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is that the accurate to word to use? about manning and have attended his article xxxii hearg in fortea frhi w hv subfor who is probably well-known to a lot of people in this room as a blogger on the dissenter on firedoglake and has been to a of the manning petrial heangs d cnud m r tiedayth wthturi gig september. just so you know, booktv is filming this to be aired so please be aware of the cames and if and when you want toa es, ngt en an poupo isroesh l get the audio of you for booktv. tv is aired on c-span2. so with that i'm going to give it to chase and then we are going to hear from kevin and then we will,coe

>>nk e harris. thank you to be with such a great crew, a first-rate and truly necessary journalists kevin gozstola on the tv monitor do d heo aeh aa ma giving the already operatic story of bradley manning and the treatment it deserves and i'd i really look forward to seeing it. my name is chase madar and i'm an attorney and authorf the w book, the passion ofbraey in eoou r probably have some sense of who bradley manning is but we are going to tell you anyway. he is a 24-year-old u.sarmy private first class from the small town of crescent oklahoma and he is acuseofeig kisoeide u. military, the guy who supplied wikileaks with the afghan war logs and the iraq war logs, the

state department cables, the guantánamoiles and with most vi-leheicrlatelur igamera video that shows a u.s. apache gunship opening fire on crowd of mostly civilians in baghdad suburb in july of 2007. a enwteab admangot o lemoso his alleged leak. why would he do such a thing? people have rushed to attribute all kinds of psychological motives that he did this because he is, because he washng tsgnsn, us hn pp childhood. in fact his motive is much simpler in all of this in that is in plain sight. i'm going to tell you a little story about with im -- led him up to this ll la lemnisrki ilie rad

was sked with looking into the arrests by the iraqi federal non-violent protesters who had been handing out a pampht that looked into corrupti in the abthreof such non-violent protesters because the iraqauthorities had maintained their long-standing habi of torturing prisoners and detainees even after the u.s. va. manning brought his concerns up to thehain of command about what might happen to these non-violent protesters who had been detained by the iraqi aldlld jtotsri rongp more prisoners for the iraqi authorities in this brought about a change in heart, a change of mind of the young private, who had believed that operatn iraqi freedom had frm.thing to do with iraqi

aldl leaking things, and he is very plain about his motives on his message chat logs that have been published that ve been vrified with the y who bry inss he , want people to see the truth regardless of who they are, because without information you cannot make informed decisions as a public. manning also said he hoped the leaks would lead to quote des defrm w fto e what is so objectionable about this spirit and what is so objectionable about the alleged acts that were motivated by this. and i wrote a book about this. now i am not a reader or a itfrstksd of the things that attracted me to the subject was that there is

so much that is counterintuitive d surprising about it. coward -- counterintuitive and surprising even to a left of quy about three counterintuitive phenomenon that are part of wikileaks, the story of radley manning. now if you have read about the story at all, you have probably read reread or you have heard thatbraley nind kis iaets mngas treated like an eny combatant for his alleged deeds and that the discsures uncover war crimes were srk evidence of r m i think all of these three assertions are false and i'm going to tell you why very quickly. first, the assertion that private first class manning and wikileaks are onnest

iaesr l ths me ahas got a lot of play. "the new yorker" read a profile of julie on a size with the subtitle, the quest for total transparency and my tetus and ndithave anese igst ref l transparency, how this is crazy,how it's utopian, utopian in our political discourse as being a cinnamon for idiotic or moronic. arbdyng lere lns n some slippery slope to something like total transparency? is this really their goal and can they even come close to achieving a? i want to give you the lay of the land on crecy and transparency in this country and quonl er y in cif some 77 million documents a ear.

77 million documents a year. we might ask ourselves, are we even close to mething like tol trsparcyfee sig il den year? declassification moves at a geological pace in our country. it was only last year thth onecy cy ni tasin mefrheof12. that is a time lag of two centuries. so i have to ask, is it at all realistic or is it legit to frkoat spe op t tpay? alhi not. let me put it into further prospective. with bdley manning is alleged to have leaked the biggest leak in u.s. story, it is still sst1%athin

si eyr. amngre t. would bradley manning is alleged to have leaked is less than 1% of what washington classifies in any given year. so we are rellyawao taanenr ki efoo much transparency. for them or not a single document that manning is alleged to have leaked is ranked top secret and only 6% of them are classified as ecret. a great many of thleaks, ke the liervoa m an fthplic blweotssd any way whatsoever. now, i think it doesn't make a u.taaf kifbo sense to see the utopian idealistic act because much more accurate to label these as a very practical,

realistic problem-solving act as thstye not longer,y and our foreign policy has been a disaster in large part because of the extreme government secrecy that has choked off important public debate. when your country has launcd a olish andtrvewa usn ep rn scyston and lies as the iraq war certainly was, massive leaks in the absence of legal alternative are just simply a good efficient y to get the truth out. theawhl wl 100 aer civilians, over 4.5 million soldiers and has his costs u.s. treasury some $3.7 tllion. these are the wages of our current regimen of extreme goment cre. isasemt cm

noen adequately weighed by our pundits and their intellectuals. to get information out on this scale not utopian. it's not ev particularly ealiic avfur st ou wikileaks, their mission statement if anyone cares to read it is not a utopian manifesto. a close from our bill of rights and from supreme court decisions. there isnothing about any kind loretiy this hdha i n fottr for worse in their statement of purpose. i think the wikileaks crod are basically 18th century classical liberals who are hap with computers. really nothing to be aif besanenapole s not invented last year by julian assange and in fact it's an old part of the american

tradition. in fact it was james madison himself roaufy ventbuapog to a farce or tragedy or perhaps both. knowledge will forever evan and friends in the people who need to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives arstin i d james madison was not noam chomsky's teaching assistant. he was the fourth resident of the united states in the prime -- primary author of the u.s. constitution. now i know i' probably making anreinices les bu'sor to note that there is really nothing utopian or particularly high-minded about what bradley manning is alleged to have done. bry ins tedh rt aem mnti os tea of pretrial

detention and the first nine months which of which were in harsh and punitive can -- solitary confinement. i certainly agree tt this treatment has been abominable and 's been unjust andtk -tsoryfint hisroply viewed as a form of torture. in 1890 our supreme court came within a whisker of declaring solitary coninemtasrue unlpsh, h buopee kf reference points in this treatment. manning's father has compad such treatment to the prison in guantánamo and one libertarian accused the governme of kgb taics treing nnth y oaee. inrmeoe se t way soviet politicals were treated when they were put into psychiatric prisons in the 60's and seventies. any first-rate journals had written maing is being reated

like anemy combant a the otr ibg edaraiu. ti. e omuth to this, but i think all of the statements are missing something fundamental, something very big and what these people are missing is that manning's mag'eat nctso cio 0%marenthni states, where solitary confinement is not at all somethinwe use exclusively on exotic national security threats. it's something we use routinely he without contrersy. prer tmen0,0 in ste system who are in some form of long-term solitary confinement and even pretrial detention in solitary, it's not the norm, it's still something we do to prisoners often enough a usu wut n h at dl inh been an extreme and awful but we are kidding ourselves if we think it's some

exception or aberration in an otherwise pristine and unblemished criminal justice syst. tren mngs ns american values and the american way but in truth, the treatment of bradley manning has been all-american. i would even go as far to say in pr ighta aeu,ra ex ovey normal way of penal justice to these highly vible, exotic localities. a handful of american intellectuals have made the same point tat the war on terrors largely an extsion rnb enan tonft r c atharndr wa m it the only legal black hole that we have created. most of the intellectuals making this point, not surprisingly, our black americans. former "new york times"

mnmaetbend rebaane llwe teck agenda report. it's not much of a surprise as you probably know black america has an incarceration rate higher than that of the soviet union at the height of the gulags of this ballaygtanacrin dhtrmeobrey manning are unique aberrations, that really does not wash with these writers and i think they are right. last, you often read and i've even read it myself, that bradley manning is uncovering evidence of rrs. msontvese ouk he llal murder, the helicopter gun shop video. it's really a gruesome sight. the gunsight view of an apache helicopter a mile and a half u in the air a you see wat grofnecg le stivnst w em were armed, and some of the

civilians included a couple of writers news agency employees. the helicopter shoots a lot of -- and wenukva itatyatho to pieces too, killing the driver and wounding some young children who were inside that van. so it's a massacre and a slaughter. w can it not be a war crime? well it turnsutth aw wreexy w ghkethth are. there is international law on both sides of this massacre and st of it turns out to be, i'm sorry to say, in the side of thwsarcoctegn w si of soldiers who opened fire on civilians. that is just n my opinion alone. it's essential to note that after this video came out, it is mareouen t say,attfiel

of the three human rights groups responded with silence. and as the international said this and neither did human rights watch and neither did human rights fir even though their businesses calling t coctthwsar now what gives? i talk to employees of all three of these organizations and they told me, couple of them sounded sowhat embarrassed that the reason they responded with silence was becausei untsorec a liaskne stay with me here. i don't mean this as a justification of the massacre or as an excuse for it, but i think it's essential to note that the wrn a c oaed conict were n ou eyeritten by the attorneys of great military powers. many intellectuals, particularly liberals, have this bizarre

stake in international law in general and the laws loss laws of war in particular. i ink 's te wel s ouai h hthtri that war is amenable to regulation by law and can be turned into surgical instrument of humanitarian -- most if nt l hee,silsd encivilians get killed and more we like to think it wasn't actually the war that killed them but it was war crimes were some deviation from the way war is supposed to be fought. that is not reallythe case. the slaughteof civians,s se-plausible military rationale that could be attached to it, however weak it is, most of the time is perfectly legal that wasn as portant y atil suha thyo

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alright. so thank you. thfmnda eototicite i erl presentation to set up what i'm going to explain now. i've been covering the proceedings since the case began back inebehee e esalc whole -- a ofile i've been tracking it. a lot of people said to the court-martial is yet to start so i want to clear up quickly that the trial is part of the -- feryheily ererred ard manning. that was when the court-martial process began. so i want to tk a little bit about it. for some ashre oe ey rinoee hia

of i can share about how i've been covering the proceedings because if i go there, i show up and show up to a media center and i sit in the ceter. hohapg urm in t urm can see bradley manning, brady manning's lawyer and i see the judgea iw ew pe aewhav y enid the courtroom as a reporter? it would be good to be in the courtroom. i want to share with you right now, the penchant for secrecy baatartld overnment has is so as ourd we are not allowed to access the prosecution motion and that makes the job that i'm doing as a reporter, that make my jobs somebody working to employ he

soin trm,h have one chance to put that information down pending get it to you. shess usey't the jge want to see the documents. she reads all these documents very quickly and i hav to scramble to be able to keep up, ipogthewriikisinformation down erybody else in the room. so the thing of it is, is that in the cases of the 9/11 -- you the public and people in the press can actually go lin d cae hne atad yu nahe scs inhecases of bradley manning, he doesn't even have that right.

he doesn't have that right to transparency and that complicates what i'm trying to do. so at this moment i have not been in thecourtroom. topltht ieetcl e ec t we have in the government responding to you with this case. it now charges against bradley manning break down into three sets. you sentially have a number of charges, i think the wer abt chst enre dedi r cof military. apparently our military thinks if you expose what they are actually doing, that it offends their derum in the military, soha is -- at iwh y thavsorg with unauthorized downloading so this has to do with the sophomore thate is accused of using to do theallegedly to transfer the documents to wikileaks.

inore depth which is the aiding the enemy charge which is a corporal offense and i comes with a death penalty, the possibility of charging him with the death penay. wiotace hyright wn t lt to him. they won't sentence him to detain the government at their word. solet me just get into it now. several key sues thath enthpcegs soht wve issue of the withholding of evidence. there are 250,000 documents that pertain to th governme has in his possession, hath n'enedwhth e siotn t defense. we have been diligently working

at least since before the pretrial hearing in december, the article xxxii hearing that was ld. reederasisry een rules, and they have been able to get very little. he has got a few pages. he has recently talk about having some documents that come fromhbatcll daaeor he believes that of course that information is being improperly censored. and so one of the things that they have struggled with is getting tseructhe e . 'simrtfohde t understand that these assessment reports are reports that a written by people who are known as original classification authorities. they are the ones who are tasked to make e determinations about e inrmatawhef

asthwod actually risk national security. in the aftermath of an event like this they can make the core determination about whether there is in fact any harm that was done by wikileaks. thisinfmati s t bry inseauf course anyone who follows the news, knew that people in the pentagon and the u.s. gornment and even pundits were going on about the sort of damage and inedpewwere ine bing ip t on u.s. operations overseas. everyone was thinking that this was going to do some kind of damage to national security so to not have to be a part of the thfehasw ts i a veryer know what magic language we have to use to get you to turn these documents over because anyone who is familiar with requests,

toe th information. so he has basically had to make up a language, makeup descriptions of terms for papers and documents just so that he can be sure that e turean iovytt rn c pblve he possession that could help manning as a client in this case because they are hiding assessment reports. they are hiding investigative files. their claim is that if they are thatesld gt.h anestiti she eoonth inigns tis a trick, bause technically speaking the government's position is that there could be harm to these leaks and 15 or 20 th cleohito thhey well, that had to

do because bradley manning released that. so we have secrecy in the preceding. the sections of the court-martiaprocess ehe dee o r bend sndrs deliberating over business that should be handd in opn court and they call this a conferencing session. it happens with thefederal courts but usually it's only limited fosclingnd gsoid- int chambers, putting together things that but we can talk about and they put together something called a pre-publicity order. thisas about what inormation we are going to sh pubcl ou ald iahae lee say and what should be secret. i didn't get to hear anything about what was deliberated when they were putting this together. the othething i want to raise is that they are overcharging manning.

woto get dismiss charges. he pointed out that if you see the charges, they are taking his alleged act and they are separating differences and the echrgthak hiin that other documents might have been pulled from the secret intelligence network or the secret network that he got the inrmation from -- he might've pulled it at the sameime. he lledt hem , miryseti aoiule charges. while the aiding the enemy is at potential life in prison, if by some chance i were to be dropped, you now have 20r her aranch te yeotalof 1 so it becomes critical as to whether they are oveharging

manning because this would determine the sort of -- that you would actuay be iside of thisnddeinow youe d he ofrsrtse, t that he was convicted, this is critical as to the charges that stick. now finally, i would like to and hear just talking about t-- thacimoucge wius read it for you. i have the text before mand i think it's important for you to hear what this charges. the charge is, any person who enwias,muonemptsoaihe rp m o hethgs, or two without proper authority knowing he harbors or protects or communicates or corresponds th or holds eese

tem heiry ndtl d aythern a suffer deathr such other punishment, carb -- o court-martial or -- and ce onof the i ch ith wy at it is interpreted. this seems to be rt of the obama's whistleblower. it grants the military the power th unit, not troop operations for talking about things that they might want to share with the press if they were to have ises. li fxa l sf fon operations and someone had to blow the whistle on that, with the subject them to aiding

the enemy charges because they decided to share this information? with that in fact be considered intelligence e yat ch. usthis point, they have not demonstrated contempt and in fact the government says you did not have to demonstrate evil intentn order to charge manng with aiding thenem aty is adni ewkil regularly asked the wikileaks web site and ving that knowledge, in which they have to demonstte in order to charge him, but having that knowledge means aided then du tea in december, the government showed a powerpoint presentation, and in that powerpoint presentation, t inatsety doturityreda

put video on facebook in terms of the government intended to violate classifiednformation d sor o ke ent estion and in this presentation, he made a statement that the enemy could go to get intelligence ou wa kis.pth ee i t iis the limit to whathe government has to present but if this is, this is what they are going off of. they're going off of thefa inig -pesnas owe weaas g b the enemy and al qaeda was in fact -- and they played propaganda

during the hearing in december. cotihaeyidtdtoae ersithebe appreciate his leaks, his alleged leaks because of what they want to do. and i don't know because to this day there's not a single attack over anysort ofoerath thouavemmed from reading this previously classified information. so finally, i just want to say that supporters of bradley i k a enoine d a lot of -- e t-rtial process because many of them believe it's a done dea, the bradley manning is in fact going to be convicted, sentenced and many of them have used language like, he is going to aul dat i nt caution people who

might get cynical, who might believe that th government has him and there is nothing people can do, that i thik that is exactly what the governnt wants people to do. i think it'sctght e. inesisaey ntoomcahioc they want to make it difficult for people to follow. they want people to get tangled in the legal cobwebs and not know what xacy isbei ne than el nd not sure of what's exactly going on and whether it's ght or wrong. it'sp to people like me, the journalists and repo to yoatxy s inn.o you and how to ars thopho dendt is happening to put this into some kind of a forum that people can really get into and begin to understand

what is going on because the government is not aty bl- e rn aa to -- you to believe it's a dne deal and he will be prosecuted. remember, he would not be transferrefromguantánamo causof iumantat eaor ththro some, people actually raising their voice whether it is out in public or whether it's even in cyberspace actually will make some kind of difference even confronting barack m [inaudible] if any part of you has come concern about this case you or to youelf to say something in the o2 bradley manning tosay something because he has body. hein cocoon, and he needs

people. people should speakup. it could have an impact. [ausenthdl make the difference >> hi. thecororinto bill nd eian . shg stwias kevin. we are doing the hard, important necessary work that makes our forum dilettanteish and rarifd dyk, s. >>m he be way. matt, i am ted hearn. i am a composer. >> i am mark doten.

we are goingto play ast ng yndtaa tl abthace d r ri attending the first of bradley manning's article xxxii hearing and then we will play just a snippet from a second song. be st itwat saeiemngt you are absolutely right, i totally agree that the quest for transparency and demanding transparency is not the same. it n ral at' t at . d rf what inspired us to write a piece abou bradley manning is to connect him to howl normal that really is and especially since we are all so nnd oi oth an e changes in the technology have put everything at our fingertips.

what bradley manning did is so not radical and part of whwe brth up, to connect to us as americans. to what is all-american in a way and it really is. and that is y it in he is an so gtlwhg figureo we wng piece about manning and about wikileaks and i would call it an opera because when i think about bght think of operatic singers and i think of an opera house nd is fily acet d h ul ss au it's not broadway either and i wouldn't even say it was telling his story through traditional rrative at all. so we are not really sure what it is exactly. we were gog to use only tohaclxiaranw t

w manning's presence and by the way kevin was the actual journalists. the closer you can get into the actual program, so i was thee,. ud] i dgeseng theach tay ouab him. e thene have decided that maybe mark is a brilliant writer and until then he was compiling texts and reading through so many of the rlocks in the d chog s er pet ar text source used. text that inspired us having seen manning and dealing with him in the r hest yreng aswhe al stage this elaborate video stuff going on that would capture

twitter runs and very as you know media sources of all different types. thats try ahi limr.all it has texts by adrian lemieux, who is the hack and i'm sure a lot of you are familiar with, who outed bradley manning aft anennehim into thed more government. i was going to try to hold these up but i don't also be legible on tv or the background. so th lyrics are, y i w i's eb,g. scared and in shackles. i've been there and i hope none of you have to make a choice like this. i didn't get manning arrested. he got himself arrested.

n, ubr nnas an alleged leaker out of duty. i would never, and have never, out in ordinary decent criminal. there's a difference. >> by the way thers remennanfo he had the chat line. it was a link to a picture of his laptop with his litle reovhe.s lthdad slogan. he put it next to the laptop and this was something that was -- and i think we e going to open with thisecusatwld t ieano in t center of the struggle for freedom of information. part of that is really bringing

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finals are going on you hear some clip from that. i took the little clip and that is where you hear him say i want to know why e unerseets p ynd sort of the mindset you are and when you are reading the tweets are experiencing information because there is so much and it's flat in a way so that is where that comes om doknf e or wc just go on. >> yeah, i think you know ted was talking about how we are trying to capture rt of e way we erehedid wonod hk e is a quote from david where he is talking about the writing and really wanted to capture what he said, the way that you know, fe-- in this tearf

thas t our starting point, to do all those collaging of primary source text and try to capture the nse commicatnsw.ur global enale fra r e first day of the article xxxii hearing last december, i thought that experienced -- we both found it very interesting and surprising and i think one of the is poul ti k as chase -- as chase talked about, like a lot of the media portrayal is -- of manninat th he s ercndnd d bve eetiy d a number of situaons. striking a superior officeand

so on, but the person i had frlltherins see at fortmde pewhoube w, st and at the breaking point, was not who i saw. i remember you were there as well. dand bteednning seemed ontha fe like, what his state has seemed like since then but he was extraordinarily composed and i want to say and i'm probably projecting a little bit, he seemalstep d k,ened without -- i don't know, there'a kind of just very accepting energy about him that made me eel likets arr thdi ha

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chat books? >> i have nothing to add. i would not worry although they have not been educated but there somehow hurting his chances of freedom. it is how you use them if you are a fair minded person >> one of the things i admire the most how the deploys the terms allege did and and verified. anybody who discusses bradley manning it gets used to that. >> hi o incommunicado is

bradley manning? how much information and then see get to from the outside world and if he is convicted, what is the next step? what about court martial and appeals? is there something afterwards? >> >> you do the first one. u.s. asking if he is held in incommunicado it sounds like better conditions from months ago some people say he is inhumane the treated by have no proof they he is

not being abused so we should be happy. what they conceal how they handle prisoners. his lawyer has not raised issues so we will assume he is treated fairly. the second question, the case as the possibility to be appealed to the supreme court at some point*. maybe chase has something to add. >> the court martial and how that may defer from a federal court system, people expressed concern since it is the military court it could not be fair but it

would be more fair and a civilian court. not necessarily. we have seen draconian sentences if related to national security. holy land foundation. a student at brooklyn college busted for supporting terrorist because he was storing socks and raincoats in his apartment on his way to the al qaeda training facility. the kid said yes and got 20 years. military jury maybe more

serious with a being the enemy charges and maybe more likely to dismiss. there has been undue command influence when obama declared bradley manning guilty. he should not have said that. i don't think that is a big impact on how the jury deliberates. >> so many things about the trial that are a outrages with the charges and abuse of technology. i commend you to use your creativity because he is floating under the radar -- radar although people tried to draw attention to the trial but

what i don't understand they turn this into a side show and president obama dismissed the guy who's said how he is being treated is point* less. but his attorneys do not draw attention both wars are completely legal. according to the army field manual somebody in service has the right and responsibility to expose illegal orders. he has not only been put in a position with this intelligence that deals with blatant illegal actions but

the fact he has brought this to the public light is his duty as a soldier. why isn't he given defense not acting only legally and responsibly but they make it seem like he is defective. i don't understand. it goes on and on but it seems the powers that the whenever but it would be worth everybody's while to bring attention to the material although marketers in the case the material needs to be brought to the forefront pakistan had a

flood instead of brainman supplies, i am totally baffled. i am glad you are doing something to bring attention. thank you. >> it seems i haq responsibility why the defense has taken a strategy and what has happened. the defense has not had the opportunity to make its case. in december was article xxxii hearing. the basically plus the

responsibility on the government to prove has evidence for each of the charges. there were 22 and december the prosecution provided all the evidence and they succeeded but there was the opportunity for the defense to call witnesses. they were supposed to do discovery to help defend bradley manning and the future court-martial process. the presiding investigative officer decided the majority of witnesses requested, 20 or 30 on the list, he

decided it would take too many resources they could not even the brought to testify but two of them were stationed there. but the government does not want them to testify and using maneuvering from the defense to make a case. all made two defense witnesses came and made a case. now there is an argument to be made this is okay because the whole entire responsibility was on the prosecution so now that may

be to the defense benefit on how pay was mistreated and things of that nature with get dain turgid is dismissed. the defense has done a lot to argue on behalf of bradley manning. i recognize supporters have been issued not being a showman that he is not admitting brad the manning in the clothes saying argument as the go straight

away and he basically gave a summary here is a man with a strong moral compass in his survey twenties and your president says yes we can you believe that and talk about transparency being a hallmark of the democracy and said history would be the judge and read them martin the 13 junior quote. breaking a law his conscience tells them is unjust