stage and the terms of the debate around distrust and it was that setting their revolution entered for fraud they had three or four years and write-off keying publicly and of health care issues. >>host: you attended the 45th anniversary of the black panther party. what was that like? >>guest: it was interesting. people come from all over the country and maybe then did not speak to each other to come from all over the country or all over the world. it is what they called chapter history to talk about the work that they

did. in the historical work is piecemeal that one person says i remember this and those in the blanks. there were scholars and young people who were interested in the legacy of the party that did say an interesting setting. >> of the characters? >> newton was killed and is deceased. seal is with us today and talks on a regular basis. >> why did the party disband? >> there was the counter intelligence program that

created this score that exists now. this of people were dying and the health programs they respond to members of the party with authorities. that is why the party disbanded. the world changed between 18 and 68 and 1980 with literature and sociology you don't ask children or a

mortgage the live stakes could be a lot lower. >> coming up on the 50th anniversary is there another book? >> i continue to read about issues of health and science >>host: alondra nelson teaching at colombia university "body and soul" the black panther party and the fight against medical discrimination" published by the university of minnesota.

>> our conversation with professors at colombia university continue. we aren't tulane to buy the author of "the lonely soldier" . professor use start off with a quote more happens to people one by one. >>guest: i was struck by the quote i was following the war home after every individual fighter. or does affect every individual civilians or soldiers. it is a monster reaching deep inside turning the life upside-down. >>host: how many women

served in the iraq war? >> 205 the over 200,000, americans. >>host: is that unusual? to make yes. it says say president historic say. within two years into the war and all the wars put together since world war ii including afghanistan. it was a huge difference one out of every 10 was a woman to seven did they serve in different capacities? >> yes. because of the nature of the war there is no front line of our fashion sense to have an area but that does not

have been any more. to take place in roads and hospitals you could be attacked. because there is no from line an engineer or cloak you can be drawn into battle >>host: but woman should not serve been combat? >> is there a great irony from the pentagon point* debut a and ground combat. in reality they have in fighting 10 years. >>host: is there a typical experience for american women soldiers? >> but it did very win

depending on who they were serving with. the most common story i heard what is one out of 10 or the troops but not necessarily a deployed together. sometimes they were even alone or the only one serving with 60 men. that isolation can lead to a lot of problems and i did hear a great deal more than i expected. >> fad is a common theme? >> who is this on the cover?

>> of career sergeant. and insurgent first-class and also served in honduras with a long career behind her and was enthusiastic and then i iraq was a whole different experience. purvey because of the experience but also the nature of the war itself that she was lourdes turn against. that is not typical but i heard that more was the criticism based on what they saw on the ground unlike in

the arm chairs. >>host: professor how did you find the five women that you focus on? >> i found through veterans' groups and a network gain process somebody out there writing about women and wanted to be included. they were invisible and not to recognize says rio soldiers. they wanted the service to be recognized. fayyad experienced. i picked 510 fabs of this

with the representation of socio-economic range and also other geographical range, attitudes so that it is the fabric. >>host: the outliers are those who continue to support the war and were not harassed? >> surveys show 99% are harassed while serving. when it comes to rape it is between one out of five from those conduct did buy a the department of veterans affairs in the military itself. they're still fewer than those who were not but i give the statistics but the

numbers are so horrific i felt it was important to focus on the s&p who are not aware with a degree to which of our own soldiers. >> is this day typical book for a journalism professor to write to? >> we are a working journalist we also have the academics that has always bend the profile. >> haft policies changed? >> yes. many congressional hearings about the issues of harassment i have testified twice myself with more

prevention and training and counselors have then made available and there have been reforms but there is a long way to go prosecution rates are scandalous and there is a long way to go to the military has ben extremely slow to respond and a productive way. >> should women be allowed to serve? >> yes. we are human beings. of all of us want to being combat but neither do them

then either. women should not be denied job just because of their gender there is a suit going on right now on behalf of two women officers who are claiming it is unconstitutional because it denies equal protection under the allah. >> he also wrote a novel? >> i am right to a cycle of books is the story of a woman soldier in iraq had the biggest prison and it -- prisoner of war camp going with her experience

and the iraqi civilian woman who needs a checkpoint and begins to interact see you can see the war from both points of view it is the way to tell stories of 427 look back at the coverage chief feel it is fair or comprehensive? which nation's media? >> we did a bad job as has been universally a knowledge we did not questioned the reasons the neff end up