had a 10% reduction of state government employees that we we're doing things more efficiently with fewer state employees. oliver the fourth stage but the real driver in his medicaid for crow medicare and social security but we have to address the entitlements. >> host: the libertarian position? >> and i promised to submit

a balanced budget if we do not reduce it we will find ourselves with a monetary collapse when the dollars we have are not worth anything that is the consequence of borrowing authority $0.3 out of every dollar. >> host: and the libertarian candidate for president, gary johnson what else do you write about? >> i have been an entrepreneur the one man handyman business in the grew that to employ over

1,000 people using the principles of showing up on time and doing what you say. i have been outside of politics my entire life. governor of new mexico and reelection were my only two offices. i made a name to vetoing more legislation in the other 49.gov errors combined. i took line item vetoes to a new art form. i said no to billions of dollars of government spending and no new legislation hef's adding time and money for complying

but not improving our lives and money we have to spend and comply. >> host: you funded your own campaign? >> out of the $550,000 primary its common 510 was mine and the other 30 came a few days before because it appeared i could win. mexico is two /1 democrat in getting elected proving i was a penny pincher then getting reelected but those

with better victimless their needs to be commutation of those sentences and pardons for those who have served their sentences would otherwise be a taxpaying

citizen. >> host: what about the republican and libertarian policies? >> on the right with a balanced budget. and cut federal spending. monetary policy. the intersection is civil liberties. repeal the patriot act. and never would have signed a that to allow to be arrested and detained let's get out of afghanistan tomorrow and end the drug war. historical a democrat issues but they are going nowhere today. but neither party does well

in the area they are supposed to. mitt romney is horrible was civil liberties and obama is horrible with dollars and cents. >> host: is it tougher to get media attention as the campaign goes on? >> personally there has been about to a 30% to pick up. no. just the opposite to i am the leading win people come to recognize and there are three candidates with me as one of the three it will go long way of food is that person along with the ron paul campaign coming to an

end by his own bid mission, i think their supporters would not me compromising their approach for the libertarian ticket. >> host: 2012 is the website and here is the cover of your -- cover a of your new book. out in august 2012. >> i wanted to read the passage would happens before the camera is rolling. but that was not an unfair intent of officer kicked me

with his boot in my face breaking my job. before i could register the paid one the officers hit me in the lower leg with my baton mir resting officer was your guardian angel they thought was different from the rest. up until that point* i felt safe with her there as a maternal presence i shouted out to her tell them they don't have to do this. >> i know i should not have

been drinking and driving. it was way more money i was making they said be ready to go to work on monday. so i got a few beers i did not let them know how i was going to work. [laughter] but it was good. i did want to be in the same community where we grew up. been highway patrol of got off and me and started to chase me the only thing i thought was a good job. of i have to make the job.

i am on parole have got to get away. >> that is a lot to worry about. >> when you come out of prison and try to do the right saying you know, you're going back to jail. i lost the highway patrol car there is no getting away from the helicopter. [laughter] >> word to you in the hyundai. [laughter]

list joke is i had one also. in the allegheny mountains i could not push 55. [laughter] >> to my surprise. they caught up with me. [laughter] pull over. i had to think. i knew the beating was coming. that is just how it goes. off who was looking for a

well lit area. there were apartment buildings but nobody was out maybe somebody would come out and it went bad. the husband and wife team of highway patrol initial on the chase -- chase they already ordered me out of the car. i laid down she came over and got my wallet to but they are running to the trunk to get to the taser and the baton i said i am laying on the floor.

tell them they don't have to do this. when she walked away her husband walked up and a boom kicked me in the temple and broke my job. how do you feel? i could not let him know he got the best of me. i feel fine. my laid down. the sergeant heard that so he taste me right away. like to me up. then he said house deerfield no? he said we are going to kill

you tease third -- nigger run. i was going to run. i was looking for clearance. it was between the hyundai and police officer. but when this lake went in front of me i did not know it was broke. it made it look like high was going after him. the video had been running so it did catch that but it did not catch them it name-calling and the taser

50,000 volts through my body. he did that to and discharge all three shots but while he does that he is beating me with a baton and telling me to stay still. as there is no way you can do that with the voltage running through your body. i am soaked in blood and electricity hitting me at the same time. i almost burned about house playing with matches as a kid my father said take a bath and do not dry off. he had the extension cord leading. half it felt like it prepared me for that night. it is the same feeling it is

a horrible feeling when i felt that it was 20 time warner's her profess profess -- worse. when he stopped said taser i am regrouping i tried to stay still but i cannot so he beats me some more. he is moving. fifth he would call me the names. once used art cursing and beating somebody they really get into it. >> you had a moment you describe in the book where

you insert yourself into the long history of black people's experiences referencing the slaves. >> what gave me strength was knowing the blacks before me went through this in slavery. why i said it was just moments to think this is what people went through and still win they don't get caught but i have to survive this. stay alive. you don't have time to think but you already know because you are being beat by people

not of your color. i cannot die out here. >> i am reading one of the very few books i buy and the thriller i am looking forward to the atmospheric thrillers before world war ii. he has a new book called mission to paris. i cannot wait to. i cannot wait to read.