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>> in the history of the stated pitchers the serving on the bench in 1987 through 1985. also serving as an adjunct professor at sea to moscow and published six books and a there'll terrific. his latest title it is dangerous to be right when the government is from. [laughter] great title. please join me in welcoming a true champion judge andrew napolitano.

[applause] nice to be here. you better do a good job to introduce the character stossel. we first met 1969 when i was a freshman and he was a senior. up at the block students at princeton together. he had long hair, writing of left wing ragged wearing a t-shirt that said burn it down, baby. [laughter] i had a crewcut and a t-shirt that said bomb hanoi. [laughter] since then the two of us

have answered the siren call of human freedom and have devoted our careers to the defense of it on the bench of the superior court of new york city court room he has done so on television. most why does he have 19? because he is honest and steadfast and on top of his game. i was at princeton the day he compared the presidency of wilson and james madison. you can imagine which one he

favored the. [laughter] then a lady pokes be in the ribs every time it praises madison. she said you should tell stossel he should come here to do a show at princeton. there be 1,000 students screaming. really? review where students here maybe you were the only two libertarians. i am thinking is she a net job? i said my name is santa napolitano. she said yes. i am sure the tillman the president of princeton university. [laughter] there is your invitation. one day i was getting carried away on the air and used a phrase i know there

are arguments on the other side but it added the afraid taxation best theft. jon says you are killing me. when you say something like that. might in box says why don't you say that? [laughter] jonge is a champion of human freedom has a gift and explained in the way that everybody can understand. nobody finds disagreeable. looking at literature from reason and advertising this feature will be giving and there was a pitcher of john stossel playing volleyball on the beach with a bunch of

19 year-old's. if you blink three times you could not tell which one was him than the 19 year-old. sometimes i say that is what i want to look like when i grow up. [laughter] on the bench i said that is what i want to be like when i grow up now he is the man i admire most part of my friend, colleague and mentor. john stossel. [applause] >> thank you. that is very kind i should say i interviewed him for my first tv special branching out in your direction. he was so careful and quiet

and tended we could not use it. he has changed. [laughter] he is far more brilliant with principles of liberty. i come added to as a reporter not understanding but seeing how it worked approaching the economic side. that is why it "no they can't" is about. did not give an these two people at fox they give those to socialist reporters bashing business. that is how i won those. then i wised up and i stopped when a. [laughter] "no they can't" is a play off the last election campaign the excitement of the politician yes we can. the intensity it is great if

there are three people but but it has come to mean the state. but it is intuitive. maybe you understand but to most people people don't trust government with congress 12 percent approval rating but the next time the crisis happens the instinctive reaction the government has to do something. think september 11. takeover airport security. tom daschle said you cannot professionalize if you don't federalize. people were scared. screen years obeyed -- obeid all faa rules

the unlocked cockpit doors was legal but they were minimum-wage in private profit seeking contractors people thought that was the rest. now we have the tsa. how was that working? [laughter] i did not understand the extent damage more do they spend? ten times as much and private counterparts. and allot to save your city once to opt out to that most of the world uses with private contractors competing, which is better and you can fire them, and you can add couple places have. san francisco and kansas

city. people say the screeners are nicer. line moves more quickly. tsa undercover studies find they are much likely to catch contraband in san francisco. in its private contractor who half's to work hard to keep the job. they run contest the best screener can win $2,000. pad the bag the most quickly? to keep the airport's happy, -- shift the screeners around so the line keeps moving. the other airports want them but did tsa a ignores the request for year than finally they said we don't

think this is advantageous to the federal government. that is the new standard. not to keep people safe but the bureaucracy has built the empire. of a goal is to keep going. it is not intuitive when people shout yes we can. i have learned this the hard way cheering on and government regulation when i saw it did not work. it is not intuitive we have to work hard to explain that we're not wired to understand how the hell we are programmed to believe

mommy and daddy know best we lived in tribes other bias you died and did not give birth we're program to to follow the leader it does not make sense to you but not to most americans see their. trying to explain to people and over here running a contest to introduce two high-school students but when a sample of success is south america. one country is doing quite well. the biggest reason is

creating private social security accounts. everyboby has little savings but in the through the simple innovation they have prospered. he went to most every state to sell that and got nowhere because people are horrified. i go to chile and expect to find people who say this is great but nobody says that. they say the bank added ministers the fee is too high. nobody anders stands the mechanism that made in their lives better. it is true in hong kong with milton friedman the most

popular high-school video. wise america prosperous? because we're democracy. i say so is chindia and it is poor. it is the same as new jersey [laughter] america has natural resources. what about hongkong? lourdes world of that first world in 50 years. why? because said economic liberty and the places better freer the best places to live but this is not intuitive.

opening a business months to open hongkong one day. but they make the same comments. the government should step in to fix the problem. i know all of you are reading the "new york times" less but i read day because i have to know what my neighbors are worshiping and my former abc colleagues. [laughter] did you see the cover this week? they made her an icon which is impossible to live up to. mrs. storey of the movement in chile but there is inequality. people are very upset to see

they have vocational riots why is said to college three? he had a good answer to fed davis system calling it a consumer good to say we would like many famous to be free but when said and done nothing is free. somebody pass to pay. usually popular remember the miners were rescued? part of the problem this look around you. the others look like her the

23 year-old communist with a nose ring. she is popular now. she is wending and answered by saying of course, why not the state in nationalization of resources to say i entrepreneurs add speculated of thousands of people from july and family is. the popularity ratings are at 22% the student movement is 72%. parted did she is young and

good-looking but these ideas make sense. the adr our brains to economic reasoning fights the way we you are wired to see how impersonal market forces solve problems nobody celebrates these marginal improvements. but it is economic freedom. that works. here at the manhattan institute you fight this peter said we are taught you can manage life to paper and procedure they set up the

assumption they will compensate the victims who were injured by the agree the corporate sellers in the tour du from doing it again. big company is selling drugs they should have put up more warnings who but we will compensate? through government or private charity but this is awful because most money goes to the middlemen. ad the defense costs and court costs 70% goes to the middle man and it takes 10 years to get paid. one harvard study showed

people were not victims of malpractice. if they were, they did that get anything and allows these guys to buy private jets and kill innovation. when you fire someone why? lazy and reckless you don't tell the company that because human-resources will say are you crazy? we will get to a labor lawsuit spending $100,000 to defend your decision. american does not tell delta they fire at a pilot because he was a drug. makes us less safe.

we need more labels never looked at a birth control label? i have. [laughter] i have yet to give birth. [laughter] could tie 849 print you would not want it anymore if you read this the do not make us safer but deprived of innovation. please threefold this for me [laughter] intuitionism on their side. yes we can. make use safe. capitalism performs miracles for we have lifted more

people at of misery from the third world more than 94 why is education free? occupy protest once more we take it for granted supermarkets have 30,000 products and rear the boys then anybody. to read taken for granted i could put a plastic in the wall and cash comes out and then a stranger gives me a car in the set and mastercard has it correct but the government cannot count the votes accurately but obama was elected on the message part the we will fix health care. by the time it passed it was not popular but most people

wanted the government to do something. it has already been messed up by the government steps but the results are already out there the detroit center says it was using bar codes to keep track of patients and medical records. think about it supermarkets tibet 40 years ago. coke and pepsi are less important bay and our battle records. -- medical records but it took 40 years of insanity and frederick hayek says the curious task is to teach man

how little he and stands what he thinks he can design. that is what i hope to do with "no they can't." it is a big battle clearly levying people free make us prosperous. the free part is the most important is sounds vague but just as important because individuals in their freedom matter it is a more objection to say if control over our lives is diminished we cannot tell the neighbors to the busload not just less free but big government makes all of the smaller.

fig you for fighting against it. [applause] >> please wait for the microphone. >> i will have you do the microphone you go quick. >> thank you very much where it entertainment and education on a tv. as we talk about firing

people unfortunately to say it cost only $100,000 of legal fees. i may conservative. i wondered where you would say as people speak about government intervention where does libertarianism end and anarchy began? i assume you want to avoid that but have read them for the people? >> founders had it good with the constitution. basically they can do

anything that is peaceful. there is a role to make sure i don't kill you or hurt you were take your stuff others say pollution but i am happy to have pollution and control rules or a safety net and america grew fastest during 150 years less than 5% now it is 40%. under 5% would be good. [laughter] >> i saw your program last night. >> sometimes professor of scions. you had something on headstart showing it is a failure that has been known

almost from the beginning. >> i did not know that. >> i did. >> by a lot of pass to be evaluated every year then stockpiled. do you really think it is about helping young children were airport security the terrible programs are not terrible with jobs so how do respond many more are on the job creation and they are a very good. >> i think the people behind the programs think they will work and how could it not? and pass to.

our kids we read to them. why not spend government money? to give if the truly be a head start? then they are not as far behind. finally the government evaluates and compares later. not just high-school but they could not tell who had it and who didn't by first grade. just did a reasonable world to say private screeners to a better job at 1/3 the money but they don't do that but then headstart spent

more by the. they all they grow. >> thank you for the work that you do working in commercial real-estate of retell properties if you see that canadian pension plan it manages social security money pouring billions over the border bush thought that -- brought that up that to me it seems like a tremendous winter because it appeals to the and regeneration and to investors because canadians can spend 30 billion we

spend 300 billion and roughly eight are you familiar? >> i am not. i am struck by bad. you don't publicize your success. >> i am america i would be happy to share. >> canada is a success story rethink of it as a socialist country but on the indices they are ahead of the divided states. 20 years ago a liberal government saw they were on track to go broke they cut spending not like washington did but actual spending, raised taxes but cut dollars they have no

fannie are free the -- fan year freddie. they have done well and the canadian dollar is worth about one. they have done better. >> the government once to be the of policemen how they work on that assumption. the u.s. get rid betty would find 80 percent says we should not. the most people say iraq was

not a good radio we should get out of afghanistan i think there has been some question but this is different in economics. >> i have a chapter on defense and a start by saying i am uncomfortable because i'm surrounded by all these people and they say we need to be these places but government has failed why would reassume it is good at policing the world? we have 50,000 soldiers in germany. i thought we won that war. [laughter] also south korea eisenhower

military industrial complex lives on people say would be less of a safe place looking at department of all men security we should attack people who attack us in should not be isolationist. we should trade with other people and write books and distribute in those countries but to say we can police the world it makes more enemies. >> producer of freedomfest freedomfest, i watch a lot of your shows and it seems

more and more when you confront the government agencies how ridiculous they refuse to comment, due you find this happens more and more or less and less? what is your experience value moved to fox news? >> som would see abc and they would talk. with fox they really want to corporations are no better they don't want to talk if you have bad news. >> you said the founders had

it right? >> not slavery. i stand corrected. >> fayyad we the people. not the government by the 14th amendment we provide a vivid the right to vote and it provides for equality of treatment with respect to accommodations so you have the notion of freedom. would be repealed that amendment or the civil-rights act? >> why no you give the

microphone to andrew napolitano to answer the question. [laughter] give him a microphone. [laughter] i will start it off to say yes. i would repeal the parts of the civil-rights act i don't have the right to to discriminate bess adults and by one to hire only to regions that should be by right to end this civil-rights act most of our history was government discrimination and they allies to slavery or jim crow but not to tell private

citizens who to associate with. he represents a libertarian be you better than i. >> i cannot say it any better. the whole purpose of that amendment means the state cannot discriminate on the basis of race but nothing about private some of the 14th amendment is the linchpin to free them or we have tierney. that is a step the founders never contemplated. >> drive could regulate

private behavior. jim-crow had to go win the unelected judges gave us brown v. board of education but that was their principles. >> if i run a hotel market would correct for that. the market would sort that out better. >> guy look at the assets of most of the media also getting transfer payments that nobody wants to give up.

shouldn't we applied the title "no they can't" to our side. i get despondent sometimes. >> i am not good at that. [laughter] thomas jefferson did say it is natural progress for government to grow and liberty to yield. i never thought welfare would be peeled. but then losing ground was written toothache how they people have got 10 that welfare how capitalist produce win i said "no they can't" i left out that does not need we can't add by

entrepreneurs pursuing profit and music had trouble also private sector that seems to overcome the trend with there are more people are age and look at steve. states suddenly pay attention state pension funds? this is now in the deuce i

am optimistic. >> i am heather. i ride the randolph foundation. to see this this intellectual but to be sympathetic i am sure many people have come to you to say they have the same epiphany. water those arguments and observations to have those on trade points? >> as a reporter i cheered bond regulation then

discovered "reason" magazine. i know nobody who has the same path the most common answer is i believe until i try to start a business. even george mcgovern said that we cannot persuade everyone to start a business. we have to get them and high-school. >> we know about obamacare and what it may do but researcher program under the radar.

>> every area? i was told today somebody announce the federal government requires all private contractors to hire 7 percent disabled people. once they start paying for health care they tell you what you can eat and have exercise police to run laps. do pushups health care is big it will pay group first is medicare. people our age who and people don't know they get back to earth three times what they paid because we

rue the refuse to die. we want the cool stuff that we can get. >> the question raised by bill clinton referring back to this state's with those gifts when you look gab bad private charities united states provides and the grants made to foreign nations we are the most generous in the world but it is where they made. >> you answer your own question. it is not true what they say because private individuals give.

what right does my government and have to forcibly take money from the and give to other countries? ron paul is right to. that aid should be given to individuals and americans are generous that way. americans are the most generous but people don't even give their average. south america is not even 1%. >> what you said is the basis of your book it is not obvious how leads to a prosperity that we have been

if that is true then why we have a march toward democracy but to has spread around the world people say this is said natural a pollution but it is natural to our way of thinking. >> i don't but when you see whether people have you say water we doing wrong? in communist china they saw prosperity. and we should try experiments. they let each province set its own rules.

the blog, the bureaucracy that resist all the becomes more powerful but then they see johnnie is happy to go to school, she wants what he has. if they are at a private or charter school it fights the states. the spiderweb does continue to grow. >> from the manhattan institute. talk about the appeal that government can solve our problems another is growing and the quality is a serious problem. do you agree with the data that to there has been

stagnation anti-think it is a problem also with the policies but to what if it was not? would you say that was a problem? >> no. if people are freed but i say it is a problem the been chilly education equality i am annoyed joe has more money than i have. by one that. is your major and they do

that the people on the bottom card just as poor. but those that are now in the top. but it is a political problem because people don't like the disparity. >> i like what you said that people are always reaching out to for what they want without working for it. we have changed to a cadre

of a tenement 41% now as they feed into the system speaking to a teacher to you ladies say they would give me an apartment and $310 per month. both sides cover its it just keeps increasing. >> you don't want to love her star on the street? >> why not.

[laughter] and has to be less than clear then they say you go along with it. >> there is no need to let people starve industry before we had the bureaucracy we had practically nobody starved on the streets than private charities did it better to say the woman who would get pregnant just because she got free stuff but basically not overtly driven people

said i don't need to do this said they bore the government does it badly. >> there is a car waiting for you. think year. [inaudible conversations] [applause]

>> my connection to the foundation goes back years. you saying allot of the work from vion research, by his riding has been helpful to me with my own attempts to think differently of the politically and economic liberation and for african-americans. united states is then an incredible place standing at

among the other nations in the world. i was reminded how great this place was an alabama. as gambia county is where my family's plantation was propelled i a stand here as a descendant of slaves from alabama up. slavery reconstructions kumbaya jim crow, the civil-rights movement, this is my family story. of struggling and fighting for humanity and a culture saturated with injustice and

the humanization of. what is amazing is not only does my family know where the plantation is but we now own it. member's ears of my family are currently living on it the have property rights codified by the rule of law. how many countries is it possible for people who were once slaves then actually own the property they were enslaved upon? that is what makes this place amazing we notice the

progress by having the of black family in the oval office. not to many countries uc people rise to that status just after the civil-rights movement. it is amazing to me. i personally am delighted to think of our founding principles that allow us to be descended of slaves with a ph.d. at the heritage foundation speaking to you about my second book? it is the narrative of

freedom and of liberty and empowerment that the country offers to those who want to take advantage of it. i name to my book black and tired on purpose. because i am black. if you can tell. [laughter] i wanted to remain connected and this jury of raising two success from this country because hopes come a dreams come aspirations come rebellious, principals create conditions to put me here j.r. seven tie edged and eroded by those with good intentions but does