william harrison really hadn't proceed to major biographical treatment since world war ii. he is in the sort of odd netherworld where he was the president and you would assume that is most interesting part of his life and yet he was president for such a short time. for heaven sakes people know more about millard fillmore's presidency then harrison so i think that part of the rub. i am not sure necessarily had to end up that way because if you look at his campaign for the presidency there is certainly no shortage of campaign literature and all the sort of unbiased biographies written of him so there's really no reason that he shouldn't have been sort of more famous. also too, people knew we were coming up on the bicentennial of the war of 1812, the major early american war effort, the revolution has a huge following in the mexican war and civil war have huge arts for the books and then the war of 1812 was slowed

to pick up that market and that interest. >> for more information about tvs recent visit to wichita kansas and that many other cities visited by our local content vehicles, go to c-span.org/local content. >> brian doherty examines the political career of ron paul, 12 term republican representative from texas and three-time candidate for president next on booktv. mr. doherty reports on congressman paul's political ideologies that range across party lines. following his talk there are marked by congressman paul's son, senator rand paul. this is about an hour and 10 minutes. >> alright, good afternoon. welcome everybody to the cato institute. in a secular vice president of the institute and we are trying something a little different

here, after work hours and we will see how that works out. hopefully it is good for people who have jobs. [laughter] and come to the events that we do usually have been. we are glad to have you all here and we are glad to have a very interesting discussion from sublet in. about 30 years ago there was a book published about the early years of the libertarian movement called, it usually begins with ayn rand. that is what we found here at cato that most of our interns, most of the students they came to our summer seminars had first read ayn rand. they read "atlas shrugged" and that is how they got into it. it. not all of them i any means but probably more than anything else. and i think you can say over the past six years, it usually begins with ron paul. that is where you get more people getting their first taste of libertarian ideas and then they move on to read ayn rand,

to read cato policy studies, whatever. but a lot of people being brought to the concept of liberty and limited government by ron paul in his campaign. to me it is clear that he got more attention and more success than more votes in this cycle, 2011/12 than he did in 2007/08 and i had a lot of reporters asked me over the last few months, why is that? i think to me, the clear answer is not because he did anything very different. he hasn't changed his views. he hasn't changed much in the way he presents them. what did change i think was the public policy environment in which he was talking. back in 2007, ron paul warned that an economy based on dead and cheap money from the federal reserve was not sustainable but the economy was moving and nobody wanted to listen.

then after the financial crisis when he came back around 2011 to campaign again, they were listening. in 12007/08 he talked about the importance of sound money and libertarians who said what's the problem with the federal reserve lex haven't they been maintaining the great moderation? by 2011 everybody was willing to listen to criticisms of the federal reserve or. in 2007 he talked about overspending and how the republican party had spent more than any president in history. republicans did not want to hear that. by 2011, perhaps because there was a democratic president, republicans were a lot more ready to hear that and i think in 2007, ron paul talked about endless military intervention and at that time republicans were determined to stand in lockstep, say the surge is working and refuse to listen to any criticism. by 2011 the republicans were

getting tired of endless wars. so i think all of that is what changed the context in which the second ron paul campaign took place and caused him to get more attention and voters did. many of you know there are headlines today saying ron paul suspends campaign. it's pretty clear to me if you actually read the on the headline, the campaign is not over. what he said is, he's not going to go run expensive television ads in the lingering primaries that nobody is paying much attention to. he's going to continue to do the kinds of things he has been doing, talking about the issues, giving speeches to thousands of college students and his volunteers working hard in caucuses than the other places that delegates are actually -- so that is an unfolding story that is still going on. how many delegates can ron paul

get? but that doesn't really matter to us today because this book is not about ron paul's campaign. this book is about ron paul's revolution, which is a broader topic than a specific residential campaign. ryan -- brian doherty is becoming the historian of the libertarian movement. he has written books on the burning festival and the supreme court battle over the second amendment both of whom have some libertarian content. he more particularly wrote the book radicals for capitalism, a freewheeling history of the modern american libertarian movement, which i declared as the insight cliff -- inside the media britannica blog is going to be the standard of the libertarian movement for a long time. it's a massive work of research that will be the standard source for people studying this movement. brian doherty is the senior

editor of reason. he's been there for more than a decade and before that he was a journalist at the competitive enterprise institute but most importantly he started his career as an interned at the cato institute. in fact, i think we had five interns that semester and one was ryan and one was the distinguished scholar brian caplan who is here in the front row, so that was a pretty good record for that year's intern class. brian doherty returned as perhaps the youngest ever managing editor of regulation magazine before moving on to other editorial projects. he has been covering ron paul since 1999, which is obvious in this insightful and well researched book so please welcome the author of "ron paul's revolution," brian doherty. [applause] >> thank you all very much. the mic is projecting well. i'm going to talk i think for

about 20 minutes to all a front end and there will be some questions later. i'm going to start with what i think was a very interesting frame for my history with the topic of my book. unfortunately the endpoint of that extended beyond the book itself so it's not reflected in the book. and as of this point is the first time i met ron paul and to this day, the last time i saw a ron paul. both of them were even at large state universities. the university of florida when i was a college student in january 1980. he was running for president than too with the libertarian party. i was a member of the university of florida college of libertarians and we had arranged the speaking engagement for ron paul at our campus. weich or we think around 100 people which excited the hell out of us. it was an amazing success and 10 times as many people came but they were all there to examine

the curiosity. it wasn't 100 libertarians. it was a third-party presidential candidate. let's check this out. our greatest triumph was getting 600 article in the school newspaper the other -- the next day and afterwards we took dr. paul i believe to an ihop. there's a picture that somewhere. we thought it was the height of radicals gaughey political activism. a few weeks ago the last time so far that i've seen dr. paul was also at a large state university at ucla in los angeles where i now live. 7000 people showed up to see ron paul running for president again, this time with one of the major parties, and they were not curiosity seekers. they were not even dare to really learn. they knew what this guy had to say right and left. the words and d. aa came out of his mouth they were going.

the word ben bernanke they were brewing and afterward, rather than really retreating to an ihop are getting an article in the school paper was watching groups of them gather to talk about their congressional runs or their runs for the l.a. county gop central committee or some big well attended events at their college campus they were about to throw or what they were going to write on their web site that had 5000 people reading it every day. the arc of the story from that first major college campus of parents, its latest one was actually dreamlike in a really weird way. we have been watching the story as long as i haven't made me think a little bit about what is the best way to frame how ron paul did this. one of the things you hear a lot about ron paul is about as rocksolid consistency which is very true, but i realized to a certain extent i believe they ron paul phenomenon works as well as it does because there

are four paradoxical decisions that ron paul bridges. i'm going to talk about four of them quickly here tonight. one of them is he is a phenomenon of real and impressive, real-world political success, yet one one of his greatest achievements are to a large extent irrelevant to that political success. i think especially in the wake of the so-called pullback announcement it's worthwhile reminding people of some of the objective measures of that political success, especially from 2008 to 2012. first of all success as a congressman, got -- at guide believing things that none of his other colleagues believe which leads to that dismissive comment that you hear about his career. if you are a guy that believes in the constitution and the u.s. congress in the 1970 to 2012 you are not necessarily going to get

a lot of bills pass but that doesn't mean you're not necessarily a good congressman. he managed to pretty much double his total and he managed to more than double his percentage of primary votes from around 4% to around 10% so far and i think in the end that figure will be even higher with the other candidates out and i think even though he might not be running in texas or california i expect his people will come out to vote for him in great numbers anyway. he raised $35 million last time around and by standard political terms, you would think he might have earned out his fans. they gave that much more this time which is interesting but i think the comparative might be more interesting. he gathered nearly twice as much as rick santorum and -- combine.

this guy has it they sue is willing to give them that is something very important in politics and something that the gop is seeing, is having real effects. they are able and willing to do the nitty-gritty politics and they are willing and able to run for central committee. they are able and willing to achieve positions of political power is not the right word but positions of high authority in state parties from alaska to iowa. they are able to win the delegations in caucus states just like ron paul said and everyone else said. they can do that retail politics stuff. this is a story of real political success in the analogy that the gop powers should keep in mind of gold -- the goldwater case of 19th that gathered around a heroic permanent figure

who had written a best-selling book and managed to surprise the establishment of the time of what could be achieved in the future. the more recent analogy is the religious right, wing of the party like the libertarian movement that paul represents, that may be outmanned in the majority rules way but that are so passionate about their ideas if they are going to be old to swing their way in the gop beyond their apparent numbers. it is a story of real political success but it's not about that kind of political success. it's not about winning control of the pe precincts. it is a continuation of the intellectual mission of the libertarian movement of which ron paul r. rose. he was educated to become the political thinker he is by the works of hayek and rothbard and publications like economic education. he has always embraced leonard

read of the foundation for economic education which was about educating one mind at a time. ron paul has use used politics is the tool for that over ibra tarrying goal and it's a tool that if you had asked me 10 years ago i would have said maybe was not the best tool but under sort of obscure outlier in congress but he has proven me 100% wrong by using the tool of electoral politics and one of the greatest educators for libertarianism of our time as david said. it's not just about politics. the other sort of gaffe that ron paul -- gap that ron paul bridges is the apocalyptic ron paul who was also at the same time the very hopeful ron paul. braun follows one of the only politicians around who is willing to say, america is not necessarily the greatest, richest, freest most wonderful

nation in the world that can only do write overseas and if there is anything wrong just flowed out that other boat and everything will be fine. ron paul is willing to say and foreign-policy terms that our behavior overseas is in some yss overseas buyer behavior. he is willing to say hey the series of decades, alien and not trillion dollar deficit spending is in poverty in us. it's not something we actually can continue. we can't just behave as we have behaved. he is willing to point out that we are facing serious, serious problems with our debt and fiscal crises that are not going to go by saying is mitt romney recently said, we can't have a trillion dollar spending cut in one year. that would shrink the economy and they can't keep thinking that way. we can keep pretending that it's okay that armed government agents will knock down our doors over raw milk or medical

marijuana. he is a true profit in that sense. he is willing to decry what america has become and that doesn't usually work very well in politics, and they think it does scare a lot of people about ron paul. at the same time as he explained to me when i asked him, how do you succeed with a message that seems so full of doom and gloom? he? he pointed out to me, especially the young people i talked to, they see the hoping it because i'm not just saying everything is doomed and we don't know what to do about it. we do know what to do about it. we do know that we can return our government to its constitutional limits. we actually can spend less than we are spending. we actually can bring the troops home. we sent them over and we can bring them back. he paints an intellectually consistent vision of hope in and the way out of the apocalypse which allows him to win hopeful enthusiasm, even as he rightfully paints a very dark picture of where overreaching government has led us.

the other interesting bridge that ron paul divides is the major political figure who is at the same time writer then write a more progressive than the progressives. he's a he is a guy who actually says when most republicans line up a hind paul ryan plan that will still be increasing our debt for decades, ron paul comes up with a plan that says we could actually achieve a balanced budget and stop growing the debt in five years and we don't have to raise taxes to do it. he is a guy who is actually saying hey, we talk about big government and government interfering in our lives. let's stop interfering in the people who want to buy and sell while milk and sell medical marijuana. we actually can have a government that is a government that conservatives say they want and yet when confronted with ron paul ron paul seem a little bit afraid of it. it is clear to me that ron paul out to remain the party candidate by acclamation in the

2012 race and it didn't turn out that way. i think it's not so much the fault of ron paul is the failure of real -- to be as conservative as they say they are on the part of the american right. i think ron paul is clearly the most conservative and consistently conservative candidate out there. at the same time he is also in many ways a more progressive politician than president obama who is unfortunately the favorite politician of the progressive left, such as it is. you have president obama who is expanded the president's powers to unilaterally imprison and even kill american citizens beyond george bush's attempts in ron paul is a guy who gets 7000 college students to boo and mere mention of the word national defense authorization act defined by president obama. president obama who has started new unauthorized wars, greatly expanded the civilian killing drone program resided over

continuing gigantic defense budgets, bigger than any in world history in the wrong paul campaign on the other hand for peace and withdrawal of u.s. military around the

that i discovered as i met hundreds over them. he is as i have heard various people say the only politician running for national office of whom you hear people say, i heard ron paul and i went out and read a bunch of books. you are not going to hear that about obama or romney and ron paul not only does he write books but those books have bibliographies at where ron paul's ideas came from.

he will lead you to rothbard and lead you to charles johnson. he is actually a genuine intellectual leader in moderate america even though i don't think he would claim he is himself a great intellectual. he is a great student of great thinkers and has been a very diligent and passionate transmitter of their ideas across the generations. yet at the same time being as intellectual as he is and even in his demeanor as he presents his ideas, he has not a podium from per. the guy is not selling emotion. i think there's a great emotional context to what he says about the richness of liberty. i'm especially interested to note in more recent talks i have heard him say. when ron paul talks he is extempore sing. as it might be obvious if you hear them talk and it becomes more obvious issue here and talk a lot come he doesn't have notes. he doesn't have speeches. is a set of ideas about liberty

and more recently has been talking in a sophisticated way about the sheer richness of a human life lived according to its own desires and its own choices. there is something philosophically important, not about what's is typically you do with your life but by the fact that you are about to actually choose, to craft your identity in living in the world and i see this moving his audiences on a very sophisticated level. by it being so intellectually consistent and so thoughtful and so bookish in this way he is managed to imbue these tens, hundreds of thousands of fans with an emotional attachment. it is a little bit to him, i do want to stress, a personality. it is to him because of his embodiment to him in public life

of the ideas that move him. ron paul is not -- in the sense that he could tell his troops where to turn or tell his troops what to do. ron paul is only a leader in the sense that he helps introduce people to a set of ideas that they have grown to hold great fealty to and if ron paul told his people to reject those ideas they are going to reject ron paul. they're not going to reject those ideas. and that emotion is going to carry this movement long beyond the 2012 election cycle, long beyond whether he has dropped out or whatever we want to say about his most recent actions. they are going to continue to work within politics. they will continue to work within the media, both distributed and non-distributed. i think a point worth noting that the single most heard answer when i asked ron paul the

question, how did you get on a list, was a youtube video. they would necessarily remember which youtube video at west end by that point they probably seen 200 at them and they probably made 100 of them but it was that distributive, noncontrolled means of humans making art in making culture and distributed amongst themselves to why the revolution has been able to succeed. the ideas the same. ron paul has been saying the same thing for 30 years and as david said part of why they are ringing truer now is the objective conditions of reality make it more obvious that ron paul was right about things like the federal reserve. another reason is that communicating those ideas have been so much more decentralized and widespread and while this may be the last year for ron paul as the national political figure, the reason why wrote this book is because i'm convinced it's true that 15, 20

or 30 years down the line as you look at the election of 2008 and 2012 the most important thing about them any historian will recognize would be that ron paul ran for president and the ron paul revolution that was launched. thank you very much. [applause] [applause] >> thank you brian. we have an excellent comments are today on the book and not ron paul's revolution. i publish some evidence recently at the cato institute log that i -- my native state of kentucky is the least libertarian state in the country, so imagine my surprise when rand paul in merged from an ophthalmology office in the little town of rolling green to defeat first as secretary of state and then the attorney general and win the seat in the united states senate. both his republican democratic

opponents ran pretty negative campaigns against him, accusing him of all matter of extreme libertarian views. some of the accusations were actually true. [laughter] >> i never admitted to any of that. and the voters wanted change in washington and they elected him by a comfortable margin. he was perhaps the most authentic tea party winner of 2010, which is why he then wrote a book called the tea party moves to washington. since he got to washington he has tangled with the dsa, proposed a budget that is actually balanced, drawn rave reviews for his efforts to reign in the patriot act, and then denounced as a libertarian extremist by a writer in national review. so what else is new? we couldn't have found a comment -- comment or who knows more about ron paul or who has more at stake in the future of ron paul's revolution.

please welcome the junior senator from the commonwealth of kentucky, the home of the eight time national champion university of kentucky wildcats, senator rand paul. [applause] >> i want to congratulate brian doherty on his book, "ron paul's revolution." i think he has got it right that it's more than just ron paul. it's a revolution. it's a movement and it's its part of the libertarian movement that it is something bigger than one person. i think my dad would be the first to admit that the movement is not just him. he realizes there is something bigger and he is fond of saying in the crowds, freedom is popular, it brings people together. no matter what walk of life you are from or what your personal brac ground is, people are better if government stayed out of people's affairs. if anybody goes to the grateful dead, there we go.

i never got into a concert but i got into the parking lot one time. by f-3 for cincinnati in two for detroit. i guess they were planning on going to the next concert. what reminds there the ron paul revolution in many different ways, i would see people, saw somebody orlando last week and i saw someone in iowa at the ron paul headquarters. briny think was there also in the headquarters, 250 young people from all walks of life from all over the country all working together in the headquarters. it always struck me that when you go to ron paul rally it wasn't everybody in suits and ties. it wasn't a chamber of commerce. you might see somebody with a tattoo and you might see somebody with a grateful dead t-shirt. but it was different. it was different in a better way i think. people from all different walks of life where there. i think he did make the message of freedom popular.

now david talked about how people came in to the libertarian movement, the ron paul movement by reading ayn rand. i sort of did that i am an amateur so i was born or libertarian. i also read the ayn rand novels and really enjoyed them in high school. you see some people backing away their, freighted ayn rand now. just because you like an individual doesn't mean oh -- i am representing every word. ..

>> there was a a whole new

positive response. i tried to convince the republican party. you may not like what he presented that your party and electorate is getting better. maybe people are not happy with those parties. independence, constitution party but they come in. you need a bigger party. something you never hear is at one point blessed are the war makers. it says blessed are the peacemakers. and have you ever heard another candidate say that? there is a continual battle. there are things we continue to fight. the patriot act had more

votes of no than ever before. people are concerned. people in my campaign say you have to believe rand paul of the amendments. not enough fourth amendment rallies and groups the you cannot have the second amendment if you did not believe in the first for the fourth. there is a growing movement within the republican caucus i have lunch with every day becoming libertarian. the term conservative was used up. the president doubled the debt with the republican congress. it was going wrong direction. the term conservative became less bellevue.

we still have the fights like the defense authorization act. we did not win but got close. dianne feinstein says citizens could not be held from the united states to guantanamo bay. she was going to withdraw the amendment. we said no. once it is introduced it is unanimous consent to call aback. we said no. we almost one that although they introduced the watered-down version but 45 people believe you should not send a u.s. citizen from here to guantanamo bay. the senate thinks they need

to get on action -- oxygen. [laughter] the vote comes upper i have been watching and it said if you are found innocent of being accused of terrorism terrorism, then you could still be sent indefinitely to guantanamo bay. even with the jury trial. they tried to convince me republican leader was mccain. they said they did not like it but let it go through. we will pull out in the conference committee. i said we have to have the boat. i asked for the voice vote. i was surprised. john mccain and carl

levin. 51 democrats voted no and eight to or nine republicans. he said it is the law. i said it is awful. you could be in the senate and kept in prison forever? we should have a recorded vote. out of the ron paul revolution new people are elected. a lot of people lobbying elected. one guy in northern kentucky could be the top five. seven way primary for the republican seat. he is close to the top. when young man is thomas massey. 21 years old put half a

million dollars into this super pac to support on this mess the. he went to the ron paul rallies in just got involved in a big way. that race is one week from today. then you have another libertarian appear. i think within the clock is there is change. the ron paul revolution has in effect in our caucus we debate some lamenting with the boots on the ground some of us far gung-ho to go to war without a vote or a declaration. when i introduced president 2007 he said no president should unilaterally go to war without congress.

i introduced his exact words. 10 boats. [laughter] not one democrat to saying that congress should have anything to do. they asked leon panetta. what if there was a war with iran or syria? vis if we do we will get permission from the united asians. they said no and he said we will consult with nato. and then said you would let congress know. but no action would occur first but congress was peripheral. that is our own fault. from being almost of no value for regulatory policy.

no one attempts to assert themselves. i think the ron paul revolution is helping us. to create value to popularize and i hope it becomes a best seller. [applause] >> thank you senator paul. both speakers have been concise. let's open the floor to questions. please wait to be called on. please give us your name and any affiliation. any questions?

>> with the american conservative the and your people on the left? everything you talk about is there. with the new party or the movement. >> i will give the individualist answer. i know the ron paul revolution has succeeded to win over many people on the left. there is no hard core of social science research. i can only say i met a bunch of them.

those that were consistently and radically anti-war to win them over with income redistribution issues. with the occupy wall street was going hot and heavy that crony capitalism to engage with them. and did one case i should not tell the story. of gross act of violation on the ron paul excrement gained left behind. to think of the wrong -- ron paul people but they tried to engage with a live

between actual free-market and what we have seen with t.a.r.p and has won over many individuals that it feels connected to the party will be tricky. >> what they said libertarians get together i came to because i read ayn rand. ron paul people say how did you get there? some say i came from the left door from the right.

the vast majority are from the right. but some of them are converted on the other issues but it gets back to if romney can hold those people this is the real individual list. midday audits the fed were reluctant hour has restrained its regard to war or the drawdown or the end of the afghan war which conservatives are in favor of. those who could vote for the republican nominee. >> it will be in the future

issue of resend the way he delivered his message is in a way that should be able to appeal to the progressive left as i will explain and later piece of writing. those with what i have to say right now, you are interested in the libertarian movement think of the question. >> it took 20 years for his efforts of my question this

law paul's the fact. >> not super quick not this bill around. if you follow and oklahoma and arizona mrs. very real and physical. i don't faintest is the year that will happen but i tend to think ron paul is correct about the fiscal crisis and foreign policy crisis. 1/2 to think some party pass to cover around or the alternative is to terrible to contemplate.

all the changing history and attitudes that with rick santorum issues that they are becoming less popular. for all the new candidates to this scene the republican party would the more ron paul down the line and it could have been pretty fast but is only beginning. >> my comment is it needs to be much quicker from cold water to reagan or now. we have a more of the crisis. when the banking crisis occurred, i say to + 2 did

not equal four but 1 million. i talk to people laid the your concerned of who are on steroids with the contagion spreading around the world. i worry about that but if we believe then limited government and people in place should that currency have been then the example i use is one trying to scare people but to out of that you get something bad. germany destroyed their currency. that is over the top. you worry what is coming out of destruction? to people choose a strong

leader? or are there enough people to still love liberty that we could come out of this with the freedom and a free-market? it is important to be a place in case something bad happens we've have to change direction not to go in the wrong direction. >> says the plan to commemorate the date loathsome that in chicago and anyway? >> not then know of. not his usual style.

do you have any opinion which victory would be better for the small incubating liberty? for any difference at all? talking to reporters i have of fresh and answer. i am pretty convinced obama will win reelection. since the republican party is the vehicle as the allowance for the convincing primary challenger to make real to the party to wayne

spidey and flores supremacy romney, paul, it strikes me that in my grand historical vision that they cannot deal with many more people like that romney. >> a good question to have no comment. [laughter] >> senator what is on your lapel? >> the tea party started to handle these out. it is only up any. you can get it for a dollar. it is not one red cent more. the government is taken our money and i would not give

them one red cent more. one used to be the kronor cut in half to use show the desire they could keep half of the money that they earn. [laughter] >> first time i met the senator is when i spilled oatmeal on him. [laughter] but the tours revolution but how you use the word of find it difficult to turn into traditional american values and how you apply that? >> obviously by a reporting

on the phenomenon that calls itself that. using that term and logo. the main answer is it calls itself that. i have not fought hard if a and i think out loud. it is apt with the root linguistic meeting meeting -- meaning it is an attempt. guided not talk about the constitution much but it is the notion he tries to turn us back to the notion of constitutional the birdie and limited government that they believe america starts with. they can argue how o two her

love should feel to the constitution but it would be a great improvement to return and to rollback and that involves the is the severe and radical change, i do think the term is apt. >> if you got to know the campaign, it is no different than another campaign revolution that the the best word but they said we can have a blip. stupid idea? they got a plan and did it anyway. people sublets why over the indianapolis 500 or

radiology resident put on top of the building to golan paul when you fly out of kennedy. davis say they can paid ad suck and make their own nine youtube -- youtube. a lot of creative stuff came out. it was a movement. they did what they wanted to do and it was interesting campaign. but it made it more interesting than the typical campaign. >> the tea party has been mentioned a couple of times. it seemed like that was the movement that had its origins in the 2008 campaign

with the senators run and deduct the but it seems has gone off a different direction. said it was very disturbing to me that from the got the vast majority of the tea party support. so i wonder from your work with is your perspective? >> i will quickly address the connection with the tea party movement. it is fair to say a partisan seriously shrinking

government that attaches itself to the movement, it started with ron paul. the problem with intellectual history is that people don't know if it. so most of the people that began coalescing in 2009 did not necessarily know that and acting out of the same impulse says the tea party came from. it is fair to argue ron paul did not have a lot to do with the modern tea party. with those people i have written this logically the tea party should have been in rumples pocket but people are not logical about their politics.

senator paul identified himself and away he might not address but i felt on of the trail there is not a lot of that identification in the ron paul world. those as labelled has been less of a story. >> the first tea party was december 16, 2007. i was there. others came around 2008. 2009 even. i was thinking about lending. i was at my sense game thinking to give a speech.

a few 20 i thought would be there but it was almost 700 but i always say i think what the tea party started started, people unhappy about obamacare and the bank bailout. the that was harkening back to rules. and they say the tea party is dead it is an amazing victory we have no one going questioning the constitutionality of laws to take obamacare all the way to the supreme court. nancy pelosi was incredulous there was any case. and you had conservative

justices to say activities not to commerce. that there would be no limit to what government can do. that to say by your thinking , and if you thought processes engaged in commerce might be a stretch. even the fact that we're having this discussion is amazing. the tea party was around the bank bailouts. is also about obamacare and the constitution, the tenth amendment and they did not have a firm opinion on policy. said they broke the same way. more restrained, less

interventionist that maybe 15 or 20%. when the tea party breaks up a lot are traditionally conservative they broke away from ron paul. >> i did find to my surprise on the trail how many republicans were not ron paul people but they like him. overwhelming he was not the candidate because there were thoughts that he was to out there and too much. one of the things that will come out to even if not winning committee established himself as not a

weird outlier the number two choice, with that sort of working it would do a lot to change the mind of the voter. just that it is not done. it will show when there are more precinct captains it would make ron paul acceptable it away because this strangeness that is dispersing. >> with the pakistan issue i met the congressmen by

chance i honestly felt is just a congressman. how can he be president. [laughter] how can he become president when he doesn't want involvement in countries like iraq? disease understand because of the involvement in the country's? his views are very honest but very simple. >> i willow channel hamblen of it.

ron paul all learned a lot of economics from hamlet just because you can see the job the government is creating new jobs will reflect what people want to come and not the making of editions $4 trillion buildings. it will reflect what people want to do with their wealth not the imperial power games that washington chooses to do. there are adjustments but it is a world richer in the end because poor people get what they want not what washington decides they should have. >> in the marketplace, with 300 million people can vote where they want to spend the

money but a select few and government. the jeffersonian idea is to minimize what they do because they take money away from the productive sector. we should acknowledge we only have the bear bit above of what we need -- bair biden of because if it is in your pocket that is the most productive sector. me send $600 million in checks to dead people. to people have to protect the country? yes. but it should be minimized because we've quote how to use it and reviews has effectively as the marketplace. the other argument come even if you believe government should create jobs from a we

spent more than $1 trillion we don't have each year. no savings or assets of what we sent overseas. we have bridges that need to be replaced we just build them as ours are falling down. alternately the argument is private sector is more productive so we should minimize. >> i know you are a comic neared talk about how he produces the next generation of libertarians. who was he bid by? [laughter] and seven rupaul growing up

with ron paul as your father was he a libertarian parent? was that good or bad? [laughter] >> i scoff at the stories that tried to route to his belief hard-working pennsylvania dutch background because a lot of people or grew up with backgrounds like at. if you ask the congressmen this question is the way we've read the right or wrong books like doctors chicago with the evils of communism understanding the dangers of inflation is

intellectual teaching me the emotional but i don't hate he can explain it other than he picked up the great literature. helping to make shirt others read the right literature as well. he was born with individualist blood. they had some money but not a lot. people watched everything they spent. even though they had planned from their worked hard. he was born with the independent mind. a lot of people are born that way. he discovered ayn rand and

others as he began reading them a giddy the internet -- intellectual arguments which came first? it is a combination of both from a lot of us. >> no curfew? [laughter] this gets to other issues that people have kgb traditional and conservative in your personalized but libertarian the way government should be involved? i think you can. some don't understand something else i think we live today traditional conservative family.

i did add of a curfew and i got in trouble a few times. [laughter] >> from the american enterprise institute what can that of the ron paul revolution is those with the importance of the fifth amendment perhaps the most courageous person in the 40 years since the movement got started uses environmental laws it has been rand paul with the legislation

introduced to stop the epa and army corps of engineers calling dry land as a wetland to prevent the use of the good gibson guitar company and could you comment on that? >> i am collecting these stories and a book and that was hoping they may be back when we have those to present it did appall me that i discovered we were forced to be regulated under foreign law is. you could be convicted from brazil, duran regulations and spend time in prison.

people of been put to the present by raising the of innovation of their own brand so lot of the crimes lear very interested and will go after them. >> we used to work together but he said the same thing. i was not as impressed as i should have been. epa. property rights. i heard it before. it was just us. not the u.s. senator. thank you for bringing that up.

"ron paul's revolution." thank you senator rand paul and brian doherty. there are books for sale every bookstore in america. please join us. [applause]

>> i am dr. the rain from the diversity market is at wichita university library. looking at the project record four kids is. sturdy and 1935 fdr signed papers to the jt's they would document the past and present history and every city with and this date

because it was changing the map forever but also because the editors and organizer is it wanted to aspire people because of our greatness and vision it was the presentation of national identity done on the local level. but those who had the essayist for several counties. weill wichita was one of the main offices there were several others. but this particularities was

a newspaper reporter doing whatever work he could do he could get a job for 18 for the project included not only would they came out but they had to adapt to hard times. people say the wheat crop did ruined we are aware of the difficulties the project wanted to capture and the

use the word like tramp and hobo and then is very forthcoming describing the saga that needs to become homeless, to lose the farm, and to hop on the train and working temporarily i thought what was the dividend but then say at the end some.

best and there supportive of labor unions but not failing to cast many votes. it is very candid. and quite a few democrats to reject our own native son. which was very well represented by this is significant because you get a sense of the project those

that are willing themselves. to go to those collections they saw themselves taming the land. they did not want to leave. of the states did this populations most people stayed and they find people willing to reach out.

so they can be self-reliant. talk about the past and present talk about the hard times. >> another collection and is a rare book collection but the manager of mccormick publishing company. many of their rare books deal with the images dealing with different parts of printing and calligraphy. also artifacts.

we do have older artifacts, this is significant as a buddhist prayer scroll. either ce common era although that is more inclusive. you'll see a series of charms that is flat and out this was made in a box just

like what i showed you earlier is an artifact some owe you know, to zero bid it. so it opens on the top this archival quality caught in. lift off the cotton the remove the school itself. said is the lead for part of the scroll the un why the

various layers said one of our busy day lectures with the pair -- prayer school school -- scroll he was amazed and enthralled not only that we had a year but we knew what it was in part of the collection and that was year for many decades to document the history of pentane and calligraphy.

to give a vice then sent to different temples it shows in this part of the world remember this is the eighth century. there are many parts of europe where people are your letter it. the islamic and jewish culture with the high rate of literacy and that others that are circulated but the

fact this paper is evidence of high-level cultural development. it is said interco part how they knew how six. >> and it was to acquire. this is nothing short of amazing. papers and manuscripts are some of the most powerful natalee do we get of window into other worlds but chart how they are different socially and politically and economically. sell how are we the same and how are we different which

is endlessly fascinating

factory output up from 99 it through 1919. up 4% every year. third 1929 factory production up 5.1% each year. 1929 through 1939 decreased slightly every single year. the industrial complex by 1939 has aged and is out of touch with cutting edge innovations and we're faced with the problem of the military complex and we don't have anything to compete.

with douglas macarthur testified before congress 1935 we talk about even to man wanted a thousand are may's with the american presence overse b