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>> you are what jane booktv. over the past year we go to universities to meet and professors who are authors and introduce you to their works joining us from charlottesville is the chair of the department of middle eastern languages and cultures and the author of words, not swards but the freedom of movement. what is your book about? >> thank you for giving me the honor to speak with you and introduce my book to your wonderful audience.

have an appointment also with women's studies and i am proud to be a member of that department. words, not swords is about segregation in the islamic world. although i believe the main pieces could be applied to the economies of north africa. i have an argument in the book. in the next 160 years women have been at the forefront of the modernization movement in iran by

segregating themselves desegregating social space and the dominant discourse. >>host: what are some of their athens? but to be at but we both talk half of the time to discuss. but what are some in the early years of islam, when it were an active participant in the social life of the community, and social discourse.

they went to war and then the commander of the army, and so the yearly years women were much more active and -- than in the following years. and then the society's they're not necessarily a homogeneous but there are patterns that can continue. what is segregation?

the social space into the world of men that, politics that, politics, the streets and what not. the inside is what is considered the private. and over the course of the last century the women wear segregated further and further. and in the middle of the 19th century that some men and women the society was deprived of the contribution of half of the population from the public arena. you might be surprised to

know as early as 1848 before the senate coveralls convention in upstate new york in which men and women discuss discuss and enacted this segregation of women. >>host: where did you come up with the title? >>guest: it is a long process. it took me 16 years to finish the book. in the earlier book i've focused just on the bail. i had come to realize there is something else.

through the help of women writers and other parts of the borough -- world that the denial of the freedom of movement was the cause and this and them of the gender inequity. to have a more democratic society in order to have the human dignity to leave their home and return as they wish. >>host: professor, who are 70 iranian the bid writers that you focus on?

>> starting 1848 with recognition that the social movement is why a pregnancy and cannot go back to a certain date but said it is said difficult place. the women who entered the space she allow themselves to interpret the picture.

but let me see. separating from the rest of the world, the united states of america. filet and i have adopted as my home. it has paid less and less literally to the translation. there has been a lot of more translation of english literature than there was from the land that many considered to be the end of the.

>>host: is there a contemporary woman right to you would recommend? >>guest: absolutely. let me say first in spite of the islamic republic or because it is usually u.s. wants. the big men are center stage. one example. 1947 the first major collection of short stories pro but then passed away a couple of weeks ago.

at the age of 19. when they pull it goes back and cannot you don't need a directors, crew, the women are formed in the segregated society. 1947 you have those 30 equal to the number of men.

but look gain at conscientious when this talk about the national poets of our country. not recognized by the government but by the people. inside and outside that could to save. the first time has become day woman from my country. >>host: we're really lowered cover raised and studied? >> i was born in tehran. appearance took everything they had to the education

they had prefer i am less with four brothers. they said the us to a french school. i was raised by catholic nuns. >>host: in france? >> and i ran by iran by such people. some were secular. >>host: were your parents wealthy? >>guest: not excessively rich but they were the upper middle class. >>host: would you consider your family to be secular or to about? >>guest: but my a sign i

had never seen her prey or fast. >> she prayed by a could not consider myself the presence of women. my first teacher was my mother. >>host: blared did you go to university? >>guest: i arrived in the united states of america ugh december 17, 1967. i went to cal state where i

earned bachelor's degree in arts. then i moved to ucla. then steadied french literature. then almost done with my graduates i knew i would write my a dissertation on flaubert and madame boveri. but then i decided to switch midget -- majors to comparative literature so i could write to mind the iranian wended poet says that of. many teachers except one thought it was professional

suicide. some of my teachers jokingly said she has the unpronounceable name i'd like you do. with an i am very, had. >>host: did you stay in the united states and to become a citizen and is. >>host: if it was just the revolutionary time, he concise served -- peat pez i

served my parents did not think it was is so why is to return. i had children by then so why did not go back. i have lived here since then. >>host: have you visited? >>guest: after the revolution. because i believe in the freedom of conscience and in fact, both books talk of of the islamic republic but the author is a precursor of tradition and for that movement. i thought it was why is not to go back. but when the country was

liberalized, i went back but i have not for the last seven years. >>host: what was your experience? did you visit with women writers or was it a family trip? >> i visited with family but i did meet with the benin writers and artists. as i told you at the beginning, it was say renaissance. there are many liberators who write to beautiful works of art.

we have a more women directors the we have had in the whole previous 400 years of history in my country. rehab a win-win painter painter, there's, made it. fantastic win actors, we. if day puts aside the government to focus but

north africa literally a movement to win the west talks about the need to modernize, know what do you think? >> i tell them is a good idea. and the desire started more than 160 years ago. and to sacrifice life and limb with democracy and gender equity. to tell them if they do not start to a board they cannot stop that simple movement.

and with that movement that has started to be allowed to flourish if you allow me to add to look at the non-violent resolution. as you knew she was married to a serial killer. and she become become -- volunteered to become the wife of the serial killer. he was betrayed and the ada

he would never be betrayed by women again. sold the relationship with women he would be head the old woman in the morning some she could never have a chance to betrayed him again. i believe in the power of words. >>host: what is this photograph? >>guest: it is by one of fire rands foremost visual artist she is very a kindly and generously allowed us to use this photograph.

from one of her fantastic films. it is a group of and the central thesis i thought to this most appropriate. >>host: we are talk gained with professor farzaneh milani. words and not swords is herb book. this is a book t be on c-span2.