off-camera. president carter once. c-span: here is hubert humphrey and strom thurmond and debate. >> the shutdown cut the public's attention, but no cameras were allowed in the senate. so humphrey and thurman agreed to take a piece of debate to the television ideas. >> we know americans will have two be negroes will be denied equal access of public accommodation decided travels a

chance for a place to rest any if not for the accommodations, its invasion of private pasties. this will lead to an accretion of private life. and the city of birmingham alabama 21963 there was nordman is that if you're going to have a restaurant in your going to permit negroes to come inuit of the seven-foot wall down the middle of the restaurant dividing the way from the color. how foolish is this innocent that an invasion of private property? >> would've been a a country of freedom and the man has the right to use his own private property as he sees fit. we must remember that this bill creates new jobs. so therefore, whose jobs are at these negroes and minardi going to take? other negroes jobs away people's jobs? >> we must press on them to get it. the delay will be disastrous. >> after two months, humphrey

was worried feeling pressure from the president and civil rights leaders. finally, edward derksen broke the silence with 22 amendments. with civil rights leaders demanded a tougher stand, humphrey pleaded for patience into derksen into a one-on-one closed door session. two weeks later they surfaced with the bill impact and derksen in the spotlight. >> i for one want to publicly express my admiration and my sincere thanks for what i call service beyond the call of duty and putting country ahead of every other consideration. >> i say as much for you, my friend. >> we have lost a battle of course that we are not yet ready to surrender and our position this bill which we feel is the american way of life and a great

low at the right of dominion over private property that has been the genesis of our grapes. c-span: over the years i've heard rachel russell could've been president of the united states and it always struck me as odd because he was basically white separatists and all of a sudden it's very much a leader against this whole civil rights bill. why was he so respected? been accused on all kinds of other things. he was for children's schools. and never got way they agreed on almost everything. and he was a party person. wasn't someone like strom thurmond who would split off from the party. so i think he became sort of the dixiecrat spokesman in the democratic party with some of the others who wanted to leave at times. c-span: what part of the strom thurmond in that debate and he saw that debate quake

>> he was a democratic senator at that point i believe and i believe it was cbs. i think he was the narrator and that debate. this is one of the problems i have as i was trying to do a 15 minute segment on how the civil rights is passed and there's no cameras in the senate side to do the whole thing without ever been the room of the whole thing took place, suppose a difficult thing to do. one of the fines with the debate that took it outside. people couldn't see what is going on. there's a clock running on tv showing how long the filibuster was running. it really had public attention. this debate was a way to bring the whole thing to the people. it was on national tv. >> i went and looked at the vote totals and i think people might be surprised how it came out. and the house, the democratic party voted 61% for it and 39%

against it. the republican party for 80% for and in the senate, the democratic party voted 69% for it than 31% against it and the republican party voted 82% in favor and 18% against it. so it is so much different than it is today as far as the breakup of the party. and why was it a civil rights bill so important to your documentary? >> is one of the most important pieces of legislation. besides humphreys that it was the biggest accomplishment. c-span: in his life? >> guest: in his career. in his career it was. it's very much like the health care bill. the same kind of struggle in the same maneuvering that had to be done to get it done. the republican party at that point had a fairly good record on civil rights. it was really the dixiecrat with the real problem in the

coalition formed to get it passed was really what the republicans do tend to get it passed. so wasn't so much the democratic party was against it. it was just the ones i've met. the other problem is they'll have the 51% to get the bill passed, but they need 67 votes to stop a filibuster. now of course they think it is 60. but a 67 in those days would have been 67 votes passing the bill would be difficult. c-span: party to take sure that in years or 10 years or ever was? >> guest: it took about four years at the beginning and i got connected to another pbs station which will go unnamed and i spent about two years with them it just wasn't working at all and it got to be 2008 by this time, so i left and i went home and got myself a mac and started editing myself another editor, joe pao and edited the film and in 2009 sometime come at a grant

from wnet got interested in the rest of the process of getting on tv at that point. pbs was not interested for some reason. it was for some reason we've never been told. but american public television was really excited about it. back at 600 times in a couple cities. c-span: each individual station had to decide whether to put it on. from your documentary, here's hubert humphrey ran the 1964. when he was as vice president with lyndon johnson. >> we look to really equal partnership and the first two days we thought it would be that way. we would be a part of everything. of course including most dramatically humphries break with johnson in a cabinet meeting on vietnam.

>> only days into the new administration, the viet cong attacked an american base and pico and johnson caught the cabinet paint to sanction the bombing of north vietnam. >> johnson was not looking for advice, the validation and is actually johnson looking for ratification of what erd decided. he goes around and asking all these people come his advisers to tell them what they think about this decision to launch these attacks and humphrey announces he ranks with the mistake. >> johnson was furious with him. in the bombing of the north began. >> congress gave us this authority and on this 1964 combat to do what ever may be necessary. that's pretty far-reaching. the sky is the limit. >> while they may have been no limits on johnson's expansion of the vietnam war, there would now be limits on his vice president.

>> i knew him intensely for those years of the 60s and now is the most tortured. of his life as he was trying to be vice president, serving the president and is taking us to war in vietnam, even as he is misgivings as an independent tinker. >> after their public disagreement, humphrey was frozen out a ball discussion of vietnam. johnson cut off his privileges, reduced its staff, censored his speeches, tapped his phone and ordered his own staff not to speak to him. reiko vice president of the united states. how deep was that? how far did the president go? >> guest: you didn't want to be on johnson's bad side. he expanded the behavior to the rest of his relationship with humphrey. he still had a relationship because the great society

programs of all the rest. but he was cold and shut out of any discussion of vietnam and vietnam of course became an issue for the johnson presidency at one point. he was pretty cool. he basically wanted him to know that he was not to disagree with the president on anything. >> how outspoken was herbert humphrey at any time in his life about the split? >> guest: humphrey was not someone who hold grudges were barely talked about anyone else. he pretty much with it at part of me being vice president. that's as getting into. in fact he did say that at times. i don't think he would talk openly about it. he and bill moyers -- on the dvd there's a 15 minute conversation between moyers and humphreys from the journal as a bonus thing and he just talked about

johnson and they both agreed that he could be -- it was almost like an abusive relationship with people. he would be very kind and loving and do something wrong and he would shut you up for the next two months and then come out so you never knew where you stood with him. c-span: by the way, if someone wants this documentary, can i buy a? >> guest: shop pbs.org. c-span: shop pbs.org. how much? >> guest: has $24.95. other retailers have it, too. it's pretty much everywhere. c-span: everyone is at least our age that he ran for president and hunt the difficulty of going in and out of vietnam and here's what he sees her documentary. >> position to the war grew in since humphrey was defending it, humphrey lost his credibility. with not only his traditional liberal constituencies, did many

others as well. >> humphrey had positioned himself as the liberal wing of the democratic party. and it appeared to us that he treated that in for power. ♪ >> he seemed very quickly almost like a caricature of himself, given what he believed, how he was by nature and temperament versus what people were seen every night on my television screen. >> 300 body bags coming back every week, things that i don't think johnson are humphrey anticipated. the endlessness of it. they've been lied to by the pentagon about a few more bombs will do the job. >> at the end of humphrey's

first year as vice president, there were nearly 200,000 american troops on the ground in viet on. but there is another war going on inside the country. and while humphrey was sent to the frontline, johnson slipped into his own private in the white house. >> the world is taking its toll upon the patience of the country, a war that no one understood in so many people were bitterly opposed to, a war that was never explained to the american people. whatever the reasons for the people in american society, the fact is we are experienced a veritable revolution. >> by december of 1967, there were nearly 400,000 american troops in southeast asia and humphrey was sent on yet another trip to vietnam. but this time it would be different if humphrey was determined to see the war close

up. >> vegas a dog and pony show, just a holy propaganda proposition . we went to the military hospital comprehensive set upon going into the intensive care ward and he spent an hour and a half with the boys who were dying. and seeing on the ground was happening to our kids and seeing how corrupt they learn how quite willing they were two latter stand there forever and do the fighting, he came back changed and wrote a very, very strong report to johnson, telling him that we've got to get out of here. johnson called the a meeting and give humphrey note which said

hubert, give short upbeat report. progress good, then sit down and shut up. zero and in. c-span: hug monaco did you do the interview? >> guest: that would've been 2003 or 2004. >> guest: c-span: >> guest: he was emotional all the way through. he was emotional because he saw the suffering and he couldn't go in and then that these people before long time is against the war. c-span: was hubert humphrey ever dishonest about his feelings on the war. >> guest: i don't think so. i think that he would rather be wrong than a hypocrite. i think he believed what he was

saying. when he was for the war he was for the war. whether you agreed with them or not he was a lying about it. when he became against it, you got a lot tougher and didn't speak out as much. but i think he ever lied directly and i know that's hard for people who believe do is find out the time. that was part of the reason for doing the documentary because everyone just remember her humphreys sm windows looking when did johnstons bestowal time and had no mind of his own. he runs into the vice presidency. c-span: when he ran 68 there was a plank in the platform that you talk about in your document. >> the antiwar delegates would

be led by eugene mccarthy and senator george mcgovern of south dakota. to win the general election, humphrey needed their support. mcgovern was on board, but mccarthy hesitated. >> mccarthy told me in early august, prior to convention that he would be able to come out somewhere in the middle of september. after all, cheat and myself had a rather long friendship and we were hoping the friendship was surprised. >> time is running out and the only way humphrey could avoid fad in chicago was to bring together a johnson and antiwar democrats. with only days remaining until the convention, hunt and nixon were invited to the lbj ranch. while nixon's visit was well publicized, johnson's forbade humphrey to tell the press.

humphreys at the opportunity to present johnson with his own proposal to end the war and unite the party. >> i presented reducing forces, reducing bonding and medina struck in vietnam and negotiating our way out of it. he was furious with me. i remember he said that to son-in-law's in your proposal would leave them at the mercy of the enemy. he became very personal about it. >> working against the clock, humphrey wrote a compromise peace plank that was agreed to by all sides, including the president's closest advisers. >> been hubert b. and vice president bean vice president as well as the presidential candidate had declared with the white house and the president squashed it.

and he insisted that the resolution we had replaced by a very pro-vietnam war resolution. >> by then we knew that hubert wanted a peace plank and the platform to end the war and we knew that and we knew why it didn't happen. >> i don't know i talking about it was so painful. >> the footage we saw at the ranch come you say that lyndon johnson did not talk about the fact we had a meeting. >> guest: the footage actually came from the lbj library. john spent time -- i guess for historians have actually turned out to be a nice thing to have. he has someone follow him around with a 16-millimeter camera at the end of the month. the president not, something to show what happened. so those are outtakes from the

mud that he spent with the two of them. the news we can tell and it's hard to give lyndon johnson it's hard to know. he was almost to the end of the election was probably more interested in mixing becoming president and humphrey. the mini as we can tell the reason that michael best-loved has done a lot of research that we didn't want to be the president of us to weight of humphrey got elected he would win the war or at least find a different end to it. and keep his legacy intact. and that didn't change until late where nixon did this thing with a vietnamese governor made, that johnson can do finally came and realized he meant his texas. c-span: here's footage of the documentary that shows that democrats themselves even had cold hubert humphrey and teddy kennedy.

>> with a small group of advisers, humphrey returned to his home in rural minnesota to pick up the pieces and plan his campaign. >> i remember so well at september 6 years after the convention, the whole environment of politics had come apart. it had become polluted and destroyed in -- and violent. the war in vietnam exceeded the unpopular. the democratic committee unable to function with little or no money. i was 20 points behind in the pool. politicians were leaving me like i was a contagious disease. >> comfrey suffered from the sense that things are out of control and he was in a administration that had lost control. it came to the issue of vietnam. >> absolutely intent there's

never a day when you could relax. >> i believe the republican candidate owes it to the people to come out of the shadows. >> youth had human excrement turned to you by a protester makes every other protester the enemy.

>> how badly with the defeated by richard nixon? >> guest: he lost a one half of 1% of the popular vote. he had certain areas that he didn't carry including a few others. but the popular vote is really close. less than one half of 1%. c-span: during the documentary. where does that come from? >> guest: he dealt with the audiotapes of humphrey were a lot of it came from what he did his autobiography he sent cassette tapes at the time. he recorded chairman to work for him and works it into an autobiography. he wrote inside the senate. he was better speaking, so we

spoken to the tapes and is thankful that the tapes are still around and that's what i used to make converts them to a digital format. >> here's how you treated this world after he was defeated. >> comfrey was out of public office for nearly 25 years he returned to minnesota returned to teach. he was returned to the senate by the largest majority of his political career. after an unsuccessful run for president in 1972 he began to final battle, cancer. then in november of 1977, his colleagues began the first joint tribute to a single senator in u.s. history.

>> we asked you here so they could tell you we love you. [applause] >> mr. speaker, knowing full well the dangers of what i am about to do, i yield as much time as he wishes to consume to the same senator from minnesota. [applause] >> and i know where i'm standing. and standing by the states gives the state of the union address. my goodness. [applause] >> cuba's voluminous dance pop

domestic leagues and he loved just a palpable humanity and that man at christmas with family installed a toll-free 800 number and it sounds so he could call hundreds of friend and say goodbye. and on friday the 13th of january 1978 hubert humphrey died peacefully at his lake, minnesota. as body lie in state and washing 1,050,000 pre-freezing cold temperatures to say goodbye c-span: 66 years old. linda johnson was 64 when he died. how sick was the?

i do remember. i remember the speech. we were in business until a year later, so we didn't televise it. as i televised at the time? gusto that was a house candidate had. one of the robotic cameras this kind of rigid, but it was in the house. c-span: how sick was the? >> guest: he died two months later any account third and had this remarkable spirit. one of the things they tried to get across in the film is he didn't take anything that tylenol. he wanted to live through his dad then went through and he just kept this attitude up. he was amazing. let me tell you about this e-mail. it's interesting i couldn't get into the film. richard nixon had been out since watergate. he died on the 13th of

january. he called nixon at christmas and said you're coming back to washington for my funeral and that's how you're getting back into washington. and he said now and humphrey said well, i'm a dying man of his dying wish and you're going to come back and he came back. in this at the end of the film. he said no president. i don't care what is done, should be finished in washington. you need to be here. talk about forgiveness, you know. so that's in the too. c-span: one audio clip comes from the book where he was talking about the way lyndon johnson treated him and we're about out of time, but let's just listen to this. >> it would be appropriate for me to invite my friends in the twin cities out for a boat ride. so i gave them the instructions, told them to meet me at the marine talk at 5:00.

then i put in my request for the bow. i was asked -- we have is that the manifest and i fire up the names of those that were to be on the boat with me, including of course their profession for their occupation. this is called for by the president. you didn't just take the boat out. you defile you as was there, their names, addresses and occupation or profession. well, about 4:30 i got a call from marvin watson at the white house and he said that i couldn't have the boat. and i said, what this is going to be very embarrassing to me. and he said this is the order of the president. i was most upset and thankfully very mad. i said marvin, i am going to be embarrassed. these are people from minnesota and will never understand how i could invite them on a boat trip

like this and not once had to cancel it. he said there is anything i can do about it. the president has said no boat. c-span: also, another story tells about how he was only about two sprott planes in the united states and jet planes at the window receives. just that there was a whole set of rules. you have to wonder because it's almost as if he allowed to plan the whole thing in pulled the plug at the last minute to make it more difficult. but it's really hard to tell. he never allowed them to come to camp david. never was on air force one. one of the things that president carter did in humphrey's last few months was he invited him to camp david and me spent the weekend together just talking to camp david and that's when president carter learned who he was because he had been political adversaries. he wasn't treated as the vice president basically. i have to say i think probably

anyone who would've been led to johnson's vice president would've had to deal with that and people told me mccarthy who was second choice that he would've been just basically, you know, would've been awful. c-span: where were you born? >> guest: minneapolis. c-span: where did she go to school? >> guest: north minneapolis high school. i left maybe a month after high school on the road with a rock 'n roll band for seven years. c-span: where were you doing? >> guest: playing bass and trumpet a lot. i played music all my life and did a lot of things and then went back and went right through a masters program. i decided to go back. the kids are getting older. c-span: how many have you produced in your life? >> guest: and what drew her to be announced associate producer to another producer.

then, i coproduced one for hdtv, which was called restore america with abdullah are two different states and did restoration projects. the first one i did, with a caption under scottsboro boys, selected a pretty good initiation. in 1999 i did my first independent film, which is called the heart at astor place about an african-american settlement in minneapolis. and why did that come in the same moment i was filming the humphrey film and then i did it maccarthy and then i did museum installations, chair pieces for president clinton and vice president mondale for their speech is another consulting work along the way, but mostly humphrey for the last 10 years. c-span: so if someone wants to see the two-hour documentary, the art of compromise, hubert humphrey, where they get it? >> guest: www.pbs.org. or 1800 shop pbs.

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