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c-span: at the very beginning, let me ask you the correct way to pronounce your name. >> noah ben artzi-pelossof. c-span: where does it all come from. >> ben art si's my father's name, and pell soft is my stepfather's name. c-span: how old are you? >> guest: 19. c-span: when did you first think about writing this book? >> guest: i don't think any 19-year-old wakes up in the morning and saying, today i'm going to write a book. today's going to be the day that i'll write my book. obviously, i got an offer to do so, and i needed some time to think about it because it's not that easy. you have, you need a lot of courage to decide this kind of decision, and you need a lot of support which i had from my family. and then i decided to go for it.

c-span: do you remember your grandfather was shot in early november. >> guest: yes. c-span: 1995. >> guest: that's right. c-span: when did you start working on this? >> guest: the middle of december. c-span: was it an american publisher that wanted it -- >> guest: the french. c-span: the french? why the french? >> guest: they were the first one to come. c-span: and what did they want you to do? >> guest: to write a book about my grandfather and my, as they said, special voice. c-span: what's that mean? >> guest: um, that means that i will tell as i saw it the story of my grandfather, the man, the human side because there was a lot that has been said about the politician, peacemaker, soldier, prime minister. and nothing has been said about

the man. about my grandfather. and second was the thing that they thought that it could be good to hear a young israeli voice. my second thought was of the therapy, deal with my emotions, and the third a young israeli voice. c-span: this is about 118 pages. >> guest: -- 181 pages. >> guest: yes. c-span: was it hard to do? >> guest: it was easy. c-span: how did you do it? >> guest: first of all, i had an editor from the french company, and we worked together to shape the book in means of chapters, and let's say to measure what's going to be in what chapter. and then i sat down to write it, and i wrote it in hebrew. and then it was translated, and i had to check the translation because this is a book that

i'm -- [inaudible] and it's going to be something that will escort me for years. and i don't want to make it, you know, like this. i want to make it -- although i did quick, it's not like i didn't think about it, i didn't pay attention to everything that was going in the book. so i had to check carefully the translation and to check that nothing had been changed because of misunderstanding of language. and that's it. c-span: where do you live permanently? >> guest: in israel. c-span: what town? >> guest: um, i live with my mother and stepfather in -- [inaudible] i'm staying five and six nights a week at my grandma's. c-span: where does your grandma live? >> guest: in tel aviv which is -- she lives in a suburb of tel aviv, and it is ten minutes' drive from my home. c-span: are you still in the military?

>> guest: that's right. i still have one year to go in the military. c-span: why do all young people in israel have to serve in the military? >> guest: because this is an obligatory service, mandatory. um, but it's also essential to the existence of the israeli nation. c-span: and what do you have to do? how long do you have to serve? >> guest: girls have to stay in the army for 19 months and boys for three years. c-span: when did you first go in? >> guest: i joined the army on august 15, 1995. c-span: you tell us in the book a little bit about basic training. >> guest: that's right. [laughter] c-span: what was it like? >> guest: no big fun. [laughter] it was difficult in terms of discipline because you have to wake up 5:00 in the morning and be downstairs, three floors. no living room. showered, dressed and prepared for the day in seven minutes.

c-span: and you say throughout the book from time to time that you've always been known as yitzhak rabin's granddaughter. >> guest: in a way. c-span: how does that work in the service? do people all say, oh, there she is over there? >> guest: no, no. the thing is i wasn't so recognized in the street. where i come from, my environment, my friends, my school, people knew. it wasn't like i was walking down the street and people said, this is the granddaughter. it's not like chelsea clinton. nobody knew me. but in the service there was one girl to find out because i looked familiar, and then she asked, and then she find out who i was, and then it took, like, five days, four days and all the girls knew who i was. but the thing is that it's attitude, how you perform yourself, how you present yourself. and be then related in terms of rabin's granddaughter, so it's

okay. -- [inaudible] c-span: for someone who's never heard of yitzhak rabin, who was he? >> guest: he was a great man. he was a man of honesty, of wisdom, of modesty. c-span: where was he born? >> guest: what? c-span: where was he born? >> guest: my grandfather was born in jerusalem. c-span: how about your grandmother? >> guest: my grandma was born in germany, but she came to israel when she was 5 years old. c-span: what different jobs did your grandfather have in his life? >> guest: a lot of military jobs. he grew up in tel aviv, and he joined, he went to boarding school, and he -- it was agriculture school. and he thought of becoming a water engineering. but then the battle for the establishment of israel had started, and he joined the --

[inaudible] and he fought for the establishment of israel. c-span: what was the pal monk? >> guest: it is -- c-span: what does it mean? palmach. >> guest: it's in hebrew. [speaking in native tongue] it's, let's say -- [inaudible] c-span: what was the purpose of the organization? >> guest: the purpose was to fight for the establishment of the state of israel. c-span: what was he ambassador to the united states? >> guest: after the war of '67, he was the chief of staff during the war. and after the war when he was declared hero of the war, he came to -- [inaudible] , and he said, well, i want to be the ambassador to washington. this happened in '68. c-span: and how long was he the prime minister? >> guest: for the first time, he was elected '74 and resigned in '77, and then came back to

office in '92 and was assassinated in 1995. c-span: what's your grandma like? >> guest: my grandma's fabulous, she's amazing. c-span: what does that mean? >> guest: she's a very intelligent woman, very strong one, very impressive one. she lived with my grandpa for 47 years which is a lot of time. and she

what will he do when he comes here? >> guest: just travel. c-span: how does someone like you who is in the military get to write a book and travel around the world to talk about it? >> guest: i got special permission. c-span: how long will you spend doing that, total number of weeks? >> guest: four weeks. this is one i got the permission to leave the country. it took two weeks to write the book in paris.

c-span: you actually wrote the book physically in paris? >> guest: some of the time mainly in paris because when i was writing at home, -- c-span: to write about things like your mother's divorce. >> guest: the main purpose of the book is to give a clear picture of my grandfather and what kind of the man he was. some of the issues like the divorce of my parents are things things -- i am on this. c-span: where's your father now? >> guest: my father lives --

c-span: you said in the book that he was wounded in the war? >> guest: not any more. c-span: is he still feeling the effects of that? >> guest: he has recovered. >> totally recovered? >> guest: he was paralyzed. c-span: what year was that? >> guest: it happen before i was born and my mom was pregnant with me. this is a picture of your step-father i believe in your mother. what is your mother like? >> guest: my mother is amazing. she is very intelligent. she is the best mom in the world. c-span: what is your step-father like? >> guest: he is great. all the publicity of had an detention, have you all stay together? through the assassinate and all? how do you do as a family? do you get together more than he is to? >> guest: we are very united,

we are very together. i wouldn't write this book without their support and help. c-span: what has been the hardest part of the last several months? >> guest: everything. c-span: what was the hardest part of writing the book? >> guest: the book was difficult in many terms. it was difficult to deliver it, but as i told you it was great therapy for me. it helped me. with my own thoughts and feelings. c-span: talk about your hand. you don't like your hands. >> guest: i hate them.

you say they are small. >> guest: they are small and full of freckles and they are fat. c-span: why did you feel the need to write about that? >> guest: they are like my grandpa's. c-span: the same shape? >> guest: they are smaller, they are really small. c-span: how often did you travel with your grandfather? >> guest: how often? not that often. i traveled with him as i remember three times. i came to the states with him. one was in 90 when we went to auschwitz together. and the third time was 1992,

when he visited the united states and then new york. c-span: what about the trip to poland? >> guest: it symbolized 50 years of the jewish resistance. and it was very interesting. we went to auschwitz and it was very interesting and. c-span: did you say somebody or age, the holocaust at least open to that point didn't mean anything to you? you said you had the same reaction as the older people. >> guest: we learned a lot about it in school. it was sort of a chapter of history. actually it is more like, it's

more, you feel where this happened and what has happened. we can't measure the damage of the holocaust. c-span: i remember when line you say -- who was? >> guest: grandma. c-span: you say we had have never discussed the holocaust. >> guest: yes. c-span: later you say, let walesa -- lech walensa what do you remember about him? al gore? and you say again i was not impressed. you'd seen the audiovisuals. >> guest: yeah, i was talking about the ceremonies held the day before when we went to auschwitz and i said that it was so different than the holocaust memorial day in school.

there was nothing to give me the feeling that it was here in poland, until we went to the camps, because until we went to the camps, it was just memorial ceremonies, okay? they were, let's say, impressions. you could be impressed by it but there was nothing too outstanding to say, hey this is poland. it happened here. and i was waiting for the feeling that, to feel that this necessarily happened in this land. and i found the answer for it the following day in auschwitz. >> what was the answer? what did you see? >> guest: i saw that actually happening there. i saw this sign in german, and the jewish who were there were -- repair design. it is the entrance of the camp.

it says that labor work -- i don't know how to translate english. it means that if you work, you get freedom. this is the term of the expression. so the that jewish in the camp were made by the germans to prepare this sign, which was -- it was a lie, because it wasn't a camp where people came to work. it was a camp where they came to die. so the would prepare the sign and tried to deliver a message that this is not what it is. and they wrote -- when you write a b like this, they put the big bubble with, on top of the small one, like it's not a real b so it's not the real.

[speaking in native tongue] nobody could pay attention to it. these are small things that you can see in the can. you can see that it was there. first of all it was very cold there, and then it rings you back to all the story about the holocaust, how cold the polish winter was. and then you brought to the buildings, and you see the bedrooms, and you see the pajamas and the amount of shoes they collected and the suitcases with the names and brushes, all kinds of brushes. tooth brushes, hair brushes polish is, brushes. and you can see dolls from babies, and you can see people's hair. you can see classes and amount of stuff there. and then you feel really how unmeasurable the holocaust is. c-span: do you have any sense of why there is so much hate in the

world that this kind of thing would happen? >> guest: i don't know, i can't explain. c-span: do you ever talk about it in school? >> guest: i remember saying to my mom, where was god? so i guess this is sort of the question that we can't find an answer to. c-span: how religious is israel as a country? >> guest: as i see it, you don't have to be religious in order to have a religion. so israel is religious in terms of our nationality as jewish as well. it's not only a religion. but there are a lot of non-orthodox people in israel, and there's a large group of orthodox people. and usually we get along quite well together, except for the group who use religion in a cynic way in order to earn

political goals. c-span: when you sit in israel and look at the united states, what do you feel about this country? how important is this country, because the person who is 19 years old? >> guest: in terms of? 's. c-span: your own survival as a country. where does the united states fit into this? as you probably know we have spent a lot of time talking about israel here. >> guest: i know. i think the united states is a guarantee to the freedom of israel and the middle east. write code to people feel positive about the united states in israel? >> guest: very much. c-span: anything negative about our relations with you all? >> guest: no, not where i come from and not as i see it. c-span: where did you go to high school? do you have high schools in israel just like we do here? is it a four-year school? >> guest: it's a three-year

school, yeah. i went for four years because i skipped junior high school because my elementary school was until eighth grade. so i went to high school in ninth grade, graduated 12. c-span: so where are you in school right now? in other words had to finish the 12th grade and then do the military? then what is next? >> guest: university. c-span: where are you going to do that? >> guest: i don't know, and thinking of israel because i don't see myself having a life outside of israel. so i think that university time is a good time to just get some air, fresh air. >> guest: would you come here? >> guest: i'm thinking about coming here. c-span: what would you like to study? >> guest: as i see it political science. c-span: where? >> guest: harper, it was. c-span: did you try to apply yet? >> guest: i didn't apply yet. c-span: how did you do with your school up to the 12 great?

>> guest: quite well. c-span: good grades. how did you do in writing? did you have a class in writing it all? did you get aids? do you have aids in israel? >> guest: it's 100, 100 i got 19. c-span: what about language? where did you learn how to speak english? >> guest: mainly in school because we take english from a very early age and for one year i had private lessons. and i watched when i was young a lot of television. and this is at home where i grew up, where a lot of the guests from out of or in countries come to visit, so you polish your english. c-span: do you ever talk english among your friends? >> guest: no. c-span: what language do you use? >> guest: hebrew. c-span: what other languages do you. >> guest: only hebron english although i studied arabic for five years. but i can't remember a word of

it. just like my name is know what in arabic. c-span: what's your favorite thing about living in israel? >> guest: everything, the weather, the people, everything. i like my life in israel. c-span: how big a country is in population? >> guest: 5 million people. c-span: do you know the breakdown, how many are heirs? >> guest: sorry. >> guest: . c-span: what about the government, the knesset? >> guest: i don't know. c-span: what was it like in high school? what kinds of things did you do there that's, did you have a chance to meet many americans, high school students? >> guest: there is an american school not far away from my house. but the start consular's and ambassadors children so they come and go easley, you know quick. so the population is not that stable. but i got to know some americane

friends. c-span: i know you mentioned this in the book, did you watch mtv? and eat at mcdonald's? what other things american do you see in israel? >> guest: a lot of things. israel is developing western country so you can see a lot of american stuff there, but it doesn't say that we don't keep our unique things as israel ends. c-span: what is unique to being an israeli? >> guest: it's difficult to say. it's the people, it's the atmosphere, it's the weather. it's the language. it's many things that you can point out and say, this is an israeli guy. we can recognize each other. c-span: what is a normal night. i mean i kept reading in here that you are out until 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning. what was that all about? do you party late at night over there in israel? >> guest: yeah.

c-span: give us a normal weekend. what do you do for fun? >> guest: we go out to clubs and it starts at 1:00 a.m.. c-span: it starts at 1:00 a.m.? why so late? >> guest: i don't know. that is the way it is. c-span: they stay open all night? >> guest: yeah, just like they are. i'm talking about tel aviv, because this is where i hang out. c-span: back to your book for a moment. where review the night your grandfather was shot, and when did you first hear about it? >> guest: i was in the rally with my brother. c-span: at the rally? where was the rally? >> guest: in tel aviv. c-span: what was the purpose of the rally? >> guest: say yes to peace and no to violence. and we were there, and we didn't stay in tilled and. we went after my grandfather speech.

and since we came back in separate cars, he reached home just five minutes before me. and when i enter the house, and i wanted to open the door, he opened the door from the inside. and it was called with the joy and happiness and the overwhelmed by the rally. and then i had to the home, and he was white. i couldn't understand what happened. and my stepfather was standing beside him and jonathan told me, he was shot. so it takes 60 seconds and we were in the car on the way to the hospital. and we didn't know what happened. c-span: how far was the hospital from where you were? >> guest: first of all we have to go to the gss. our general security service offices because my grandma called from there. so we went there, and she wasn't

there anymore. so we went -- they sent us to the hospital. it all took something like a half an hour or 20 minutes. my stepfather was driving really fast. c-span: when you got to the hospital, i remember reading in your book you had a tough time getting through the security. they didn't know who you were. >> guest: that's right. c-span: did that surprise you? >> guest: no. c-span: how did you finally get past security? >> guest: the gss person recognized us, because there were police officers there. the gss guys, most of them knew us and he cleared the way for us. [crying] how long from the time your grandfather were shot until the time you were told he had died? >> guest: my grandfather were shot, can't measure because i don't remember times.

he was still operated and i think it was something like an hour and we were in the hospital, or even less, and then we were announced. c-span: what is the jewish tradition once someone is dead? how much time the war they are very? >> guest: as it is possible. c-span: in this case how long was it? >> guest: he dies -- he passed away on the evening of the ninth between saturday and sunday. c-span: shot on what they? >> guest: on saturday. he died on saturday. c-span: and he was buried on? >> guest: monday. they didn't bury him on sunday because they waited for people from all over the world to a ride to israel. c-span: when did you first get asked to say something at the funeral? who asked you? >> guest: a friend of my grandfather and the adviser, and a friend of the family. he came up to me sunday morning

before we went to the knesset because my grandfather's coffin was put in the knesset. people could come there and pay their last honor, this is what they say. and he came up to me at my grandmas house the morning before we went to jerusalem and he said, we thought about anything that we should -- you should be the family representative in the funeral. c-span: why did they pick you? do you know? >> guest: i was a talented writer in the family. c-span: how much time did you have to write a? >> guest: i went that evening to try to write something but i couldn't because my head was such a mess rico i had words that didn't come out death sentences so i came back to right. my grandparents woke me up in the morning before the funeral. it's okay that you know what you want to say but you have to write it down, because you won't be able to just speak.

so i sat down and wrote it. c-span: could you read it? would it be hard for you to read in english? >> guest: i will try. c-span: have got it marter said he can see it. >> guest: please excuse me for not wanting to talk about the piece. i want to talk about my grandfather. you always awake from a nightmare but since yesterday i've been consciously awakening to a nightmare. it is not possible to get used to the nightmare of life without you. the television never ceases. is this the work? buy where? let's see. >> guest: i just don't know the word, and sorry. c-span: that's alright. >> guest: ceases to broadcast pictures g. of you and you are so alive economic touch you, but

only almost and i won't be able to anymore. grandfather you with a pillar of fire in front of the camp and now we are left in the camp alone, and in the dark and we are so cold and so set. i know that people talk in terms of national tragedy, and of comforting an entire nation. but we feel the huge void that remains in your absence when grandmother doesn't stop crying. few people really knew you. now they will talk about you for quite some time, but i feel that they really don't know just how great the pain is, how great the tragedy is. something has been destroyed. c-span: keep on. sure. are you alright reading? is this okay? if you want to finish it today

and. >> guest: you want me to finish it to the end? grandfather you were and are still a hero. i want you to know that every time i did anything i saw a glint front me. your appreciation and your love accompanied us every step down the road and our lives were always shaped by your values. you, who never abandoned anything, are now abandoned. and here you are, my ever-present hero, cold, alone, and i cannot do anything to save you. you are missed so much. others greater than i have already -- c-span: where is that? eulogized. >> guest: eulogized, right, eulogized you but none of them ever had the pleasure i had to feel the caresses of your arms, your soft hands, to merit your

warm handprints. that was reserved only for us. it's too difficult for me to continue. rakove okay. were you surprised at what the reaction was to this? did you have any idea that you would have? >> guest: no. c-span: you say that you got so many letters that you've couldn't write this book until you read all of those letters. do you have any idea how many letters you got from around the world? >> a couple hundred. c-span: what did they say? >> guest: they were very personal. that is why i couldn't answer them all, because there were huge amounts of them, and just to write a typed note, to send a typed note to all those people, wouldn't be the right answer for those letters because they were so personal.

c-span: are you going to eventually answer them? >> guest: i think so, even if it takes me two years, i will answer them. c-span: what do you think the impact will be on israel because her grandfather was assassinated? do you see any positive coming out of it? >> guest: it's too horrible for me to think that something positive will, but. c-span: what are the chances you think there will be lasting peace because one of the things you talk a lot about is peace in israel. do you have any hopes? >> guest: of course. i think my grandfather led us into a road, which is a one-way road and a concrete road to happiness and the final result whatever happens on the way will be piece. c-span: here is a quote. you were the only one who knew how to talk to your grandfather. do you remember who said that? >> guest: president clinton.

c-span: when did he say that to you? >> guest: is this an exam? in the funeral. c-span: did it surprise you when it came up to you and said that? how did he know that you were the only one who knew how to talk to your grandfather? >> guest: this is how we felt. c-span: he just surmised it? >> guest: yeah. c-span: how much contact have you had with president clinton? >> guest: none at all. just after the assassination when he came to israel and he went to mike grandfather's grave. c-span: you were also present when mr. arafat came to visit your grandmother. when did it happen? >> guest: it happened during the seven days of mourning. and he came to the house. the house was cleared from people. they said that the family is

very tired and were going to bed excessive security reasons. the house was cleared from people. they said that the family is very tired and were going to bed because of security reasons. c-span: how long did you stay? >> guest: i think something around 45 minutes. c-span: did you talk to them personally? >> guest: i was too embarrassed to say anything. c-span: what were you amazed about? >> guest: the fact that a former enemy and future friend is coming to our house. c-span: what did he say to your grandmother? >> guest: he talked to me a lot about my grandfather. he called my grandma and my sister. c-span: did that surprise you?

>> guest: he was very nice. behind this monster that we were describing all these years, there was a man and a nice one. c-span: what was your reaction when he left, among your family? >> guest: it was the surprise, i told you that. and the admiration for my grandfather, who had succeeded to make this man, to turn him from an enemy to a person who'd come to the house. c-span: did your grandfather spend any time teaching you about what israel is all about over the years you were with him? >> guest: i don't think he had to. i think those are things that you leaked through the years. you get them from a very early age and you don't have to talk clearly about it because you get

the idea from everything that's been said and everything that you do and everything in our life in israel. c-span: what year was it that you were one of 64 people chosen to go around the world to tell the israeli story? what year was that? >> guest: 94. i went to the exams, i applied for the delegation and i got in. there were 64 of us in pairs. c-span: who was your pear? >> guest: and we were spread around the world. we were sent to england. c-span: who were the other people? >> guest: he's a very nice boy from jerusalem. c-span: where did you go and how long read there? >> guest: we were there for a month. buy where? >> guest: in manchester london and oxford. c-span: what did you do for that month? >> guest: we held discussions

with teenagers our age in england about israel. c-span: had you ever been to england before? >> guest: yes. c-span: what did you find among your fellow students in england? >> guest: that they knew very little about israel. c-span: what did they know? >> guest: not a lot. just it's a jewish country, that's it. and they had things in mind, like we were driving camels and we were very orthodox and things that are not true. c-span: what was the first question you always got? >> guest: we didn't start with a question. we started with our presentation. so we first of all, we gave general facts about the country, its size, amount of people,

attractive places and then told about our lives as teenagers throughout what we do when we go out, would be to as hobbies, habits and stuff like this, and the differences which are not so big and the educational system. and then comes a time when we go to the army and then if the audience was interested in politics, this is the part or they could ask the political questions. from there it was an open session. c-span: you were right about the number of wars you been through. how many? >> guest: the whole list three but the intifada does not a war. c-span: what was the intifada? >> guest: what was it? c-span: you've included that in your list of where you saw violence and all. explain what the intifada was.

>> guest: the palestinians resistance to the israeli occupation. c-span: and how much of that did you see personally? >> guest: not a lot. c-span: was your brother in the service during any of the intifada? >> guest: no, he joined the army in 1992. c-span: you went through the iraqi war, scud missiles. >> guest: the gulf war. c-span: where were you? >> guest: at home. c-span: what did you do during that time? >> guest: i sat in the shelter. c-span: where was the shelter? >> guest: at home. c-span: how would it work? did you have gas masks and all that? where was your grandfather during all this time? >> guest: my grandfather never used his and gas mask because he said the iraqi's would never use chemical weapons against us. c-span: did that surprise you that he wouldn't put on a gas mask? >> guest: no, this was an.

it didn't surprise me. c-span: so what did you do as a family? >> guest: it was fun as a family actually. because none of the people who i know went to the frontlines. israel had nothing to do with this war. we just were a bump. so what happened was we had a very nice, long family evening and we had a lot of popcorn and backgammon and monopoly. c-span: did you put the gas masks on? did you put the gas masks on? >> guest: during the alarms, he yeah. c-span: did you ever see anything to do with the scud missile? >> guest: my parents found a piece of scud missile in the backyard of the house but they never told my father or brother until i was two months afterwards. c-span: you say in your book that you have lived a privileged life. what does that mean? >> guest: i lived in a very comfortable environment.

i was quite spoiled. i never had to do anything. c-span: what do you mean by do anything? never had to work? >> guest: work or prove myself. my family, my parents, my grandparents, my brother -- everybody was nice to me. everybody loved me. i didn't have any problems, those kinds of robbins, thank god. although times word easy, always had time for me and i always felt loved and always appreciated and educated, and this is a privileged environment, i guess. c-span: do you get any feeling about where you would like to end up? will you live your life in israel? >> guest: yes. c-span: what do you think you'll be doing in 10 years? >> guest: i don't know.

i really don't know. c-span: can you knock it down to two or three possibilities? >> guest: no. c-span: not at all? after writing this book would you like to do some more writing? >> guest: not so soon. it's difficult, it's difficult and i'm too young to write another one. i still have a few years to decide if i want to do it or not. i enjoy writing the book. it was good for me i think. c-span: did you write it all yourself? >> guest: yeah. c-span: how much help that you have an editing process? did you feel that people let you say exactly what you wanted to say? >> guest: i was very difficult on this part because i never wanted anyone to change what i wanted to say. c-span: did you have a fight with the editors? what would they want to change? >> guest: they wanted to add some details which i thought were too romantic, or stuff like this, which i didn't like.

because i want the book to be authentic and not nostalgic, and i think i did it. c-span: how is it selling? jaczko i don't know. i still don't know. c-span: when you go back home or maybe by telephone you talk to your grandmother your grand -- mother what do you tell them so far about the experience of being on a book tour click is. >> guest: it sure is an experience and not at all 19-year-olds have had. but it's difficult. my mom is with me. c-span: what do you tell your grandmother? what is difficult about this experience? >> guest: interviews, the time and sometimes you have to repeat the same answers and sometimes you just want to freak out of your mind because you have just had it. but i'm behaving myself. c-span: are you saying you really control this environment? if you were back home would you be this -- >> guest: wild thing?

c-span: would you be this patient? >> guest: i can promise you. i can only invite you to israel and you check for yourself. c-span: you said back in 1994 you participated in a live television program with young people. what was that? >> guest: about the peace signing, the assignment of peace with the jordanians. c-span: who put it on? >> guest: who was the host? c-span: yeah. who's idea was said and what was the purpose of the program? >> guest: i don't know, it was probably rating. the host was a well-known figure in israel. c-span: speaking of host there is another host that you mention here. who is he? >> guest: he is cool. c-span: what does that mean? >> guest: jonathan is very

funny. he is a singer and he is an actor. he is a tv host. c-span: how do you know him? i mean, you met him somewhere and you saw him later at a rally? >> guest: that's right. the family doctor and his new wife who is a producer. they were married and they had a wedding reception and he was there. jonathan and i always admired him. c-span: your brother? >> guest: yeah. jonathan is very funny. you will never make a politician because every time you're moving around. i'm trying to deliver some warm ways, and you don't get them. so you'll never make a politician. so he said, this is the adventures of showbiz people, and you the politicians because

we can ignore you. and from there it developed a very nice conversation and then we met him at the rally. the peace rally. he was one of the last people who met my grandfather. c-span: you appeared on television back in 1994 and in a discussion you had some people with you? what is an israeli arab? >> guest: it is an arab-israeli. c-span: you say in here that israeli arabs don't have the same responsibility that you do in the military. they don't have to serve in the military. >> guest: that's right. c-span: why is that? >> guest: because sometimes they have to fight with her brothers, let's say from syria, from lebanon, from at times egypt and jordan. c-span: can they vote? >> guest: yes.

c-span: at what age can you vote in israel? >> guest: 18. c-span: have you voted yet? >> guest: no, it just turned 19 so i can vote. c-span: the next election is your first time ever to vote. will you vote? >> guest: yes. c-span: some of the questions that were asked in this television program were, how would you define heroism? and what does peace mean to you? let's go back to the first question. how do you define heroism? >> guest: what i said there was that heroism is to take decision, which is a breakthrough, and to take responsibility upon it even if it's a failure. c-span: the second question is, what does peace mean to you? how did you answer that? >> guest: i said that it's to visit the neighbors, right. c-span: i remember my reply, it means not having to worry about

the men. >> yeah not having to worry about fighting the borders and maybe someday to take a bus and go to alkhabbaz. c-span: what what is televisionlike in israel? how much of the do you have? >> guest: a lot. c-span: there used to be just one channel. what is it like now? >> guest: its many channels. and we have the second channel, which is private. the first is national, and we have the third, which is cable and forth, which is movies and the sixth is kids. five sports. and we have cable from all over the world. c-span: what do you watch? >> guest: and tv. c-span: why? >> guest: because i just kind of had it with the talk shows. c-span: the talk shows. are there a lot of talk shows on israeli television?

do you get tired of it all? are you getting tired of talking in this interview yet? >> guest: no, not yet. i'm talkative. c-span: you like to talk? >> guest: stop me if i'm giving you a headache. c-span: no, you're not. going back to the devil is -- television, the reason i ask you is you wind in the army and said you wanted to work at the army radio station. it was an interesting point because all through the book you talk about being rabin's granddaughter and then you were worried about being treated special but you didn't get what you wanted when you got in the army. did that surprise you? >> guest: yeah, not because i was rabin's granddaughter. c-span: why did they want you? >> guest: i don't know. c-span: how do you apply for job like a job like that the military? >> guest: it's a special process that is so long and boring. it's not too interesting.

c-span: were you surprised you didn't get that? >> guest: i wasn't surprised. i was offended. c-span: offended? why? >> guest: because you get this image of a stupid person. i always believed that if you really want something so bad, you can get it and this is the first time that i wanted something so bad and i couldn't get it. c-span: so then what did you do? you had to have a job. >> guest: then i applied for the army's newspaper. right to what happened there? >> guest: i applied too late because i was rejected very late from the army's radio station. so their course for writing was packed. so they said, you have the possibility to go as a producer. so i had an interview and they accepted me. i became a producer in the army sent newspaper.

but now i was promoted and now i'm a reporter. let. c-span: when you go back, on what date will you be back full-time in the army? >> guest: may 9 and coming back so it means the 12. c-span: you will be back in the army then? full-time? what will your job be when you do that? >> guest: i will be reporting. it's a new job in a new position for me because i promoted just before i left. i didn't know what my job would look like because it's a new job. c-span: but you will have to write? >> guest: yeah. c-span: and you like to write? >> guest: yeah. c-span: another person you talk about in the book and by the way whose decision was it for the photos? >> guest: i gave selection and every publisher chose. c-span: so every book and how many different languages was this published in? >> guest: let's see, french, german, america, italy, holland and israel.

israel is not published yet. it will be published in. c-span: this is not been published in israel yet? >> guest: no, because i have to make changes in order to make it an israeli reader. you can only explain so much here that the israelis don't have to have the explanation, because it sounds like a snob when trying to explain all those things to israelis. c-span: this is the person i want to show you. king hussein. when was that picture taken? >> guest: when hussein visited tel aviv. i don't harbor the exact month. 1996. c-span:c-span: and one appear, r your grandfather? >> guest: after his assassination. he called the trauma center after my grandfather. c-span: and you report, it was something that's been reported other places, that they had a friendship or 20 years. king hussein and your grandfather talked privately for

20 years? >> guest: not like they used to call each other, you know every day. how's it going, are you coming tonight? nothing like that. they kept relations. it depends on the job my grandfather had but yeah. c-span: did you meet the king? >> guest: yeah. c-span: did you have a chance to talk with him? >> guest: yeah. c-span: what did you think of him? >> guest: i think he was very impressive. c-span: have you been to jordan? do you hope to go sometime? >> guest: yeah. c-span: under what circumstances would you go to jordan? >> guest: to visit. c-span: could you do that now if you wanted to? >> guest: know because i'm in the army. c-span: there's another picture of you. where was that taken? >> guest: at home. c-span: what year? >> guest: now. c-span: and that is your army uniform? >> guest: that's right. c-span: what do you think of the army so far? >> guest: it's