>> how list you as says the tea party today and influence in washington? >> rerun happy with republicans voting for the bank bailout and obamacare. the big issues now with the supreme court ruling we are still unhappy about to obamacare and said tea party may be rejuvenated thinking of the supreme court would

strike it down now you may see a resurgence trying to influence who would win the election. >> when it first darted were you thinking about running for office? >> i went to the first tea party meeting 2007 it was called the re-enactment and then it to a group. the first one in kentucky was 2009 and a senator binding was talking about not running. i showed up i said i will take off 20 minutes to go to the square there will be 20 people there there were nearly 1,000 and i knew something big was going on. >> host: did you think

about all says? >> no. i was toying with the fact senator bending not to running. if he doesn't die might but seeing that reilly said there were enough people out there like myself. watch the news gets unhappy and curse and go about my daily business. everybody was doing that and the debt was exploding. so why started to think about it. >> host: this is about the 2010 campaign and the misrepresentations of who you are. what are those? >> 41 they say it is not a movement but rich people funding the tea party.

i never met anybody rich from new york. it was so decentralized it was city by city. sometimes there are two in one town. it really was up bottom-up movement chastising both parties. and president bush said to save the free-market i had to give up on capitalism, that disturb us we needed something different. >> host: in addition to quote being called a constitutional conservative i have been called a goldwater conservative. it is accurate and an honor. >> i reread the conscience of the conservative that was first published in shepherds

fill kentucky. i have always been fascinated by it. >> host: by a new think of barry goldwater and conservatives and libertarians, is there a difference? >> it has been watered down. people don't know what it means. but we were upset with obama's making this spending worse but not have the under george bush. many people call themselves libertarian as a constitutional conservative with limited government. >> host: you spent spent -- wrote this before

spending time in the senate. now what would you change? has your thinking changed at all? >> i feel i and stand the impasse to get things done. i have tried to take ideas many democrats have put forward but then be the head narrative is we will not talk with them but to all i am trying to meet with democratic reform. it could be saved if we've gradually raise the age and means test but no democrats will discuss entitlement reform. >> host: your party? >> cafe and half. i am equally critical all 47

senators are for the balanced budget but when we cut $7 million from sugar subsidies we just tried to cut 1 penny which is 7 million per year. that is 140,000 times. we cannot do it once? that discourages me. we cannot cut pennies. my new book is called government believes the way people are imprisoned from regulatory. rhine but people who put dirt on their own property with of wetland violations in. you should not lead to people in jail for

regulatory crying. there was a difference between criminal law and tort law review intended to kill somebody if you accidentally killed somebody there is a man in jail from southern mississippi 10 years without parole for putting clean fill dirt on until low-lying area of his land. we have gone crazy. the clean water act says you could not dump pollutants. i agree. no chemical company which should but putting dirt on nearly and is not the same. >> host: are these issues you have dealt with? >> i brought up the family from idaho $75,000 per day

fine they could not build on their land. there is not rainwater but they were told it was a wetland. look at the website. they said it is not perfect. another family was raising rabbits fined $9,000 but it was the rahm license. they said pay us within 30 days on your credit card but if you don't the fine is 3.$1 million. these should make american of bad. big government run amok. >> host: your biggest frustration? >> people have not come to grips with the debt problem. we have to cut spending. there is so much waste.

also the military. people who believe the best strong national defense house to come to grips and the pentagon says they are too big to be audited. that is it in so. they spend 700 billion per year. they need to be. wanted to $24 billion in the budget and accounted for. we have to do something about this. >> host: what about the debt ceiling and sequestration debate? >> died did not vote for the last one but i will only if a balanced budget amendment. you need to be hard core. last year we added statutory caps the day brain of bill to the floor that exceeds

the cap and we raise the point* of order and they say it is okay. 80 at of 100 will say we don't care. we have the of rule that says the bill has to be on line at least 48 hours. i made a point* of order it was not up 48 hours. they said so what. >> host: talking with senator rand paul his first book the tea party goes to washington. his new one coming out government police. -- bullies. year at this libertarian conference are you named

after ayn rand? >> my wife negative shortened my name. my name was randy although i am a big fan. my dad is a fan and gave me the books for christmas. i never thought i would get so many questions one wyss said you need to be rand paul i was not running for office. but the first reporter who asked me that than i have often. >> host: you are an ophthalmologist? >> i went to duke medical school when atlanta of then former residency. >> host: do practice? >> guy a cannot do it for money through the senate but i do it charity

charity -- charitable surgery. if you are worth $100 million there is no limit to your tacit in kumbaya zero earned income. but i still do charity work i do miss medicine. i thought the rules were different. in the house my dad could practice some but in the senate and i am not allowed at all. a have vast them to change the rules. >> who is that? >> it is my wife. we did it as a joint project. and allowing me to do the campaign. >> host: what does she think of a senator's wife? >> there are times you are

attacked with character assassination on our anniversary before the election they accuse me of my religion or college. she had not made any comments but then said don't mess with my man. >> what is your enthusiasm level for the mitt romney campaigned? >> i have endorsed him. but that does not mean i will sit passively. i don't agree with everything. i try to be polite but i did mention i was concerned he's said he could go to our brand with war without congressional authority. i don't think we should go

to war with one person in authority. madison and said specifically we bested that power in the legislature because executives are prone to war we want to divide the power. we have just been a decade of four i will make sure there is debate. >> did it cause familial strife? [laughter] my dad supporters were not happy. he was well informed it was coming and waited until they acknowledged there was not enough delegates. the supporters of not ready to would mitt the numbers are sufficient. >> host: your father's

political philosophy is well known. >> overall believe and limited government, the original interpretation of the constitution. we do disagree on vacation but they still let me come home for thanksgiving. i get to said at the adult table. >> host: what is your standing with the republican party in washington? >> i do okay. i tried not to insult people but the difference sides of the republican party. i think i have worked with many people on the democrat side with internet freedom like ron wyden bet to civil libertarian issues we see

eye-to-eye. i have tsai amd letters encouraging the president to end of the war. 60 or 70% is ready for the war to be over. diss 10 years of this. we disrupted the terrorist base but we cannot keep creating nations. >> host: what do you think sometimes democrats use to as the evil bogyman? >> that you are being effective that they make you a target. i am not easily identifiable. average been on an air force one with the president to suggest we bring home board

aid and to repatriate corporate capital, home to reduce the tax rates and build the bridges. the pipeline regulation bill to exempt the old pipelines i made them take that out. they were exploding. i have them take that out. i am proud of the fact were i find like minded people who have been to be democrats. >> host: talking with senator rand paul officer of the tea party goes to washington and his new book called government believes believes -- bullies. this is c-span2.

>> joining us now is donald luskin "i am john galt" is the name of his book. today's heroic innovators building the world and the villianous parasites destroying it" who is john gault? >> that is the slow been from "atlas shrugged" front 55 years ago that could have been written yesterday perfectly describing our world of declining economy economy, wealth, innovation, a moral standards. it is prophetic it is an amazing portrait of human nature those who are in great conflict just like the

real people moving the world today and who is john called it was asked over and over it turns out he was the man who went on strike. we have not tried it in this world. >> host: is there a john call today? >> in the book way at identify real people and we attach the ceo of bbn t. john allison into the tenth largest bank only one of two that did not need tarpon funding. the number one market share