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there is a lovely little feel o e terref y sts is. ften we all love reading presidential biographies. ths g rnbert. n ras. aun o d e treedson and curl up with. one of the things we wanted to do is pull the two men toether and look atrelationships because relationships or whatever thatirng o h dce wngthbran hech ahews neee res adales long before reagan was president and long after ike was. so much so that in 195 6 ldonren s gig caan ecofalnnfo prennc wle,
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nh aet t pennsylvania is watching it. never met him. he's reading evething h can, hees tmon tevisire d ecy nswtttoe rn' ieto help him cope with the charge from which it most days is that reagan was too much of an extremist who reprent mimaetnnglican party they are like, for example there was a charge that he had been o close to the john birch society in the early 1960s, eiow oake cg u. a ndeosked this questi in reagan should answer it this way. he goes through several letters and is doing it while nion is
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notin. to seek the gop as ies pec 676 agan is contesting for the gop nomination against richard nixon used to be the vice presin >> haur boo so yhahelofg, li s untat betr. >> this is the bohemian grove. >> this is the club pcc. bee ththmaus reons acngng reaynedo politics. >> we ere stumped by that. his tebia g n rid n heftld etbeooat grove
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that summer nixon was giving the big speech there abut hoover. but hal wanted to d reniacly eka nmio 'sin tnt h primaries and pick up delates. he's got the right wing of the republican completely worn overpeer pepleewia f ckseheeeei ocstutr 19 ag wixwh ght d st h k suddenly having to contend with the newcomer from california, who he had met just to go back coss.47 when he was a young 'vowche og bu t trel po . as we found throughout the story, these men would be friend, sometimes rivals long before either them reached anistval fce
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e ou rblan me ght ter nixon had started made his comeback after watergate, reagan as president and tere is rat twth tw th. ane otwllt d olol sto nixon, as is giving him advice before you thieves, i'm yrs to command. and wenck bes kio dvice that could point and how to conduct your first year, he would say, i'm fiurs to command,jss cn pars, itag a xo a found that
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presidents are the same par often have the more complicated time getting along witeach her than presidents of differentpie sei idy reon f oushe something of a rocky start. the 2008 campaign was bound to be a little hard on them. but the thing thatgot to of wreert ay washec am nvkiam o idal greatness vision, it was not the last democrat to manage to win two erms in the white hoe. exe athtss e hat cl so thcoy. it was in a vision obama agreed with, but what is captivated by what hehonored with the fact ta theountase erhe wted to ine tronth
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d ouths isy ul tiv llnt ob akau the clinton presidency and comparison implicitly to break and haven't been small in poultry in a missed opportuty and about small thngd ,hute m grstantu a amsadpph clton sectarystate, he basically makes bill clinton signed a prenu but all isthe what mony he is whhesoooeed m ee iatca seligeaog with that. he says it's hillary's turn now and i'll do whateverhey need me to do. it takes a lot for the two men to find thein aa thk eoh gsourhaaen nd s hppento ny prs i pdebaaseen offior a while, he realizes doing great big things is not
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easy. doing anything is not easy. suddenly the deals and mproses and maneuvers in ingshey ises a mondane.n d no we see in the newest obama caaign video directed by an oscar-winning air and atythnsst arfoim1 teil nton. >>ust before republican primary, one of different people run for president talked about this earlier todays d t w df meest.seg utdot th00aiot demoat sidwas argt about ronald reagan, and whic, as nancy was hnting come obama reesthli e s. sthihio en draa
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cls ontindse e mewho er the office of huge scars, big welts, drear ifftomry succesul. ras heb r ah om ri wyo ethui we aurn uddenly cried and things they wish they could do over. evenhe ones that turn out ths moicfo19 ih isjo.knedfr ip aer ie grandson of course. i give this to her that her, this is how manyy as t o. ra ehos ng edod bin kennedy came into the odysey we organize the white house around his old ways they can deciions.
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he sat eisenhow's very miryiera wotng ok anapalsiy pihed ba wog el. seer ennedy meet and beiniu atoushn w. edulard ge wyhdi siakanulco che he that ike, interestingly enough before they appear before the cameras and kennedy need this iu vea eho d an ohhe ne ar senhower didn't criticize kennedy and public. in fact, the flowing week old congressionaldgn deapge gebu s io. th hs at heennedy
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administration on eisenhower person back and said there should be witchhunt. is iportant that w pr si, ci i repo, ci i arasess be >>ch vey chk happened two or three weeks ago. i just have to bring this p. after george w. bush left offic the club has its protocols and tradnsre wt of thrriddees il, h cic g o. virentcn ttt approach. [laughter] but when he finally broke cover ge ucveti weeks g n n x en pcter enr hbt coy ldticizeour president said that the public role of suppoing the current ecnin
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>>d tsis ang ag e lhoh about whether eisenher counts as a tean, and two men who had worked closely with eisenhower's presidenand johnson as majorityedr. l,e bl arumo. asinn,nss he ne yoron time. i need you more than evr now. the next morning eisenhower kicked in his car and tries to he es edyboy lyhe se le a. ond it's got a joint session of congress and here is that you need to say because the world is tching. the country is traumatized. one wonders what is going to hiasev yeeo thpotoh ug nnsda.
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key'enda was stalled in congressor not going anywhere. eisenhower ufficing him to ush it through. thiss not becau eiseower s ed ga. iss ciew evt mt t tredases o ilan continuity. throughout johnson's presidency, eisenhower placs extraordinary off camwlre n l, san mup neo jhson' ose ? fo to think up an emergency, so, but some other reason why you need be here, but i need to talk to you to the point that there are meetings and the white hoe abt vietnam atesorr soieatnd nh rheti sk e. nentnsaiu' the best chief of staff of od. >> ireally amazing. that rationship is
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reg. hnatal ht i y y r met him, attended a reception, just that he could have physical evidence of a relationsp demand who then was the maer. iomha oll guo ferf th sadat, 1981 on a version of the thgydnikche in the otheroo . e't t of love lost between either of them. you can understand why. but on the way back, nixon goes nallnatnnoaoennns ne, hate is gone and kissinger
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is gone. it's a weird play mode. theaeeet beome ids aneyh t ne eylie r ot ath both realize that theyere ssedut ooffice a little before they woulde liked. i think they looked around and saw nin in a reagana idaneyht, t trr thha a prt e et e fod and carter across party do 24 or 25 different projects on budget -- on deficits, arms thic ua, middle ea oic 15este seao giheog tthe others depending who diedfirst. which is really a measure of friendship. ismytedsyis pat 0,e
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er n et i ea nu thug ver heavy in 1976. the club is like any fraternity, but e bonds are really special. two i taketioe imoike e wclntkes office after the 192 election, something happens that only happened once before in american evtiy, which wappoi t erafiv nde bu oor t rrde nixon. he's practically sitting outside the white house jumping up-and-down fame listen to me, wag to t oe eteverohe thliid.pse e' words. then he writes a somewhat
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tougher opd in privily sends a signal either you take my calls eesluwn pren tniss. >> finally quit and cll s and realizes that some of his predecessors tohae that permission is incredib shrewd he oraenli este wwain hemeo, a,t toay mee- phone buddies, isn't just to talk about foreign policy. he wants to talk about how o orgaze his dayowto ths angt n ofur trentim is the most scarce and precious than he has. he wantedo know if he was using up well. and the first month of the sa0 yersersaotolbceled
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still an impossible challenge. >> when we interviewed clinton abouthis, he said onof his most prized possessionof beng est rix nidin a 94 n jugoous ch.ugohu he had gone and there remain a se mons. at efterpk splte aggl tasked clinton if we could have been in to receive anything now, but he said that he told it was done in ways hed aazle. rdedt. heda eead it every year. cln hiehseannod in199and he
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edathmusd s eresiminth we ed his mother, similar, not the same. i often find myself i could pick up the phone and call him and itranar avi bu tha o ?a that politics is complicated, family is really complicated. and yet, theonly tingme prenorerwle sh o onel est haauall eda fer h surrogate father for that one inib ndhi. what we found really pa cgeeio ewen idcln the ti shil toiha
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ey ha naor him. they call him their brother from another mother. >> we get asked about thisa whhe m flyti fa aon f e si ie rl thtu ohm can't speak. this is later in the date obviously, but it's quite an emotnal moment. a lot of people asked as, say how much didbso io , ul eig h s weysayad reporting bears this out as much as maybe people wish were that it not true, thatn some ways thi time was the comforter tot tiortepntiws yor wh ol al the father didn't say, turn off the television. you got to stop watching uff
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olmas rn halo of advisers, that he really only had one data so that would be the role he wld play, which is probably the truth most thouldmk aysiisrs, re se yhi oui. ths o all code by. i don't know what the opposite of come by this, butwe have a lot of this in the book and this is one of theert. o n,seathi patfotnan oultenr truman, two men, architectand the way of the postwar world works very closely and effectively together as they are trying to figure out america's ros vi e peenstniroin peadelng reluctant
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american public and congress on the idea of nato. truman understood to tae ido ater stare tt is parsoetyect s diy owthr n 1948 truman even says to eisenhower, and now, if you are inking about running, i would get out of the way. i'll b a vice presidentf yo . outhyanfst t in 1952 eisenhower runs for president he comes apart and it comes apart badly and it comes apart mainly with the fact that sherman concluded thatisenas lio an n hle t emeles is mchyalen an serious about this. he called eienhower and moral coward and started campaigning across the country ce the same eisenhower was uit f
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cend anowhod o an tca dot rv best he ed tts. therefore no surprise on a migration day he was still refusing to come to the white house to pick a truman to go to the inauguration. th bary spe at tn s f b heteset e lash. again, it's never that simple and the two men to find themselves again together, namely at funerals, particularly shaimneklnr f13en he prennnaneyrt talking about their own burial plan. in that shadow of their mortality, small things fall aw. biinomck daand that the at blair house
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talking and reconciling. and so a friendship that turns reilonaueud turns back into the tilyt bha whte odest fi than >>t y a apy ending. this one not so much. we have to tell this. >> i don't know there's ever be to politicalobs anlno nar nn b thing, you remember the 1968 election johnson had decided not to run for another term. thsh bmed ted was to regain his rid n ouhas reasons for wory and that if there were breakthrough in vietnam that he did not stand a elon good chane of landht tlfolen in ,jhsodsora
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talyotgihpee us this treason. what does he do about it? asin,rnth n ssed 'vendti inktfoh'szn. calculation was what it was due to the country to hav an outgoing president accused a major at cat o bongceetia e datm. it was an extraordinary moment confrontation ultimately johnson decided not to chllenge nixon about it. the election nember was ry, fo er lteou nrnd vehpyns this johnsonuring the transition to shut nixon was a
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tape recorders were in the white house. it was one of the reasons why nin go hhe, pa nt ch d tanit rie rsr ek eawaed to keep johnson intends. >> decreed a special fort in and in january of 1973, nixon's man called johnson and say, you know, you might want to call urenn ste stl tbfo e rgvsti ou ynoewi vehet y were illegally surveilling, eavesdropping on us in 1968, to which johnson said,wl,ou tan wsat neen all tag ba n1
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[laughter] the extraordinary moment of mutual blackmail. how is it just a novel of? about two weeks lat nixon is twysert,do hndif ar tk. th perilous moment in the american presidency there was no cloud. harry truman had dd at christmas. niis onin january yoedw aougge rbwa bis feeling. not every presint gets along with members of the other party. jimmy carter has been challengd ca'sur brt y heso had another challenge. he left office at the age of 56 or 57. september jimmy carter becomes
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preninso.st of the nex susier hr'24ys co atno ebu t bear. carter has worked very hd at his second career and really vented the dern post-presiy. en ht ofic w esfor halgfe igb adt sbo ss g it status. you know, he has done huge amounts ofhings at home and overseas in the last 31 years. he won theobelrizet so ha wa - a rits rno et , hifrisn some kind and he is normally delivered the goods, but he is a tendency to go off script. this is a classic oeh in0500 ns w mt lyopy
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mao ci rights leader. carter uses it as a chance to gently criticize the other man's son who has been resident. i mleory a yoowerubdsbl sheep. last night because everyone else in the club something to unite around clinton would also send caer vr. whe itrs nde goto toua. he said this to george stephanopoulos. you think you'll be okay, don't you? the last thingou want talk about here is how the club works cr.snc si thanhersi. aeczeolitics today, which don't work very well, the one thing that has to work on the web and it always has to be functioning a powerl
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moil teht lfer pic re aside. and joined together, make common cause around some larger purpose. we see thedoe n br, onrthldri d ofebr inat became known as the mission. this is a guy whoever understands will dismantle the thumne himedeal superstrucre e- iaredent needs the tools should be able to meet a crisis and especially in the thtoise potlear aehi eradtsovo riti xces that would
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empower the presidents and is essentially the great gift they gave to other presidents who followed to organize and rationizthe executive brch anaway pdentwobe tnct. e atov nged pdein mehas piy craden. in the course of gathering information, whoery found of so much was wrong and wasteful in government that if het 19s loi ey ma rtet hm teidi amazing he didn't leak an of this beauty kept to himse because his thherncseasaso make u nged trent tie ssty an eisenhower, advisor to nixon not to challenge the results. diloseer s
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aqtityr mis ache seer hotay nixon, it woul not be good for the country. stand down. >> we see overseas. >> we need a much smoother peacul tnsition of power theaoe t toe png battle. tie for a fact we hn' ke utop fd mh aynu ooi o ng opec te escythhird ion for which he realized his presidency simply could not begin until the matter was taken off the tabl. later he would come rescue bill ag lngine enimpeachment ss hoalo togt con itha ieadwr towards impeachment and in the end he
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couldn't convince clinton of that, but he worked really hard to try to make that pn. cey .ouetin pe o' ifey m fi in 1883 when president rean invited all the governors at the white house and so both billnd hillary clinton -- there's a picture of hi -ami gh e o ie lsic it pltoke akot that. that picture -- this is the other picture, the only time in the time life archives. it a gato. wuly toebe19 con h sttipeinon tour as a courtesy call on ronald reagan that has briefnd pren w trentns tev quond odvice
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or may? president reagan says the fit thing is you've got to to camp david. he g to get out of that building. it igood for the soul to get add conn'ta ly ahreal a yoedget he house. the other thing president reagan have been watching president clinton during the campaign and found his salutes a little wimpier as john s tokind wh n s rs te d aayd many roles of military opposition. asrn howoon as i understand i brlg lnicer ety . it reminded me that he was eisenhower who taught kennedy had a pricey couple buttomake
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annn jononto oy by licopte tas eett ons haa hseaup hi sleeve about that. and it's not just in matters of policy that the men who are commanders in chief pass on tips. thiswas one way former leshott lynd fis,pia ones. clinton would learn not and h would come to salute every time he got off the helicopter, just psident reagahane ulssfur gebuentru toherentnt bua ion ge he said to him, you didn't used to be such a great speaker because clinton and given a ansdo yha ach onetime that ipouw ivgo
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prenubct o vel is both high and sententious very practil. >> alternately what struck u as the maf thles daladoerte thakhebmsrai isti that theffice itse is more important than the individul. car inhiag appeared on h n,tul o mira g wo he inry9,est snee reb mbipmehe new guy. and he said a that time to president obama, look, we'll wants you ucas sce nffnhe andste individual. i think what michael and i took away from this research was seen the edenoundmen fiercely
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thll hedho stwiemr heye de,s agendas themselves picking it over and over again theyset su ithinstideand move past ererth rouht emettotad mpntesrt do this mom is still highly important work of just helping each other because it's a very hardjob. 's nurbhean thl gh mca chthlito t tdoi, there's something that comes up again and again were jefferson called is wosi y, ut fe tgrtteelat evhes dol j
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successfully can be wounded by it and their burdens from having done it ad there's very few peoplehey contacyou abt onth t p otchltball ahge. cae. i hartnd i want to do a hard time. we think it is the model may be that many of us antk thinhar nt oeati haouy . e y akur questions. [applaus >> nancy and michael have been gracious enoh to allow a few minutes at the end for questions. i'll ask is if you have a question t rai youan e lee oe w
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crne itil ihoks riov.wst >> is this a situation with the first lady, like the pridt? s nttiowot eohaveeeri ou seens that first ladies are especially where if you are trying to raise children in the white house. this seems to be mainly cold this ohnnlsnd ca acsecito boheam i totofi's ndl,richlenge in any event trying to do in the bright, white lights at the white house would be especially abrag drn g li jond hat there's a reason why first family still criticize each
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other. it's notthere were such nderpe. ndanw icit ths nshtarh he library of 61st lades together and certainly i think there is a bond between them because theyoo we hang a ue ie. ngd ,e miiafruc o e rsdecu sueo presidents. i suspect it will not be long before it is no longer an all-male club. but for the time being, we haven't seen any qalt id trent hs hees hr >> ever saw the photographs of the 15, 16 shaken the han of itnlr sd.kennedy vn gh henydel
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inwoven ll udar ht time. but are there any photographs? >> with clinton because i ictoi, that he hadacce a edtufolnon than that had to be 40 years -- >> the story's grave. exencuata et reviewed obert orit ub uor ho twa good. in 1972, clinton is passedby george mcgovern to then texas cagi nf ratn,hich as lost stse dema, t r
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ention before they realize eagleton might not be the best vice presidential candidate. bill clinton, cochairman of texans for cgvernadtyo clniekd o ho a cn ice of them accompanies mcgovern in eagleton to the ranch to see johnson heard intosects nd meg,ch no , h w in ireor to l that is as close as clinton got to meeting all bjp but is great about the american presidey anwelrmr,evn 'sotdengyt fpeid.
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re rbeh a d tacaaiomre ow i think it was des moines. i'm pulling that, but it wouldn't count on it. everyone hasheir circu ti tht lnve m j. ol h htasll estsofir kit orll is that they all hoped for. right over her pren lbis erication of the arer i el pe oeoies? >> i think what is amazing -- but answer it this way. irderer iest nvabao wt piy ch president. the french like to presidents grandfatherly cool
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anti-america aur] say nof e gs w gfaly o. ths nothing about any of these guys. it's a classic american story. we elect presidents who don't begin to fit. if you have back hflo, ejs agdxo jon ny. csp around makeup and are out widel differing, you know, backgrounds. it's a quintessentially american g. fro nlad,ba ads. er is no club that would have them as a member in america. ths iembust t ifen ouisthe te yosstis g
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tenty american thing. >> bache taaipsidea atteon boat? >> were able to talk to president clinton in the first president bush and president carter. i interviewed e second president bush before were goarons sed book nd ju uensorevne ersaut t wervery, very grateful for the help they were willing to give us. i think this is a prey ma ruahn tre nolkut iulve sh etss so i think we got help from ople who would serve multiple thunn alon prprewy
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>> we have time for one or questioned. aheecy l uh dis aidef rmn o ests >>el think if you were fo pdeoue gal anyone outside he . gebeal uhset hlnws. oedm ecure phones and interest in all but one turned them down. i think a lot of the people who used to be presidentind of want to get away a lt dieng er haup d'hi r is a real
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downside to tell in any of those guys of that happening. what is interesting is when they tell, en aerhe strike on fitege akr bu t n conese in knethe o men had both in their own way try to get them come repeated for different reasons, unable to make it happen or pull it of. i think obamw no inh as an talre g done. that's the more important kind of blue. thank you. >> worry about of ie. thagib ie c ndon,nous co. ittcin.
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understand what makes americans anwssurpribyot gst a. nw eadat ers ivilc ua saw as much more collectivist spirit seems kind of hard for us to imagine that. he thought e uned states as a group ofpeoplewo eto al bthp.wndo after he went to the united states army saw the french as the individualists and americans as the more socialp frhaecl t pat people who understands themselves as a big group, as en.s is socity of colctiv
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>>o, goen aer crahe ionelrct's,ec ant." co-authored with matthew spieler, eleanor clift has alf eou ok oelitics &roseor teittees nomm fd ie ienboes andally politics especially politics & prose. many of us were riveted by youre two weeks of fe in the emoir of lif deathad ypltis. r ign wel it tythosu o read you to this day. nearly 22 years ago, eleanor and tom joined the0 ors t pocs prot rp
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a et picipto wsmof the former communist countries. we met with authors from poland, the czech republic, hungary and from theommunist part o wet uc aeadcavn enjoea other's company. what eleanor and her co-author have accomplished in selecting a president, is toma elec smudrsda bin i aa s nguhsornd ndl iesoe thm iconic coming and taking away any excuses for not being informed. thalllce y wat ppens if o ie ae heana iwhere someone may not receive a majority as remote as that is. so here is a book for the high
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schoolr ollgr rdau e'enty o mlo us eleanor, i loved your dedication to those that educate us n six in respect for those th run weat . cotartre movies. tonight we welcome you as an author to read let's welcome eleanor clift to politics and prose. [applause] k ,id rmbhe rip we went to several countries and traveled by car train. the cold war just ended and every time you cross the borde caa e i iyooe es anuyhrd nks d carla.
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[laughter] carlo wanted us to experience life at thelevel of average human beings, ande myghboie the bookstore for so many of you here and we love it, so thank you, david. exs'in,c iisltler t to si d in print. and it is a straightforward account of how our political system works. to be hone,teplierme edio sm. r eyno teach six anymore. m sure young people ot there are wondering where the 527's ined hm?x ca froandwo
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d ct oudi er w tsy ok prieti year certainly enterta us. but what did they have to do insres ii fielect a resident? viwato uhorme naeato daschle and will be working with some wonderful researcher and writer to put together a similar book daro wrelyppwrk wn fm i ei ntracted to i believe right about how e house works. so, we hope to fill what the fo hasng h lgeo. arndor oe nupt poca junkies because nobody
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selects the president like we do in this country, and the republican primary season and alghi hyyi enla edenalde owlirosme e te the country to sort of educate theopulace. [laughter] which i shudder to think we are bun,e wis some f g swb t i' tthanthge s tried. the crowded stage early this year on the republican side i think only had really too plausiblpspec, th s tm h s o vinoe prus e biena thk vrdy is in it for various reasons, and maybe partly their own delusions'. abrnge.t's the wonderl thing
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u t alhve in innc tnfluence the party platform and shape of the eventual nominee will run n. e timse olatma t is ve cehnon. in 1968, hubert humphrey won the nomination without competing in a single prmary.'sndfiab r insf exor mccarthy in new hampshire and certainly by kennedy in the california primary sadly assassinated he night h was to win the fo eform.car so we got the mcgovern frazier
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commission. george mcgovern an inso wi sofornd rules where women, young voters and minorities would be represented in t0usurrson to te pouat m hetiern women. that was my first convention. i was an operat for "newsweek." i worked in this week taletl, altaeed wwe t a t tis a oiics an a they still are. in 1968, 13% of the dlegates were wom's of that gives you an idea ofhow u em curr nserear. ge crnie
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le um myself. i thought everybody iknew supported george mcgovern, and i was rather shockwe e 't, e tth haviari atl lih gng the vice presidential you have to go out leading the search committee. but georgemcgovern ot a rathaj nair. rrd hus dict obia. it 1976, jimmy carter saw what george mcgovern had did and noticed there was the openingi bems in oy pe of iowa.
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presid carr r hdfiiasg hessi. jody scored a television spot early in the morning and said they are driving to the tv io sby a, pren- es mmyte, gi,yu we, they get there and it's a cooking show and the host is wearing anapron and a chef cap. so believe carter came p with ain r gala rterf course, one term president, although i think his legacy will be seen in a much thee, ich is about
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jerry convincing of the arena stage to "to camp ai whih a athpe hnon oucuan devout muslim and christian go behind the gates of camp david for 13 days and out comes a peacea c bte tis ksd lylid aiso mitt romney's characterization's of carter as a weak president. carter did lose big, real big o naea ha tge ca l i,t democratic party estoppel and says we are not goin to let another outsider like jimmy ag e infiltrate ourcrl
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detessk t s helte s that 20% now of the delegates are in the hands of what we cll the superdelegates rember heeyea n08a ed ouhelin20hen there and they woue the candidacy, but the notion of the party now overturning the willf he eo w ry th ie fatoidthato get me through the day with fewer tes than their opponenandu ul a reeraason o er b. hayes, benjamin
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harris, 1888. so it's not enough to win th popular vote. you have to win he ele llansxpnebu heio hr at eion and it does have some similarities that are reevant to today. truman rather fausly ran aithntionss gooreyondt progressive much like mitt romney once was former governor of massachusetts, and something in,dwy t tis. col hog,an umuccsfully tied him to the do othing congress, and that gets meto today'si
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acabo mrca opit a h t. and so his challenge is to establish himself as a centrist nservative andwokes paultese bls. eacpaign challenge is to more of the republican party pa fm asexisda with romey on te ke a oinhe heedgerid of planned parenthood, funding for planned parenthood. she's taken some pretty far right positions on immigratn in order to get to the ght of prrnery yoa itutn od
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day-to-day in the poitical rhetoric. onhegdr ah dmap prtm caeranmu, ngporo hispanics, and to-1 edge with young people. the wi card is how man wil arken t onths, i think obma is really facing a big challenge. one thing i have learned in researching this book is that prenobreecd anro a 5 e rr truman. polls today of the president of 48%. he hn't lycckan ederr le
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meuthl oewonkatyo eyndt matters, and i think it's going to boil down in this election it's going tobe two things, at unemployment nuer afaulty as t si whcaatd fs, d e d nheu e e, e in october, october 3r, 16th and 22. romney has plenty of experienc e th20f m th ae'odi.hn t er were few moments he probably would like to take back fering a 10,000-dollar debt and so forth. but for the most at h ndhi e terth proye n rosf wth democratic pollster said in a memo to his clients a week or so
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deneh e idhaix month out b 0cace th ct, t tup crtru oitoe in june and these are peter har's words, not mine. ras oryope i e poor to vote. that coul be wishful thinking. but i can come up with arrbate coy heen striking. but i think it is more likely we will see a squeaker that could go either way. inti ok t r cn
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speeches. eisenhower's speech when he declarehe will go to korea which basically turned around that t election because after juoitaldlri hu hre or rm h book beginning in 1948 when he was the mayor of minneapolis and he went to the ballldte datc convtionad rteye etth ghdecvlghan me o ehd f he backwoods thinking. it took along why all for that to happen that he deserves credit for getting itd y exis dseliy nvc his speech is worth revisiting. president obama nominating speech of john kerry in 2004
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which for she hehings e deei ec af th h tryt soer aot riding on this election. the shape of the deficit-duction package that in er ote reouto inn aeloom and go and the supreme court is forever and they are likely to be one, twthe anes wietit sha l liy thghm or she appoints d then there's also the historic nature of pridenoam'sen thfipe,nd eetl
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ntrvjo's geporait gallery. you know who vernon is he spoke here as well and kind of lives in the neighborhood. the former head of the urban league andis prt o ng hprrle hee tetta thtsenm len ompnt his election because america is about reaffirmation. and then he talked about his personaleeriehsol caer rencsl indiana and vernon wouldn't mind me giving away his aghe said he would be 77 in august so you can place the time and said cae uvtyire sld his pocket and his fatheraid you can't come home. he said what you mean i can't come home? his fatesilehrae
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br ucn y sicher yreng e gg to prc read, read, but you can' come home. so four years later, vernon graduates, pretty big man on camp. hithayu m sohie s what he means. and for me i think a lot of lodojt itstee wonderingia ec, id hs ve hndtrobably nobody could have dealt with any more successfully, or we can do at wanda syke, the african shyse cew, e b t hewi y. sot'ere a little bit of
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humor and politics alays helps. so with that i would like to aucee enakeuesons,nd iee a hierer wo o. la hipaa >>on't be s t yvr hour regra. i am curious about what's going on with regard to six in the schools. how has it changed over the yea? i get the impreson that one ofhreasthua yonoaadaerynd ishol you be marketing your booklet be in the schools or to whom? >> have exchanged i don't know th it's changed. evod lng wtotky
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bdet. hote t esnd guess six you can talking to another course. so basic civics is occasion just doesn't exist and sandra day o'connor, the former sre cot juste, in,hs edolwo inoueakcv ucn sabe usr her. and i leave it up to the publisher w they are going to market this, but life and they would love to get no. 'sn raet ra ta thhiayi otale count. so i think it is trying to bridge the gap d do it in a readable way so that people oftaty oeg t,dfethat we do a
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disservice to young people when we don't explain -- congress rightnwis asaha bdtent an, inere really is room in the marketplace for this book ih whisyotbouon r padcy? and in that light, there was the experiment this year with the public nominating somebodcome it0,vosy?couldn't get what was >>'rlkab icslcadthha money backi them, the interesting people working with th.n t olni office sd
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ne shoe wa yo bloomberg. they were not going to get i don't think jon huntsman bcuse e w aan a to in unlikely i coul win. would lit tet, onw thve o louisiana who tried in the republican campaign and really didn't succeed. is that really was about the best they could do. 100nretet ae ed fr athen their idea was whoever won their kind
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of lottery they wouldpick oeeno a ofor the oppositeprty u yaois was hnat t d hat and who was it, the former fighter jsse ventura of innesota tied that, and e hn iyue fuutnk.n terdoero being that they raised a lot ofmoney and then they announced they are going to give back the donations to the big onuts but t ttctbuanyb ge og pss afarit ylo a the sums than the obama and fahmy campaigns are raising just to the campaigns and then for all the little subsidiary organitions hav't pyed cle.sed hs hano raza behaeyae not there
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to feel the candidate. they are trying to find ways to actually make the congress work. they wouldike to see a libuef ao i orza, thri leetfrheig butrgongo talk about the 1940 election, there were too with their parties, one on each ide. thckthcneonanwalked iicr thy h ylce liberal, also draining votes. so that would have been a reat me. [laur] th tbi gh 'tee png le faen ptli d y parents who were german immigrants i believe they
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supported duty and iemember kiy mher why ands [ltehws doevno hs, u hsnoio e much. >> i'm a little bit younger than birmingham jordan, but i have been thrugh a lot of pitcs te abers o o'tal ime when a political party declared at its number one goal to get the idoufe, n salbo yt h td dr e tibuat do you remember -- onnoaal whyo tk bat20, a supeom,
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i think that the republicans were really flexed. they thought we are going to be in the wilderness forever. how are we going to deal with ? e orequy thfakt, h olr who has been around for some time advising republican candidates that on the day o colihe euant thdd haadthn up the next day and th paid off rather handsomely in 201 use ttoace sokhatha i nt ow hr it takes them, and think if mitt romney does win, itill be very retingecau heud
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reicoundrpban tok the walk. he will not be able to stand up every of ejmy cerht is how idwd cfort rythhe s i't fa rey nenu o mocrats say he was a good governor of massachusetts, he was fine as gvrnor. hey e noworried aboh jues hvete g a nk n having trouble moving back to the center because every time he takes half a step he is got th'mn bi t ithe right vi mitt romney and fais
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necessarily, butas a political observer its traditially the puannghd encuy ahe thur akn jst rdorm romney and then also the ubiquitous television you can't say anything anmore that so kitarrisn't unt liangraiddionir politicians. it is a tough life to get out there and fail publicly. metimes when you proceed it's wonderful but th's not ofrsttnese in losop a least seven years. and i heard myself say the other night that's how he can fit into those skinny jeans. [lghter] deeyti
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tamcks o congress, which might have been or might not happen, i believe itwill happen, after the novemb election we areoing tatd eanetw other items. do you have an predictions on what you think might have been? >> they are calling the tax to get him. itesue yter. 'so eartit uhef be front walknd now they will be at the door they have to decide and here is where if romney does get elected i think he wilhave wiave- cabee inobiereil ae s e gatob part of the deal, and obama,
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love him or hate him, hasn't panned himself down nearly so much. coom.tre asal oeo. h y rhin th er cuntr h he m would be better positioned frankly to make the compromises and maybe ththpesi i a of theiraei ro augmuyith atid ieafront row what to watch how to square his campaign promises which would be so in the viet nam with he demand of his paty. bun t thanalfonti ggoo e is e g hve >> many of us in the democratic party especially on the side have felt that mr. oma has ivwsovrte >> you're point is well taken,
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but there will have to be give ecause ofthe personality an obstepsioa t gr when the president first key man, remember, he ran on -- i can go to washington and we can all get ig owshnga thyv wnyiat a i hfgte blsdt nstnd ike the idea for but getting it wrong and it's a sincere with hisaoita o an took him a long time to
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realize they were not playing nice and it wasngit t dtik yo at eync t do't idonhe young people in america today understand if mitt romney gets elected what pact itwl ae thsupreme court justices and that would be a disaster for this country. totoisinsu don't understand why juhi cthwldn so much. all the votes they're going to count, getting people out to vote will be important for obama whoever comes out it iste mn anldie oota ttois
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eiser vto come behind him. these are things the you look at and say these would get the tkets ae tey are important now oni' s t the are 37 undeded and that is srtsct er its peopler temtihlerpublicans would be crg out from everywhere that is the concern he would totally energized the othersd. ery ewo o ma nestwheat gt. nde em o, moicen mine said shwould not be surprised to see the campaign ads that featured the justices in red and
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cumalarbsa of teir st.tosat sue t vg e pe isr in'r most people. most people don't understand there are nine of themin this lifetime and all of that paid it's never beensucss ht would say it is r and have read justices, and you can see allof the issues that are liningendo fiivt u hot as an arm of their movement i ink in a much morvisceral way than libers om e t ayrl prens heil o least one
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vacancy, possibly two or three. and then israel i don't know if he will go to isrl but before e eion y ge uksadta wl t pntat ae should ge the diplomatic credit for that. so thanks. du e thtsion. t ishla's e? >> i think she probably wants to sleep for awhile kow hee on an yseto clinton i think it is pretty clear what he wouldlike. hes a man that practically had
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i'ese icwo prssn bdai think he does. and hillary has done a remarkable job pting a od ce mai f s.d hn he eetic enough, and i think, you know, 60 and 70 or not what they used to be. pretty soon we will be saying 100 twi is mend f e st un she can. but i don't tink that she can expect that the democrats would clear the fied er mos onutll ledota. ve yoorn omtheotwn be shy to be a senator mark warner,
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maryland a governor o'malley and that is just three of the upand whe ho aheedierno the in pshiand as they say the only cure for wanting to be president s embalming fluid. if g tr of 2t n t nng u 2,016th. >> i want to get your opinion on rahm emanuel. he was touted as being an wentogr h bm huge majority in the house and the sand like they just fell through. >> i thi erof hide a odjo
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hehspenfih did restore the hous to the democrats by going out and recruiting people to match their districts and so there were nt pe th ruit n weao f. in the white house is as though he was cautious and this book we talk abut what is a mandate, o asitnwi?ndoh haat en nwi1% e 1ansd george w. bush didn't even win the popular vote in 2000 and he acted like he had a mandate and abusg iowresent obama snd neo e puan wro one john mccain and everybody took that as a big sign of arrogance
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i don't thinhe was rrgant enoughnd i kww mh sa as etertaa nallrsteced whave to wait for him to write his them are. but his experien as the chicago mayor delete command nominate his but beuse tht's a le ss.o those of us of a certain ge remember when there was such a thing as a moderate republican. and ev the liberalblao oned nt o litoats an others. one of the things that happened on january 20th,0od disehe enwa
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fa dr that frank had written about and put together ith sarah kantor andother people bunotjoh n h eg rlyae thto e dya opposition and to make sure nothing had been constructive in thobama administration particularlydtll. peitoaa resrpbcaad t senate stays democratic,what thehances of crting t ajy'eg meal >> limited which is in part why the president is in the second straw often turn t foreign
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policy. although h t pdet beembl uc tegnici ir ll rk sth taaboeign policy as a wasted day because the president has really turned his attite about about that. t, i think you haveo it see ate lta wobeamlr ait. by a handful of seats. i think a lot of those tea party types that seek the compromise house arywy ot ngci adipnointhe house i don't know that this is necessarily a good thing. john boehner comes down to moderating a moderate rpublican hian anybody that might elce ftwie he
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amelantoe ar bblieved, they always seem to think that there is some chance for the rationality to prail. ani think the thr anerarpuas? eate l dmocrats have a meeting othe democratic version of frank luntz and make deatd'eqithecision i think appetite for payback but i'm sure lot of democrats will be wishinthey did in fact this is ree th w don't want the. prosperity we've known and the future we'ven ob
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t yrathorkfriend for you put into this and for the introductn and ted sullivan who helped organize this and n hrth t e esae erit tiscemrd or also to the owner of thi wonderful book store.overed ti aroua jpee inio c- htool at t e fugot wtc ist some point on c-span book tv it is a great pleasure to be here. so, what i'm going to do tonight giva ta abou os antnbea le2ec spulnwte2 election will be featured in the united stats.
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i'm going to begin to talk about the questions what i think is a pr bd prdctwhih s oer21e reablundiny wr n loser. [laughter] but the bold prediction as this. for several decades which s whic t a ni t ofimheinatio will have a tremendous iact on the political history a change the political dynamics in a whole bunch of ways letlyantwo cculitit sendnto essi fhe eoranoee in the republican state which shows you are not provided in alm i ri adny way and lost. mpsas mme ve oe, endth
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te o tl me the voters let me down so that is the famous quote when h dropped out of the 1976 presidential race said the votersssoyosr f t hittw st19hed ll evrisa reat country. anyby can go out to be president except me. so you worry about ht han madwlllh u s aw d so i feel like i moved the ball forward a will that but at the presidential level there is a chance for fargreater impact and heers eey te'slee. prtawhhe iea aiy m dcy . i'm gointo explain that a little bit and then often losing campaigns are far more dynamic ho th mdmore prophetic than the
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elonghte oay t first. then we sit around for an hour or two waiting for the guy to come out andspeak and the ones at o t lkhihe r gng on ch ti e alveoue k e tboheat tissever when the winner declares victory. it's only over when the loser has defeat. if the loser says idd'oe an'los, t alh idyo bseven ht pp ndwrld. in a lot of ountries people don't abide by the results. you seeos and ri sr 0 e estiamn a oon apgn20
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eee t ican-american president and e republican john mccain. the losers didn't like the pe aqatmlion.after all of the errets d in mongoliand those re all furred world countries but it happens everywhere. pren f holas sarkywsc os h he60ca n 60 as so we are fortunate we don't of violence in our presidential election and a lot of that is due to the behavior because th dioi utepthd sayi'm ltet cu t ifaonde ed fwa thav do ata e er a y err if the losers consent again if we are on the losing end and you say i refuse to rick mie the legitimacy ho cananytg t
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ne u gloaaod ine h ns ote nehe agntbo ha wrt re gng a point where such polarization we are going to lose this tradition. esecially over the past prideies artg wi inansorgw d baabma,he weboa strong democracy we are still a relatively young democracy and there is no country quite as diverse as the united states having so many different ethnic oudieegl try keep us unified and understanding the government may not be the government we wanted this year bu there is a legitimate government we wil ifev at itmm oin c evr oing to see some
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terrible problems in our election. the other way that sometimes losers have impacted winnersi the li o hp. so i would urge you every major program in our political system must be first talked about in the loser can pay because it takes hile to gain te pc pt bseit o ey ifct bs chs brihe participants. they bring a different type of folks that bagby hasn't put dissipated in the political process before. maybe it the young minority. thrinls lo flinmnsrean est ge p g a liberal party to the conservative party or conservative party to a liberal party and the reason thy do that is a couple reasons. first nothe
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g ostob hth dndmhat liliyowa t be 1948 you come from way behind and you win b in fact most elections are ordained by whether there is peace and so lggnmemea hat ae s eryod et letntthet rug fhepl walter mondale or john mccain your sarah palin on the ticket phaotda whw the oicae thisnger we g lose so they went through the long pss and had a lot of excitement for a while in at campaign
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and that's what's happened. sy anen takouhap the ic oe oent id. i ttlohr id fm the 19th century who are not member the jury will but who in fact help hape the very fundamental nature e cs ey tneattee of lysinepy pas thnsse e one is the emocrat. vative as is conservativ party s and one partylk b s heclut y
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prenrievo me meep sawll, ben franklin and the john marshall, george marshall and although framemak eight. henry clay was probably the eatest legislatu in ameran he t alyor t he edak e house on the first ballot in the oath of office. d wainrestlycze hee iheou y pr hc ceremonious. and he's not the factor most powerful person and it wasn't waystayhy dcha legislators get on wet committee. so he transformed and formed a
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party. excuse me, tnsferring it vefivd whe te i mse efeia leader and that mente believed that government and the federalistsw lilpsts tion hg cohaeaitit t adequately. it developed a latterly ann hamilton believesjh. y whersn, he a o oem neelse who led a group called the warthog's and the british are cpturing the pu fhe ae al iee r112bse
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it was an absolute disaster. basically we lost the war. robotically they ere preoccupied wth this g naed po. wd orch c on crai the ea osh a itr didn't have any industrial brave spirit of the british are blockading our ort 't aeacmon enana k. e ow tby brh.thhe h w the advantage of fighting on their home court, with such terrible infrastructureould move troops around the y. cnt oy h thto etam ro nnaventt ther sm a brilliant ea where he was trying to get support if every part of the country with the nornufrindnrace t tngthen
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tathehe neomtea dld frhe west without and manufactures more than a national bank with common currencyadmer ys hirsnch rtura fod.ci ovi ha tederalism: i'm in favor and abdicated the recession during the war of 1812. there's a brief time for a geneo w aca exrchhedt man named andrew jackson. claim jackson were kentuckian. jackson is from tennessee. on his etbe se yevrtheny .
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for his part, henry lay never understood andrew jacksos popularity. set a nuber one the ra t ioansane ildererd kiin 20enis cicd st. e 'tdn. jackson blamed clay for his flight status because you think campaigns are nastynow. he should go back to the campgn of 24i8 ecso h er chey quincy adams was a minister there and they cleaned that jacksowas actually the and of course was living n ahemaiea thtu medw sahell mrs. jackson and died suenly in 1820 and s veyvious.
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e e thas 82 'rthnihi thweevig-- jackson, clay and john quincy ads. and the results were split. bu dt a ao. ouar reenver w ea aith b c finished fourth in the house of wiepnterbatives for uceia said crawford h a strope. i can't ote forcrawford. i hateckni ppjouiaa s mclecry ofta people for he sold out his vote
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ani'm the reason i'm telling you all of this suol venalou ddti las jackson was so in the former republic. we started thinking the only way to be jackson was to be orgaized rs ae wed jannagt ew coted y state level and a national committee. we do have candidates running in m advsesps.ers to raise a to hasdeaa lialtywewi today are fced with antipathy towards andrew jackson. and then after we lost and jackson defeated clay in 1828 d cimin 1ms tol oratandced
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nhest te party in the jeffersonian publican in this time we only had the democrats. so you have not the democratic upheal o jone party are ae d . e emfr he a iiwr but his greatest legacy is that he maintain the two-party system on whole different way. it was a kill nt nray pas oaond k thaedet broad-basedpart and potentially defaulting to the republic pay. and i say the two-party system anpuanparf thecman. st fahba douglas, so what good was he?
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the weather was pngd ostrat tad li hnd lif fl pat ay todd and the president decided to mary sogl .n id saans i nd agreed debates, depth is great issue as he wanted to expand wt to build the transcontinental railroads. he wanted america to stay togeer and genate prosperity thav beet unsa e heayanooa te di 5 ginhwa se e west and figure out how to get the wife settled in the southern states behind it as worse than whattays behin it. whr wtosary to contain . theel opse
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by henry kraken which banned slavery in the north, including the western territory, but douglas satie, but this gr idea to appeeesuh sly ka t nstn. thopecwher eyt er not. it caused such a firestorm come at the agef sovereignty that again retired frompliti. he wnla og-rmoi nekaatot back into politics against abraham lincoln whdos eotht debatei n dos thec. 1 da ailel id ahe respective parties. wit rdcdnd htithefvorif
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wa.ls whey thusnto ro it -- they decid they needed to destroy the democratic party. thuntoerldatic partyw t vee odd is aurlyn anutlot.or and so they were very anxious to destroy the democratic part is sort of move forward on secession. sogsw 'tinc hent ee campaign this in virginia and nort carolina and said mr. lincoln is thvyuo iis o
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em carolina. what the moderates purgatory to go south. they went to georgia and alabama and mississippi and they wetedhou atengi agwh t uee ketr gh ta d ai fwost months. he just are themselves thoughtlessly. of course the last. douglas had summertime to forge opom. e h ne the a'bune republican rule. douglas became one of the closest allies. there's even a lege think is true based on the report ads rtian at thear meg ay hth sd th truth. lincoln wanted to cost 75,000 dotko leikila said no, you
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. neo eremha em48hu. ey eyagiv d. s as hnt in time the northern democratic party did not know how to react to the secession. they did in office or a republican problem had nothing . idbuand f e trs he ugi oe uny oehe y ain the north an the rpublicans on war polci. th, wed spor m thio ds, ht' rtas oe ii r. had there been a fit politics and the democrats not been performing, had beenbae torn reich a ste bueraiis democrat.
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they did what they call waving the bloody shirts remind people that jefferson dis and ery es. ca ote das adictyiedhwa meevel as republicans. so unions carried the day in large part, very selfssly in so have a liberal and conservative party with a couple other folks and we'll gt to the question answer to the moicty aty balle tilsr p geauf william jennings. this shows yo how politics can be extremely unprectable. habe t rsi 1 served twtermi
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knas biant work traveling the united states all the ime, giving speeches. this tiny section of at the thventstoanreoplae la roand ncinstprin brdihis and he actually believed pretty soon i'm going to g to the democratic convention and be the nomine i think you're crazy. thi g h utws who you r. astseaweo e ti cntisll moment.hling there have been a debate over whether there should be an open supply. there is no mon in uln. carmmbeatl r xmntf ciat196 papering
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cooling for nights like $5 per person thre ina bi aato ny. ra tr rd dp opo ha hnaged to fanatical one of the four men who are going to debate this plaformo e soebsayoowhi ry eaopun ai'or, lbe disappointed. so if this mvelous voice. and so he got up there and hs thcothonmn syschago al u the stairs. and of course most of you are familiar with e climax of the speech. dopoethorspr
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owornsah ra hed oullocih mankind on a cross of gold. he held this post or five seconds is completely uet hollinaman weg ols ufgr cve. i we going to nominate williams jennings bryan. tad n ave t nmelate wall v rer aid.o asexel radical program. it was so radical that the 1896 campaign is still the st expensive presidential campaig in historyecause big business istred th r 1,00lur eet they put innocent people's paychecks instead, if we fight
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you voted fr one of jnnings yaurre e , t wr. cacoe,buh on election, the conservatives, small gvernment to beral rty hee y. twotfo lomre nteneda anhay ater i remember it at in second grade i think it was. my pents gave it tom paane erve rt rsnd tom dooley had been the standard before that, republicans have been a moderateparty. for some accommodation with the lfare state in thr fe an uld peoclsri thowfgen d exis tur o
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rty. very famous quote from mayor, too. so he transforms the republican party as well. i've been talkingoo lg, slo pi geov lba wals uly got wiped out. if you pick up a ewspaper in november 1964, the consersm gotesef icup hepar ve 1w bsa g heere lili is dead and these things were discredited. so what wa true 1 years after rastthcnseivea prenndoi 92 rcgo ced e coalition of democrats who have minorities, around the highly educated actors. brn, ohors oewon in
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tihr it showed how tese campaigns can change that you may not know the results for decades. so let's talk quickly about the axisrehear netocag n y i'tteouybwhssi teaouyev t ecpren ra bama looses, my book doesn't change. i'm not going to talk about let'ta abo a ope wa het apig note donald trump and herman cain. that goes back to ross perot. nobody evert od oubit. roeraish e est.
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caed lot of imagination treats the people started thinking in last 20 years, we need to cbo and the abti grades?century. why in the world would anybody crack? at goes back to t 1952 adlai widlteonwsa scolyedaeo lowbrowampaign. when eisenhower would say some in the staus quo. excuse me, i shouldn't talk likt 's zytgs methmos t itltulaa republicans have been middle-class stability started in1952. oscam 9 tn obama'scs h
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n olo omed pren ttney hest er day saints. they have the same kind of problem. those are the this th go o mfbl t bu m ve mpahe ideas? eventually housemates hadn't talked about it because ople kept saying i just don't like the fatta t'a ibio a hsra en mrs mbane i clear. they do a comfortable coding you veo gino sh oep.no one seemed to be giving n
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inch. when romy was up forsnum t ? ve tmora onin frent ecu f pt0 s is including in the wake of 1968 lead the reform cosifpop me rcs.wecsadbeen so fpeople. it works pretty well for the mocrats. they didlteertt tysmuoron r reicded on nge bls tes er or requirements. it's a long process. fa.y wanted people to be treated ttnennuiet
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tiles rto me. so the evidence about hoses in campaigns have impact, george mcgovern has impacng power this ya to ceyh letei aith delight? pacesetter reminds me of the man who went to the irish week and got drunk and ssed out. when he woke up he said, i'm inisfitoam ido ed et i sa th? n'owt m, i k ayut ng candidates. the solo bunches comments. i appreciate your time. thankou. la >>ttnt oneuen tes. o'ucan athe champions?
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>> from attack but the other guys who werepin instg har. he was a model for a bold bunch of hollywood films because he was put in the guysaa. tp 5,00 weresptting organized crime away. so use leading residential candidate. he was the leading presidential ndidate as the 36 show districtay vey men rnw okan extremely active, created te first expressway system. neorhad fer prms r dai n
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he ayet. ws-ave e harry truman. most things he accomplishein the first term. wllrynpar th actually not true. he ran a very aressive campaign. truman, you k, ili harry trum, tohay ndomrpblns dt y with ybody and created a lot of bitterness. he did when the people were excited. but if it is time for the country that was very bad anit sk a c aexel es. umoue pnt his rst term for the second term is a disaster.
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e e aerqesi w treic nvonr int yopin?gain enertein question. we've not had had a completely wide-open convention so we picked adlai stevenso nd it snve ung est e ke wovewas ve robert patton. the only othertime the said meeting was in 1976 remember fonald reagan challengedad asded l we in0 stacou overcome the democratic convention. so to be wide open. if had something because of th delicate situation is hard to y. weon'tave r er ea .ba n 1962 they control their
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delegation. they say okay, everybody from the surrey or idaho or wyoming, this is how we're going to go. ow o we'te hiikat or isbeutc upngilo the 1924 democratic convention, which finally nominated a man on the caedjjin the big war?te to see it to do that come up or survive in 1924 convention. so i think will be very chaic. ain, it will be aled pocsatif lie >> modern-day losers get treated by media as real losers rather than respectable candidates. what are your thoughts onhat?
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is vgouen. thay, s aee wa omedhr times. people weren't intified as failures because they lost an election. there's a really good bo if you're interested inild ngerah ot ai isi. oioue uro onern incident well, i had a business but it failed to put them over time failure as become an it no w t t at w? rtf that again is changing culture. it talks about the industrial revotioncommcial lu cinriw ecmy t base erssinca
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>> h much cree dense to you give to the theory or the thght that hedgehogs are better atwincs, tu becoming leadership -- leadership ability in when they're actually presiden y.oreastt, wel,rea sr t cauteclyomine heogoh- what ou might call the big thinkers that are more flexible and not the idosthhehore t hdgs re sedr wig eloa then the others do much better when
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they're actually presidt of the big thinkers? more flexible. t thio oreon thhisomosi partisan, likehat you said, scare people. i think it goes back to the theory we have a fragile democracy. mes telctwe th 'selra yhiboci wat oaiman issue called slavery. iter to the country apart. i think sometimes we try to avoid issues that are too sensitive. think of artiay p e tyuolnoad pl si sr bui u h he devicive issues, it may help you win a primary. you are sharing your view. bl unsettles th roar kouuke t'lkattng c
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n op t k a issues that are divided if they speak in passionate terms scare people off. unisi ll arp are sath st r liket k mcgovern. the big issue was the vietnam war. they agreed the wa wa a stake. cotad abtarhe hed caree blood every member in here is responsible for the death of 40 million american boys. so even people who might have stweetog imhearasa t e dn i k aipee agree with him on so of the issues. maybe on abortion or
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contraception, porn is not od e hlkat sre pe. i a hndych church an it made want to throw up. you frighten people. you think these are issesat tiasslnc id d'tenero has a human being and as a human issue. he said you continue solve moral issues in a flil theater. you need to keept itnkte'ou , 'lerrelvh les stay off those kinds of issues. >> how -- how do you think that senatomccain'sunte arer a me lcc'sun
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cefoicrdechge hotuicpid a selectedded? >> i think first of all, probably more vetting. think ifogobat goorinete thitapit cover. he was pixed too soon. and he wasn't properly vetted. i think they weren't quite sure how she wulda rewapw nn a country and in the national immediate yoo ya and he was taken away from her family and the newborn child. and sh makes afemiak tht itfre gr a ning that it's nice to be exciting, try to generate momentum.
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you need to know more about e people. u tabo lk e hg,satti i dac. i 'tnk w much about him. i think it's important he be vetted. it's another problem with the nomitionattle for the republicans goinforward. is that n a u te int tinouh bitavi pren tory was george mcgovern. he had not locke up the nomination befre the 1 ec. be mpclld. errcu w ec.gcfo dn' so ti the wednesday of convention itself the vice president nomination was due the next morning, thursday. he had less than 24 hours to thin auts c weus. etin mng sd von4..e bor
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and so they had forty names they're starting with on the list. part of the problem mcgovern wa sure h wu d wn'ihian as fiy, tried gaylord nelson and a whole bunch of people to be on the ticket. ateryby said, i can't do om missouri. catholic, urban. good with labor. they call up him fifteen nutes. he said do you want to be vice prest. ai a veit ednabouge hesd i. erre problemmings with him. he had mental health issues and electroshock therapy. it came ot and it was big
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veamerk meoasibedm course when he did did dropped him a few days later methabitu e te rise of the super pacs and the influence. how do you see that influencing romney's? >> we're getting out ffy atka >>hiso pls tkomeby said they outspent the actual campaign 5-16-1 the campaigns aren't being run by theaig ern rdiotwn th' fundmently changing
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american politics and it'll be interesting to see if the e zeundce.urts decides to si s pyr 0mgei' ioec 'm coll the message, i don't ave that much field for the campaign manager. n'ow oust opl now ou anamanols. w ?e es f yes, sir? [inaudible] hnubvbrd ca95. >> you have a reat history knowledge. there was a thing about davis in the back. i backed far chapter legth extremes. i piket u
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ndinrey e hen' a very important candidate as women. some people credit him making sure the united states of .repared ld rar dotanhcogo ug evasth g aid meaan ll the american people why it's important we give aid and the congss wasabout ready to end lhor nt fo ietho poab t t ch hsy,didn't change the politics. nothing about him changed the political parties. i did ssay on everybody in the mid lowwa a' he sproabl
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america's gretest lawyer. 's argued more cases before the supreme court than any other attorney. arofdtiash intro onth stn. s gentleman an african-american named thurgood martial, they said,who is your idol and he said john. wh goricai in sehowdjtrt 'srhhodo marshall becomes supreme court lawyer. there's intesting men who, you know, they're on secure. atthhih desaer michigan, the outstanding ublic school system. it was a natch tch list. he was ainxpn
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bhtitt d a- but their interesting characters. it's a shame they're frgotten. i hope if my book doesn't do anything els if it encurag opo ore th it sd le loferehr men have interesting thoughts. i would encourage you to if you get the boklook atthbb d eg o ya t ys defensive about them. i want to advocate on their and a half. they're great people. they're deserving in a better place in histy thn th . >>,ir u t .y. if you look at the '64, and '72
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campaign. you say well, geoge mcgovern eyw ilia rsiry om, gingrich, or santorum. whoever runs this year isgoin to breakaigicio ie na rscaolo in oepan bars wa.aegte up for grabs. the catholics had a religious identity wanted to become more republicans. fastest grg chth coslur ats eafe e i believe it's going to be a critical election. i think the republican party, both parties are at an mptant turnba meh rblty
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even has more figuresof division. should we go back to the center? that's what john huntsman said during the campaign. trtau peole sad wsul eyoi ta adte ovhiwtty goes. how they lost and what they said is going to have a tremendous impact about what the party is going to be like in the future. could be thisye an uld or ae y.ipd ean thas e biography about the poor guy? some peopl forget quickly. some people have a enormous inflnce. atis't knowor de d eaiinteer ea said, we're going to have a little refreshment, and hope you all come. thank you for your attention.
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these two men are my dad and my grandfather. they taught me what it means to be a mad yae trusriite grtin oemld ikhesteophocbad joke telling machine of the roadwayage me, my grandfather, a huge man with saddle up th ttl w tss s,ndyes. do that to the program and say see that you are not magna laude or summa cum laude. ou.'rejust think yo lte i'm
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to appear in the middle of the i rnacterui paperwork when at 11:18 in the morning with a thunderous explosion. iminrunteiheel all 505 feet andy thr dhila mae back down in the water. let's are not from the ceiling titles popped out. everhing might ask what to the fo foot insidemcw. itlyb unid msknac pio hep peovan d du.the
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ronald reagan presidential library in simi valley, ag,erynia. thhaot anc mmye is john heubusch and on the honor of executive director the ronald reagan presidential foundation. it's mpleasure to welcome all inoromean n oro nd fom nd hwr ou la i ur gef allegiance. i pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the uted states of st, na,ud
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viewtlbe a thyo see seate as i was preparing for the riof salget at t w t b'v itnto ees statistics. don't worry, while this introduction will start on it though, i promise itill end on thta toer thdand ot. nodot hold me to exactly is the source of the iternet, but they are revealing and if yo sww.y toto onirghsl boor rofir lives.
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42% of college graduates never read anoer book afte ole d of.amint e ea lt now, i have to present it to the extent these people read thir review habits are confined to alaf signs. wetbs i think they are missing a lot. i say that because every once in wrs geetr ytte am s,ifr ofin al once.aert that is definitely the case with itll s kbs in mike y,he prenlia w
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uned opinion. and while i am handing ut opinion, having readancy a mike spoke, i am sure therewill not be abrbwt u on mn-scyi bld sotm. now i know this because for me the book capac--assed i 'to aonry . ac fthithre only former president were allowed to stay. and i definitely didn't know wa president agan who taugh thre regu. ovs juhnf of discourse to such such revelations throhout the book. and no wonder, nncy and mike
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are two of the mt talented iters a edtors a ti ga wasxvnt e dseoexnd eeuioreeo e aonderful book. so ladies and gentlemen, wth that, please join m in welcominagian [aus >> thank you. thank o. i tar sg th yars that nancy and i spent putting that together we had many odd discovery moments, abt thest he larning as much th tusebiaera,tisdd'
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t ma erem reagan to bush and clinton and bush and now obama. so for us it's a real journey to say nothing abut what we thngoinwy et that. and for us it was a journey that continues and ople keep telling us things we didn't know. but in some ways, rnrag s igpaf hts wwode bse fime mi 1947, mine before he is presint. and as we got deer n togareon i e s,led tu aenfr hne li i ne and d t a german fundraiser in kansas city wn he was still a democrat. and would then be taken under
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the laneiwws asepcaicar wath relationship with her public as they come p the driveway i saw over and over again while the president which isa reminder that everyerson who served as asaoiggrubin-cef s isf juan ace ths pi ohov ttw t weeks ago. it's never been published bore anralyamn werethrilleda oror t ic the torch and in fact begins in, what year would you say? >> well, tisns rihl ha ri thn keer
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d herbert hoover, two men with nothing in commonpolically, persally ratiohip diulanuscale e 5adands himself president. and so, he is not one to stand on ceremony. he does not care that herbert hoover had leftshingon s e ednrca en mcas ed sinn'ru, enle oet whenever an event suggested t frankl roosevelt maybe hoover could be useful, hoover knows a lot and hewas a great nitaan relief worke roeluly no su hit. ano rnrbho t dead. harry truman ws reading reports is that as many as 100 million people in europe for risko viec tom h
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an cin na roelitusul ac t tranrey s a letter to hoover are saying, what do they want to come and talk to me? and the two emee. 19re n a f nu owefffo 'rryuofah other. nothing is going to come of this. within a year, hoover has been given staff a a plane and sen tuan,0leou e d. tonri36 imnis see m t pope. his mission was to move food from the countries that had it to the count that needed it. presentsorm tse two rthithxi s a pocaen because
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they both are so committed what needed to be done. i first laid thefun, prend tion anishhn ho e meetne another on the platform and eisenhower inauguration in 1953, hoover goes over to greet president truman ss we should tr sgran hedents . id ibe si a hca da s, inch r he platform except it turns out that the success has presiden become more and more and more real. spanow f15asc ilprego h orer ests ndjhson chris and secret security, secret service security detail at me as of presidential hicopters and ev a projectnf it uslmra twe ineadwal ei
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edwamo fth rid nixon as the clubhouse, which john mentioned him which only one repter in history h stepped foot insidef >>t: heke iule e prsears emh colleague and he said, what the name? [laughter] i don't think we know anything about this. 9rcn controe cry xsdeyx linda johnson is going crazy. he has been sent home. his term is done. he decides not to run for reelection in his little stir crazy. he's been rninrmareho as nany ihewsese mmpne sheo stay. johnson was driving the nixon
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white house. was a distraction that nixon finally figured in the house. get teudi,dfce ac sovgh go iiaridacol whnrescfte this assignment. and i guess that tells you how i found out about the tory. so they basicly te ov nd toun e uaadeothecre e e idn and stay organized, till today. it's recently been renovated. i did recentlyget inside. ses vee sdes fr yon h i ueluathe re count on the sheets is like a good trillion. [laughter] there is a lovely little feel on the vetoverhere y stories is.n
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we all love reading presidential biographies. ths g rnbert. n ras. aun o d e treed son and curl up with. one of the things we wanted to do is pull the two men together and look at relationships because relaonships or whatever thatirng o h dce wngthbran hech ahews neee res adales long before reagan was president and long after ike was. so much so that in 196 6 ldonren s gig caan ecofalnnfo prennc wle, nh aet to pennsylvania is watching it. never met hi
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he's rding everything hecan, watching on tevisire hees tm d ecy nswtttoe rn' ieto help hm cope wit the charge from which it most days is that reagan was too much an extremist who represent mimaetnngrican ty they are lke, for examp there was a charge that he had been too close to the john birch sociy in the ely 1960s, eiow oae coming u. a ndeone asked this question in reagan should answer it this way. he goes through several letters and is doing it whi nixon is notin. to top as ies pec 676 reagan is contesting
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for the gop nomination against richard nixon used to be the vice president. >> a haur bouto so yhahelofg, li s untat better. >> this is the bohemian grove. >> ts ishe club c. bee ththmaus reons acngng reaynedo in politics. >> wwere stumped by that. s ebian g n rid n heftld etbeooat grove that summer nixon was giving the big spech there about hoover.
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t en hreal wanted to reniacly eka nmio 'sin tnt h primaries and pick up delegates. he's got the right wing of the republican completely worn ovpeer peopleewia f ckseheeeei ocstutr 19 ag wixwh ght d st h ock, suddenly having to contend with the newcom from california, who he had met just to go back in 1947 when he was a young coss. 'vowche og bu t trel po ides. as we found throught the story, these men would be iends, sometimes rivals long before either of them reached anthis itfice e ou rblan
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time, or right after nixon had started de his comeback after watergate, reagan as presint and there is grat twth tw th. ane otwllt d olol sto nixon, as is giving him advice before you thieves, i'm yours to command. and so went back becomes si sd tewthal kindof advice that could appoint and how to conduct your first year, he would say, i'm fiurs to command,jss cn pars, itag a xo a found that presidents are the same party often have the more complicated time getting along with each other than presidentof fferentpie
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sei idy reon f oushe something of a rocky start. the 2008 campaign was bound to be a little hard on them. but the thing that gotto of wreert may washec am nvkim o idenal greatness vision, itwas not the last democrat o manage to win two trms in the e e. exe athtss e hat cl so e country. it w in a vision obama agreed with, but what is captivated by what he honored with the fact tahentase wherhe wteo ine tronth d ouths isy ul tiv llnt ob ak about the clinton
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presidency and comparison implicitly to break and haven't been small in poultry in a missed opportunity and about smallgd ,hute m grstantu a amsadpph clinton as secretary of state, he basically makes bill clinton sign a prenup. but all is the at money he is whhesoooem ee iatca seligeaong with that. he says it's hillary's turn now and i'll dwhatever they need me to do. it takes a lot for the twomen to find thirfotina thk eoh gsourhaaen nd s hpnto ny prs i pdentbama has been in fice for a while, he realizes doing great big things is not sy. doing anything is not easy. suddenly the deals and compromises anmaneuversin gshey ises a mondane.n
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d no we see in the newest oba campaign video directed by an oscar-wnning air and rratythnsst arfoim1 teil clinto >> just before republican primary, one of different people run for president talked about this earlier todayi d t w df meest.seg utdot th00aiot democratic side was an argument about ronald reagan, and which, as nacy was hit ome obama reesthli e s. sthihio en draa cls onsotion and these are men who come under the office of huge cars, big welts,
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drear ifftomry sccessf. ras heb r ah om ri wyo ethui we aurn suddenly cried and things they wish they could do over. even the ones that turn out ths moicfo19 ih isjo.knedfr trip after ike's grandson of course. i give this to her that her, this is how manydy as t o. ra ehos ng edoded to bring kennedy came into the odyssey we organize the white house around his old ways they can decisions. he sat einhow vy mitaryra wotng ok anapalsiy pihed ba
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wog el. seer kennedy meet and beiniu atoushn w. edulard ge wyhdi siakanulco che the one that ike, interestingly enough before they appear before the camerasand kenny need t iu vea eho d an ohhe ne arry. eisenhower didn't criticize kennedy and publc. >> in fact, the following week old congreionaldgn deapgime gebu s io. th hose at the kennedy administration on eisenhower person back and said there should be no witchhunt. it is important that we pr si, i
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repo, ci i arasess be >>ch vey chk hat happened two or three weeks ago. i just have to bri this up. after george w. bush left office the club hasits protocols and tradionsre wof thrriddees il, h cic g o. virentcn te that approach. [laughter] but when he nally broke cover ge ucveti weeks g n n x en pcter enr hbt couny shou criticize our president said that the public role of supporting the curent onecnin >>d tsis ang ag e lhoh ed
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about whether eisenhower counts as a texan, and two men who had worked csely with eisenhower's president and johnson as majority edr. l,e bl arumo. asinn,nss he ne yoron time. i need you more than ever now. the next morning eisenhower kicked in his car andries to he es edyboy lye le a. ond 's got a joint session of congress and heris that you need to say because the world is watching. the untry is traumatized. one wonders what is gointo hiasev yeeo thpotoh ug nnsda. nnedy's agenda was stalled in congress for not going anywhere. eisenhower sufficing him to push it through. this is not because eiseower
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s ed ga. iss ciew evt mt t tredases o ilan continuity. throughout johnson's presidency, eisenhower places extraordinary offcmea wlre n l, san mup neo jhson' ose ? ford to think up an emergency, so, but some other reason whyou need to be here, but i need to talk to you to the point that there are metings vinam esorrte hoe abt soieatnd nh rheti sk e. nentnsaid u' the best chief of staff of god. >> is really amazing. that relationship is reg. hnatal ht i y y ever
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