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'de tmi itsi in your own eulogy. [laughter] but it was terrific. thank you. i want to recognize two people who are here. one isidgeen,ho nwar-- [applause] was a great partner in what we did and what we accomplished, depmof ae ttadan d arch which was so crucial to the turn around to the city of philadelphia. i don't know if any of you saw the "wall street journal" from two weeks ago, there was a wonderful piece on phidelphia and w bran d
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co red ilphhr t eyes of four people, an an architect, a developer, and they did it through midge's eyes, and she was called a culturist. i don't know if that's a kic thrwobere phcation, but if it's not a dictionary word, midge deserves it, and she did a great job for all of us. pplause] i want to recognize myriend uio irow antoog h bse 'sth book. one of the things i tried to do with the book, and people ask why i wrote the book, and the first was i wanted to give people an idea abou how public see, dng this t tt c mike read to you at the end of the book is exhilarating. it's fun.
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it's whacky. it's an incredible up and down road. there's frustrations and ane that, number one, the book entertains, but, two, it makes people laugh, and particularly young people think more kindly about public service. what's stressful to me as my life hasone on ioe w ai tuse ol vent there's good government and bad government. there's good government spending, and there's bad wasteful government spenting. i wanted to sort o have fun with the book and show the human side o great polical adandpe itt ofhe stories about president clip ton, which i want to tell you. shortly after president clinton was sworn in, took the oath of foe ittee inew .s a funaiser est toasng phelhe out at the
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event, and it was co-hosted by a man by the name of ratner and louis cats. they decided, yes or i don't knt e desionwautould veonof introducing the president, and as they wait to go on, louis goes over to president clinton. they were good friends, louis was a help to the presid and heaidmr. iden w u fa ilucs sinup your hand and whys tear something in my ear. the president says, what? he said, it doesn't matter. whisper, and i'll be nods. [laughr] president cltonsa , ind'am yan dh i just put a parking company about 12 billion owners in the dience who have big parking
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concessions, and if they think i'm giving you advice by nodding thl emy inre talkin tme, thrent sort of shrugs and says, all right. they go outside. louis speaks. he introduced bruce. bruce is speaking. presidentli,utly aner cds whispers, and while he's whispering, louis nods like he's giving the president advice, and what president clinton whispered was cats, y're aalpu gh the tag line is it did the job and 7 of the 12 building owners thcoea iwrereafr. wor susreason.
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i do believe that the country's in trouble. you don't need me here to tell you that. we're in trouble because of the paralysis, the failure to act, and by the way, we focused on washington, d.c., but that's n m difrentinba sacramento, harrisberg, and the partisanship rose to such a level that it doesn't look like we can do much of anything or get out of our own way. that'sot to change. ere'sany rsons fo i th polarization that exists has made each side, some very strong and thoughtful leaders, afraid of their base. the republicans are afraid of the te pay anhe ral t,eyulra t. oo conservative like bill bennett in utah lost to a tea party candidate. one of the great senators in my lifetime, the republican senator, lagar lost to a guy who
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apars ebil. [laughter] i don't know him, just appears it. the press asked him how, in fact, are we going to do this if both sides d't get along. are you willing to compromise. he said, absolutely. thoc ldd ose sis. nned people, and ironically had the effect of helping the democratic candidate for senate in indiana who would have been crushed by richard lugar in election. the democrats may take back the seat as we did inele. cassel, can you imagi? he was a great governor of delsz, a true moderate, conservative fiscal values, moderate on social issues, a [lteubli servt, he lost to a woman who if not a
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witch per se -- [laughter] took some courses in witchcraft, you know? [laughter] it's hly brn deytunning. it lyte . the blue dog democrats, most lost in the 2010 election, but the remaining few, many of them lost in this recent primary includg nnsylvanianbyhe na of hen mi harrisberg, central pennsylvania area, and was, yes, a conservative democrat, but a good conservative democrat, someone who was careful, listened, and youcould talk to. he lost to a chleng fro the ft uswa sted he c scranton and wilkesberg and lost to a more progressive candidate out there. you sayhat's good, i'm a
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ogreive, wanre ohe agt o d k th o , d we're losing dialogue. we don't have political dialogue. we don't have subantive dialogue. all we do is trash each other. we're still, we don't even have the cialialuethed inopoer tip o'neill, ronald reagan, orrin hatch. all of that is gone. louis and i talked at dinner about a good frie of ours, tom daschle. i know youremeerimhe cr mriadn se, swit arontradiction, one of the nicest people i ever met in politics, one the most honest, decent, wonderful guys. when he was defeated in the 2004 senate electi, lst rcgent ln november, the change over was going to be january 7th, on january 3rd, they had a special
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senate testimonial session to tom daschle. was at six o'clock #. senate was not in session. onur rblnallall owp. for the democratic leader, as nice aerson as you'll ever meet, accommodated, stretched out the olive branch to republicans, only four had the courage to even show up. threindo b lugar out there says that's the prevailing out there because the extreme right don't want them talking to demoats or compromising. the bulk of us in the middle do. one ofheprobms fgus i atariod afhe on talk radio, on cable television, all of it drives people into extreme far of doing anything that strays away from the most strict ideology. let'sust imm for ami -
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inr ut t er pem nge cotry. the number one problem short term is we got to get the economy moving again, but in the long term to get the economy back on track and to get the country back on track, we do have to get rid of the deficit. the defit is aoachg, peg ycu, int hefuture, could be as high as $15 trillion. that figure would have been unthinkable five years ago. it's here. it's something we got to deal with. everybody knows that there's no sile awe evernowsat t's n evod knows the only way we're going to do this is for everybody to take a hit. our guys, our guy les who show a lack of confidence and fof e ve irt f , oers, our guys are going to have to stapled up and say, yes, we've got to do something about spending.
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the money in spending is not in the domestic pgrams, but in thitlent pamnd neme c w the mod earn reality. social security was passed under fdr in the 40s. medicare was passed under johnson in the 60s. in the 40s, our averageife inth0ss 7 today, if you reach 65, you're average life expect tap sigh is 85 years, and that's average. the programs were never meant -- by the way, there's a story in fuissa tou residen clion years -- no, eight years ago when the life expectancy was 82, red buttons was a performer that night, and he was 82. when president clintoaiour age ct i82
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the audience in texas, we heard a big, oh boy. [laughter] getting back to my point. it dn'eave to strip them or do anything dray conian. there's many things we can do. we, democrats, have to have the courage to do that. by the way, seniors are not stupid. they are smart. they are the mst lat pon. rs eyuntand. maybe the interest groups, they understand on the republican side of the equation, they got to get over the fear of groverort. ma oouha nrd him? he's, as i say in the book, is the most powerful man in the country today. why do i say that? well, he's the one who has this
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organization that forceseo ignox,en pledges. 236 congressmen, more than a majority signed, and 41 senators, enough to stop any legislation from occurring by filibuster, have also signed. grcolscoy. he literally controls the country. grover, not to say there's anything wrong with being small, but he's a little guy who looks like the nerd in college, and i woicheas li the wizard of oz.. nobody voted for him. nobody gave him reason to be this perful, and he's a fraud, but he's a fraud that controls somfu theom
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coburn and three others signed the simpson-bowlesgreement, grover said you violate your pledge because eliminating the tax loophole isheuint siax a tho i abise o 70% of stuff, he was a big non-wuses. he told grover to stick it. to stick it. unless we get more people willing to do that, we'r never gointong whcae go? well, if u think any happens between now and the first tuesday after the first monday in nvember, you're crazy, but ter november, the t and ha mth oe d iodwd months of the new session, i believe we have a five month window, and i believe in that five month window, we ha to do some form of simpson-bowles. we have to end up the five
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mont wita pl acve elatthde deficit. secondly, we need an american energy independence act promoting all forms of home grown energy. if we could keep 80of theour ev iud uredsere eric o ad it would do so much for our economy, so much for our job figures, so much for the environment, so much for everything. we got toet therth x ll. make credits possible for wind and solar and we also allow for guarded expansion of nuclear facilities on existing sites. it means wref to do everything causeven ifuonag ateou ndnur, 'rt gto g volts to do wind and solar without
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nuclear. we have to face the reality. i say in the book, one of the most important lessonsip in -- anyone in pic can lrn yoat always get what you want. [laughter] should be lesson one for people in politics. if you try hard, you get what you need. that's the truth, ladies and gentmen. we got to do that. intrreediembk on0- ogfohint. our infrastructure is falling apart. [applause] it is literally falling apart. our public safety jeopardized, quality of life in trouble, and economicoitiveness be by. ersoin cdedical call. it's the food stock for the production of coke which in turn is the food stock for the production of steel. china is producing steel at a huge rate, and they d'thave e co.
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th hav coauthi . ounn araa and the u.s.. australia is a high labor cost state just like we are. it's little difference tween the labor rates, benefits and la foalinin aulial 40% cheaper for chie than our coal is, and most of the cost is laid in because of what it takes to get the coal from the coal mines in australia, the coal mines in the frt?, to theor cs. u to have the best freight network in the world. do you know is takes the same amount of time for a freight train to get from los angelesto the western edge of the chicago rail yards as it tes for that wenge o thora to get fromhe rd ern eofhe chicago rail yards? it's unbelievable, suspect it? it's the truth. we got to invest in additional
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$200 bilon a year for the nt ten ars ofour inastrture eedeat y p edt iyse the good news is every $1 billion of infrastructure spending according to the experts produces 25,000 jobs, well-paying, american jobs. spng would create 5 million new jobs each and every year for the next ten. sounds like a good idea? jobs that pay $70,000 a year in overme. orza, recommended back in 2008 an additional $180 billion a year spending saying it can be justified by the tax revenue it produces and the economic benefits it would produce well. therare aners the ess. nkece.
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a qioolal will, and we need a bunch of notary public wusses to stand audiotape, and whoever the next president is, president obama or governor romney, to be willing to lead. toeilli to ow leatwe gg f 'sng set this country on the pat for a big time recovery. everybody's going to hate part of what we do, but we're going to do it together. that's what realxecutive ersh ibout ae est sl -- president-elect or president next january does this, we have a chance to succeed. i'll close one on the mistake -- optimistic note. sepemme ed and ngremen wi finding a way of getting out of the defic, they sent them a note in mid-november saying we urge you to do
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something big, do something sma takes $7 trillion out of the defici wewianeh tgh ceatveo m. now, 150 is not a majority. there's 535 congressmen and senators, but with good presidential leadership, that 135 can bece 300, and we c thgh a t o nn. to become notary non-wusses. no ifs, ands, or buts about it. you can ask mebout anything. if you read theoyou i t ses an delve into all of them with a possible exception that midge is the arbiter of taste. [laughter] she often is not around. iiolate that rule. swife sty in pc? tell the [di llht
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[laughter] >> in the chapter called "animals i have known," there's a story about swiftie, the democratic donkey, which who wae >> sou couldn't tell it! [laughter] >> i'm not getting into it all the way. [laughter] but swiftie was one of the things in my time as chairman of the democratic party, it was one of the issues that i ndle lurint. gh you'll have to read about it. are we ready for questions? >> yeah, we're ready. [applause] folks, raise your questions and phrase you question as a question because we have a lot i see. gentleman here in the green irt. mene 1 the military industrial complex. you have not mentioned the pure bureaucracy of the military and military industrial conflict that's powerfutoday.
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>> y're absolutely right. i'll stop you because wh i ta abo thehiweve ogerasc, o is reduce military spending. not counting the wars in afghanistan or ike, we spend $700 billion a year. $700 billion a ye on mitar gitwis t anybody for the next 76er's world championship game -- [laughter] oh, ye of little faith. they had a goo year this year. anybody who get th wh tcogg enng the nations of the world and how much do they spend? no one who was at dinner can answer the question because i told them the answer. anybody? litary spending, second he rl >> r,na >>h h much does china spend?
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we spend $700 billion. w much does china snd? >> [inaudible] >> 50 what? >> million. noanil?ion? ah ey spend one tenth of what we spend. to make it more daunting, the 14 biggest nations including china who follow the u.s. in military spending do not pay togher, do not spen tether e $700 stngn th wnd ernobt have to cut out of the military budget as well. great question, sir. >> you mentioned, you talked about sort of the polarization in the politicaleal beeifa edutinn open primary in an effort to try and promote more central or sen tryst, you know, results. what do you think of that
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apprch? good . suosyo kt eeser tking about, but most -- many states, majority of states including pennsylvania have a closed primary. if you want toote in the democratic primary for esidt, y havto b if'r -- independent, green party, republican, you're out of luck. only democrats can vote and same is true for the republican primary. other states like michigan, for example, hav an open primary system s that all you ha to pru' aegreot, ic now, in most states getting ridiculously hard, approve you're a registered voter, declare what primary you want to vote for, and you go to that macne. the benefit of an oen primary is itedushe perha ma p aba has. let's assume in michigan, for example -- well, michigan,
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because governor romney's ties to michigan, assume that pennsylvania prima would hve meant something and wead an op priry we,stofhelle a ypuanwhgh ve had an -- a very significant influence in the primary, if you delude that be independents and democts vote, elraget a more moderate, ntri e grcsreode and central. i think it's a good idea. i think anything that encourages that or encourages more voting is desperately important. the traj simpson-bowles of what -- i'm going to say this, stwaro pisip kw itr to ed t most republican legislatures and republican governors are undertaking with these ter identification laws is first of all, there's no discernible probm. in eight yes as governor in pren eio eringlu
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ethhe most important states in the union, less than five examples of people voting over -- under a false name. we need to ha rlyti. nl vg b right, you don't need to be sick or out of the county. do everything wean to make voting easier for more people. think about philadelphia, for example. grtut hel.tad of registered voters voted. about 600,000 votes were cast in philadelphia. well, we have 1.5 million people, give or take. we havabout 3 # 00,000 drhaede t a ha 1ll registered voters. of that group, 900 thsands
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registered. right away, 25% of the voter pool are not registered. of th gounr0, dnot 600,000 voted out of a potential voter pool of 1.# -- 1.2 million, and that was in a eat turnout election, and wee trying to make itharder mano see. front row, yes mapp and lady to the right. >> would you evaluate the democratic candidates for attorney generals chances for pepee democrats in pennsylvania failed to develop extensive female leaderip. >> two questions. the candidate for attorney neral d g a p te too cdafo a
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change. kathleen has a good chance because she's a prosecutor, federal and state, comes from a strong procutor background. people in the state make a mistake of thinking the attorney general prosecutes murders, ane .ls, rri ey't only crime they prosecute other than corruption and crimes are drug crimes. they do mostly civil work. , civil rights work, a slew of other things, but the public alwabelied tt'shathe tonel dan republicans run former da's and have been successful. since the attorney regime was elected, no democrat won in pennsylvania. thleen has a goo chce. se ascio where kathleen loses. if president obama loses, she uld lose as well, but i think she has an excellent chance. why we don't have women in
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politics? it's an old boys' network number e, a numro,ol aird, difficult business that it is difficult to attract good people, male or female, and since our capitol is harrisberg, not like massachusettshere the capitol's boston i ve prsi w od st, a mmy organizers willing to spend a great portion of the time there. it is very, very difficult. we don't have a culture, but it's starting to change. we are starting to see terrific in tnadict around bushing's county and redding. we elected democrats in a special election. a woman by the name of judy swank who came out of 10,000 friend environmental oup, traoiny caidat thre sing to legislate -- that's the good
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news, and bad news is connie williams retired, one of the best wome representatives and senators we had. we're getting better, but it's >>yo wyo o adia today, what would be your strategy? [laughter] >> to resign. [laughter] no. almaez a y secretary of the department of public welfare. i'll reframe from doing th because obviously, this is open to the press or whatever. i don't want anything i say to reflect on me orot. i think the may'sin a g u dcu umce ry difficult circumstances. [applause] gentleman on the aisle there and then we'll head ba. >> governor, you emphasized the importance of the president reel leadership and --
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opuns r laderip d ec. d gis appraisal of president obama's leadership up to now? >> everyone hear the qestion? essentially, could i give everyone an apprl of president obama's leadership because i saidt wilake ngesti ler ft compromise. it's getting better, and by that i mean president obama came from exclusively a legislative background. we bring to every b,very si, ylash, inr pr hor his prior history was exclusively legislative, so when he decided we needed a stimulus bill, he essentially turned it over to the congress and said to harry id and nay pi, e bit t ra ides eyte bill that was between gosh awful and poor
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because they put in a lot of things that were social programs that were very good programs have appred of th,uthu would mafu the stimulus out of the gate. money for cultural affairs of native american tribes. you know, mey for the national endowment of the humati. alingshat oo y sinoo in public housing authority developments. all things which may, on their own, may have had, you know, good rationales behind them, but they were not job producing, and stimulus becameiord th t slu wed folks, it prevented the unemployment rate being one to two points higher than without it. the unemployment is several million lost jobs. it ed. it t h,swe cret f
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ises honestly even though an honest answer may make you look stid. [laughter] how many of you know -- how many of you thik,onwer, stusil y g a x cut if you earn less than $250,000. joe, you earned more than that. no, kidding. [laughter] if you earned less than $25000, d aax timog llis hand. don't just say "yes," and 40% of you said this. this is -- by the fact here talking about a book, this is a ry well-read audience. as tan leth if weninth ly 30-40 would say yes. everyone did.
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we didn't let the best communicator in the history of political campaigns talk to the american people abouwhat was wee raisg the spy pend for food stamps. bologna. it hasto be spent in the months it's out. he t $ aca peke40ha filters it's way back to food districters, back to farmers. he never explained that. the me thing happened wit health care. same thing happened with health care. the american people are cobuto a significanti increase with the federal deficit, not withstanding the fact that the cbo said over the course of 20 years, the federal health care plan diminishes the federal deficit by over dos.liol, ail
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lady in blue -- sir, wait to raise your hand. >> you have not come over to this side of the room. actually, i have. >> i promise you, i'll answ your qestion before. it m just be du, [lte i promise. >> what's your policy or thought about campaign finance, and how would yo try to reform it and thclim we ase i gquon dee a non-wuss politician, and you're looking at someone who raised taxes, second highest in pennsylvania's history, second year as governor, and all the other vernors were smart ough when thindnve enyn'haoun again. took on the unions in philadelphia, and when i ranor re-election, all four unions
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supported the republican, never happened before. looking at someone who dstrict attorneyndicdthic be a man, and so i did a lot of non-wuss things, but i did wuss out once in a very critical juncture. in 2004, and i'll get back to tu d aue the-- 00 legislature for a terrible pay raise bill. just, it was horribly inapopriate, the money they asked for was too much, and i got into a lot of trouble. actuly, wasbout struck by aat i mewe having. in 2005, they came back again with the similar version of the pay raise bill. they cosmetically changed it. my staff convinced me if we didn't sign it, they probably wodn'to athinforein reinveyeof ve, avejo
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initiatives. there was so much i wanted to do for energy, for transportation, for health care still on my agenda, that i panicked. atouilat w health care ll a anllap any of the blame for that. they didn't. many of them st positions, but it was a bad result for the taxpayers, bad for the em seem that citizens held the govementn, it wadn ery,ham. sdnavdo should have called their bluff, and i don't think they would have stone walled me for five years so even someery good nonwusses have wuss ments, you know? nonefus a 10%ar -- non-wusses. the original question was? oh, campaign financeeform. the answer is we desperately need to do something about it.
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it isstunning the influence of money in picspl tes it ath ze ud, which i believe was the single worst decision of the supreme court in my lifetime -- [applause] said you have to goack to dr sct toin si. with citizens united, the flood gated opened, and there may be no going back. not only did they blow the limits off of corporate contributions and individual contributions, but it makes it very hardo fd outho ttwhef tct occurs. disasters on many different fronts. to think that sheldon is going to give $1 # 00 million to help defeat preside oba is abteun.ytunning. e ondo t legally. absolutely stunning. we have to make changes, but in
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light of t court's decisions in citizens united, the only way i believe we can do is to amend the constituon i what the th amp, he's been advocating trying to start a website for changing the law, and what we do is define -- take political contributions out of the definition of feepeec a we o d t tionmentd and we should do it. remember, the tea party movement started because they wanted to get the influence of money out of politics. the occupiers, that's their whole raise forreup kat- aat sad atcciers is they never found a positive cause to channel their energy into. can you imagine if the tea party and occuprs adopted amending the conitution to take e i
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thk flwnon out li, aer f wbe you'd have state legislatures quaking in their boots, quaking in their boots. i still think it ca be done. it needs leadership. we got to do it. the altnative to go on like we're doing rini tl oere right. >> oh, you wussed out. >> i'm bein polite. no, the guy -- >> the guy who gave you the trouble? yo wusdedut hohaaio three more questions. take the microphone away from him. no, i'm only kidding. [laughter] >> can i talk now? >> of course. >> i'd like to know what it takes ghe cr in toweiwn rn mewhs preventing them from getting off their ass and
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telling everybody how -- what they've done and how long they've done. why can't they do that? [applause] frikuet a ohebo e'ptn bg that i entitled "stand and defend: some things worth losing r," and by stand and defend i mean jus wh you're saying. yodiduf ngma ana a a grn as a state legislature. you did stuff. talk about it. don't run away from it. in 2010, our blue dogs lost on basically obamacare or, you know, the affordable health care efct were things that polls shows the public lov for senior, $250 to plug the donut hole i the prescription drug coverage for ungeoplouout
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ag lhod a pre-existing illness. they had to be covered mandatorily. your son our daughter coulbe ve b yhe cn he c companies couldn't put a yearly cap or lifetime cap on the amount of coverage they give you. small businesses with 25 employees or ss, if they offered health care to their employee got 3 tax ct. e al gng vo for that bill rather than hiding from it, i would have been out there screaming about all the good things it was doing. don't you like this? n't you like that? what's wro with that? i would have defended it. th ranhng t 't thotort, which i characterize in the book as stupid as al goreconsultants
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saying if we didn't use bill clinton for campaign, they woul [ltetmohe was presen o dndt ev , and the other part of that, some things worth losing for, absolutely. >> [inaudible] >> because they are a bunch of buy rabbits.pny- they are scared. everybody thinks the nra is all powerful. ran three times statewide in pennsylvania. i won by 12%, 10%, and%. t wmo prf ul b here, wouldn't have written a book, and you'd be at home watching tv. [laughter] there's that pack meality, but it's not that who leads to coageousti butat ad wussing unfortunately.
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how many of you read profiles i courage? byhe way, irote er w too aur] i wrote it in longhand. [laughter] someone on my staff was smart enough topreserve the longhand sheets in case anybody thought i didn't write it all, but i you ths ou i w it. [laughter] if you don't believe profiles of courage, people, there was a fellow in the book byhe name of edward ross who said when he cast a vote not tompeach drew johon w puand dot pe ew jhnson, but said i knew i was looking down at my political grave. he nonetheless voted not to
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impreach, voted not guilty, and he and every other republican who vote not guilty los th stood for something. there's things like integrity and bringing health care to 31 million americans that are worth losing for. if you a a blue dog and you loss because you voted for heth care, darn it, you lost hafo. the nmensin t to me, we need back bop. no question about it. take someone all the way in the back. >> we are. >>nkyo governor. right now, there's a revolt in the democratic party, people like yoself and bill clinton criticizing presidentbamor
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bain capital. why are you doing this when the stakes are so high? second, are you comfortable with lancg the budget the s ofio wwoll ei l? kwo questions. i'll answer them both. i'll try to be quick. i dended the president on bain capital wen he has everight toloreit rnmn gst e soor ti . we should look at that to see if they created more jobs than they closed down, to see how they operated. what my complaint w with the part of the ad that said he wa a vampir atas s badser y in vulture capitalism. you don't win friends. using names like that. when we say, and bill clinton is a smart guy, he's going to be for obaman october when it
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counts, andecae he sa nce gsutmnis , people remember that and say, well, bight is telling me the truth because he didn't trash the other guy. i was on morning joe last friday, and i don't know if you saw it, but there was a fellow by the name of ed glmor a puantyai, e tfoontvad president obama and gave him an f in every category. i questioned him. come on, ed, you don't really believe that, do you? he said, ys, i do. ia uon io.n' he said, yes, i do. i said, no you don't. he loses the creditability. nobody will listen to him again from iependents. forbrngla stor what he did in libya, an f for the incredible
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things we've been able toot in other parts of the world? that's crazy. you lose credibility. by criticizg the pside f cal,nh o credibility with the undecided voters when we say good thing about president obama. that's an important point. secondly, we're not balancing the budget on the backs of senior citizens. we're balancing the budget on ery's ckbee chpl oy g h tayre taxes. we're balancing the budget out of their pocket to an extent, and, you know, l the people who get subsidies in the past lose their subsidies so we're balancing the budget on their backnd, 'r gg sof bitom the entitlement program, but not the ones most central to the core of what we do so the point is we're meeting out the pain, but evenly. if we don't meet itou ey,
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we'rneoi t ne rs tpuan w t ose revenue. ever. unless we vote to make changes in entitlement programs. understand that as a fact just like the sun is going come up tomorrow. if we don't wa to deal wit linedreery bithldhe w ggo tll in a hand basket. >> we can't go to hell in a hand basket. let's take another question right there. cut o wn?eour vie onhe i the rational behind it people waging such war if you believe there's a war on women around the nations as you speak. >> it's wusessimpson-bowlesness. itsi e onoidou the most compelling example of it is what they did on the violence against women agent.
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i mean, it's nuts. it's absolutely nuts what bothers me is i thought women in this count we filyrter tn, iclyhaw a oi ga open up between governor romney who unfortunately is the recipient of the republican cziness and president obama, but that gap has narrowed dramatically, and i do whave thartong ieat de wn women, on women's ability to live independently, to make their open choices, it is shocking to me, and it is shocking to me that women have not responded more aggressively than they have, and maybehey will by thend the election, it is sckto m i srpi part of the republicans. sometimes i think they were absolutely trying to lose this election bause you couldn't have scripted it any better. you couldn't have scripted it better. before we clo, and that was the last queion? want t give youen cawe hll
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[lte wao y a sense that although we've discussed a lot of heavy and important topics tonight, thathere is a lot of fun stories that are in the book, and so i gogto te yothwery [lte tell you there's a chapter where i say hoppestty is not the best policy, and that's because over the course of time, i got in trouble by awering ha ailan i n ouonthe one hand, but it's one of the republicans miming said how amazing it is the city is rough op every that after being in public life f 34 years, i' still frly pu a t i because -- [applause] you know, i've always told the trh for tter or worse. i use a lot of examples in the
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chapters you don't find stlyasr areryo kws tooty t pennsylvania primary, but after that. i became about the number one spokesman for her on cable tv and on some of the sunday shows for the networks, and, in fact, someone said i was thelaf e h ow - moheggans. congressman tubs, who died recently of a heart attack, she and i were pretty much the last of the moheegansalkior ll to she gave the nomination to president obama on the first saturday in june, and four days afterwards, i was on cnn interviedded, and at the conclusion of the interview, teweke tma
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s d you about being a vice presidential candidate? [laughter] he said you're from a key state at democrats have to win; plus, as a leader of the clinton patoer a.lpbr i said, no, they have not. to be honest, i think they hve no intention of picking somebody like me to be of a free spirit to be theresidtial meeerent a i wod no cn't resist. miming used to say -- midge used to s i have a lot of boy in me. i couldn't resist and said one last thing. on the positive side, we'd be a great balanced tt because i re aag - caiar a flag pen, and he doesn't. that's what president obama got grief for not wearing a pen. i was off the air at 2:31.
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then my phone rang, and it was [lterrhi speune person here in chicago thought that was funny. [laughter] i said, david, come on, you guys got to get e sense of humor, noeroul r ma it t goseof humor, but made it to november just find. thank you, all. [laughter] [applae] >> you're watching 48 urs of non-fiction authors and boks on >> there's been a hostility through poverty. it's the war on porty. johnson was the best president and looked at poverty issues and ent money on it andtalked hao this, but richard
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nixon is the father of minority business development, and inside his minority business -- established small business adminiration andused the trm coc jceic n,nojue. he fer pde bennet college for women regularly writes and comments on politics, education, and african-american american hiory, and live sunday, august 5too eastern, your "svind thriving: 365 facts in black economic history". in-depth august on c-span2's booktv. bo w tno rngthis igo eoool right now. one is a path to power by robert caro which is about the competition andnteractions between president kennedy d
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something that our species has been evolvingith for a long, long time now, and then the time dill "heartfulness," and the father is not originator, but someone who really started to promote centeri preyer, christian basededion. hero luthe rt oviso meditation connected to your religion and h that really deepens our connection to god and everything else, and he wrote this book, which is based on conversations that he h, an'sut butne christian meditation. we have a wide range of reading material this summer. for more information on this and other summer reading lists, visit booktv.org. >>here aookthe
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