that they're quick to sort of freak out if there's a little problem. and that children are under huge amounts of pressure. they probably will not, in the last couple of generations. >> host: one very quick question and you don't have children but you probably will. what you do if you had a child that started showing signs of depression, anxiety? how would you handle it? would you medicate? >> guest: i went medicate immediately but if i -- i also wouldn't waste a lot of time. children' lives are children and their teenage years are precious ex-there's only so much time you have. if i were seeing a number of months of this where they were impaired and seem unhappy, i would. that's. >> host: is that the message you give to other parents. >> guest: that's the take home.

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>>host: alondra nelson author of "body and soul" why was the black panther party founded originally? >> their dissatisfaction with the race relations and economic justice issues 1966. in their founding period founded right after the successes of the civil-rights movement.

with 40 years addition they were responding to what was left undone with the advancements. >>host: what was left undone? >>guest: people were hungry and lacked basic human rights food, clothing and health care fundamental things and in particular pour african americans. the founders are interesting historical figures but migrants from the south. families come from texas and deliveries and the may find themselves in history of couple of decades later. >> focusing on medical care you right to the black

panther party they were heirs to the mostly and chartered tradition of african-american health politics. >> we have not looked closely enough because of the medical activism. with jim crow that we've understand that to included health care. back across the 20th century with the initiatives this important that health care is always there. so to look at the end genealogy of student nonviolent coordinating

committee and advocating to back to this that were hurt and local communities. they turned to health care and dealing with the '60s and '70s and black activism. >>host: what transpired? >> lots of interesting things. they had the national network of health clinics mandated that every chapter of the party were springing up all over because the panthers had captured the attention of disaffected young people. you had to have the health care clinic to start a chapter.

was basic preventive care and adoption referrals for those who had more serious issues and they also voted genetic screening for sickle cell anemia well before was a national issue and they were involved in their early 10's the early '70s models linking black biology to issues like violence and other behavioral problems. >>host: where did they get the funding? >>guest: they were strategic. in when stem the sale of they ran the ambulance service that came from the diet -- diocese and also solicited medical donations

from some of the doctors i interviewed from the hospitals or medical centers and they pulled it together. it was the shoestring operation dependent on local collaboration including other health care active best with technicians in the health clinics and those who wanted change. one psychiatrist help to establish the free peoples medical clinic in south central los angeles and founded december 1969. at the time he was a resident act ucla and help

to the panthers to start that clinic and would go on and to be involved with other activities broke also when was newtons personal physician to into lead davis said also or george jackson and was very involved at the time living in oakland and he helped the party to strategizing around the circle so anemia and the southwest he would go around two chapters. >> why are you writing about this now? >> for the book is then conversation. what is interesting 45 years

later rehab those fundamental issues that have come back with public discourse with the affordable care act. who should pay for it? this is what the panthers were talking about but then they seem to far more radical but it is interesting they have shipped shot -- shift to the mainstream discourse. initially at was reading about hiv/aids and the struggles they face with battling the at epidemic. given the history with the civil-rights movement and

black communities have been effective to mobilize around various sorts of issues. where did those networks go? fact is where i began then you find yourself going back i ended up with the black panther party and others from their. >>host: what is the link -- legacy? >> not as panther clinics but some research was done in this special collections and doing my research was interviews but i walked around the neighborhood to

get a sense where the clinic was located. to get a sense of what it felt like then i discovered thick care landau's family medical center that is about -- now a nonprofit medical center in seattle named after a former black panther member. why did it meno of the activism? there is a photograph, at a photograph very much recognizes said contribution of of black panther party

and struggling to expand health care access. it took two people and the city of seattle. more bidders three is the common ground health collective. after hurricane katrina there was the health care if the structure that collapsed and people were left to die amd first responders were allowed to leave the city and usually they are bought for pro say had that only the hof of the structure of health care collapsing and if in a few days the myth three activists are the common ground collective to provide a very basic

preliminary health care services. one gentleman was a member of the black panther party in new orleans. when he did start the clinic with vendors and the activist he felt he could do this because they had the similar work with the black panther party. so these two clinics are a distinct legacy. >>host: alondra nelson is there distrust to health care? they hate to just say that but specific list they specifically as of of syphilis experiment? >> the 40th anniversary is in july.

we see distressed public health literature and historic call and see that it goes way back across the 20th century. they wanted to have doctors that were approachable more accountable to communicate and with appropriate care. it was dealing with the issue to do with dynamics. to make them feel o empowered rather than subjugated. the the health care work begins before the work is revealed in july 1972.