the university of virginia what is the civil-rights section? >> guest: of federal part of the nez states government created before world war ii part of the department of justice and fought to to -- thought to protect individual rights. a first thought it meant labor rights. to collectivized and unions but race was more prominent on the national political scene and they thought of how to protect the rights of the african-americans and

workers. so it takes cases where black workers are at stake and prosecutes employers for violation of law. >> host: executive order or legislation? >> guest: executive order franklin roosevelt of the riposte -- at the request of the attorney general. frank murphy was from michigan and a big supporter and goes on to a career after word. >> what kind of press? was there eight controversy? >> not to that much press. seven people. what it does this because it

is small it lies below the radar screen. it became the civil-rights division 1957 and then double the incised and becomes its own division and becomes bigger the especially after the 64 civil rights act it grows and then still exist. >> host: how does that tie into your book? >> guest: is crucial. the book about civil rights 1954. between the new deal in the 1930's sam brown vs. board of education. to think about what civil-rights looked like

before. jim crow was state mandated segregation buffeted that is not constitutional. what has it looked like? what they thought jim crow did to them and their understanding is a lot broader. not only laws saying they go to different schools not only a sign over a water fountain but those who only higher weight to a more african-americans only for the worst paid, worse condition, most dangerous

jobs. federal in-state government interfering, and the image that comes out of the cases reveal 00 jeroen crowed that is much more total, economic , deprivation and and and exploitation with state mandated that wall. >> host: during fat period what is the success? >> guest: they had to do with agriculture zero workers in the south. they were the worst off and a lot of the complaints were from the work crews in the south held in slavery.

they asked for help in the civil-rights section prosecuted individual employers were holding them and involuntary servitude. they went to domestic workers and they complained not just held against their will because they could go to the storer but they were subjugated, fed little, paid almost nothing, not a day off there are cases they prosecuted even though not to hell been chain's zero or coercion, is of form of slavery crow of -- . >> host: when did the term comes into our lexicon?

when did legislation end, about to? >> guest: with american history it means different feigns. during the early 20th centuries civil-rights referred to property and contract rates of individuals to contract without interference from the government. in the mid 30's new deal regulation it is problematic. every individual cannot have right with no protection. then it refers to collectively the rates to collectively bargain, ed

collectively bargain, ed join a union, the fair labor act protected then the 1940's and '50's of a rapist is more entwined. but that is not always the case. and is not clear a civil rights means voting rights or keep to in a restaurant. if you look back have the civil war with the 14th amendment when it was ratified people fought it was about owning property and to sit on a jury but not about to social rights. go to a hotel hotel, restaurant, attend of

school and not political rights. so that definition is very different of multiple changes over the course of american history. >> host: where did you grow up? >> guest: brooklyn. my image of what it was to be an american, of very robust sense of history you go through europe and that alice i land and live in brooklyn. and college i a came across a book from james goodwin and took of class and the american south. we had gone to monticello and new were lands but really never thought about a completely different kind of

america. everybody by a new it was a few generations and very different ratio politics. i spent several summers in the south and after a graduated college and thought of loathsome thing i discovered is rethinking of jim crow at the southern experience. if you understand it was the whole nation. certain forms of state mandated acts a lot of the more private economic forms and that is why we have not gone as far because we

define the problem that was a national problem if read have not actually figured out the rest of it. >> host: why called "the lost promise of civil rights"? >> lawyers have a sense what it could take to underline to grow lucrative had the interpretation of the constitution that would have bet more underwriting all of these parts but one was called a victory. brown was a victory we don't want to go back to say there

is this other stuff. it is much harder. they want to build on those but we left a lot on the table. that photograph from the 1940's, african-american family living in the rural area. i like the fact she was determined and optimistic and ready to take whatever that was. >> host: professor risa goluboff her book "the lost promise of civil rights" published by harvard. >> i thought i would say a

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