his reading list, and i like to read with him, and we're currently reading "where the red fern grows," a classic about a boy's love of dogs. i think all of that will keep me busy. >> for more information on this and other summer reading lists, visit booktv.org. >> from bookexpo america, the publishing industry's annual trade show, booktv talks with sarah weinman, news director for publishers marketplace, about@ recent publishing news. this is about 25 .s. ..@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

and it's possible they may be moving toward a child date in september. but just on no.@ developments are slow, and just as there were many years ago. >> at the end of all of this hell of the consumers, will the@ get better access to books? >> it's talk to say. what has happened with two, becoming less of a player than it was in 2005. at the time publishers suburban@ all this massive book scanning@ her.@ in 2005, that was two years before amazon ever released the kindle the vice.@ now, of course, there are@@ multiple devices.@@ the competitors.@@ so the space is far more buried and multilayered.

in the meantime they get into the heat of space. there were partnering with the independent booksellers. now they're getting out of that. they're reprinted. books, movies, film, everything@ consumptive from an it image@ standpoint. because the entire landscape has changed legally even if the judge decides that there will be a trial or there will be a ruling when it may not matter this have wasted years ago. >> is there a fear among publishers that consumers will start to consider books free much as they do today musical movies? hobbs -- >> it's interesting you bring that up.

one of the developments and has been happening, accelerated her@ him. a number of publishers are experiments in. to backtrack a little bit, they want to make sure they can pirate a book easily so that that certain types of co and rules under what's known as digital rights management.@@ it makes the digital file very@ difficult, if not impossible to copy. let's say you just want to transfer the book that you alon@ for one of us to another, suddenly you can. when makes it much more difficult for the consumer.

so of the number of publishers of dawn, including macmillan, the recently announced that as of july they will sell their book erm freak that's essentially what publishers are experimenting with. sedge assisted a smaller distribution arm announced that@ the publishers there were quaff will also make their books available. the bottom line is a while publishers to fear piracy they@@ feel that aram is necessary the@ answer in terms of tackling

piracy.@@ it's more important to create awareness him. harry potter book. she never sold the door be@@@ herman publish and skin been in launched a multimedia platform and essentially create a much larger world around the block@ the other thing. the exclusive retailer for harry potter books.@ and the way it set up is that you can go to the website or their final retailer and their@ redirect. customers can get the book and essentially buy it to her.@

>> is becoming a trend. >> it appears today. >> industrywide? >> i think everyone is waiting and everyone else see if it@ works.@ of piracy is unaffected i suspect we will see more. it may not be a blanket thing. i can see if macmillan will suddenly make all of the books free, but because science fiction and fantasy, that's a very did test imprint. will we see it for nonfiction a literary fiction. >> the background of the department of justice, apple. >> oh, my. this been in the works for a few months. the department of justice has been making noises that there

might be looking into it. it started with a civil suit from seattle claimed that because customers have unilaterally counting and to for what's known as the agency model or before digital books are sold in many of them still continue to be sold under wholesale model the kind of conflict a whole bunch of complicated things and to one, the publisher since the price of the retailer can i change and. the region to 30 percent cut. publishers who and what does on

wednesday and at the time when, the retailer. once the intense moment as income to atone for a some mentioned earlier when and how much more and digital books this . that action is the publisher's heart and did not implement the agency, for another year. the irony is that by waiting there aren't involved legally and no and can keep the ball. at the same time they announced the lawsuit to announce that harpercollins and simon and

schuster had settled. as per of the so the engine. come into effect with in the summer of approved of the court the can and use the agency model for least two years. if they do it has to be under very modified means. however, penguin mcmillen did not settle. as a result of a judge who is presiding of the department of justice and a loss of this past actions it has said in a filing but she was going to fund see essentially indicated cost for shattered the she would come from the publishers. a misdemeanor very good case in court it doesn't really look on account of the marin who. for the moment of his current have been until the department of public the have intelligence

1-3. amelie the punch line to a seventh and gentle here as to whether 17 and how to proceed with all. it's company and. >> how big is the deal? >> it's a huge. essentially with the suits alleging is that publishers . publishing is also very social business. it's making things tougher now@@ was a panel which featured a@ number of publishing executives. the miners have been cancelled and i need to do and the department of justice in case its collision. of course the boat decided that

there are many collusion jokes have been making their rounds on in a. publishers and fearful that if the agency mendoza line that amazon will essentially be allowed to run them off and@@@@@ didn't even further. the reason why the stratosphere is it not just the amazon is the talent of a publisher. amazon as a bidding contest. they're giving away a lot. i have a sense of excitement, and it's not that the big publishers don't : it's this extra bit of tension that is added as publishing is biggest trade show. >> and he talked about the attention, the publishers to settle with doj, the the@ airlines?@ and they looked down upon.@ >> and son sen.

the expense of litigating. publishers may be beholden to shareholders and to large corporate and a thin on have the time and resources and money this and millions and millions of dollars litigate if a week ago on for years. in fact this makes the google settlement in terms of time and money. >> to talk with several publishers at the convention. we talked about books and when-when it comes to the revenue. of oral what percentage of revenue for publishers is from the books are now? >> kiffin looking at trade publishing houses a klum please use the term the big six and other larger and mid-sized of westinghouse's. they're huge and growing rhenish one day the released numbers of

of your statistics of alito and book salesman from your area are about 90 tuna caught half million whitman of but 26 percent of a number of the largest publishers are reporting well in excess of 20% corner 1/4 . numbers fluctuate and how and there books and that an artificial ball to the hon a customer's selling from. it sold so well that they had to issue a separate press release to soon be better begin and granted an anticipated soon another publisher, the 50 she the greek trilogy. and picked up the self published erotic drolen to in march and

first published in in the book and a print at the time, the solvent to an added 50,000 copies from very small@ publishing half what the board of now is the random house consumer and of leaving you can. they get the right and with her. the book sold to nine counts. it's on her and and and and. >> 10 million have print and half on line. princess of through an.

the best seller list, top three, they're and just if non of the devonshire code level. of course that was a random house of three double the. some everytime they have injured in the debate thing was the millennium trilogy. this the phenomenally low. this is kind of gone by the wayside. and i talked about. selling briskly, but not phenomenally. now they have the 53 -- 15 shades of gray trilogy. >> we have been talking about bucks and big sellers. how would you describe the overall health of the publishing industry. >> by this time the numbers it is him of wires like the hunger

janzen and 50 shades of gray to was a it does seem to at an extra level of sales and excitement and has been at a level of excitement. much more crowded than i remembered being the last juror three years. it's reflected largely because going back to assess that@ earlier the book sales@ declining. so if they make a 20, 25% of@@@ overall trade sales and they@@ still seem to be growing, and not as fas@t as there were in@@@ 2011, was still growing fairly fast publishers have, to get excited about it if they also have a lot of trepidation thanks to friends in washington. >> publishers find a lot from what the music industry did when it came to publishing online. >> oh, absolutely. this is and said they still

don't have a lot to learn, but@ it's also important to remember, in with the health issues of the music industry and having to of piracy, one of people still buy physical cds. the navy on land, but it is not as dismal as 100 percent@@ business in.@@@@ and i think, we're seeing and were going to say and soundness@ of the chair. digital hybrid business shapes of. of the top of a 30%, the person, and they go higher, does it depend on what category that is yes to is what readers want to read may be different than what they want to read and print. seven think the key word is harbor until the hearing a lot@ more about how publishers look so and it should publish a book

in the book offers, bring in an hardcover and then bring down@ the paper back a few months for a year from now on the grounds that will be even more experiments in in terms of timing and form a.@@ >> when it comes to an innocent is the publishing room in any way? >> absolutely.@ for one thing, this behemoths retailer that has an amazing ability the market directly to its customer. the no licking the customer in mind. whenever there's a problem won't blow lou did been moving more aggressively in the publishing. one of the big publishing moves out of amazon was when it acquired the digital rights. i also believe print rights to

james bond. so originally been when had it in your license. but it decided with the try something a little different and north american. it wins the amazon but it of the get the best he once won these iconic policemen, but the revised. that's just one example.@ another thing and i think people are going to be saying to fund paying very close attention to is when amazon officially@@@ launches than n.y.-based@@@ publishing interests.@@ mom one the books will be@@ published until this fall.@@@ amazon work done a very@@@

interesting orange. of the book will be under amazo@ publishing in new york, but the print edition will be released through a dedicated and friends of new harvest who. essentially independent bookstores or brick and mortar retailers to the order print editions.@ barnes and noble has come out for the time being, and i don't believe it's been any change. there will not stop any of the@ publishing titles because as@@ long as they don't have any@ direct way of selling there is no point to them and selling print editions. it just make things interesting. the second-largest prick and mortar retail store him also a declining to stock many and not all of the publishing titles.

because women now have sent an typical retailers as their counterparts in.@@ >> what about the addition of@@ sara nelson, the editorial@@@ director of amazon?@@@ >> that was a very interesting@@ new force it because it remains@ a little unclear what her role@@ @@.@@ it looks section of the primarily working on the website side in terms of revitalizing the on-line presence. changing the way that amazon editor's pick words. so as far as i can tell she's not treacly involve the book@ publishing, but from what i can get an the then head in her to be your best. her previous job was book editor of the oprah's magazine. >> and publisher of publishers

weekly. >> before that editor-in-chief of publishers weekly. she's always been first and foremost champion of books and the great industry insider and one really has a whole lot of people are reading. it's also interesting she left home magazine is another big piece of news some, oprah revised your book club which was announced a few days ago. so it's different than the way it used to be worn. the booklet was shut down when she moved away from broadcasts of syndication to her own network, but should get a pack 90 with a more-which is a book that will be published in march. when she walked the pacific coast tour all buyers of. it's a thrilling book.

i read it not long before publication. i could tell was see why she was enthusiastic. , there's not necessarily going to be a dedicated segment like there was in the past, but much more closely with the magazine. twitter and facebook discussion, a much more, much heavier online component. so a lot of people in publishing are also watching and waiting to see me if the book will work just as well in this warm. we will people pay as much attention. it's another thing everyone is waiting and seeing on this summer. >> and finally in new, nonfiction books and to publishers bottom lines, then it's on nearly as well as some of these novels with been talking about? >> it depends. from what i understand imagine

sold phenomenally well. certainly coming up, maybe not so much this summer with this fall and will be interesting to see how nonfiction as this is a collection related. of nonfiction books to well, they have some political or some gm history related element often and somehow ties into the election. for example, i would be to tie would not be surprised in the slightest if david maraniss brought obama biography does phenomenally well lawyers the because there have been all these tips of what's to come with vanity fair and other magazines. people are very curious. so does the first book that comes to my mind. and of their number of of political books that should be dropping very sent. >> and we have been talking with

zero linemen, news director of publishers marketplace. interested in following publishing news, the website publishes marketplace. if you want to follow sarah on twitter persius a constant twitter. >> i tried to keep it very simple by getting on early. i was fortunate to have a few characters as possible. 134 left the ceremony this i. >> thank you for being on book tv. >> thank you very much, peter. >> you're watching book tv on c-span2, 48 hours of nonfiction authors and books every weekend. >> what are you reading this summer? book tv austin up. >> i have five books that are in my queue if you will. i'm reading them, 60 percent of

the time mike ipad and 40 percent of the time actual hard copy. let me start with my nonfiction this summer. during the last break i read a book on fdr and honestly. well, there is another one that just came out by stanley weintraub called final victory about the same campaign. i'm obsessed with this for a number of reasons. while it may be interesting to political junkies in today's time frame, you see a lot of mitt romney. he see them pop-up when you read these books about thomas dewey, particularly the campaign of 44. forget the campaign in 44 -- 48. so that a more beyond. also giving to another nonfiction book that i have been meaning to read for some time. that's about a friend of mine.

he wrote a book called binge. and it was about -- it's about the great recession. and it is chronicling, sort of, how it is culturally changing as. it is not just in the pocketbooks but what kind of long-term changes taking place in many places around the country, talking about a white male underclass. but it is a good way, and i'm thinking about making it required reading for a lot of my folks internally, but i think every politician ought to read this and understand. i think it explains as well as anybody the chronic pessimism that is out there. we see it in all of the polls, but that is something. why is it that we are so pessimistic about the future temecula of this optimism anymore. we talk about the importance of optimism from president to can't it pointed you, but they're is a pessimistic view not necessarily translating in the benefit one

party over the other but sitting and sitting on price. we have gone through this before as a country. takes time to get out of these things, and that's why i think pinched is a book folks ought to read. my fiction books and i'm doing, daniel solos new book. married to a colleague of mine. you have to love his books. they're all good. fallen angel. historical fiction. and it has taken the time, but i have not a given up. the stephen king book 112263. other fictionalized book obviously using of the kennedy assassination as a seven. it's never a quick read. that's what i'm reading this summer. and up to finish them all before the conventions. >> for more for