months. i mean, this new regime in north korea has only been in power for a few months, and in the broader scope of history, there's ma regimes that have lasted months, years before something major happened in terms of change so i think the verdict is still out on this. i don't think that we can simply assume that everything will go smoothly and they will be able to muddle through forever because prior to the death of kim jong il in december of 2011, if you asked any expert, i say including you, scott, what would be the most important variable to create major change in the country, and i think everybody would have agreed the sudden death of the north korean leader, so i think we have to respect what we thought before, and i think we all have to watch carefully what's going to happen because i think the future of this regime is not at all

certain, and the ramifications if something happens will be huge for the united states and for others in the region in a way that will manner for the average american, and that's why. id to write the book. >> host: thank you, victor. we had o good conversation, and i appreciate the chance to further explore some of the issues that are in the book. >> guest: thanks very much, scott.

what happened. this is about half an hour. >> hello. i'm marc, the curator of the united states navy memorial, and we are pleased to have you all here for another in our authors on deck book series. most of these have been at noon but some of our high-profile ones like this week in the evening, and just check our web site for information and we can get you on our mailing list. some of the ones we have coming up on june 4th is a part of our celebration of the 70th anniversary of the battle of midway. we will have a ceremony at 9:00 in the morning with the chief of

naval operations and honored midway veterans. the odyssey of the curve bricker who outwitted yamamoto at midway it's one of the words really interesting topics and a fantastic day to come down here to the navy memorial to see what we are about the distinguished author fdr final victory the remarkable world war ii presidential campaign. he's done a number of books on fdr and his presidency and this one should be a nice addition to that body of work. on july 19th we will have arctic commissioned 90 degrees north by air ships and submarines a new naval institute press book by william about a post world war ii navy expedition using submarine ships to go to the north pole and on august 3rd in

honor of the coast guard birthday we will have a new book by thomas from the united states coast guard national defence. again, those programs are at noon here at the navy memorial. as you all know and have been trying to get the book market's new book by little brown publishers is service a navy seal what war written with james horned fisher and we regret that we've ran out of books. i can come to light if we are not able to get books markets can sign one for you after the talk. marcus luttrell as a native of consul texas. he joined the navy in 1999, and after becoming a navy seal in 2002, he served in many dangerous special operations assignments around the world. after serving the two tours and iraq, he was deployed to afghanistan in the spring of 2005. for his actions during operation red wings, petty officer first

class luttrell was awarded the navy plans for combat terrorism in 2006 by president george w. bush. after recovering from his wounds, he served as the second tour in iraq and received his discharge from the navy in june of 2007 and a very popular speaker you can see that by the great turnout tonight in 2010 to honor his comrades from operation red wing he established a lone survivor foundation dedicated to honoring and remembering american warriors by providing unique education rehabilitation recovery and will miss opportunities to the u.s. armed forces service members and their families. please join me in welcoming marcus luttrell to the navy memorial. [applause]

please, sit down. all right. thank you all for coming out. for my first signing of service. there was a pretty good introduction. were there any questions? >> i guess we can take some time to talk about the book service and kind of where it came from and the idea behind it and where we are going with it and then maybe take some questions. is that cool? a small crowd if not we will cut it at that. like the gentleman said, finished afghanistan fell and the hospital for a while having surgery kind of putting helmke devotee back together again if you will. they didn't tell me out there they did a pretty good job of

being me up. it took a long time to recuperate getting a well enough to our to redeploy. one of the biggest things that was weighing on my mind is the fact that an active duty fraud man to go to war its just the way it is and the fact i had to come off the line for so long, there was really bothering me, and it's one of those things if there's any country boys in here talking, you can get your butt kicked, patch up and go in for more. that's kind of where i was standing and i got beat up pretty bad. i lost my teammates and that is another thing the was weighing heavily on me. alladi use the term in the book and i talked about it a couple of times today as revenge, the reason to go back. there's a few things in the military that we don't deal with and recall that the three r's, revenge, robbery and rape. we don't mess around with that. however the motivator it will

get you out and get you moving into places that you think you won't go and that's why we used it. i was sitting around thinking of certain things, and when i got to that point about the revenge part it fired me up. i got into it. so i harnessed that kind of energy a few well. i was scared to death. i don't know if i am supposed to say that as a navy seal plans for others, and you know what i'm talking about. i didn't know how it was going to play out and the worst part when i platoon up and went back over i was supposed to be in the logistics role. something happened one of the chiefs went to do something else and i got bumped up to the chief of the platoon.

i don't know if i'm ready for this. we went out and i remember the first time we got shot that i froze. all i remember is the fact i hope my god i don't see this because that's another thing about fear is if you you are in the leadership to this i assure you guys know that you are afraid and you really can't say that. i put on a pretty good game face. three seconds went by and a bullet passed my head and was all back to me. it fell back on to me like warm water out of the pitcher so to speak. i got the energy back and then i was ready. so we hit the ground running and operated pretty good for about three months. we were in ramadi and al anbar if anybody knows where that is

it was right before the surge and it was tough. i remember thinking i'd never seen anything like that, how bad it was and i was also thinking maybe this wasn't a good idea to comeback. but i played the game for about three months like i said, and then on a particular operation i was on the stairwell and busted up my knees and then i was out, they were having to carry me around. will redeem 20 minutes they would have to pick me up. i was constantly in the office on the machine and doing everything i could to get back up and go back at but it just wasn't in the cards. i remember thinking when i walked back into the poll to with my commander and my senior chief when they sat me down and told me i was coming off the line on a remember thinking that

hit me like a ton of bricks. i actually felt betrayed and hurt and kind of like a coward or whatever it was rolling through my head at the same time because i'm a navy seal, that's what i do for a living. when someone tells you said you can't do what you were born to do come imagine that. i'm sure there's people in here that know what i'm talking about. there's millions of people in this world that go to work every day and they just do it to do it. it's not really what they were meant to do. it was like hitting a brick wall at a million miles an hour. it totally brought me down. not that i'm in, or i don't know how to roll with the punches and figure something out because i do today i figured out how to go on with life. but it's always in the back of my head. every day from the time i wake up to the time i go to bed, the fact that i'm not any more.

some days are harder than others but it's tough and i remember i wasn't married then, i was married to the philippines and that's the thing i have kids coming at me and i am entering them whenever you don't try to get married while you were 18 because everything goes by the wayside when you do this job and so i lived and breathed it and i'm married now. i met a wonderful woman that pretty much saved my life and brought me out of the shadows so to speak and the funny thing is i wasn't looking for one, she just appeared out of nowhere and audio for everything. they see behind every good man is a good woman and i didn't understand that phrase until i met my wife and it is extraordinary. that is another thing that when they came to me with the idea there was actually a book

similar to this was written about the world war ii generation, the greatest generation, and it talks about the export of men and women in combat and when they came up with the idea i was like yeah it's a great idea because i know a lot of -- i served with a lot of guys down range who have done things that make what i do and what i did not on the same comparison that you never hear about it. this happens all the time and you never hear about it, and i'm going to give credit where credit is to some of the stories are true and service about the guys i served with and everything that we went through including hammadi. there's a couple chapters in the book about operation red wing that we couldn't talk about in the beginning that we talk about now and one of them is about adelson and i read that chapter and if it ever hits you pretty hard that chapter is going to get ahold of you and talk about

the guys on rescue. everything you've ever read in the comparison how crazy that rescue was coming get me out of there. get us out of their come excuse me. so, i try to do justice for those guys as well and then one of the chapters like i said it's cold warrior queens. everybody knows the hardest job in the military is the military spouse, and i think that they don't get credit for anything. normally they just get the rauf end of what goes on in our day. i said i wasn't married when i was in the philippine but i had plenty of calls that were. i watched what went down and that is another reason i didn't get married while i was there. i just think that if they needed some recognition i went around to some of the wives and widows and talked to them about it so basically what you are reading is their words and mine and my script and that's my opinion, it's their words, so my hope is

that touches a lot of people. everyone asks me with the most important chapter of the book is and i think it's got one. it took me awhile to get that the way that i wanted it. as a matter of fact i render the book kept getting pushed back because the chapter wasn't ready. it wasn't going out, and if i didn't understand how the book world worked, i was overseas still fighting. i cannot and i didn't care anything about i was like it the story out there and get it right. i remember when the operation went down the media would spin everything was going on and they just kind of filled in the blanks. they told my mother i was dead. my mother thought i was dead for four days. i don't know how you rebound from something like that. they're like we are going to put the story out you need to tell us what happened. so it was basically to set the record straight at what went down out there and service is to

follow on to that because people ask me what happened after this or that and hopefully i filled in a lot of the questions with everything i wrote in their. i'm sure there's going to be more questions i didn't answer but hopefully i got a good start on that and it basically closes out with like talked about earlier i'm doing now what i said it started those loans are fifer foundation. it was basically an idea that spawned from my own world. i remember when i was in the hospital after one of my surgeries' by dr. was like what can we do for you? send me home, what my mom fatten me out. i was in a hospital room just dying to read a great job of catching us up but if you lay in them for a while all of the deeps and the needles and the pills they drive you crazy. i was like just send me home. when they did of course they came with me.

i was like that's not what i meant. i want to go home alone, but it worked. i got better and i got stronger because i was surrounded by people that were not telling me that i was injured or that i was sick or something was wrong with my head. i was with my brother and teammates and friends telling me you are a man go back into it and get after it. we don't accept weakness in my family. most of it comes from my mother. imagine that. so, we don't cry around here. get back up and go back in so that's what i did. and i thought if that can work for me that can work -- i'm not special in any way. you have to beat me before i start getting back to you basically so we started and it's working. one of the things is different between our foundation and other foundations is we bring the whole family of there. i got better with my family. a lot of times a lot of the organizations just focus on the individuals themselves.

if the family is nestle already sent them back into that where they came from so we bring them all out and work on them like that and it works. i'm not saying it's the end all and be all but it definitely does get things. there's multiple out there at that time and they try to send me into these headshrinkers and everything like that and that is a good thing about being an interrogator you can try anything you want. [laughter] used to have a lot of fun with them. [laughter] you get three or four guys out on the ranch in the middle of nowhere hunting and fishing and eventually the conversations are going to come up this is what is going on in my head and jurors and this is how i deal with it how did you deal with it and you'll be surprised at how fast that works better than a pill from somebody that hasn't been in combat. do you know what i mean? i'm not trying to downgrade doctors or anything like that.

don't get me wrong but i think what we do out there does a lot of good for people as well. there's a lot of things going on in that book and i am proud of it. i busted my hump pretty good on that. i want it to get a lot of stuff off my chest basically. lone survivor, i was locked down on my could and couldn't say and i pretty much got it out of their and that helped a lot so i hope you enjoy it as much as i enjoyed writing it. anybody have questions? >> did the enemy and know that you were there and did the heavy bounty on you because of what you did in afghanistan? >> no bounties in afghanistan. i wouldn't imagine that it

trickled out. they did a good job of keeping me under cover, you know what i mean? obviously we ran across the stuff was leaked out here and there but for the most part, my team surrounded me and cradle to me and covered me. if somebody's going to get meteor going to get me. nothing you can really do about it. that's what things to the people don't understand what terrorists. if they're willing to give their life for yours you are one step ahead of them and that isn't always the case. so i don't worry about dying. it's a part of life. i've done a lot of living. i don't release when it. obviously now that i have a wife and kids it weighs on me a little bit more bring it on. that's kind of the way that i look at it. >> i think we started last january. i was in the hospital. the pettis deadline on us like

we need this done on this day. i will get it out there. just watch me work it around in the hospital for other surgery and then i got married and i had a kid. i may need a little more time. they were like no, no more time. all right. it was pretty comical. five different versions of the bulkeley on the floor. that's wrong. that doesn't jive this needs to be here and this needs to be there. i don't think i write like conventional predators and it all comes from my experience. i'm not really a writer i am more of a storyteller with my own experience is that is the difference between me and other people when you read that it's basically like i'm sitting here talking to you. i did good in english but i'm not a literature major so there's no big words in there. a lot of pictures? that's kind of how.

anybody else? yes, sir. >> what would your advice be to a young man that wants to be a navy seal? >> young man that wants to be a navy seal. how much are we talking about? >> i'm having to deal with it now. my wife is like he's not going to be a seal. okay maybe he will be a seal. i naturally entering a kid right now that's in sixth grade and my biggest focus on him as education. i don't need you to outrun him. we don't worry about that. the sharpest thing about the seal is his mind. that's what separates us from ever anybody else to read a lot of guys have their masters. focus on your education.

when he's talking to me and i expect days out of you. i try to set the bar as ha as i can for him and i travel games at him because he will e-mail me like how do i meek my mind sharper? every day your dad comes home from work and leaves for work look at what he's wearing and remember that and then at the end of the week you wear your shirt on this or when sit in the window fixed. the next day dividend. it's one of those mind games that into sharper in sharper akaka. bad people are always going to be there. they can't wait to get into combat and get my gun on and it's not like using.

combat is very different. there's no coming back from that not only will the teams be there, they will also be there long after you were drawn. you have something to fall back on. the navy will give you many opportunities to do whatever it is you want to do with the really important thing is to make sure that you're educated and smart and no one can take that away from you ever and i really hit on him about that. the 18, 19-year-old guys coming over to me asking about stuff like that, the election identical vautrinot to college? in my opinion i think to go there first because of what i just said but some guys are ready to go and colleges and going to be for them. they are not ready to do college you can go to college in the

navy and go to college after that. my brother and i come in our plan was to be in the team's as enlisted through our 20s and when that cut off starts we are going to cover the the dark side and leaves our whole thing was we have to learn how to follow in the teams and get all of those schools sniper communicators and soak it up so that way when you are out on the field and you're communicators are like i can't because the sun spots you know everything. some are like okay, cool. if you are going to go into the team's is a commitment i in the same way. if you watch all that stuff on tv uc the discovery channel stuff composters the debate great job of making what we do look cool and sexy and stuff like that.

it's not cool like that at all. it is a man's world. when you step into that be ready because they aren't going to take pity on you. i was a grown man at 18-years-old i was ready to go. i'm young, you can take your but somewhere else. if you feel it in your heart, and that is what drove me is my heart and my gut i knew that had to be a steal get ready for it. if your young right now in the training regimen i wouldn't say like if you're getting ready to go, don't get out and do these ten total, michael runs because you are going to bring yourself, you're going to break something and get injured. you don't want to go in their busted, you will come out faster than you went in. meek sure you're in great shape does plenty of things online now

and opportunities these guys have going in that we didn't have. you just kind of saugatuck but now they are getting into when they go in there and they are in peak physical condition 18-years-old you should be able to run through wall and not have a problem with that. i tell the guys when they get in there there's a lot of people like i can't wait until next week to see what happens in the field training. i took it from mealtime and then i will quit and i get to lunch and then i will quit. that's all i did. it was hard and i kept doing that. i will quit because i don't like

getting up early to get something like that just to take my mind off what was going on. he's got to think of the structures are going to get tired of beating you these are some statistic guys that will stay out there as long as they can. but that aside, they don't want to be out there any longer than they have to, so anything terrible that's going on out there eventually ends. the chaos will always end. i'm going to make it through. they are going to kill me. if i'm dead they aren't going to know about it any way. that's the whole philosophy that i ran with and worked. all right. >> recently the past couple of years and months the team's and the community has been getting a lot of press but i know that they're supposed to be stealthy in the shadows. what do you think about that? >> i assure you it wasn't our fault.

it's stuff that we do and offline. people were killed and going to die. i remember the media when it went down in the media the day before the didn't care anything about it wasn't on anybody is radar. the the that it happened in a couple days afterward that of everyone talked about. they just have to know it should have been u.s. forces take whatever. i wont get into all that. i remember talking to guys like a week from now you're not going to care about us or what we are doing. but everything that you've put out here is going to endanger us. i have friends over there, reporters camped out at their schools and the restaurant and was a nightmare. they were like i don't know what to do. when you have a frog man saying that, that is a problem.

you're about to get me worked out. yes, ma'am. >> what about your relationship with -- >> yes, ma'am. i will talk about that. we are identical as well. we have a saying that we lived by the tune we came in together and we are going to leave together. if i don't talk to my brother three times a day i get anxiety. we are absolutely inseparable. my father was my father. he tossed the beatings pretty regularly so his whole philosophy of my brother and i is that we were -- she's the only person in the world that screen to be there for me no matter what women come and go. your brother will always be there for you. he pounded that in to us. it was a certain situation like we would come home at the end of the day and something happened to my brother back in the day

young boys fought and that's how you did it nowadays i don't know how it worked. if i can home my brother had a black eye and i didn't he would let me for not standing up for my brother and if my brother and i ever got into a fight last night we were 17-years-old and both of us london hospital but not so much as an argument since. if we ever got into it and when it was over my dad would with the twin that one for beating up his brother and the one that lost for losing. [laughter] it was rough. my mother was the shoulder to lean on. she was the comforting factor and my dad grew up with an iron fist. always. it was falter or server if i talked to him at all. >> people say that about twins. i know when my brother is sick even when he's not around me.

i know everything going through his head, and he for me. he's probably been in the hospital more times than i have, i think, but i don't know it would probably break me. if anything happened to my brother before my wife i would have been done, i would have died eventually there would have lost the will to live. that's how close we are. i don't know if it goes that deep, but we just came up with that on our own growing up together we were all we had. friends come and go but he is always there for me. we would serve we would arrive at the same helicopter and humvee and sometimes they wanted to separate us. i'm going to help him. i will fix him. if any of hermetic tries to touch him besides me. if something happened to me my brother would want to carry me

out of there. i'm not a very fast runner. we just bounced off of each other especially when we got into combat and all that stuff started falling i didn't tell him anything and he didn't tell me anything so it was really good to have them there. i don't understand the whole philosophy -- if both of us died well start over. i just know i want to be there with him, so probably a pretty rough way of thinking about it, but whatever. from the womb to tomb. >> time for one more. they are ready -- [inaudible] [laughter] >> yes, sir. stuck with regard to operation red wing what was the recommended course of action on the work groups?

>> you mean everybody out of our business -- >> thank you all. [applause]

he> richard burr kaiser, when ww talk about the founding fathers what is the era that we are talking about, what are the events we are talking about? >> we are talking about the american revolution and the writing of the constitution, and those are the two keaton's and everybody that played a major role can claim to be a foundinge father. now obviously the older onesrica have careers before the american revolution of the younger ones had care oers that went on quitn few years after the signing of the constitution but that is the what we are talking about. >> or some of the older ones and younger ones?in >> benjamin the franklin the in 1706. he knows cotton mather and the died in 1790. he signs both the declaration of independence and the constitution. the last to die was james madison. he is born in 1751, and then he

do is in 1836. 85 years old. so, he has seen the fight over missouri being admitted to the union. he sees nullification crisis but he is the last one. aaron byrd. but that's the other side. the dark side. >> host: in 2006, you wrote wow what would the founders do," wwfd, and in that book you write: the founders invite our questions now because they invited discussion when they lived. they were dry in public speeches and in journalism. >> guest: that's right. they set up a republic and they're very proud of doing that, and this is unique -- virtually unique in the world. there were -- holland had been

kind of a republic but that was going down the tubes so this was a unique form of government, and compared to all the competitors, month no, okays and whatnot, it's open. it's based on popular rule and, yes, of course, the franchise was restricted but still there is a franchise. so, voters, the electorate, has to be appealed to, has to be brought long and instructed, and they do this constantly. a lot of them are journalists. they write for the newspapers. some of them are professional journalists, alexander hamilton founds a newspaper that is still going on, the new york post. he founded it. was the first publisher. benjamin franklin was a great publisher, sam adam was a publisher.

it's hard to think of founders who didn't write journalism. george washington didn't. but that is very rare. even someone like james madison who didn't like or was great at it, he screwed himself up and wrote 29 federalist papers which were op-ed pieces in newspapers. so these guys, these men, know that they have to put themselves out there for the american public, which is their con constitute tune si. >> host: no it alls. >> guest: well, know it alls. they were well educated. it's a little country. the colleges we have -- he have a handful of colleges. they're tiny. harvard or kings college, which becomes columbia, or yale or princeton, they have a few dozen

students. unlike the thousands that they have today. but most of these men were college graduates. those who weren't made sure they read all their lives. they felt they had to be up on both the news of the day and the political theory of the day. they all knew their -- if you listen to their debates you would have thought that moscue the celebrate. and the knew their english history, their recent english history and they're ancient history. the history of the classical world. the history of rome and greece. the didn't always admire what they read. in hamilton and the federalist papers he says the history of the little greek city states is

disgusting because they all -- they go through cycles of tyranny and chaos and whatnot and that's what he hopes america can avoid. but that's a negative example. so you have to know the negative examples as well. >> host: you say -- tell me if i'm paraphrasing this wong -- our founding fathers were less well-traveled, perhaps even less sophisticated, than high school seniors today or veterans from iraq and afghanistan. >> guest: well, sure. it's harder to get around the world. and a crossing of the atlantic ocean takes 20 davis -- days if you're lucky. it can take 80 days of you fall in iceberg and storms. john adams crosses the atlantic and the ship is struck by lightning and everybody has to pump until they make landful. the passengers have to take

turns because the ship is filling with heart. so it is hard, it is hard to get around. it's hard to get around the united states. to go from new york city to albany, new york, if you took a hours, that would take you three days, on our own horse or a coach. if you took a boat up the hudson, that would take three days if the wind was right. if the wind was bad it could take you a couple -- ten days to get from new york city to albany. and now on a train it's like, what, few hours. so, yes, there are restrictions that come from not being able to get around. but the flip

writing assumes reading. it goes back to that question of, you know, a tree falling in the forest of there's no one to hear it. you know, if you've written a really wonderful novel than one of the parts of the process is that you want the readers to be enlarged and enriched by it and you have to pull on everything at your disposal. what are you reading this summer? book tv wants to know. >> this summer i want to read the book by robert draper.

it's sort of an inside look house speaker's and that he'd heard a freshman in the conference there's great lines that i've read that show just how crazy it can get in there with a lot of these freshmen better put in the tea party who are jubilee or controlling the way that the house is running even though their freshman in charge in the meeting told me get your in line, and i think congress has been so polarizing and an effective a book like this is great for summer reading to kick back and figure out some of what is going on behind the scenes as we watched nothing haen