welcome to this press briefing which, as you know, is on the 2012 u.s. article iv consultation mangre,rie ga ch ws dior our western hemisphere department immediately to madam lagarde' right, rto or ae gh -- ud] is mission chief for the united states. we're on the recor this moing. byafathaendou,l, essrt th se k tion focused on thunited states since that is the topic of the press briefing this morning.

and with that, i will as the >>nk vechrs d k veucr mio iefi onhe article iv on the u.s. economy. just to give you a bitf background about what is in th pcuco.v, t really aie st, ptou ouonts busy, extremely engaged throughout the year but wh a particular emphasis over three week of auittop meetgs with the u.s. iclo tee af,rat ys roio v ahe ts tutti t actually explain what our positions are, to see whether we get any factl errorin the press oor an omheeset u fur the d. wbeasnu

e 30th for board meeting review. now, if i was to highlight two key messages out hiare re, ou sat rsl,e ucic veas tepid and downside risks have intense tide. they're of two types. cofrhecutop a tun oia eriond tons me a is really closely associated with, number one, the debt ceiling and, number two, the fiscal cliff. but lleacoat i snd ne tsteecovy. we believe that the u.s. authoritieses do not have -- authorities do not have a lot of space be available. theyhaveimidsp

tu, cutey ld -se tupt rer nrrm roykl medium-term challenges both in terms of fiscal sustainability and financial sector reform. soet gbao t f reerersee at emi rve ma t t gnanowe riss. after rebounds inhe second half of011, growth haswe ad 2rihei o12anhlsh pa is t surprising, it's quite typical of the aftermath of a financial crisis and real estate bust. maty o.sds i ll w poo levels, reflecting depressed

although, although stabilizing house prices asell as high weecro r stab%n2nd 2.3% in 2013. that's for growth. looking now at the two downside risks th iav iif coioom t intensification of the euro-area debt crisis which would be avonloas pesinly via a elsrisahe adanbo dtl a indirectly. that's the first downside risk. the secondnsi,

ou aae ac spng policies that would trigger what is well known as thfiscal cliff. fission to that -- in addition clpoiainaledk rkismp. disruption. now, in response to that reryh tleowe tepidconoc skhae ic aie hochm er bve t fiscal consolidation is necessary, but not any fiscal consolidation. cenlt esse sbl a adixcveisl coolidion d promptly raising the debt ceilings are

two policy actions that need to be had. the reatn tatf la rnghebt in aofhis c ul enowly teiseand shld they materialize because no agreement can be reached, the domestic effects would be severeith negative spillovers to theest held ow, all dci ctfodh ll fidu is about 1% of gdp for gener government balance, that would be perfectly appropriate. avbld lde used, short-term support for the recovery is crucial, and the s. must also pomptly rstor diersc stbi. d oo,poma

oueeay ib cehve measures to stabilize the public debt ratio by mid decade and thani rirthy put it on afi ghevnds pc thse pies that is available, monetary policy. and it has a role to play. it has played a significant role alady. furex tattfel s riol w ouee ltentt rates low. and while monetary policy acode,thsireprat gh bdndse tug to ctor whi, in our view, is important; the housing sector. we welcome the authorities' new

measure to confront the cis yayeenth lutant h ggd dialps stthheouo. inclus in particular measures that would facilitate the conversion of foreclosed properties into rentalnits and thmiraops.an soel re reces should be devoted to minimize the risk that high and peiste lte webeeatere emmesenly cla, bu ven the length of unemployment there is a risk tha some of the work e g y he thkdause as

ift oe om filly, in terms of policies and it's more on the side of the structural reform, if you will, seempntus t coteic one a ofors b done. there is more to be done, and particularly in relation to implementing the dodd-frank es,bvly aou theto-rk o t svi. arla clud the enhanced servision of key nonbank financial institutions and the enactment of the volcker ru. oode isa reryids.no is rover nonetheless. we are in potts territory, but it is tepid. the two downside risks, u.

ors le tho -ey u t cymtooi did teim pbl extempt, and they should continue the structural reformses that have been envisaged and to continue the rerm othe finaial sr. bpp te >> o. quonhe tnd, th u.s. let me start over on this side of the house, and we'll sng around. yes, s, with the gasses. >>hank th.t p , n'e utin ovo l oheoure >> not idealogically necessarily. [laughter] have to be agnostic on that. two things real quick. onn belun meneerat muatlywhhe g,nd i wonring gen

the plans put out by the obama administration so far, you suggest that they ought to slow down tir pace of consolidation. oueel they areki lter ehin sng cyhtoor dti li a crao o anen um secondly, a specific qestion. the the-quarter percent slowdown you suggest to cut thqursa enw dy onrne a lf a qer jude whe y draw that line between consolidation and supporting growth. >> shall we take a question at a time? okay. thank you fses ofquon hnstonweo tend to -- that i becing almost the bread ate clytoon ran

of the economy as a result of, say, the real saig of the fiscal f dha sfi ilrefs oid ed ss. ot fl izn tr t emyndduto marginally positive if at all, but it would also have effects nooued m a tited states. lterpphat dein their policy. there are two ws to have in this multilateral approach. either you look at it because u'ren theecein e o lot bseo o anth pct lterpph ld iotom iv pot iend from a sending

end point of view. it's more natural for thie lattm conebo, i in ltewon ev vede coury. the rst question was what is happening on the eurozone, and what will be the effect on my econy. and that is certainly te tr t help resvehe situation in the eurozone. i think equally it's good when authorities are concerned about the consequences of what they are deciding for their own dostic maets. acly temdo ors wveey cit iin h consequences at home, but also outside from home. now, how do we peectl bre wh t pratscnsat

exiv tatld wd tmy etm. theyake l sorts of components into consideration. they model those components into wh would be not eerfe orutu k, ficonsidnause belie th the u.s. economy needs fiscal consolidation, w believe that it should be anchored in the medium term so ten o tres ten sti but equally, we don't think that it should be so front loaded that it is goi to, you know, act like arake on u. on heibngsll act th con a aeth g trecto. >> sticking to this side of the

room, i'm going to go with this lady right here. than yo ha y am-- nale d win 2 ntsira hawoess. the first one is, both of them are about u.s. e first one is that recently there's a bookoming out from byor i dtyirrt tea rt e la sar ig ys u.s. will -- [inaudible] money from imf. under a similar crisis as the ropeoues fng cutlas tna disir d coueon t dend imf has made great progress over the recent g20 summit regarding raising more contribuon from member uns. wesot d ri i ndd

t cseba meman etsra concerns about the fact that u.s. government decided to shy away from such responsibility. diormf ws ctor,sa en u of rionhou ks >> you know, i'll look forward to reading this book, of course, quonteain , uxact tme owenre in bant dei - an w asked by one of ur colleagues, you know, is the u.s. going toorrow from the imf? un ri- edothwas we woun'tve atmerun any kind of progm. but clearly, that shows that that was a very far-fetched and

very, very hypothetical question. aneihe -- to avoid the obstacles, the hures and the traps that arein any yoe pou tn rionirf i ryas v grateful to all those who contributed that we could actually increase the reurces of the fund 56liyayfat an ciofat l voluntary. whoever wants to participate participates, and the amounts are not predicated on the quotas. th isentod tmporaryeases noonbuyofr d

lateral contribution to the imf. they do other things by way of front leben central opes aropo ryicly iman mis t stitiostrethened and reinforc in order to have serve the needs of the entire membership, whoever that is across the world: and ac tldzo b ch t'ngunka gema t t. an daley, dow jones. just housekeeping, you talked about a small deficit reduction of1% rekibo f y cct 3. o st wd-- in,iciv eay focud on 2012-2013. it may well be tt going forward. we think that 1% reductio is

ibnduloned a lr ode. >> i t eden aedo,u wanted to -- more substantively, can you, you quantified the potential impact of even the that of layiis o ceg.onan d n dosa f.s po t the eurozone? you talked about the trade impact and risk aversion. what about the financial, cau h - ansely sffti-- teeshahe it to -- counies ve the ability to edit article iv's -- china has in the past requested certain numbs on echante itd. ths.ret, nant

edits? >> you know, to actally quantify a threat is a job. you have to be anactuary, an eventually you sed thfotac ith dst y ith si, we nt d ry t yz remedies and make relations on policies that can be adopted to avoid the threat. what, you know, whate thhe know, most will assume that the threat is suc and the risk to the u.s. econom that it contracts to teoint [iibll a tisow,nis rtthsuont edclyin or forecast for the 2% and 2.3% grth in 2012-2013. but it's, essentially, the us e t ches

-coue oe threat of the fiscal cliffand the debt ceiling not being moved. in terms of the titi tis ainom zositeat t tseethatyo know, what happened last thursday at the european council seems to have indicated to most --ncludg thearkets moik--t e i isim ta w n, bwh walso extend to a banking union and which would allow, for instan, the eopean stability mechanism wh anr ica osan fahaeros thsung rsf and are decided to not only

strengthen, but really arrange the architecture of the union. tteand t rs acs hbeagca vetas b tand that we hope will continue to be not only implemented, but improved upon because we believe that in addition to banking group on,cani ofeclftag s n. thhlsoteial vulnerabilities are many as far the is concerned. as far as the u.s. is yo have drede anwhisuw,he paul t dndadse byunethe ited states would be reduced. it's about 15% of u.s. exports. so you have that as the frst, t nef erit doomtin tu.

ot safe haven for all sorts of reasons, and the dollar being high regarded as the reserv u.raele or that effects the nd u.olbe ngeda rt t rr eon, tef s.po bome,ou know, more costly, if you will. the d 'st ct adi ne thon e f, saidarli on, generally eroded confidence because things don't get fixed and, therefore, people are uncertain about investment ad uncertain abo thtu rtnenel du o aticcr noouav ta cored all you -- yeah, i covered all your questions. you wanted also no know whether

we had contention, contentus us a ainn rtarthti po kndgerseeo nt eq modifications, and we have independently as always and candidly prepared that report. right? >> you're right >> ian tk h. linm lng dyths t h a question just to be even-handed. but if not, let me take this gentleman. >> thank you. juolup ti abimf le [inaudible] u.s. financial union's composure to the debt crisis, what kind of >>stl, u ncse le s t

ar i grall solid, very well restructured, meeting criahereth--as haeei 2, if ie recall, a significant slowdown of the nber and volume of bankruptcy of u.s. banks. so there is clear, younow, a moigcanderly e emtionhe itste regarded by us as solid. >> okay. downhefre. anm nale llodol n -- wedlp veiruenu d about the multilateral -- [inaudible] you do mention a numr of

nt sovine rsncngr inc macoc manageme of countries with favorable growth process pecks. prospects. due to the eang monetary policy youeferdtoth s. n t oalntwh thssit ou opinion for better coordination between the u.s. and, for instance, cotrie such as the greeks? bee,gainim of g prd e nc stoeplat ey n have full understanding of what's going on, at least the want better understanding of what's going on. an ci wcobe tone in that rerd ntiarof im o yojuplgpp le t2

anu. >> well, thank you very much. for your question. two things maybe. first of all, you know, w rvryrey,er nty mont pilodt. d,obsl w i e f years some significant movement which have often benefited but sometimes becaus o vs d ci aolal ctegelone ons. wehaebate aie the countries probably led by brazil have decided to address the matter and sometimes take dostic meases toctuay, yw, cuheco aak ouitncng pifl hol o aeldhe we of consistently in the past argued against capital flow evhilss eductaly i

opntasn rtarene arme capital flow measures as occasially legitimate. that's number one. number two, ouresh rtve ensy anvelilrs d ctnsnc me he quantitative easing measures taken lately, particularly qe1, if i recall. aclyemraauneeabto so nuti that the research is closed and that the matter is over, but i think that weneed to look at it carefully, anwe suldotuw, be wac cusar wed ey atnte haca i clearly could

have an impact and if so, we need to be aware of it, and we need to respond collectily. ye lking for, again, aady. m? [di er gwost f, nbo met you mentioned that you are of the view that much o the unemplment problem is mosy cyclical. i sustde w y vet ikfo atal plnt anso sd ti, you also mentioned that federal policy easing might be necessary, this is in terms of monetary polic easing. caeden n w zeaneyeshp $. [inaudible] into it already? what more can they do? >> wl nteemme

w bvets omtlcl,nd mee t address a sick hi call issue is to actually encourage growth, support the growth and make sure that it est stepr lo cath tes anhao th t se an encouragement. it's a sector that is labor intensive, and that can, you know, bring a level of response. eqlly, t gh-nd lieas aak t.sthiee arouw, pab i will, if you will, be selected versus the ones that are not pro-labor. theaul y ncca o believe that it would be in the interest

of the u.s. economy that appropriate measures be taken in teof sfiob chonal traini, in or aeoukn inmeanpocies that can be used to aually address the gap between the skill set of manpower and the needs ofthe labor mark. t inddedr rs t. roha aab ims onypo and you're right that the federal, um, central bank has take alot of moryic t ire in the national economy both by loring the interest rate to the point whe it is very low and has also adoptedomo novepe ony exescan

purchase, purchasing programs within the boundary of what the fed is allowedo do, and i'm su tt crmrn h ead sham se llep e u, t fimde w nonisotal ppto uno >> okay. last question. right here. >> thankou. michael -- frre un ss the global economy given that greece has a new prime minister who is said to be looking for changes to the problem? cay,yo llecond queion you ainnprce min-- nale da an you very much. >> i appreciate the nice thing

that you eici tt u benecd wei'rtnt the u.s. economy would benefit from a eunealretse andte,ni in n, certainly, the negotiations that will begin in the next 48 hours -- sorry, not the negotiations, the discusons with aur of inctigt wi n t howi irtno ofo eurozone, but for the sen of union within the zone and stability of theco. we cinkwa erth ka

usswi h finding out exactly what as happened in the last few months, what has not happened and how we can proceed further drk thw kauitwi i would not want to prejudge what their findings will be. but as always the case when a mb of ks f oreep,el u r ve aweon ground. if that's the case. >> okay. i think that wraps it up. thanks to everne on the panel and everyone in the room. ankou. [inaudible conversations]

>> we take you live now to a discussion in downtown washington about the future of israeli -- >> we take you live nowo a disin dow shonut fe erapain weherour y opg today's discussion is paul costello, president of the program. >> the reason why i'm in this i'he pior nis morning is because y er apaf t amtpe ou i . ar fnd e program,

youth story leadership, and give special recognition so some of our distinguished guests that incle meers he plic ces leialeonem t ielmb, mer the european union, european parliament, and also e think we each hav a representative from the embassy of china. wee stunte ar nri pra stdranivtyof edinborough. of so you're all very, very welcome. we have representatives of the state department here as well d very, very imrtant that we acknowledge them and appreciat ancop elou soauntnipit lot of key sponsors like some of the local churches, like the bradley hills pressbe by teen faitcommunity anson,ut

pue tvenyg ng generation of young pele from the palestinian territories and israel. i want to justell youie out nndre ieg atisut thsthrr.d t vbr because today we're especially privileged to have some of the founders of nsl back from 2009 sty. to tell you their own neoradip bom anrtht yei' be the director of the center for narrative studies which ch.dowpipeople that stories are orhaweri

shape identity and destiny, and when you know that and hav so methods to deal withhaou o wsiio spl us it's different. the stories, we say, if you can change the story, youan change the world. d neolhe ddas by in s tdill sese tont ly daily. and our job at new story leadership is to start a new story and the use t help and the lo and the support of r faeserps he lyobrhe mae there is hope, maybe there is another future that can be imagined beyond what they have dared to imagine to da. 's aclog us th angfenaot

ese yeowh a hesp of their careers, and they're ready -- already they are making a difference. and so we just kind of feel that our program is andulprogm, itr y le sha erldryto inrro special because it's a seven-week summer that is only the beginning of a story. and that once they finish t jonlu nrk th whethre w gi. yo hmo t later in the presentation. i want to just hand it over now kertis wno, demef e members of the board like bob and myself met with andy and some of the

state department people two or three years ago to tell i about an thaeepprs ans ec se demef s.. 'set our alums in the region, so i'd like to invite andy to come up and say a few words. [applause] elooni n'sndnd i e ecvi egement at the state department, office diplomacy and public affai. thas o2, eir eitedo alt he nst wagt d aour summer programs here on the hill and elsewhere around the city. had the chance to meet a th f aaln iarticipan t ons ems

cpey an eeinin group, and you'll hear some of the story right after this. but were so happy to be partner and a contbutor to this great prra caty fhecote people-to-people engagement, and we thank paul and the newtory leadersh program for making, for seeing the project through an r being parsth ttaepen no'sfiin eegrmsuc esdspg eruc ou a ry give us hope and inspiration that the future is going to be much more brig a per demei'keonk aan w lw an 'se.oor [aus

haouyh,an urreio urlesin samd ju tlitsto context, you're going to hear some wonderful speakers from the region, and then you're going to hear some accepts from ireland d frosouth africa. thntr hunp opreo p weno etos t secretary of state meets with other world leaders to discuss syria,every conflict in the world --whilit'soc- ct anlu o gl crsn. d ene'og w e leas athr eait not a novel ia, but you can go to northern ireland, and you can see people there who have hhata anu gooth aa, th program, new story

leadership, in fact, is not just ac tobes,tased program around d of one me tpast fm topaf onversation is, in fact, nsl is also their story. i have been the dirtor of t centor nti ie ypug iek yeagadhe chance to build an irish peace program called the washington-ireland ogm. a eagoalof tng thear from isogures g afn rand'r gog to hear from alums of the south african program. and then in 2009 alums of the

h rade h caogcaogr thwinsti y,ng people from the north of ireland and the south of ireland, young people from the rainbowepublic of south africa, they get the chato ishon teipoayito tendrnheri wh nyoung people from the west bank d gaza and israel? so in 2009 that team assbled se omeaytheanhou soos in ee er taka chance to look back on the baby they've created and to look forward and dream of even greater possibilities. so lastly, before happed t mn ws g e youp heao much

to us and to the young people. you can't create a new story ideals you create a new -- anu tew ancreate aew d ouldlos boneoreahi boifol a twitter, and the handle is @new story leader all one word, and if you want to check the ,neryer.o st ifog. n'sst. d an t-s a nbc and all the other people who are telecasting this live this morning. and it's without any further ado i'd like to hand over to mn. >>nkyol. od in everyone. my name is -- >> morning. >> thank you. my name is meganiriky. wibeacat t

keniselh rn ildketo nitzan regev-sanders to the podium. >>dn ls e] le se 2 ys israeli defense forces. let me explain. as my father wasn air navitor in the israeli air rce, w ra i e elmy b. isi t d rn t b w always surrounded by fences and guards, i grew up with a seeming sense of security. and, therefore i was allowed to erdeenom g. vehexpncf in aas slethea as fathers of friends around me

died and were injured, i was, i soinrr m hngliat yth aou i rmber looking out the window of small house, and every officer that used to ps by mitahehttu h teorhe e waad y usnon dan seoreew luckily, that knock never came. however, it did make me realize thhe owathld,chik veyd d y ti ac a used to think to myself that if only i had the chance to talk to the palestinians and explain to them atre actually good pe, nf w b so.

tlagr uwi h wyti h vement. in one of the meetings, our guide who was about 16 years old ok a duct tape and divided the room into two. ened uo pk a shaihoels t ndthen human life, go to the right side of the room. and whoever believes that human life is worth more than land, go hulisorimportantf th r than land. but as i turned around, i was stunned. i was the only onestanding on thsideof hni whestme y deng that moment will come to be in my life. even though i was just a g

, nam oin i -- ter o wa d yoi chi g older, became a teenager and me and my family moved out of the army bases and isi nsceti a small suburb, the ofifey dor m r ag ae useheou to high school, i presume that you're mostly preoccupied with grades in order to get into the best college you can. in isrl mosofra ccdth i radeece operations, in order to get the best unit they can. most of us are not encouraged to take financial or cheerleading as our after school ait 'r uro tom pars t untanding that the army is

our destiny and our goal. we are raised to be fighters like our fathers and granathers were. heo in, h ave teinnvtiitmy anhe tbard o ou and he was sharing stories from the formation of israel and the pa that he took in the fight for israeli indepdenc anene admeat poofougoto shon atthinoi i thought for a second, and i took a deep breath, and i told him, you see, grandpa, you foughtn94de repaorrut i love israel just as much as you do, but the fight is not yet over.

ouhin,ounddrto fht i r d hu bgsli i ougi my grandfather smiled at me. i think he understood. to teut ahtnd in front ou arheey 18.he i'm fighting now so that my children will be able to play on the same play ground as my stn ndld thha tthh kps. be,rir antte tu fth israeli and palestinian societies. now, you may say i'm a dreamer, but i'm not thonly. aur] poo 1eao as j 8eaol ino

ani have hope as i see an army of change gathering. it includes the friends that have gathered toughout my lifethsr aal itlus srs otng slus i itlumy nazing nine nsl friends, and it includes that amazing woman righthere, ra, m plestia h wehaeeving theror et ewe a e tgh tet clg o trips to the emergency room, but that's a completely different story. [laughter] but what binds us most is our ssion for change. we tenurht d wurer a ldntwe ignite the spark of change. so i'm stand anything front of you today -- standing in front of you today, and i'm asking

iin,giou loeele f. u ode the line in the ultimate fight for peace. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, nitzan. and now i would like to call yaraayyetoheiu ppe] >> hi. whatl youo iuou iren g cs he ahtn pe my h ino.

i nervously laughed and told him, you will not burn my hair. but a second later, my hr was ya'm 2ar mamis m palestinian citizen of israel. during the period of the armed conflict in 1948, we, painiaisrais, did e h mannd t trel permits, curfew is and grd zep 1 denon, er fyls f s llinraat houses a small community. until the sixth grade i ha attendedmen-rum

ol tgef w clof00 jh k young girl i was fascinated watching tv -- i was fascinated watching standing the frof thiou ki eou ds op. cae natf to guhadi power, mesmerized me. one day when i was about 9 years old, the same age that my host prd.ici la stofinea wmy dolls and teddy bears, i sat them down, made a podium and ood tre. emrel sin leeo tin d li a hi anede w tcrd that stood in from the of the white house.

that afternoon my mom returned home to find her beautiful living rm messed up with her sh rirppta e d w w y froft he was white. my mom told me that i can't be presidt of the usa because i'm not an american. usnont did i understd that the in i d me pde thho bst in my head like a hive of bees. i was blissfully unaware of the complications and the real aninofng nt ngis stn ide stofae femo a i eed veiothop cind a co-worker. my co-worker jokingly said, well, yara, when y become attorney general one day, you of. chge tsund op ocid r n

la s m head, that i'm a strong, level-headed woman with both feetn the ground with, that i could handle the gel.anab ane route h gg oomprice a discrimination based on nationality and religion. when i was 9 and later when i wihe cea ne ced g esan jsh mebease ti wh i was 13, the house where i ve my dolls' speeches, w expropose ratedyhe e el b a r iasmywi-6, ew csma bd irau i was palestinian. but the young woman in front of you has graduatedwith my

bachelor in lsucum e,e sedthe brivtynus wa st leiaraer a a galen tigcot of justice department at the state attorney's office. the past month i have passed t israeli barm. liy ons,h llttnglu l ol fpoad ie despite the obstacles i have encountered orven perhaps because of them, i did not give i gentoc b -ver will. t b m tiit lerwao resefeor. i no longer want to feel a stranger in my own land. president john kennedy became the first ish-cat hick to hold e atold t ofliaveen deed the

opportunity to contribute to the american nation just because of the color of their skin? myteathere i amoday because of ermeeoeli prth co da find myself speaking at a real podium and not at my mother's table. today i am speaking in front of ant rofy opuns an an rsam ask you to believe in the young generation of both of my countries, israel and palestine. we share determination for a beer th . th- r bertu ge wntobe aam together we want to shape a better future for our societies as equal human beings.

together we willenny ppofe,ans ris wld the current strong enough. the torch needs to be passed to the new generation of palestinian and iraelis. there sulde no doubtt opisis deinndep if let us strife not our children, letus ns teattoll std itat c cedam t ceew itat offers opportunity to all human beings based solely on their competence and not on their ethnicity. torfo ksyara

and nitzan. i want to use this opportunity to really my experience to the stories they told. first, i would like tito lf nisusend i me rom oefyin the highlands of sou africa. boreman the small town meaning peace inari tlee

befubtle leshanenam for 2012 following the footeps of nsl south african cofounder. i nuno hsh inaalgr ugicgo nns mist, i believe that it is important for the nsl students to get perspectives from other countres and other soetwit vi mp ofic w brgh p a adnaarscet aiasn south africa since the 18th century. i may be white, and i know that white blaze can't dance. buisilel rhtm f afn rm y t wls that i speak with an african spirit

within my voice. my personal story as a white rikaner mailoe late rasoy i utiigwh ugu a big africom identity crisis losing power led to some people losing their ti iit soed itonscd itonsoated with the land i grew up in. i could do as many africom us anmove to austlia but i th bg rct to becauseife so african citizens to the nation where they feel they myught ad ithe

lle bto upth same place. we are all connected through time. areaad hct. te erngtzndyr or ia suth african envision the conflict in the middle east. it is not my place to give instctions, but i think i can nda e h nsrgg n acaedyicheontsite rle ret. the struggle is, however, not over. the peaceful transition to the juik n'thfrica is a trnio rsfohiop wasil pest isara tut africans startew

decades ago. in order for south africans to shape the rainbow nation, th cg thedtracath oho compromise with their fellow travelers. the road to peace in south africa and the road to eace in palestine and isal ar mplyfe. algh cic ere stioo tesm sd aole in building the road, and compromise should be used to pe lya nanvee distance. adarthuro ed tos ece lteronw edpckupafe avs g the way. many people in conflict regions around the world have asked i' tta qtrm. lde kd dththheis

sed ong befoe andela. there is no time towait. the journey for peace in the middle east has already beun. and the me tjoin emsot es oanerfo e oned th pe. one needs to have a vision of peace, and one who needs to opnt ot aompromise ith thyoc ppe] >> thank you, rikus. caha m.now liketlj ppe] >>d inad and gentlemen. my name is john callaghan.

i am a recengradato itllindbi wagtrepo, sof8,ia a er tetuea of nsl in 2,009. i was invited here t speak with vicen d, uon twopin asd tocnsr at response and wha insights or conflict zone cod give to the tyoe reyand palestinian speakers dcnt fit o aneft vol gh ahtfr a yaraa member of the minority to reach her full potential. i was also asked to compre h f2 's loh l ooen n

imagined back in 2009. so, first things first coming in life like this is n mportan mines a oodnesoyan ieoay t aar fefte. s ewoy because today on the island of ireland we have peace, but because the piece hat has been secured er l peinstst d w eve. ris, last week, martin mcginnis, the deputy first minister of the assbly in northern ireland and a former mbf teis gatiiaco d nbloohns h lzbei he recent visit. re, anofnggsthem had plety

hor mn mcginnis wished her the farewell meaning condshesihge and wellwss go bwhhaoan mb csof ireland smiled back at him and it was clear that between them a feeling of goodwill tall gde th're oubl iry no ttn fa has ornia aedo the conflict i israel and palestine. each situation has its own set of intricate and fragile mptindch edtondte w ugkaos oh manpa goiond handshakes.

but, what one conflict can take from the other is a reason to . letralh es cotaro northern ireland, it is also -- t also has the greatest potenti possiblyo changefre meicta a ouanecnsedte trblne in the world. toy it is abeginning for reconciliation. the truth the matter is there was nothing i, ohng gioribl ohincoou her anoi y. p was built and is still being built brick by brick, hand shake by handshake on a firm udaton a lleswrtg

e wpe pe copt of nsl and its predecessors. it goes never underestimate the transformational pow o rsonlonhi w,bethoron a mcte ann w srs the wld it did -sorry, as it did to marn mcginnis and queen elizabeth. nortjta mpan is a o just as js senpng an e aue gh to witness it, must take note, take pride, and take hop because that he truly is a retionship that couldchan eol. in9 swrka inr raf ous i had imagined?

well, no because these speakers in this program and this geatar laotspple who t hofod ilveot oe thank you very much. [applause] th on. ullet ntat h rueon ar if hea question please raise your hand, and someone with a microphone will come round to your seat. befo u.s. y us,pl teama esursttth airswhim i guess we will begin now. if anyone has a question

>> my name is with ira anno does theptardza pocalu a >>zaouoliog r >> wally this is the question that is on everyone's mind. and to be honest, i think tt if we had a soluio absadygd. t ert rh soh unf dend believe that only when we acknowledge each other and get the chance actually know each cho n,vu bee a handshake if it wee to happen, a handshake of a policy agreement

the concept would be over. wh stilltu a t omu w aceneaat hao re ont future and only then would we be able to reach a solution. ank you. >>ara? a ti dsyasi whhe s atet leraly e,c achieve peace. after that i think one of the major problems we don't have peace is the fat thathe leader has no knd thonli.ato d hhed before -- herd this metaphor, take tomatoes and cucumbers and erything we can think andhvla rn batr s acedstime rflected a

bit over so the prime minister becomes the minister of defense, the minister of defense rotates and becomes th eio nir. ha ry i e in cryma hn. >> waman p taor paestine in a program that does appeal with wet aetin re leadeh. rnane ti elndn bo o aerinoom aerout art of this program. my question is a follow-on to that wa asked and thatisr,

w yoe im o e refrsluo isi stianf hete fte pai tins of israe how would it improved you think, what it, the stat h pastiati ora >>nk. ra ulpen e a solution with the new palestinian state that the state of israel would treat its citizens equally that it inor ane ti lookpon a d st re >> i have a question for nitzan i wonder if you could give a pl - hby e -wo i o whou r ctlyngin f peace?

concrete examples of activities of organizations. and also, give us a little bit fit geal lmen fhwta sesa ta rwngovemnt dshgmovement, is a big struge? just your assessment of where that fits in the landscape. mitaabtwec-. aro ine program which brings the young israelis and palestinians togethersand li ths fitme ei acly t ee an atok hed so on. i live in london currently and i am taking part in the organization wih san

endlaf pain wh makes te region once ryonth, d about sentoav a s aemnd jng sglbtp the moment i see the decline in the last approach of the israelis. i do see in th rceo oldam, ie s f- i t griotwth mmierowing farther and farther apart at the moment. but i do believe that there will be a new begining. i do thinktat e rao n ab vie orepee ianihve things.

caudibwith stprngnge neouteha u wielu going forward. >> yara, would you like t go first? fnths ih an stsyowan mi wsreo much to believe that. but meeting nitzan on the first day, i realized that thereis something the mueav make our country is a better place. it took me -- it surprised me in a way that there are some people nebcusecmeshat have the psio

blthtus tke anead finding this minority here is something that really blew my mind. snide the thing that surprised moerl. most about aas i ou s sv ut ald c d, shich strong woman and that is something that you may be from the first ipression you don't really see, but he is so strond ene d he a, ada wehulst new party, you've party in israel that would bring about the change. so i thinwhat surprised me in retnan at ta yeat coatthn hr >> likewise. [laughter] mni rese]

h shington international program. nin.uestn is boh fr yara and apeiws whhe te onryec nu ghnd actually stood up against the system. what i see in the nsl program is something quite simi to that. toe ohsiou think you ed o tt76 om cotet aizfm both sides? because i think the u.s. on bot sides is on of the key components to starting the conflict so what do you think sp, thmmnrer

nshusdsg israelis that are calling for social justice. now, at the moment, ty are not coctanan specifically tthe vet eowi gemoreeta ouraiutin itself out there, and hopefully as we have our voice is head w hthpoit t ow uses sfnds moeothanoldn the streets, they are out there now we just need to deliver the message and make them hear that message. we are alreadygather. no jve ajst rg i d like to add that when i finished my udies at

columbia l school i have to go to the region and perhaps doro myeha y k, i eom ia ro palestine and just to follow on your statement coming you did say that unfortunately you are witnessing a sr i rrvence paind im.in sel clhatret the progms of similar nature, moralize and all of these ki of things. anw ourciugs xeieth soinatogao

a lot of discussions lately. i think that many people define it in dfferent was. however, ifyou efin rmza afa e oiznse alasn ct peua e t cathrebuilt on that, then i havto say that i completely disagree with that statement. wh i was livin in israel, the i lim l,oml, l fo e tolf.su in'che thcnlt was far from sight and far from mind. oncehey join these programs from then on i cannot ignore any mr thlu mme i ltbfoe ond th anatwh hise stor thing here that we a actually bringing about the conflict to the front line athmmgthoncte who d n

>>k oeheve options. it's either sit down and wait for someone to be our mandela as nitzan said, ere you thct e eohe y dt an oi wa ecew a hne,t mcrthan just sitting down and waiting for someone to take the lead. [applause] >>av aqstiobo nd a. sh bpain and israel is male and it's also older. is there a gender gap therand leiarait yonttpoean

>> thank you for the question. in il anley wm lst t s ryro bseyu ve wi hlhi things need to be atthe distant and we have few really strong women in th group ndat ouit o, e is esna udve pdeut ut t right person to do it. when we go back, i will try to be more involved in the politics whwl e orys createy d ins ,dntin,ohr i ochwhr]

suoslou a l alav iisn uen all four of you. some people might ask why washington, d.c.? none of your issues take place here. wh dusnat coine tig? one of the great things about the program as it doesn't take place at hom. stnd pndilogdsor e twagt d.c. is the poi an iw anf h eds to mnd eiencad adulde w some very

inspiring eople. and i think we all take a lot from tha. d sg o rk tthses rso ie age on that. i did that d.c. is a perfect international platform where we can go away from our own country les a ars fto hdop orzans dre ct t eamr t eladaste different organizations here. here we have a chance to hear other people's stories and other people reflect upon our stories as wl. i aet ahat te nrnatl lat fe > i would like to add that being here in washington, d.c., away fromthe concern and conflicis mzg ll u oanr co aikasyl

, semo h llernnammtees and international people. just being here havingthe privilege of sitting here today talking to ou nd mtinall rnnait xan eiri anhs r rsp ks. ke o twal points. first of all, this is we ca actual meet hre because back ho,iaerra d n fthst antme choito get permits. it's just impossible. so therefore we need to have an international place where we can all meet together. the second things tt e amanic awe n me sivo thor think it's one of the most important things of the program that we are able to

actually speak our mind and let amanaen be heard in froo >> hi, joining me heren d.c. is summer and i ave two miestions i don't know if ou fion fac yo i ooaotnahan w bcew ou know about you and maybe the second question is for nsl. we have an israelialestinian and the pael. kehv ocott he leiarostk d o sri palestinians? ank you. >> i'm the only palestinian fof fire thetre r h esk noly nha a

palestinians that levin this tip of israel but it's the whole region and diversity of people here that is just amazing. i tbyeknhe itnizaswa >>t s fiqe i t e when i grow up. however, i do believe that i would want to make some kind of change. so i think that i wuldust fos ninugaon rio drmetoer since a young agent meeting together every six months or so. or will that be to work with human rights oganizations or whenero f b a mo iodr te ac hein. >> i would like to just add that maybe i would like to say that we havefrfraae

ve ehmrh leiade nd five amazing israelis andsng he ancihe ha ceer [lteter. >> i think in ten years' time i will be the recreational officer for the political party. [laughter] r h ee y initcua al. ene seven months teaching in the former soviet republic of georgia and it's an amazing experience to see how someone's life can chnge when they meet soby fma erpafteord ng tishi ilde b ol . prnaw oe to

enter the irish diplomatic corps, but i think more than that i just hope that in ten years' time i'm still iolve lolh ut s taio ol, h h oghanwo moving forward and how to build a sustainable peace i hope it can work on that as well and that for me would be a great place to e in tenya'te. ta a msns.e >>lo am eic rnanth onel-- i a my question, first of all thank you so much for allowing us to kn your story, for sharing yo story with us. it's an honor r so t

meto esoi arscinio p. d eti shoca on like me, living in mexico, i just came here for the summer, how can i have a effe? me b ha eoe ru rlldn sss us aebefangr ve ad he even i got to congress where they were going to speak about peace they end up speaking aot totibe edadt keme fe el sl tibee e politicians are very hard mind it sometimes, and i just want to know hocan someone like me he a otruto a lu? anu. >> i can maybe answer your

question of a line of from the region i think robert kennedy's speech about threls of pe vinomaf, e wn ic k ehbop re etaypat name their children keedy were roberts after that speech and it's about jst knowing that you are ot mlh. ig the change. fs e ssegf all it isavr kewoi ned ly h ghpuf t rot he tiny pushes of each and every honesworker and each and every one of us as the nysoenph e

gheove d.t ulsoeto d atbe w lto an s o diane speak and as an international living in the region would she recommends th national iwst sa cot. t ,nu oc ouyookvr cy. al ses lobal citizen. i think that another aspect, which yocan take part in the solution is through social thki fcnlisostal,this h nsl facebook page which you can join. there is also different facebook pages such as yara, a loto r erorzas h fack geic anh atcneresnd es there. so, if you want i will tlk to

you a bit more about it yarili ly afterwards. mmndt're owt ig ha lf tso say. >> i would like to quickly just had an incident that happened here a few weeks go when we peoned into thehop t k e la a stanentl frbhleh tld sto tre and stared at us like bethlehem? yeah, that's somewhere in the ddast enor eleia slkiy i stn,tta religion, right? [laughter] so another suggestion would be not to be ignorant about the fact that if you want to be involved in a conflict wre fant to ep, jusko th tt imaars ge

think. >> all right. this is going to be our last question. so. megn,tadlk t el on icla og g etehe lkheevn di,s www.newstoryleadership.com -- wwwstoryleadership.org. pes aloffndsnyn well your help. >> thank you for that. quonperhaps to our i >> from the oxford learning academy i would like to sk the panel, given that we are here in

d.i uliktoakab coctsetohv woin yhitaama f u need that a dialogue with american policy makers or get them to become a neutral, and when is that going to be in finding a solio thcocta llrg rayo oik o rs ousah ascinated i was of bill clinton and for a very simple reason that back home every time you watch the news, every time you open the new untats e. un ss vr lvn cn when the american voters go to the polls and vote, they do not think that tir voe will baomo ie ind w teo a gihnoeshe

fey future. so i would like for the american people to be more educated and know that what they do here affects the lives of other people around h ord whh irndgis, le woteenslae affected by the united states. >> this concludes the first question and the answer session. we are now going to have a 2 thafdemd er. led - o t ck [applause] naleveio

disin r t thtuf mi eis ngb when they return, it will be coversion on discrimination against arabs and jews. it's part of a series hosted by ralphnader called the dating th epe unoleg atiues thpriear cer human rights and jack shaheen, author of a book about how hollywood portrays arabs. toreik titnde an ht s oorf

discrimination more tolerable than the other? arabgee rion?imination against h apnd ecbymit tiitto ai e call them both anti-mitism it would make to a lessenig of one. codanci sed rsdetidfr f minutes? what say the same thing aut any group of people. couldn't new gingrich stayed in the debateor me hnfi teulelaelon whnyaney adelson's money given the ings he's done an sponsor? right now the issue for sheldon elson as he gets money from china. it has nothing to do withte

t hendn en moooupoanfi chha about islam. the you could imagine some people got physically nauseous watching the abs osodem re tby hm t g ea rsit d anav ay eno say that the universities can't be trusted because there is foreign money and that its air e d poara'sexact inle udrnd itot mn. wthd. ut qtiwt y do, talk about it. but it's the sameas when pople come back and say there's jewish ths s oe iheywooor hre's tdotte .a e some arab programs,

not enough. i wish to god there were more. there are only 54 american ansttharn enniversitiesta t h rard ankecent greek. nothing about the ancient greeks, mice people. some of my best fries. the fact ipeople aretudyg cathog ouss nrund dl the one school was going to be bilingual in new york the shutdown. t's ge rlr. ads ned ti drssith mefrsli ass riti gnswsit t gog to go away against any community. it is not this verse is that it is this and that and botare lsivand put ic aotoue

d. itbt.r. ppe] on the issue of the word itself do you know the word poppycock s? nowei.l kith h tis a wrd but there are no races. there isn't a call cuttack race pure ouaent o er thtaoan. that's just how it is. >>t'stt a e'chiarthhi efivbo omng tibsriiom g alabut e thing that we disagree with. but giving a couple minutes to

rebut what has been set i feel little bit uncomfortable about the fact that i don't nt agwig inear' e bao roho probably could do a more effective job of defending themselves than i would do. but i wouldlike to do instead addressing with this invidu saiorddd' o oce at h es he dte et o ba e fof riti. >>av er s strong argumes for why we should use words in different ways. after all, why is it that any one group hould have a monopo hi htter d ittho ane htther anti-semitism is not all that popular even with jewish organizations. i would say that if you took a poll o anti-semitismshrs aiifyinudth ani-sesd i debeim a y

opheuly ts od em. it's ot a good term for lots of reasons. one reason is it was developed and disseminate and popularized by peop o hnle set-te a twdeop ifly an agafrthrtcu political movement that was adverse to jews in germany. it's a terrible word with a terrible history andould be buwoldo st debomeai let se different word for hatred aimed only at jews. they say let's just say if it's agait js weilllh uho. they say okay. it's just jews let's say jew hatred. that might be okay.

that is anoertr t,arel b us's ay anemm ayno od ooryparticular group, but it is a term in multiple languages, which has a ard too akantcceptance and thhestis hti ned s ot we tog mle groups together? after all some will say the issue was not hatred against one particular group, it is against rfranou'tjdi othr at dee anrmf bigotry? i would say yes les define ourselves as people that are against hate, bigotry first and foremo. bue lave aowede t me istivpe e ritir re

groups. if you are disabled, if you are african-american, if you are a woman,f you are hispan, you ammf dvge ylsve inefms cnaaae es w a going to combat these problems that we understand them and if we need to understand them that means looking at the istory. the stor fthaar dimions s mitian hk . eespwe o at iloin r ogby had some persuasive comments but there are also differences. there are differences, for instance, based on the particulardatn hc antecirltiip ens crstrieritca od there are also distinctive aspects as anti-arab discrimination in a post - left in context especially for those ars wh r ulm or

rcdsinmsi thar itasts dimin nto recognized. while i entirely to rejoin the notion that we need to fight all sos oftr hnkit ifsoenc afol dimions uswe absolutely haven't. yes, we will sometimes react wellhen bad things are done to this gup or the other. antn thwe agt hong f ust clinws a and muslims. so i disagree with the notion that there is much to be gained by lumpinthe two forms of ritindne, denend o ict ildfrh itahist en wsendo

try to join forces and the opposing eight. t ia very compelling argument, and i would agree in joinin forces imustay t th t ayt'w pp, e ennts h stnth us. unfortunately, they are. it hasn't completely gone away. but i think this new antiitishso e adse anbe arosat ii b otyp those of us that are in academe, those of us that have think hooore ke jim by and largepupet

anwao acthe statement of eisenhower the motion picture industry even whenhey knew about the holocaust continued sending yo rt,'r luly ghd ahhn am pbuince then, to the credit of the filmmakers jewish and non-jewish thhaeeep at has been ddressed erbfm ar h teein company which demonized mainlpalestinians -- n u maapoit.gain whi is cns m ok yu should read the arab

book. we have 1200 shom stock added. nogroup has beevilified more nmenid olca thnd g t the forefront so that the empathy and action can be taken baed on thai a leb ic nvve in 9/11. we all of a sudden after that day we began being portrayed as terrorists and as a threat to therhbeen otit a nudv n rthlo pt aiamia address this. i don't think i have been on a major television talk show when 15 ears. i don't know why that is. have artme

sd mmomdran t melvlad but the issue simply is is treated with indifference, and the only itiatit the one and only reason wa up call the people that will get the issue a little differently i don't know if that is the case. t beet i b c waru ge, s inr llceknf of complement one another. anyway, that's my take on it and we have to understandthat because americans oaa ori byle vlon leiorewihe ptof lny thomas running around. we don't exis inthe minds of

thare omat. ulve ayodevg ne h ve why not? why isn't there a guy called hussaias an anchoranor whouapifal oa emed tbon the air would the reaction be to that? leu tophefa. he a oktshol va nternational studies at the johns hopkins university. a group of young people from israel, palestin and other parts of the world a part of the discretn oe of ac tmdleet. 'r aakrgt

eyl eurngtl whaover on c-span2. until then, some of the group's discussion from earlier this pastit an rtaraty si erf political solution. >> nitzan, would you like to go first? >> well, i thik that is the es ts e'nd in ee h oln oulr hgowt it. we are here to try to tk with him and reach some kind of an understanding. i believe that only when we ge hnc u kh t in oerab b mmiewl a actual chance of king the solution because to be honest, i don't believe that after a

handshake if tldh ehnshofaoi itldllcnu wo reach beyond understanding that we are both here to stay and we have to create a joint futu onlthoue tac o u. >>ouddtn id y speeches our cost of determination on the two sides and the two people really want peace we can acheve peace. ao thaeter ob te thv pe etr snddmitind kind of want to end this conflict. as we said before and you may have heard this before eor tah of ce to uce ndhv head to

ater ears or ten years and 15 years, we still have the same cell with except this time with it a bt over o primissuly thinr seatad afs.erte han n leadership and a young voice to make ahn >> i'm with americans for peace now. we partner withthe american task force and palestine i stldiphohee stn palestinian-israeli concern and both of those in terms are here today and we re proud to be part this the wsedel o

atyr andta owo th mat the future resolution of the conflict on the status of the palesnian tizensoirel w d n e k one. >> i would hpe that when there thisewetin eaesnd trisienquy u ulb k p n riutould be looked upon as an equal citizen in the ie usf nizrael ndfycgi a ame-ayaan penny mitchell

by theay -- i wonder if you can give an example of what you are actually doing in your fight for peace. reale fiv nionn lsve ua le ossntoho that fits into the general climate that you see in israel is that a growing movement, a diminishing movent, is i a verybgsul stn yorassnt e s t sc

>> which makes, um, whi does enon sou t anouhe asm i d t atadly at the moment i do have hope, a i do see people joining our struggle, but sadly at the moment i see a cline in the -w oa- e'etnourli thaealnie itpoed johns hopkins university and washington d.c. [inaudle conversations]

>>wegoni again. and i hope all of you are ignoring the program as much as i am. [laughter] becae i am noteghan ininnantem thecpaehag r first speaker iswalis issa from palestine. walid? la first, i would like to the thank everybody for being here, and this isot part of my speech, but i feel the need to say it. k,ery, d ha jndob

for their generosity and for their hospitality. and thank you for accepting me iteeonul thouro anwaoh lior, my host brother, for being patient one when i'm rushing things, running around the use getting inad anouli myme walid issa. i'm a palestinian from bethlehem. i grew up in t hay refugee ca withfive sisrs t he amiserch wit s arosi th erea wr u the beautiful land of the occupied palestine. i grew up loving m identity,

hior cre s hthho anhestabth y heivee in palestine. my grandfather planted a seed of grtoestrin mcountryhat has t. asun btisp in palestine when my story began. on march 23, 2003, i was 16 years old. wa o wri a a eep he ht t fhl. call rbell of the coffee mixed with the scent of spices in the air, you know? i was sitting ne to d co somtos

i realized that was my schoolteacher's car. him and his daughter, christina, were in it. theaume f ala le wi tuy, without thinking i ran outside to wave and greet him outside the coffee shop. of sen bit otiron tine the middle. three scary-looking men holding fully-automatic guns jump out ofhe, and r ap--edires yea'sr. i bao t eeop panic. i peered out of the little window by the door. the three big, scary men staed

owg er' cwi ll ie f ithr, t ulad shehr the back window, and slowly the i dnria'he car had tifaym l ule d yw. scmen had left, and the street became silent. i ran out of the coffee shop to go and check on my teacher and his daughter. arsld i c dth bi we e d mhi i cried. i screamed forelp. nally, my dad came andot me home. heito sng beh

a holy land. all i want t do is leave, run as far away as i could. i decided tt when i g up, i llet mylf ge 7 wo b gh ilos mwhil m ild. my family tried to help me transfer all these negative energy and hate that iad anin i ththouak prtee n. ugeifond through my school, i was arr p.ed into a program called tegng tgh ou g t bt ti llto , she erre c b to my ak-47 for revenge. nevertheless, arc was critical point in my life. at arc i met jm

emlini amand eers. connecting with people from different backgrounds, i learned howo appciate manitynd atndoo hltures andthnit rtisbe omi beca ak r difference. i did go back to palestine, and i finished high school. but becausof the limited ho'te i egt m family, c ieo enoel m g accepted into college in the united states. hosted me at her house and accepted me as her son. miotatniitom s i lleki d wo gatom college and celebrate my success with my family.

unfortunately, my parents did not get the visa to come to m adoneny ar n g myenev eey nd as a family-oriented person, i began wondering is this really a success if i cantre thamil ttre , myrtisrn i don't want my life to b in the hands of scary men in a big white van. don't want my kids t gwp i no w mysoi inot want a 17 years old kid on a checkpoint 20 feet away from my he to control my do so t wtoeilen

cesotth cr. i tshare my happiness and my sadness with my family and my community. i need palestine to be part of my dly li. aned ksonow their history, to know their culture, share my belief and my love for my heritage. thad eaeoi omng b mael s place for my children, my nieces and my family. i need to take a part in this and help create n, er my fds'mtng dath these nine incredible

people because peace is not god's gift on ear. eeos ac he meod w or adipaun near future i will star a family in the little town of bethlehem, and one day -- hopefully -- i willav aught. ug w uwi coe.wi gatro d om eh one of you i will not miss her graduation. i will not -- i will be sitting with mthnheir r anknor m host brother, and his daughter will also be sharing her success. le nonenr.longer b silen t ongc l learrng our own

lives, our own future. plato once said we cansi rghihoa rk e tdyf l w n af ohe light. thank you so much. [applause] >> thank you, walid, for sharing your dreams and your visions for a better future. oune speis g ci. la >> thank you, patrick, and thank you, all of u, for coming. you have to excuse me fory

cent. ll mt. anfo aptmerr me k allga my name is guy, d i'm an israeli. i wasbornndse woifplin sa enofam w th branches escaped extermination in europe. a secular, everyday life on the ed,buth tit onuine t r. meth mor p haadns t jewish moral code which was famously summarized by the immoal en- lohethsuve] ur. e rt ohide

s tmy childhood. like my parents before me, i was brought up on the valuesof labor-oriented zionist beliefs. cran elio. was aene is.ln t seof saal that our country was established uponby our forefathers. as a young boy, my parents sent me to aiqch mene neor.t maec t school was to integrate kids from this neighborhood, this disadvantaged neighbho,h hedsm rige gr. ateisoorhe ithaoo t rs is school, i'm sorry, that i first learned the importance of really getting to know other societies. only when youeeem f

untam,lyn ai trust, cooperate and try to build something together. unlike many other israelis,he theirhwa tonm ly dvgeuln asoumaus, t israeli-arabs and palestinians on daily bas where i worked, small swimming pool. we alway enjoyed good iayok t ai o a tfut t year 2000 with the outbreak of the second intifada, it all changed. suddenly, the palestinians lay ns ee sg toran seofertyme ai fow the sense of

fear from suicide bombers and terror. the light of hope was shaded by a mountain of doubts and dred. d wllnoui otw hear fear later i met one of the paleinians that i used to work with. jabel was an undocumented worker anseisogbl oo avimy d ealypr m ha quiet chat about old times, old faces and old stories. we laughed a lot. he was e same personew d sryryof thxpdmea think. i thought about our current situation, and i deded that things can be different. knew tsll h

t akn ta intsoon ethose rapid solutions so much though. instant food, exutive summaries and fast ca. teer tim, h pat. o ccibe av ne hard way th we can't just put our leaders in a room, make them talk, sign agreements and hope for aetut rs a ee. fomsre avoese leaders talk down solutions -- top-down soluons e inndit styt b omlu, uig t de t cni dctay d trocess take time and effort.

i don't know yet what is the best way of doing that. but i do know tt our lrs imsihaiue pole ths re ihe i, a the other people you've heard today, are very different from each other. we ha, we comemfe esdien dien oonou o lind wou soe it. what binds u together is our willingness to get to know each otherand believe tat trust can chdeeqti oofs youth, one great american stateman once said. we havehe young generation, and there comes a time that young people get reed

ale. , yo gat ec o . un s our leaders, we don't want to live it. we, the young generation, want to live for the future. this is why, yog ra, eaoar w. us qan-be a inru tibu platform for future solutions. it's a long process, full with obstacles, and it will not be prm,no c bfiedee buet bn.al we are here to take this first step toward it. now is themeto p clnghiha mountain. we are here to take the first

step toward this path for a new trust. we are old andexpeen das hi r bwean ilunoure t evatng ss dt fcabe defeated. thank you. [applause] haou and now diane halley will be speaking about how nsl came together. dee? gnivne oorn [laughter] >> i have the daunting task of not on having to sak lt fo t tmai ho

tetianheli chhaurd y. my name is diane halley. everyone calls me dee. irdmoum fm th s a wngird raadte and alum from 2001 which is the program that paul spoke to you about earlie and which was actually ver t ishonc. d he. condf n y leadership for the middle east. i undertook my initial visit to the middle east while working as euanaren see t d t, fveus in aenhe dto theuman rights unit from the european parliament, mr. jeffrey hrris, who we are

ceaiy go sowpe topog s er. mias ivid el palestine, including gaza, a few weeks after the '08-'09 gaza war. ere posis t athhead enacinat mariaw bthsi riheflt. upon visiting gaza and see hocs toent of devastationo r , so mb ci m in faces, kids on their way to school waving at our convoy, adults peering out from behind their crushed places in du misin09e

credible resilience of the people of gaza. and their ability to get on with life because they just had t heee, iembe ar oe f et atsrs lhve i sadat as rockets are fired from gaza towards southern israel. this entire experienceawed asihein wo nt w--o fa to inork anunopnisiel important part of the world. with regard to my washgton-ireland program experience over ten yearsgo i yst ns btss tog ichn callaghan who you met on the first panel is also my fellow alum. so reconnecting with paul costellonce00

enmeh otu ca new story leadership for the middle east. became part of a wonderful cahaho team comising of john rnik f alum, solomon who is in the audience today who is a sais graduate and a number of others who came wee ths fr thndnsor new story leadership so as to afford the same opportunity we had to our ers in palestine and isra. ijuene eeali ineaul rum,guanald llor rll u rights expert as part

of the european union mission supporting the palestinian securitynd justice institutions. coueo snedin l,oulth jele recruit for the program each spring. and each year we host a gathering of nsl candidates and jeleic ste anngidonds.y and it's here where i have had the privilege ofy home being isi pti fshe fiti anvice versa. now looking to my personal experience of having lived in an building in if west sale d ngor iraah

thy pti-a ea acorp. eefedup tro of t international working in this important region. i have sometis felt that my role has been to irm iteonde at he enrari h at ive to ramallah every day, they sometimes believed me to be crazy that i would put myself in such ari tun. nt sit tm atbranprss tyamhha be. , ll nsl team member, would attest to. she's from ramallah. when asked by myesan ieanlleswh ikve w rum, emit myaeewbe m g instructors, my doctor, my dentist.

my role has entailed humanizing exrebode to thero i d liodm atha smes e international community take sides with regard to the conflict and become somewhat porized by living in the gi ensshr kpsryda as usu ennatl in a diplomatic vehicle and you see palestinians waiting and waiting to make the same th w sn in their own untr ternio ce anpae w smohahe boy or girl at the checkpoint is but a teenager being conscrted to monitor in such wwe ne spme f sgls

atec fetrgly that the israeli/palestinian conflict is far too complex, and the international communy taking sides does not help. hn eouni onatrdior te, wusno w the pendulum to swing too far to one side. several people have asked me in e paw ws e re wer ileth al. ereao sha edssptio that everyone who departs the middle east does so disspiritted and resigned. reerotholalth, iteth situation between israel and pal stipe which -- palestine which

leaves many despondent after mykpecaars of viantffor. ancu stitutions as they advanced towards fully-fledged statehood. and i would say, as would a number of my colleague that amy hulen coer os a ndlleia vis vekeit vusan ts initiatives throughout the past three year i'm now back sporting nsl and st ldamame mytmoer, patricia bloomfield, who first put me up in d.c. in 2001, is of huge importance to me, and e reins e hewul spg n aet r yif a fothaan he

future of nsl? we are nw in the midst of our third summer in d.c. where 3 cenaunndua agu w, y, an vellpoodil veseroth program. what if we can bng out israelis and palestinians in inn egrgl aninumbers nextear? oroneituer mll reinforce each other both personally and professionally to the benefit of new leadership in their rion? ..

yantsa i wa houcn sut ndhicbl pig of nsl leaders please do come and talk to us. thank you for listening to les [applause] >>wnei u snd session of q&a. if you have a question, please just read your hand and one of al awhouakwill give you mic. anve onm

wadn lvittof a gup fpphnson. ellesanflfo ie cog in is ou pp people, someone challenged us to come up ofre in eat0 words what is the ta ltoee d at e palestinian narrative. i challenge the other people and i have stillot heard it, so i just would love to put the challenge out there tothse ilnt ongpepl i d to . ko. >>s ryoodqeon i like it. >> they just announc combat melhem and a church as a part of

piahrit. painhen old history. there is a label that says it is fi ttiti n i t ugoaoonou in yto and vit. it's beautiful. if you go there, try to meet the people and see the culture and th o.ill know better. quonhted s hhamaybe this is the main objective of this program is for opet t, au k m speech, we come from

different places and we see things differently, and i think that this is exatly what is beautiful abouthis program and thw erea oh ied atas ty rltete are palestinians and also the israelis. >>na a,anwas wne if the hope of arab spurring that is swept across the mediterranean region hachangethe way youfe eedane tyo e arng >> i'm very interested in the soond h bsomisegts,

uw i astak my dad the other daysaying ten or 15 years ago, you kow -- i'm foouni u kn -sr une apstn. kofose ee atsng d to day. but for me, every single day i go to facebook in the mornin d ichekethe eu p d hees sa an go to facebook and other facebook pages and i seewhat they are up to every single day. scial mdiw ecpe i vy prm ack .l my frend was in the facebook

group and mentioned something about nsl, and that's how i unescebeop re eeat nron the way they can reach each other through different sources of media, they no can relate to cho arcuso lydtael tscal media and the strong youth and strong new generation will make a difference in palestine and israel if they get to know each otheand ale the ae eath trvr. thank you. >> just to add to that, i must agree with my friend that whatsa anw ndcai t

ow iled it's still in process, and i don't know if it is good or bad. i'm not in a position to say. arprg a oseadt,y n t exactly what will lead deily to thce pagon . wa ft tf o icadwl could argue and not agree and disagree and then agree a bit more or less, but you know, it isthe platform st tlam i,d of changeo quon s efrm right here, right now. so this is the thing that is really interesting about it.

thankyor ho >>ouusadt ai rkit lstns re years while the arab spring was unfolding, as we look to those countries for the arab spring and me it from coming osve wma l theay sces unophh cet n teir unoe adcr diatorship and that just underlines even more so the premise behind the leadership, the fac that young people can create momenm and cana ge. >>, i. y igeo robison coming in bye members of the board of new story eadership, and along with paul and the choice nde lid he m lvinheing maarm an h

meoe panel, and an saies tmn of something thatguy a tbe s somepnliby ngebeg e in the answer. you know, the solution. when we hear especially that it is the same leadership ing recycled within heury eerinse ths vdente ory po he news story leadership program are demonstrating is that demonstratg not only t each other, but also to us, to all of us in the room all of us imanin sno e wetng oversoo ectteceane sw will emerge out of that process. and th is something that all of us can be involved in, no

juheatrybo ie wintenti d ou cioboow ca ive nthiso teb ie newstoryleadership.org and find out how you can enter the convsation and suport financial this weekend's continue to bring people like this to washington year after uti thes ritil oplavdu t f tiraa il unheutante answer. >> thank you. i st want to relate to that. soonanmes ry as i said in my e he. t oe o lders with i don't know, some foreign country to be in th middle and put them together and try to make someing clicked and think i nbov cnt. ea in'tivy uni'tinsoin wed obldetutnd

i think this is exactly what we are here to do because we don't have answers, and if we had them, we wouldn't be here. ef bha t ll h s akis m it on in oursociety because it can just be people comingere thpuonoirel e eou has different perspectives about how we are going to pass it over. i se a m ofmmty weul i hi k al u the first step towards acting it over. >> i want to add one more thing, too.

so- terre onpeople were actuly pointing fingers at each other and trying to prove their point. what amazed meabout s thi eda sa whou bringing people from different sides, and avi luh thedgy ngl -wenwviunecctually talk about different issues. and in that way we can actually understand each other. and notactually try to prove oupoint tondstah r. n'keh f liheie o egor and understanding each other through activities and i think

we can do it together. and i think washington, d. is a perfect place for that where you can see inspiring peoe. outo hl rifeemal e pi epo an aavadsun w ires to have a better understanding for each other and moreime to talk about different political issues. when it comes to normalition mo eeonal nyg td ng eeai i erecae ntto have justice, and it is through justice i will have peace. thank you. i t mlf dam hschool of government and public service at texas a&m university, and i just want to ask the panelists how do you take the experience gr anenenatk sort of onur oe ot vy a

e coo ogli iso vrod--ot el paip raik this are already sort of predisposed to dialogue. how do you to get back to the people who don't already have that persptive? i was wonderingiml d b ili b caits lik yam sooiavttd eege w thap >>t'a good question. i studied economics in college, and i believe that thereis a newgeneration in the middle east and palestine they have geniie th hv ti eyts niee an tama,th a ra lot of jr artists, engineers who areeally productive. and i think the best way to prmrt start-ups, likeet tm maybe a website or kickstart or

crowd funding project wre palestinians puttoj seimedh enerad rioman twae stns e lian realize the humanities on each side coming and they can reach the world where a lot of people wold be lltopohedd em d wou arhi pctn te same way they would realize each other's humanity. that is my project when i g anyens.i will wor o e te ting. we work in a different organization. i work at amicans for peace w, which is an organization d sesrkier skplsneaseis

pr, re actually working on a project whichcreates a facebook page where we can connect the mediaadfaok pl aientm. ccot grto h an h er tfo ste, and americans for peace. we can create safe environment where people in the ei an et tkt,ad coesthgi o about and get in touch with them. and in the se way, we can create a little bit of difference may be amal hg ll mbeatige i ol jdtta, pl. in hthwidenoned before, one of the most powerful tools that we have today i the social media. i think that the social eda

inro tmutyoplein ehe tr nscoion and trust can be translated to a lot of things that create the same thg here. it col e ran lk i pen leni i fft eti b onal corporation they bring the bottom-up solutions in the society together and yes, we have severalpeoe eat ids t to aese is b caln ai hope that we will succeed for that. it ationo guy.he question.

a few years back i met several students in israel in the disciplinary center and we were stditu n e hethtatsu m esor ao troreplti fo sannttuonthat is rather politically oriented and the government program i was just a little intrigue about the factnd o fh ioa emhya le ahe nd ciies. so, following up on the previous question as to how you deliver the message back to israel fro yo selwhatd o sstrf ung ins tsomvme gefrnstahrarely highlighted the issue of the conflict so how do you find a balance with that connection? thank u. >>hank you for the questn. i hnk ainelpnl

st bu the uprising these days it started last year nod it's gaining force again thty n sa hrint ehis country. we talked about. we want to changethings. want to h oles this a an someyu know, the dialogue is impossible and it's a big challenge. but i ti that ougnra ilio t rss dhe eeos in ire ltsr d palestinian issues and in

the streets of tel aviv now with demonstrations about social st a h hthe nlet t ssento, but i think that this is exactly like with the last question was about how we try to d. yochngd y se a very new face in the next election o oe h cn oe [lte d u t eaee elieve that i work with a lot of young people in jerusalem. the israelis that are very abscaji epetscrid

t university students coming and i believe that they will be there and they will make the change. >>no h queo f y i nlvngth iy and asked since the first day, and he was telling me but his genius project he's working on a he's very passionate tll sttsd conflict resolution and negotiation and columbia and some universities in the u.s.. and i think t thisa aclendblinr thoufcmio o precatisi th will succeed to overcome any obstacleand

problem. that is what iwant to say. k yo ha. e e ninco re uestions. >> my name is susan and my questions id n ors. youlvetanf ereinhet my iimwhat i would call giants in both the muslim world and t jewish world that have opun anmh ven limw t oua having prevented in the last 15, 20 gi wre wlg akrgence of imilar e ksfpa

>> thank you, susan for the question. i think that wha hpe ishedapomee reut not working , anwe don't want to deal with it,e don't want to deal with thes thinking liti. we d'tt ev ihnat are ustiohes etg changing ight now. we can feel it in israel everywhere. ung ople areting much reivld n isy i trng to predict but i think that we are going to see there will be -- they will grow int

fod.in tnxend ry ooe th e i h country that are very activist and that are dealing with these issues exactly een t lc ofirr e aen thifncoe and it's really hard and it's co, yoll ion from here of istnt tonre g. an ykheston an the question yourself. alves yara talkd about herself and uheorac tleesan atyure ngabt

wer they had a they are not interested to lose it so they are willing to change positions but they want to keep the gin ow atl ane ras ch aak giop tgenerations, there will be muslims, jews, christians creating a new difference. adt oueio rkhe at thy i ines i unlian i think -- you have a level of corruption and leadership and in the ponnedy and people stay erseo nut ke ptiio deenmmonh tsee are posted in institutions and organizations that are creating a new sense, a greater sense of accountabity for leadership eminating fro

p.nd thsoft stioil e pot hmiean s raint accountability for leadership in paleste yma olsti >> my name is michael kennedy and i have a little bit of a different question. from the first pan, the palace but out how the issues of utfrfe e es inde is ap, diws abfyoexerice in america what are the most important lessons that we can learn from you? 'vbv ih u.s e atfieaantmy eet

university. i've been living with a wonderful host family in minnesota. ramwat o ckvim l sister started crying. why you don't go back? if you go back, sty at home, don'go to the streets. icidborsrye. aoio o. pe.st ht wete ales i tag yback ome. she's like if you go there stay home. if yore not in school, just stay around there. whatdsy wfir sen og m bch aheul is american media all of gangsters in the street and killing and drugs everywhere.

an ieramante d inesoi mainstream media she had never seen a palestinian family mak cookies are going to a picni or tuig ar. evhenth w er a s to think and have the stereotype. and i think t biggest challenge for the america is to stt oking the leiare th is fthde to rs hso >> i would add a small thing. i fink we have a lot to lern veuhn s randwe are enoin ik wwng oso. the table at least for these

programs is the real believe that we can makea hcmn d e ed ve i . >> that was our last uestion. i want to thank you all for comi n losis frhsin . m te adro e erydu o- newstoryleadership.org that he would dozen times. paul would like to say a few quickwr. >>nk vmc,ak. hosyu aalt dohiafo that your heart is in a different place than maybe it wawhen you walkedin. opu k wi