i mean, they have no sympathy or wish to bring president bush back. >> host: what did you find out about the tea party and money? >> guest: i don't know much about tea party and money as most groups don't get any money. they are grassroots organizations. a bunch of national tea party groups you can google and see right-click and i have no idea where they get money from. frankly that is not the tea party. those are people raising money for their own groups. it's a bunch of grassroots organizations in neighborhood and they don't get money. gop organizations that would like to bring them into a cross? >> guest: .i. know they get any super pack money. big national organizations have super packs are participating super packs. but they're just calling themselves tea party groups. they are not the tea party. the tea party as ordinary people living in your neighborhood. >> host: neck is regina and

berkeley, california. >> caller: hi, how are you? i am enjoying your show. i wanted to -- ms. foley, some of the process that i've seen in my neighborhood appear to be angry, confrontational as well as angry. and i am wondering icy racist image as in their protests and i am wondering why that is. and a smile, i would like to know, i tried to understand their issues and what they're about and i think he gave an excellent explanation of that today. but why do they not -- do they associate with the 99%? and if so -- if not, why not?

99% versus the 1%? of the 99% would be all the rest of the public is opposed to the 1% of wealthy people? >> guest: i assume that she party does not consider itself to be aligned with the 1% of the wealthiest americans because they are not in the top 1% of wealthy americans. i'm not sure what matters. >> host: have a angry computational? >> guest: the fact the constitution is disregarded their very angry at the policies implemented by the obama administration. so yes, a lot of angst and anger there. as there is on the other side of the isle that occupy wall street, which is a guest week get the 99%, 1% information from. there's a lot of anger amongst americans right now. they are focusing different places. across theological section right now. >> host: next is afraid to come upgraded, pennsylvania.

>> caller: hi, yes, ma'am. doesn't it say that all men are created equal in the constitution? >> guest: declaration of independence actually. >> caller: anyway, nor does it say that the government is to make someone equal to everybody else. i mean, i am really tired of liberals and democrats, and deadbeats pushing their so-called civil rights were pushing on other people's so-called civil rights. we are supposed to pay for schools, illegal immigrants. they never go to the bylaws of immigration saying that their automatic citizen. they always run to the equal

rights and civil rights and staff. but if they go to the morals, they find out they really don't have the right of citizenship and staff. thank you. >> host: marcon at thank you. and his sentiment reflects the tea party issues. >> host: i have no idea what the heck he's talking about, but i would say i like civil rights. i think civil rights are great. everyone should be treated equally by the government and i think more importantly there's a government that wants to use taxing and spending power which is an enumerated power to enact programs like medicare and social security, then great. we can have that debate in the arena of politics and political branches. but there's a difference between that and using power regulate interstate commerce and enforce people to buy commerce. there's serious constitutional differences between some of the things that have tried to be done by the obama administration

today versus things in the past. a lot of people just been too brought of a brush with the tea party. they don't understand the tea parties concerns earlier cons to too small. they are subtle, but important people don't understand the constitution anymore. much less what they mean. how are we ever going to have a serious and important substantive discourse about what is right in what is wrong with this country unless we know these things? >> guest: unanimous view of the politicians back when the tea party you came in at 2010. marco rubio been one of those. senator rubio is being -- names is a possible vice president pick from that romney. they see is that selection, what does that suggest? you talk about principles that are so important. how do you complement that romney's presidency and the comedic spectrogram? >> guest: marco rubio is the

one the political scene. a lot of people don't know much about him. the tea party generally like sinister republicans generally. my senator from the state of florida has a nice story to tell. he came against all odds inserted rows up in the ranks of this country. disagree or her radio alger story. it's too early to tell whether he's going to add anything to romney candidacy or not. much less whether romney is going to actually pick him. the important thing is, is romney a tea party candidate? the surprising thing is if he's kind of a boring speaker, but if you cannot taste it through speeches after the primaries and highlight the words he uses most often, uses words like founding fathers and constitution. so he's walking the walk and talking the talk in the tea party and that's beginning to resonate. his only problem is on many levels they don't really believe him. he is saying that they don't believe him. post another color named mark,

this one from boston. >> caller: good evening, how are you. professor foley, since you're a constitution professor yourself, i've heard arius reports that the president's history and that capacity and also that he may have been an editor of harvard law review. what can you tell us about that possibility? >> guest: i do know a lot about a day. he was a senior tester chicago law school. it's not tenure-track it would normally not be called a constitutional law professor. he is sort of morphing adjunct fester, someone who does a part-time while community organizer. whenever a character characterize president upon as a law scholar by any stretch of imagination. he went to moscow that many people go to law school and don't know much about the constitution either. you only take one course in moscow called constitutional law, a one semester course. if you don't study much after

that, frankly don't know much why do people graduate from undergraduate. postcode this question or an e-mail who writes i hear a lot about the tea party in the news about the constitution related to fiscal mandates, bailouts, limited government can't do little or nothing about increasing encroachment of government on rights to privacy and free expression. am i correct in my inspection? >> guest: major encroachment to privacy right now, but that is not part of the contract from america. it may be phase two is the politically mature, and right now they believe they have bigger fish to fry and not privacy. >> host: nexus of rain and video, missouri. lorraine, are you dare? >> guest: yes, i'm there. you have the last question. >> caller: just a comment. talking about the constitution and the tea party.

the all mighty wind that talks about the constitution follows the constitution is ron paul in the tea party people are not behind ron paul. so for me, it is ron paul or no one. that is my comment. >> host: thanks so much. >> guest: ron paul and tea party. and the polling data early on he was getting a third of tea party support. that's dropped off over time. one of the reasons is one of the principles is unapologetic sovereignty. mr. paul has sort of interesting views u.s. sovereignty. they don't align very well believe it or not what the tea party and makes them different from his son, randy paul on that. so it's not going to be the darling of the tea party. we should expect anyone. mr. paul al-aqsa tea party support, but over time he's not going to be the candidate. they are looking for someone else who might be electable. >> host: so as far as you can

tell, the tea parties hereto say? >> guest: they will show up in november and will be part of our political scene well beyond 2012. >> host: the book we talk about, elizabeth foley's book is "the tea party: three principles" available wherever you buy your books. thank you so much for wrapping up our coverage of the los angeles times festival of books. and for being with us this weekend. great to be in los angeles for two days every year. if you miss >> is there a nonfiction author or book you would like to see featured on booktv? send us an e-mail at booktv@c-span.org. or tweet us at twitter.com/booktv. here's a look at some of the upcoming book fairs and festivals happening this month.

>> we'd like to hear from. tweet us your feedback, twitter.com/booktv. >> coming up next on booktv, nikki haley, recounts her life and political cricket she was elected south carolina's first female governor in 2010. governor haley is the daughter of sikh parents who immigrated to the u.s. and settled in bamberg, south carolina, describes her childhood and the prejudice her family faced. this is about 45 minutes. >> thank you, arthur, and it's a privilege to be here. i noted that at about this time yesterday you were on the view being questioned by joy behar. hopefully we can elevate things a bit, a low bar spent quite the experience, i will tell you that. >> it's a privilege to be here for because it's a wonderful book.

arthur touched on your personal story. i brought with me to my daughters today because i think it's so important for all of us to be a blue spend with strong confident leaders, and because i think that your experience puts the lie in many ways to the notion that there is a republican war on women somehow. but i want to start with a story to tell in the book about your runoff and the general election when you're running for governor. you talk about what your opponents opponents, attorney general mcmaster, and the extent to which when your battle is over with him in the early stages of primary, you call them up and told him you admired this fight, a phrase i love, but whatever like is how he began introducing you at your campaign events. you describe in the book. you say henry would introduce me as if i were headlining lollapalooza. as the poet tom petty says, he

would say, with his voice rising to a dramatic pitch, you can stand her up at the gates of hell, and she won't back down. and i thought you could start today by talking a little bit about where your spirit to fight comes from, and her spirit to stand up and do what is right. >> everything good about me i got from my parents. everything negative about me just came from other places, but i will tell you, i started every speech in a continued to say i'm the proud daughter of indian parents. it reminded us everyday how blessed we were to live in this country. we came, or i was born in a small southern town, 2500 people. my parents came to, my father was a turban, my mother a sorry. that small southern town did know what to make of us and we did know wha what you make of t. but what i would take is this is the start of a lot of challenges, challenges of being a minority family and a small

southern town the challenges of being different and knowing your different but knowing your parents tell you to be proud of what you're given. challenges in the corporate world. challenges in the state house race. challenges in the governor's race and challenges as we go forward. but what i always knew was my parents always wanted us to understand that what makes you different make you special. and also the fact that the small southern town, while we went to those challenges, is part of the same state that elected us, a 30 year-old indian american female for governor. what does that say about south carolina? what does that say about this country? how far have become? that's the story behind this is we all go to challenges. it's not the challenges that define you. it's how you handle those challenges. now i realize all of those challenges were blessings to everyone of them was to blessing in disguise because now i know i am, i have the strength, i know i don't back down because every time you go to a challenger amazed at what you can overcome.

>> in addition to this lessons from your parents, and one of the things you talk about is your parents telling them you don't complain about problems, you solve them. you have another great story, which has the mother of a 12 year-old i particularly love, your mom start a small business in the living room of your home, and the accountant was leaving, and the store utilities you happen to be strolling out of your kitchen, 12 year-old nikki haley, and her mother grabbed you and said to the accountant, train her how to do this. so i don't think many people no, i did not until a richer book at the age of 12 and 13 you would be accounted for your moms business. >> the business was grown out of the house and it was actually now into what was about 3500 square-foot store. they were doing very well at the time and the bookkeeper was moving on somewhere else and she said raj, i've got to train someone, i'm going to be leaving in two weeks, and i happened to walk after the break room and my mom grabbed my arm and said i

want you to trainer. and she said i can train her, she's 13. and she said if you train or she will do it. and so i was doing payroll. i was doing taxpayer i was doing to general ledger. i was paying bills, making deposits. i did know until i get to college that wasn't normal. but i tell people that was my parents way of saying, now i look back and realize they did want me to no limitations that come they didn't want me to know the limitations of gin and they didn't want me to know the limitations of being in the end. they always said what every to be great at it and make sure people remember you for it. >> but it was at that point that i shaped the value of a dollar, and what it means for the private sector and how it's so hard to make a dollar and it's so easy for government to take it. so the philosophies and the police that i have are things i lived, not because this label told me what to believe. it's because i truly lived it and understood what the hardships of small businesses were.

>> if you jump ahead a little bit, your very first political race, i think if you go into just about any nursery school in america today, and probably around the world, you will see that the little girl are running circles around little boys. and i said that as a proud mama, both girls and boys, but the girls are running the place. and so i have often wondered what happened, why is it that women are not yet anyway running the world. and i think part of it is -- if you look at the story of your 2004 race, the fact that you couldn't find a consultant to take your money, you had everybody telling you don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. what was it that give you the confidence to say i know this is the right thing to do? was the ignorance? did you just not to know speak with absolutely. i think is a couple of things. i think that was the fact that i

saw as a businessperson i wonder why we didn't have more business people in the state house. then i had a mom who said quit complaining about and do something about it. and so i said i will run for the status. i did know you were supposed to run against a 30 year incumbent and primary but i do what you. but once i got in the only option was to win. what was surprising was we went to a series of consultants, and i remember telling a friend i have this money and no one will take my money. one consultant said, you're too young, you've got small children, you just need to look at school boards, you don't need to run for status. another consultant said nikki, your dad goes to the temple, there's less than 1% indians, you can't win this district. and so it was a lot of can't. and i'll tell you, one of the interesting things was what really jumped me over and say i'm going to do this, actually

hillary clinton was a guest speaker and she was there giving a speech to a few hundred people, and she said everybody's going to tell you why you shouldn't do it. and that's all the reasons why you should. and what i was taken but who says i can do something, it only motivates me more to want to do it. that i didn't see young moms running for office. i didn't see a lot of women running for office. i didn't see businesspeople running for office. and so that really was more the reason why i said we need more people. the reason i wrote the book was after i won the governor race, so may people came up to me and said, after seeing what you went to i would never run for office. i was devastated. that was the total opposite of what i want them to take from a race. what i wanted them to see was yes, we went to the challenges, but look at know what i'm able to do in south carolina. i'm able to move the ball. so i don't think that there's any reason why women come we don't see a lot of women outside the fact that women just don't

run. they just don't run, and we need more women in office. we need more real people in office. more businesspeople. i was in student government. we don't need is people who thought all their life but being a politician. we need people to live their life and know the problems of government. >> as soon as you cut in the state legislature then, perhaps not immediately, but as you should start insisting on transparency and other legislators were voting, you really basically ran into a firestorm. >> it was one of those what first got into office, no one knew what to make of me. i had defeated her friend, a 30 year income, so nobody wanted to share an office within. nobody want to sit at a desk with the. there happened to be another person who were defeated majority leader so we would've to outsiders and we quickly became estimates in office mates, and it worked out well. but when i got there i saw a lot of things that i thought were wrong. and one was in south carolina

legislators didn't have to show their votes on the record. all their voting was by voice vote. i watched this bill get read across the desk, and i tell this in the book, and they said they were increasing their pensions for themselves, all in favor say aye go. all opposed nay. the ayes have it. and it was. and i went to my speaker, the republican leadership and i said we are republicans, what did we just do? i don't understand. at the next day i went and i said i am filing a bill this as anything important to be debate on the floor of the house or the scent is important enough for legislators to know how they vote. my leadership said put the bill away come we don't need to have it, we will decide what the public needs to see and what they don't. i remember, i got my husband and the rim, michael, stand up and wave. i remember going to michael that night and saying, if i can't so much as even get legislators to vote on the record, i don't need

to be here. and i made a decision, knowing that there could be harmed, to fight anyway. and i took on the fight. i went across the state and i said did you know of all bills passed the house, only 8% were on the record? did you know of all bills passed in the senate only 1% was on the record? then i said if you didn't have the legislators in the house voted, 92 present time, if you didn't how your senators voted 99% of the time, how did you know who to vote for in the polls? and south carolina was astonished. went through that, but what was interesting was that was my fourth year in office, in my first year in office i was chairman of the freshman class. my second year i was majority whip. my third year i was put on a powerful business committee, and i for the of the subcommittee chair. the year that i wouldn't put the bill away, the year that i thought to sit legislators need to show their votes on the record. they stripped me of everything.

they took away every ounce of power i had. and why the leadership was showing the club, this is what we do to some who steps out of line, i was trying to show legislators this is what happens when we step out of line. so i ran for governor. [laughter] and i am proud to say that within the first couple of months, i signed the bill that not every legislator shows their vote on the record in the state of south carolina, and they show their vote in every section of the budget. so we see their spending habits as well. [applause] >> it was in that governor's race that you face some of the most hateful and shameful attacks. and i think just to give a plug, at the end of this book and anyone who is think about running for office or is running for office ought to, at a minimum, they should read the whole book, but at a minimum they should read the paragraph that begins at the bottom of page 151 and goes over to page 152. but governor haley says, talks

about those attacks and says that all of her old instincts to fight through the adversity, to prove myself to skeptics and critics started to come alive. while some are using as a chance to destroy me and my family, i would use it to strengthen myself and to protect my family. and i think that it is one of those points that may seem obvious, but so much of politics today can be so nasty. and a decision not just to say i'm going to ignore it, but to take the attack and turn it around and use it to make you stronger is brilliant. so i'd like you to toggle bit about that, how you decided you were just going to fight through this and not let them basically take you down. >> the interesting thing was i was making for a lot of the race. i didn't have any name id. i didn't have any money. but what we did have is we had a conservative message. i had a lot of passion and we had a grassroots movement. and so as i was going across, none of the other candidates

were acknowledging me, and then they started to see movement. and the second that rats mission said we were number one in the polls, within about three or four days, i look at michael and we celebrated for all of five minutes and then is that this is going to hurt. and i knew something had to happen. they couldn't let it stand to for five days it was everything under the sun that came out. and what they don't understand is that only motivate me to fight more because it was everything that is wrong with politics. politics is the art of distraction and that's what they tried to do. i was not going to be distracted i told it was off supplies, it was false and also told and this is exactly what we need to look at someone new for governor. and it worked. >> i wonder how many of those consultants who wouldn't take your money try to knock on your door? >> they were my best friends now. [laughter] >> sitting here where we are

today in washington, d.c., the idea of the damage that washington can do around the country, and the damage that the federal comic into, and particularly this administration, can sometimes be theoretical. but as governor of south carolina you experienced it firsthand to arthur mentioned the battle with the national labor relations board, and it is a stunning story, and a store that has a good ending, but i think would be very helpful if you talk a little bit about that. >> coming into the governorship i knew we were going to do with budget issues. i knew i had to do with an unplumbed issue. i knew we had to reform government. what i never knew is that the hardest part about my job would be the federal government. we passed legal immigration reform and the justice department stopped us. if you have to show a picture id on a plane you should actually picture id to vote. we passed a voter id to the

department of justice stopped us. now we're getting ready and next couple of weeks capacity buses if you going to get unemployment benefits you have to pass a drug test. i'm expecting a fight there, but what i never thought we would see was the most un-american thing, which is this great american company, boeing, gave south carolina a shot in the arm and said we'll put a plan in south carolina, created 1000 new jobs in south carolina. at the same time expanded their employment in washington state by 2000. not one person was hurt. yet president obama and the national labor relations board went and stood bowing and told him they couldn't do. an american company. and then i washed president obama give this speech in front of the joint session in congress and say i want to see things made in america. and i remember saying, i've got some planes and trying to have you make in charleston, south carolina, and you are stopping us. now, god bless the fact that we have an election year. we have a president that is a

little nervous, and that suit got brought down. but what was once 1000 employees is now 6000 employees at boeing, and those big mac daddy plan to getting ready to roll out on the runway this spring. that's what america is about, and move out of the way and let the private sector work. >> when you move ahead now to 2011, and your decision early on to endorse the governor romney, it's clear in the book that governor romney had endorsed you early, someone for whom you have a lot of respect but it was ditching that was controversial. and particularly among the tea party, nix it supports others, not all of them were ready to support them. talk about how you made the decision and how you felt about the criticism that came from your supporters. >> a lot of it was that i knew i needed a partner in the white house. what i need is right now i didn't have the. i knew i couldn't do the will of the people and was not having us like i did think of what i

wanted. michael and i sat down and were trying to get how we were going to decide who this person was because we had so many candidates. and i do a report card on my legislators, so every year i let the public know how the legislators voted. if you get that report card, michael said why don't you do it for guard and the candidates and decide from the? when he was i did not want anyone that had anything to do with the chaos that is washington, we have seen what that has gotten us. it is not working. so i want is someone outside of washington. the second thing is i know someone who'd been on the other side of government when he came to business. i want somebody that knew what it was like to create jobs, someone who knew what it's like to start a business but also knows how hard it is when a business fails. been unwanted results. so i looked at governor romney and i saw he took the failed olympics animated a source of pride for our country. he was a government that went to democratic state, liberal state, and was an executive, cut taxes 19 times, balanced his budget

within 85% legislative and i thought what if we had that in washington? and then on top of that, was the fact i knew him, i knew the family, i knew where they were. i knew how he wasn't just a candidate but wanted to win, this is some of what fought the last four years about how he would handle the situation if he were present to everything let me know that he was the right person. so going in i felt like i needed to do what was right to allow me say that in an us are comfortable with that. the tea party was a great support to the. i am a huge fan of the tea party because they're not a part at all. they are republicans, democrats and independents who said they had enough. but what they wanted someone to understand the value of the dollar. they want someone to understand that government works with people and not the other way around the a1 government to understand that there protections and freedoms and our liberties. those all went into my

decision-making because the first thing i did was i sat down with governor romney and said i've got tough questions as you. i said i don't want mandatory health care in the state of south carolina. and i said we can't afford it. we don't want to. and he said first day i will repeal it. he said what we did in massachusetts was from massachusetts. i would never do a federal national mandate. i said i need to know if i pass illegal immigration reform or voter id or any bill in south carolina of the federal government is not going to stop the will of the people of south carolina. and he said i was a governor of a state. he said you have to be able to governor state without the federal government getting in the way. he said i will always support those things. that really was what got me there, and so he was tea party values that asked them, and i get responses back. i can say that while some members of the tea party may be disappointed, you can't please everybody all the time, but there is no one or two people that speak for the tea party. that's what makes them great. they are not a label.

they don't vote in a block to get independent thinking and they did that, and you see even in the state of south carolina the exit polls, two-thirds of the people were still with me after that. so i'm very confident that one, i strongly believe governor romney will be the nominee, but i believe i really did the right thing. >> and how you account for the fact that he was able to carry south carolina even after the endorsement. >> succulent has very strong independently minded people. and i never, i get asked all the time did i take that personally? no. because that's why love about the people of south carolina. they will do what they want to do. i respect them to do that. and i also appreciate the fact that they respected i decided who i wanted to endorse lies very comfortable. >> i know you said publicly, definitely it sounds like me in the last few days, that you are not interested in being on the ticket if the governor asks you. but what about a cabinet post? if you sit there and you think

gosh, nikki haley would be a great secretary of commerce, do you ever think to yourself look, i am making a difference in south carolina but perhaps in a romney can be able to make a difference on a much larger scale speak with my decision, and when you read all of the challenges we went through to become governor, the people of south carolina took a chance on me. it's important for me that people trust their government. i made a commitment to them. i have a job to finish, and i want to make them proud. and so whether it's the vice president or cabinet position, you know, i need to finish the job that was given to me. and i love the state of south carolina and i love being governor of south carolina, and i will fight for the nominee in every way to show how it has hurt succulent and what we've been through but know i'm going to stay in the state, continue doing what i promise i will do. >> i will ask you one last question before we open it up to take audience questions, and

that's about women. you have a chapter in your book dedicated to the strong conservative woman, governor patton, who came and helped in your rates. we are in the midst of a real attempt in my view i the mainstream media by the other party to paint republicans as if we are at war with them. i would like you to talk about your perception of that and your perception of the role of women going forward for the country, not just for the party. >> i am a huge fan of women. i think we are great. i think, but the issue really is that not enough women are running, and we need more women in office. we have great experiences. we are wise, we are bonds, we are daughters, where sisters. we've been through a lot. i would love to see more women in office but i think women tend to second-guess themselves. they think about their families first and think but what if this happens and what if that happens? what i was a to women is we need you. we will be a better country when we have more in office. we will be better for that.

governor palin is a perfect example of, she came to the state and i tell the story in the book where we're sitting and we're talking and yes we are comparing shoes and sit and talk about all those things but we talk about them and we talked about leadership. and she said when you start to win and they come after you. and she said after you become governor it's never going to start. and she was so right. i just are a couple days ago and i told her, i said you were so right, and she said it never stops. and so for us what we have to do is stay on message, don't get distracted, are they going to try to do a? absolutely, but are we not tough? we are. we are tough and we are confident and we are smart, and we will continue to prove that there's no about of attacks that will stop us. we will keep on fighting and keep on winning. and i think that's the basic -- biggest message of the day is we are not going to lie. we will prove to result.

>> and appointed jamaican the you make in the book so well is that we are about opportunities. and issues that women care about jobs and the economy and making sure that kids can go to school, that the country is safe, those are all areas that will be better off. >> is interesting, the mainstream media wants to label women as being one issue voters, and we are not. we care about jobs and economy and health care, education and all of those things. we are very thoughtful and the way we think about it. and so yes, that's exactly right. i think that, i think the media is actually a little frightened of him women and i will take him i would heals and it's not for a fashion statement. it's because it's ammunition. [laughter] >> and on that note, ammunition is was a good place to end to go to questions from the audience to the governor will be happy to take questions about the book, or anything else. right here.

>> i am with cns news. what would you say to republicans who feel that mitt romney is not conservative enough? this questions about his conservative credentials, especially with social conservativism. >> well, i can tell you from a personal affront, those were some questions i asked them as well. i asked him about family, and he believes that marriage should be between a man and woman. i'm strongly pro-life and not because of the party tells me to be but because michael was adopted and with difficulty having both of our children's we appreciate the blessings of that. and i asked him on that, and if you look at his, and i questioned him on the, and if you look at his record as governor he always voted on the side of life. he always took action on the side of life. there's not one time we didn't. and so what i will tell you, i think as we're going to this

process people are pretty looking at what they want, and they're doing the right thing. it's the great part of our democracy. but what we all agree on regardless of who the republican candidate is that they may be supporting, we all know what we don't want, and that's a we've had for the past three years. i think everybody will come back to that in the end. >> my question is as indian-american, how you could help to bring that part of the world closer to america? and last question is obama is wasting so much money. he took deficit from nine to $15 trillion. we have spent $600 billion in afghanistan since september 11. we have given 1700 lives. it cost us $40 going to pakistan, is costing us $400 thruway of northern route.

bush, he didn't have 200, but he was able to have very good rapport with karzai, with pakistani generals, but this guy is so aloof, highly intelligent but he cannot relate with the world leaders. he is messing up u.s. foreign policies. if you are offered job, would you accept that? >> well first i will start with the first part of your question, which is, i educate people on the greatness of the indian community. i'm incredibly proud, because indians are great at medicine and business and education and teaching and all that. the one thing that they have lacked on it being involved in government and politics. and as the next generation, you will see that we are starting to realize that we have to have that will come we have to have that voice. whether it is bobby jindal or whether it is me, some are run a

country that are chosen to get involved in office, that's a good thing. the other thing i love for people to know about the indian community is it is one of the minorities that is the highest educated in the country. is one of the minorities that has the highest per capita of any minority in the country. it is one of the minorities that is the least depend on government assistance. and the one i love, one of the minorities that is the most philanthropic of any minority in the country. and so those are all things i'm incredibly proud of, and what we are taught growing up is the best way to appreciate god's blessing is to give back. and you see that his service and you see that the charity. now, getting into what i accept the vision, that still holds true that no, at this point on the can do but we a great governor in south carolina. i think that what we're seeing with president obama is that he really goes back to the new deal concept that government can fix all things. and we have seen our debt, we've seen more debt growth with

president obama in three years that we saw with bush in eight. and that is what you were saying that we are trying to change. we've got to get out of this debt. i care about that for my children and my grandchildren. we've got to stop the spin but if you're going to ask every other governor in the country to balance their budget, washington has to balance their budget. that is at the heart of everything we're talking about. a need to prioritize where they need to spend. on foreign relations i would to the hot mic situation says it all. >> governor haley, i'm from the commodities markets gaza. you talked about immigration, and i think the republican party's commitment to enforcing the rule of law when it comes to illegal immigration is valuable and commendable but i think the other part of the equation sometimes gets left out a little bit, so could you talk about how

the republican party needs to change both its perception among the public, among the voters come as close substantive policies on what we can do for legal immigration in this country, thank you. >> we pass illegal immigration reform in south carolina, and, unfortunately, president obama is not leading a force that. but what i would take us as the daughter of immigrant parents that came here legally, they put in the time, they pay the money, they came the right way, they are offended by those that don't come the right way. the second side is we are a country of law. a day we stop becoming a country of law is we will lose everything that makes us great. so what do i think what's i think we need to enforce our illegal immigration laws, but we also need to look at expanding our workforce visa situation. because immigrants are what makes this country great. we need the expertise to we need to research.

we need the technologies that they're able to bring, but we need to do all that legally. so there's two sides to it, and i think the republicans probably could go talk about the fact that more yes, we need more immigrants come we want them legally. yes, we do think they are valuable but they need to be here legally but i think they probably need to stress that as much as they stress they don't want illegal immigration. >> hi, governor. i just had a quick question about, i me, having read some chapters of the book i was wondering if he felt any sort of shared experience with president obama given that he also came from but perhaps not the most ideal circumstances, to go on and be elected to office, being an african-american come and going up in somewhat difficult circumstance, if he felt a shared experience of any sort? or would you say that, you know,

-- >> of course i. i think that what i hope that my story tells, what i hope everybody feels is the pride of living in this country. the one thing my parents said over and over again is only in this country can you be anything you want to be, and no one is going to get in your what the president obama is proof of that. i improve of the. look at any entrepreneur that started from strong challenges and how they have become successful. we have examples across the country in business, and education, and sports, and politics. that is a highlight of this country. that is what we need to grasp onto but i want people to be proud of where we live. i am proud of where we live. my parents are proud of where we live. party or nobody, nobody can take that away from us.

>> a question for you governor. if the affordable health care act survives in the supreme court, what impact will that have on your states budget, vis-à-vis the increased medicaid spending that the law requires? >> our state alone every other states will be devastated. because what you see in south carolina alone our annual budget is $5 million. the affordable health care act will cost south carolina 5 billion over 10 years. we can't afford. we will go bankrupt. the part about health care that we need to understand is i strongly believe the individual mandates unconstitutional. the second side of it is i strongly believe that state of the best to make these decisions. what i would like to see is for washington to be able to give us block grants. let us decide the best way to spend our money. south carolina is not like california.

it's not like texas. it's not like michigan. all of the state, we have different issues. south carolina, our issues are poverty and education. and another state he might be something else, but i know that if we're given that money we would spend less money, we would be more effective on how we have treated our patients. if the affordable care act goes into place you'll see a lot of private sector companies just pay the penalty and throw it to govern. we will see less quality in health care and higher costs if the goal of every state right now should be how do we get the most help for the least amount of money. what i'm asking is d.c., don't tell me how to do. what we're trying to do in south carolina is we're trying to make sure there's transparency from the patient to the doctor, the doctor to the insurance company. because if we were to go and treat health care like we treated getting our oil changed at the car maintenance shop, what would happen? you go in, you tell them what you want, they show you the list

of things you are getting rid to pay for, you signed it and then you do it. if people ask you got involved in her health care decision, if they were able to say at the dentist, i don't want a florid, i don't need to pay, or to want to pay the $10 on the tunnel, look how much we would sit and look how much more involved we would be. we wouldn't want certain test. we would need certain medications but we do a lot of things that doctors chose to do, and 50% of that we wouldn't do if we really knew the cost associated with it. so my hope is that we learned a great lesson from this. i think the lesson is yes, we need to address health care. every state needs to do but every state needs to do it individually with their own programs and own plans, not to the mandatory. >> i'm with the "washington examiner," and i hope this question doesn't come off shallow, but you mentioned

ideals and kind of women in government face a lot of critique for what they wear and have a stab at it, whether it is hillary clinton growing her hair long or how much sarah palin's close calls. and i'm curious if you think much about how your traffic and how you're presenting yourself, and if you've gotten any blowback for the? >> i will tell you that jenny, the thing that surprises me is how much people won't let you forget about what you look like. this announcing -- continental tire and that's their largest investment in north america and a small town called sumter. we went there for the announcement, it was either continental tire, which is a great one, or another and we bought them from china. egoi, great economic developers announce lots of jobs, and one of the stories that they talked about was we got all these jobs, and dgc the governor's shoes? i was shocked at the number of

people to e-mail me and ask why don't you wear it means? you should wear the rings. you don't look finish. because i'm allergic to metal. i can't do that. but it is, but i will tell you, again, it goes to there are not enough women in office. you have got hillary clinton with the the the talked about her hair, her close. sarah palin went to the. they talked about her glasses. they talked about her seat. i go to that. but you just have to laugh it off. what we have to do is work harder, and what we have to do is make sure that we focus on results. it's not what they say, it's what we do. it's about the job, it's about the reforms that i do. i can make jokes about these. i have a completely mail sent to do i want to use these for taking quick sometimes i do. but it's all in fun. we can't take it to search the. we just have to take it in stride. >> in the back over there. >> i'm with politico.

you have ruled himself out of the vice presidential ticket at the fumble last night you called represented all of us, a good option. i'm just one if you could elaborate more on why you would recommend him? is he a top pick in the chautauqua other people speaks first of all, i'm not recommend anybody. i don't think i'm qualified to recommend anybody. what i was saying was the people that have been mentioned, and all those people that i mentioned had been mentioned as a vice presidential nominee. i think there'll be a slew of people. and i mentioned that alan west bank could. chris christie same had. marco rubio's name has. we've had tons, kelly ayotte name has. the vice president you can do, i'm not worried about that at all. we have got great people. are unchained i also don't know until he needs to recommend who they should be. i think mitt romney will have a tough time. i think that whatever it is that will excite people and think it will be a good strong partner

for the ticket. >> we have time for one more question. >> you institute a policy of requiring all state employees to -- [inaudible] >> so, one of the things that i do talk about in the book as well, is coming into office, what i realized was how negative people were. i think that's been the hardest part is i am a positive person by nature and they were very negative. and so i kept saying how can we make the state proud? we build planes can we build cars can we build tires. charles of which is named the number one vacation spot in the country and i wanted people to discover take all that in. so one day i was thinking in my office and i went and went to the secretary up front and i

said i want you to try something i said next to me answer the phone, say it's a great day in south carolina, how may i help you? and she did, and the person's answer was it is a great day in south carolina. and i said that day, we're going to do it. so what i required was all my cabinet agencies to start answering the phones. there were two sides to the, and the media want to pick up on one side, but there were two sites. one less i wanted employees to feel proud of where they were. i wanted everybody to be proud of the fact that we are in a great state that is in good standing right now, do we have our challenges? yes, but every day is getting better than the day before. second part was more important. how may i help you? government is in the customer service business. i wanted everybody in state government that answers the phone to understand they work for the person on the other side of the line, that the job was to make sure they solved their problem, they sent them to what they needed to go and they made sure that they were taken care by the time they got off the phone. so there were two sides to that.

i will tell you that while the immediate and a couple of legislators thought that it was terrible, everybody in my cabinet has appreciated it. now i don't go anywhere in south carolina are outside what they don't say it's a great day in south carolina. department of juvenile justice, i will give you that example because you talked about corrections, that's very true, department of juvenile justice, i corrections agency for our juveniles, the director started implementing it, and the first day after it was intimated she drove up to the guard and officer that was opening the gates said, good morning, it's a great day in south carolina. and she loved it. so now all the guard gates as you're going and they say it's a great day in south carolina. they called, the media call the substance abuse director and said you've got people with substance abuse, what do you think about the? he said i think the best thing that had because i want people to know it's going to be okay. we are going to be all right.

and so that is the thing. now, are the victims of assistance that we wait x. of course it is. those type things. but in most captains they welcomed it. they appreciated it. and it's given everybody this new happy life to themselves. and now we celebrate our state. we brag about our state. i will tell you it's been a great thing for south carolina. >> i want to take the prerogative of sitting appear to ask the last question, and it's just to get your assessment on 2012. we are very close now to being in the general election period, and we've seen over the last couple of days really the attacks president obama is likely today. is pretty stunning comments frankly about the supreme court role from the rose garden, comments that you know he can't think are true given that he is a constitutional law scholar. and also though he is going after both governor romney and chairman ryan in his remarks. talk about how we as republicans

can effectively counter what we now know is going to be he obama message. >> very important when you to november for all of us to remember. we need to focus on one thing. and that is president obama's record. he is going to continue to distract. that's his job. we need to continue to stay focused. that's our job. look at the economy. look at the debt. look at the loss of the credit rating to look at the gazprom. look at the fact that we have not balanced a budget. stay on message. this is a man who came into office as a candidate talking about hope and change. nothing that he is trying to do has worked so now he will scare the american public into thinking they better reelect him or it's going to get worse. and to have him be such a bully and schooled republicans and say, i can't believe you're trying to cut and reform these entitlements and try to really

prioritize spending, that's exactly what we want. he's going back to the new deal looking for government to grow and save everybody from themselves. i'm telling you that the rest of the american public is saying that's not what we want anymore. government messes up more than it fixes and we realize that now. so i think there's a tremendous opportunity after seeing him fall apart a little bit by pulling the supreme court that he has reached a new level of trying to get where he is going to go because he knows he can't go on his record. so he is desperately trying to make sure that he go somewhere else. what he's looking like is a bully. what is looking like is he is panicking over a record he can't defend it and what is looking like is he has been able to show leadership, and he knows it. >> well, i hope that if you won't be on the ticket you will at least be at all across the country campaigning very vocally as we head towards november. >> that is a given. i want to again recommend to everyone this terrific book and wonderful story.

>> this is my honor, thank you so much. i appreciate it. [applause] >> for more information, visit the author's website, nikkihaley.com. >> here's a look at some new books that are being released this week.

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